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    Ramaswamy Gireesan (@ m42.*) on: Mon May 18 17:25:18 EDT 199




    Kanchana,

    en appan allava is indeed from nandhanar. But appanaip paadum vaayaal is sung by MKT in Sivakavi (he insists on singing about the father -siva- only and refuses to sing the praise of the son.

    Another song sung by MKT : 'gAndhiyaip pOl oru sAntha swarUpanai kANbadhum eLidhAmO'

    'annaiyum thanthaiyum thAne' from Haridas is also a good song.

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    saketh (@ chem*) on: Mon May 18 18:59:25 EDT 1998




    more additions to MKTB songs with their ragas


    1. Oru naal oru pozhudhaagilum - kamas

    2. Sivaperumaan krubai vendum - suruti (from Naveena saarangadhaaraa)

    3. Boomiyil maanida janmam - Sindhubairavi

    4. gnaakkan ondu irundum podhinile - jonpuri

    5. annaiyum thandhaiyum thaane vaazhvil - Senchuruti

    6. maanida janmam meendum vandhidumo - kamas

    7. ammaiyappaa ungal anbai marandhen - jonpuri
    (this song actually starts with a fantastic kAnadA followed by atAnA)


    All these are gems resulting from the explosive combination of MKT's voice with (mostly) Papanasam Sivan/G. Ramanathan's composing. One does not get satisfied however many times one listens to these songs ....... and talking about the song "vasantha-ruthu mana mohaname" which is a Ragamaalika consisting of four raagas, the song is beautifully composed and rendered with the names of the 4 raagas (vasanthA, KunthalavarAli, YadhukulakAmbodhi, Suruti) included in the lyrics. The song goes like this (the name of the raga is indicated in CAPS)

    hero(MKT) : VASANTHA-ruthu mana mohaname!! malarndha malaridhaz manam kavazh thendral
    (vasantha-ruthu)
    heroine : malligai poongodi KUNTHALAVARAALI, moittha malar nagai kulunga vilangum (heroine is after nagai- ornaments)

    hero : nagai paithiyam YADHUKULA(KA)MBODHIlum kanavilum nanavilum idhe sindhaiyaa?? (to which the heroine replies)

    heroine : SURUTI konarndhu kodhuthu-alutthaarpolave sollukku panjamillai

    (vasantha ruthu)





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    S.Suresh (@ dwar*) on: Tue May 19 01:11:46 EDT 1998




    Digression: Kanchana, as Ramaswamy pointed out "En Appan Allavaa" is from nandanar. This song has a terrific beat. Very short song but excellent rythm. Another song from this film "Kamam Agatriya" also has an excellent beat. Makes you sing along at the top of your voice. actually these songs give great satisfaction to you when you sing along with them. I am not sure I can say the same about the recent. That, I perceive to be the biggest diffence. My favourite from Nandanar is "Varugalamo". If you get a chance to hear K V Narayanaswamy sing this, consider yourself lucky. I heard him once in Krishna Gana Sabha singing this song. It is an experience in absolute bliss. The peace you get is unimaginable.

    Sorry for getting into MMDD in a thread of MKT. My only hope is that those who love MKT and dont know about MMDD will discover him.





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    S.Suresh (@ dwar*) on: Tue May 19 01:20:25 EDT 1998




    Sorry for the typos. Please read "...say the same about recent." as "...say the same about the recent songs". "diffence" should have been "difference". Posted this while doing many things. ( Nice to see so many people who love MKT)





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    Bharat (@ dsi.*) on: Tue May 19 11:21:14 EDT 1998




    This is a refreshingly interesting topic. Could people tell me how they got the MKTB songs they have? I'd like to make a compliation/buy tapes or CDs. Thanks.





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    Satish (@ cs-l*) on: Tue May 19 23:07:58 EDT 1998




    <font size="+1">MKT Song list</font>



    The following is a list of MKT songs. I just added the raaga information from this thread. Some details are still missing, feel free to correct or add to it.

