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MORE INFO ON MGR SONGS

1. In Tamil Film music SM Subbiah Naidu cannot be overlooked. The first song of TMS was under the music of SMS. MGR's first playback was by MM Mariappa, a relation of MGR- in the film Rajakumari. It is also said that this is the first playback song in Tamil. The first song of Kannadasan "Kalangathiru Manamey" in Kanniyin Kathali 1948 was given music composition by SMS. The first kolgai song of MGR and the first TMS voice for MGR was also by SMS in Malaikkallan. The song is Ethanai Kaalamthan Ematruvar intha Naattile. MGR overheard TMS singing "Konjum Kiliana Pennai Koondukkiliakkivittu" for the film Koondukili. He heard this in the studio and saw Sri Ramulu of Pachirajan films to use TMS for Malaikkallan. So was this song sung by TMS for MGR.

2. Many had been MDs for MGR movies. The last was Ilayaraja. Surprising? After MGR became CM there was the Parliamentary Elections in 1980 in which he got only two seats. He visibly shivered. Then he wanted to go back to silver screen to boost up his politics. He got Morarji Deasai -the then CM to allow him to act in films. Permission was granted. Vali wrote the songs and got TMS to even record a few songs. Ilayaraja composed music. Vali gave the title to the film- "Unnai Vida Matten". Later MGR changed his mind and abondended the effort. So the film never came out.

3. When Vali was composing songs for MGR, the usual "wolves" carried tales to MGR. This caused a drift between Vali and MGR. So Kannadasan was once again used by MGR. Just before that MGR had announced "From now onwards Vali would be the one writing songs for my films." implying that Kannadasan is out of favour. But after the wolves had done sufficent home work, Vali was kept away by MGR. Vali became downtroddedn economically, and was sufering from financial crisis. Later while songs were being produced for the film Thazhamboo, MGR sent message to Vali to compose "One " song for the film. Vali wrote a song and sent it away to the studio for recording. This is about the only song where Vali directly communicated his heart's feelings to MGR. Then they patched up their differences. The song in which Vali speaks to MGR is:

Engey Povidum Kaalam?-Athu
Ennaiyum Vazha vaikkum-Nee
Idayathai Thiranthu Vaithaal-athu
Unnaiyum Vaazhavaikkum

Ullathai Cholli Nallathai Cheithu
Varuvathai Varattum Enriruppom
Kannerellaaam Punnagaiyaagum
Kadamayin Vazhiye Ninriruppom.

Oru Sila Perkal Oru Sila Natkal
Unmayin Kankalai Thiranthu vaippar
Poruthavarellaam Pongi Ezhiunthey
Moodiya Kankalai Thiranthu Vaippaar

Kalkalirukka Kaikalirukka
Kavalaikal Nammai Enna Seiyum?
Uzhaippathu Onre Seyalenak Kondaal
Nadappathu Nalamaai Nadanthuvidum"

MGR got the message and immediately patched up.

4. In many intimate moments with Vali MGR had pured the burden from his heart. As Vali pointed out how several of the songs written by Vali had materialised, MGR pointed out that there is one song that could never materialise. That is from Panam Padaithavan.

"Enokkoru Magan Pirappaan
Avan Ennai Polave Iruppaan
Thanakkoru Paathaiyai Vagukkamal
En Thalaivan Vazhiyile Nadpaaan."

5. When MGR was the CM he hastily mentioned that the ADMK is implementing the principles embedded in the songs from his films. But upon pressure from the press he could not identify specifically those principles or songs. Immediately CHO Ramaswamy quoted the following song from Oli Vilakku in his Thuklak fortnighly:

Nanga Puthusa Kattikittta Jodithanunga-
Damukkadippan Diyalo Damukaadipan Dayalo...
Eh Singi.. Eh Singaa...

6. After Kannadasan left DMK in 1961 Velore meeting, there was a big vacuum in the DMK. MGR was pestering Vali to join politics, and Vali refused firmly. When Megala Pictures of Karunanithi took Engal Thangam, he was the CM. Vali wrote a song and several dignitaries including Vali were waiting for Kalignar to give an OK for the song. Karunanithi came late and heard the song. He was very satisfied with the rythm and the rhyming in the song. HE saw the poetic ability latent in Vali. He took Vali to a side and told him to present poems in the Trichy Radio Kaviarangam where Kalaignar was presiding. The song that touched Karunanithi most was:

Thanga Pathakkathin Mele -Oru
Muthu Pathithathu Pole-Unthan
Pattu Kannathn Mele- Onru
Thottu Koduthidalama-Neeyum
Vittu Koduthidalaama

Mulaippoo Pallakku Adai Sumanthu
Mellath Thavazhvathu Kandu-
Oru Kodi Ennam Aasai Nenjil
Minni Maraivathu Undu
Azhagu Nadaiyai Pazhagum Chilaiyai
Anaikka Vanthene-Ithazhkal Pozhiyum
Amutha Mazhayil Mithakka Vanthene

Pattadai Thottada Thenral Kulirnthu
Pakkam Nadanthathu Enna
Uyir Kathal Thalaivan Kaval Irukka
Thottu Izhuppathu Enna?
Paniyil Nanayum Malarin Udalil
Kuliradikkatho?
Oruvan Madiyil Mayangum Pozhuthu
Sugam Pirakkatho

Kothodu Muthada Vanjik Kodiyai
Thottu Thodarvathu enna?
Anthi Maalai Pozhuthin Kathal Ninaivai
Kotti Alappathu enna?
Oorum Uravum Ariyum Varayil Kankal Mattodu
Manamaalai Tholil Soodum Naalil
Kaikal Thottaadu.