    There are two collections available from EMI, 1) Ringing Voice of MKT and 2) Golden Greats of MKT. There is significant overlap between the two collections, but these two are the only ones that are easily available. Not sure if the "custom" recording places have access to more LPs of MKT.

    One more thing to note is that the songs in the tapes/CDs are slightly different from the ones that appear in the movie. The reason I guess is the restriction imposed by the capacity of the LP. The songs in the tapes are the shorter versions usually.

    MKT's first movie was in 1934 - "Pavalakodi". He had a double role in "Sathyaseelan". His biggest hit was "Haridas" in 1944 (ran more than 2 years at one center). He still had a couple of movies after Independence ("Rajamukthi" in '48). Does anyone have any info on what happened to MKT after that and what was his last movie?

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    Song: Ambaa Manam Kanindhu Unadhu Kadai Kannpaar
    Film: Sivakavi
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: G Ramanathan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Pantuvaraali

    Song: Ananda Natana
    Film: Sivakami
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: K V Mahadevan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: ??

    Song: Annaiyum Thandhayum
    Film: Haridas
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar, T R Rajakumari
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: G Ramanathan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Chenchuruthi

    Song: Arava Maram
    Film: Sivakami
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: K V Mahadevan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: ??

    Song: Arputha Leelaikal
    Film: Sivakami
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: K V Mahadevan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: ??

    Song: Bhoomiyil Maanida Jenmam
    Film: Ashok Kumar
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: Papanasam Sivan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Sindhu Bhairavi

    Song: Chandra Suryar
    Film: Ambikapathy
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: Papanasam Sivan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: ??

    Song: Chidambara Naatha
    Film: Thiruneelakanter
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Ragam: ??

    Song: Dheena Karuna Karane
    Film: Thiruneelakanter
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: Papanasam Sivan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: ??

    Song: Dhyaname Enadhu Manadhu Niraindhadhu
    Film: Ashok Kumar
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: Papanasam Sivan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Kapi

    Song: En Udal Thanil, Ammaiyappa Ungal Anbai
    Film: Haridas
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar, T R Rajakumari
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: G Ramanathan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Kaanda, Atana, Jonpuri

    Song: Gnana Sabayil
    Film: Sivakami
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: K V Mahadevan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: ??

    Song: Gnanakkan Ondru
    Film: Chinthamani
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: Papanasam Sivan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Jonpuri

    Song: Krishna Mukundaa Murare
    Film: Haridas
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar, T R Rajakumari
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: G Ramanathan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Navroz

    Song: Maanida Janmam Meendum Vandhidumo
    Film: Raja Mukthi
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: C R Subbaraman
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Kamas

    Song: Maname Nee Eesan Naamathai
    Film: Ashok Kumar
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: Papanasam Sivan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Kunthalavaraali

    Song: Manmatha Leelaiyai Vendraar Undo?
    Film: Haridas
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar, T R Rajakumari
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar, T R Rajakumari
    MD: G Ramanathan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Charukesi

    Song: Maraivai Pudhaitha
    Film: Thiruneelakanter
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: Papanasam Sivan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Darbar

    Song: Nattiya Kalaiye
    Film: Sivakavi
    Star: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: G Ramanathan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Natakurunji

    Song: Oru Naal Oru Pozhuthu
    Film: Thiruneelakanter
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: Papanasam Sivan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Kamas

    Song: Pavazha Maal
    Film: Thiruneelakanter
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: Papanasam Sivan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: ??

    Song: Radhe Unakku Kovam Aagathadi
    Film: Chinthamani
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: Papanasam Sivan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Chenchuruthi

    Song: Rajan Maharajan
    Film: Shyamala
    Star: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: G Ramanathan
    Lyric: G S Roya Sundaram
    Ragam: Huseini

    Song: Sara Sarangal
    Film: Thiruneelakanter
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: Papanasam Sivan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: ??