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MGR SONG INFO CONTIUES

1. There was a song written by Vali and totally rejected by MGR. MGR was acting a film for his brother Chakrabani "Arasakattalai"

Vali wrote the follwing pallavi:

Aandavan Kattalai Munnaley Arasak
Kattalai Ennavaagum"

MGR immediately rejected as the film Aandavan Kattalai was also in the production stage. The song clearly impiled that Arasakattalai would be nothing compared to Aandavan Kattalai of Sivaji Ganesan.

2. There was a song that Vali wrote for a BR Bantulu film Nadodi. But MSV rejected saying that the song should be used in Raja Rani story and not in films with social themes. Vali liked the song so much that he gave it to KVM for the film Arasa Kattalai. KVM, MGR and everyone else accepted the lyrics in toto. The song, which is one of the best of Vali is:

Putham Puthiya Puthagame-Unnaip
Puratti Paarkum Pulavan Naan
Pothikai Valartha Senthamizhe
Paattil Vadikkum Kavingan Naan.

Palliyarai Ennum Palliyile Indru
Puthithaai Vantha Maanavi Naan
Ettai Puratti Paattaip Padikkum
Veetu Pulavan Nayagi Naan

Anju Viral Pattal Enna
Anjugathai Thottaal Enna
Thotta Sugam Onraa Enna
Thullum Ullam Pantha Enna

Sevvithazhai Kandaal Enna
Theneduthu Undaal Enna

Kothu Malarch Chenda Enna
Konjum Mannan Vanda Enna

Kaiyanaikka Vanthaal Enna
Meiyanaithuk Kondaal Enna

Muthamazhai Enraal Enna
Sorgamn Onru Unda Enna

Vetkam varum Vanthaal Enna
Vendiyathai Thanthaal Enna

Innum Konjam Sonnal Enna
Inbam Inbam Ebnraal Enna.


3. MSV once challenged Vali to produce a masterpiece. Should a song of that calibre be produced MSV was willing to present his gold chain, ring and gold plated Rolex watch to him. He did take them out and place on the harmonium box.
After a moment's thought Vali wrote the follwing song:

Kaatru Vanga Ponen-oru
Kavithai Vangi Vanthen -athai
kettu Vangi Ponaal-Antha
Kanni Enna Aanaal?

MSV was impressed and gave away what he promised, but Vali refused to take them. Later Avvai Nadarajan who was Secretary for Tamil Development in the Secretariat mentioned at a gathering that no one could write songs like Kannadasan. He then wrongly quoted this song to be the work of Kannadasan.


4. We all know that the film Thalaivan was delayed. MGR blamed Vali for having writen a song that had brought about the delay. MGR quoted the follwing song from the film:

Neerazhi Mandapathil-Thendral
Neenthivarum Nalliravil-Thalaivan
Vaaramal Kaathirukka...

The line Thalaivan Vaaramal Kaathirukka was the one that brought about the delay, said MGR. It was very timely that the advertisement board was carried into the studio then. Vali quickly pointed out to a spelling mistake in the advertisement which also conveyed a twisted meaning. Instead of reading "Thomas Pictures" it read Thamasa Pictures." So Vali pointed out that mistake to conveniently clear himself. OF course this was spoken in light vein.


5. MGR goes through every line in the lyrics. Maruthakazi once told me how meticulous MGR is in approving songs. In the film Ninaithathai Mudippavan, there is a song "Kannai Nambathey Unnai Ematrum" In the charanam Maruthakazi had written:

Pon Purulaik Kandavudan Vantha Vazhi Maranthuvittu- Than Vazhiye Pokiravar Pogattume"

MGR immediately pointed out what if the "than Vazhi happens to be a good vazhi" Maruthakazi was shocked at the sharpness of MGR's observation. So Maruthakazi immediately substituted the line as
"Kan Moodi Pogiravar Pogattumey"
The full line then became:

Pon Porulai Kandavudan Vantha Vazhi Maranthuvittu-
Kan Moodi Pogiravar Pogattume"

Vanakkam.

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Oh..Mani..puththam puthiya puththagam is by vaali ? That is indeed a great info.

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Manisegaran,
Thanks for making this thread one which actually imparts information worth reading. A breath of fresh air indeed. Please keep it coming.

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sariyaa sonneenga Udhaya..evLO naaL thaan araichcha mavaiyE araikkirathu

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manisegaran) In kannai nambaathey song the original line written, I heard, was 'maN moodi pogiRavar pogattume'. But MGR did not like the negative words. So he changed it to 'kaN moodi pogiRavar pogattume'

Are you sure MGR never rides two wheelers. Because I have the movie 'Thaikku thalai magan' where there are several scenes of clear front shots of MGR and JJ in Scooters.

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manisegaran avargalae,

ungalukku en vanthanam.

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Ranga
My version is the correct one. Not only MAruthakazi told me, it is also found in the introduction to the collection of Maruthakazi songs where he himself has given an account of the song.

The two wheeler scene in Thaikku Thalai Maagan, Deivathai and En Kadamai etc are all the result of what we call "back projection" in cinema technology.

Thanks.

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Dear Rathathin Rathangaley,
I'm down with flu.I'll continue posting in one or two day's time. Forgive me for the moment.

Anbudan,
Manisegaran

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Malaysia-lum flu-a....inge Bay area-vilum athe thaan.