    Song: Sathva Guna Bodhan
    Film: Ashok Kumar
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: Papanasam Sivan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Jonpuri

    Song: Sivaperumaan Krupai Vendum
    Film: Naveena Sarangatara
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: Papanasam Sivan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Suruthi

    Song: Sollupappa
    Film: Sathya Seelan
    Star: M K T & M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: ??
    Lyric: Janakam Kavikunjaram
    Ragam: ??

    Song: Soppana Vaazhivil
    Film: Sivakavi
    Star: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: G Ramanathan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Sivaranjani, Vijayanaagari

    Song: Suttum Vizhichudarthaan
    Film: Puthuvaazhvu
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: ??
    Lyric: Bharathiyar
    Ragam: ??

    Song: Thillayil Nayakane
    Film: Sivakami
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: K V Mahadevan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: ??

    Song: Un Azhakai
    Film: Thiruneelakanter
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: Papanasam Sivan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: ??

    Song: Unnai Kandu Mayangatha Pergal Undo
    Film: Ashok Kumar
    Star: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thyagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: Papanasam Sivan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Bhairavi

    Song: Vallalai Paadum Vaazhyaal
    Film: Sivakavi
    Star: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: G Ramanathan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Chenchuruti

    Song: Vasantha Ruthu
    Film: Sivakavi
    Star: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar, S Jayalakshmi
    MD: G Ramanathan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Vasantha, Kunthalavarali,
    YadhukulaKambhoji, Suruthi

    Song: Vathaname Chandra Bimbamo Malarndha Sarojamo
    Film: Sivakavi
    Star: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
    Singer: M K Thayagaraja Bhagavathar
    MD: G Ramanathan
    Lyric: Papanasam Sivan
    Ragam: Sindhu Bhairavi

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    saketh (@ call*) on: Tue May 19 23:55:18 EDT 1998




    Additions in/to Satish's list

    1. Pavazhal maal varai - Ragas Bairavi, Kalyani and Manirangu

    2. Gnaana sabayil - SArangA?






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    Sathiya Keerthi (@ syne*) on: Wed May 20 01:27:37 EDT 1998




    Satish:

    You are probably right about Rajamukthi being
    the last movie by MKTB. The MD was CRSubbaraman.

    An interesting digression...

    CRS was keen to make MKTB sing in his music
    and he got this chance first in 1945, in the
    movie, UdhayaNan-Vaasavadhaththai in
    which MKTB and Vasundhra Dhevi were chosen as
    hero-heroine. CRS was so excited, made the tunes,
    and all was set to record MKTB's voice for the
    first time under CRS. At that moment MKTB was
    urgently called outside by a friend and MKTB
    had to leave in a hurry without recording that
    song. Half hour later they got the news that
    MKTB was arrested in connection with Lakshmikanthan
    murder case. It later turned out that GNB was
    replaced as the hero for that same movie and
    CRS was also replaced by CSJeyaraman (yes, the
    same pokkaivaai pugazh CSJ) as MD! CRS had to wait
    till 1948 when MKTB was released from prison
    and when MKTB produced his own movie, Rajamukthi, to
    record MKTB's voice under his music. There is one
    more popular song in that movie (apart from
    maanida janmam that you mentioned above):

    unaiyallaamal oru thurumbasaiyumO

    It seems this song is in Saramathi raagam.





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    Sathiya Keerthi (@ syne*) on: Wed May 20 01:29:20 EDT 1998




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    Ramaswamy Gireesan (@ m42.*) on: Wed May 20 03:48:31 EDT 199




    Satish,

    I think 'unnazhagaik kANa iru kaNgaL pOthAthE' is in Madhyamavathi.

    Sollu paappaa is in Punnagavarali.
    Chandra suriyar is in Maand.

    Regards

    G.Ramaswamy





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