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    திரைப்படம் பொண்ணுக்கேத்த புருஷன் (1992)
    பாடல் - ஜல் ஜல் சலங்கை குலுங்க.

    சொல்லிச் சொல்லி ஆறாது சொன்னா துயர் தீராது...

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    Venkkiram & Thozhar - Great analysis of songs post-1991. I didn't comment on Gopal's time lines to determine the peak popularity period for TFM directors. It's not fair to say that MSV's musical talent or songs were mediocre/ sub-par after 1969. The same holds true for KVM, Raaja and Rahman. Raaja and Rahman are still composing music and they churn our melodies. This phenomenon of peaks and lows is common in any field - Hollywood music, sports, classical music, literature, etc. The musical taste of Tamil film fans has moved from MSV to Raaja to Rahman to present day Kuthu Masters. People who like Raaja or Rahman or MSV still continue to listen and enjoy their musical creations. Rahman & Raaja have compared this to people's food taste. Our century old, traditional plantain leaf lunch and breakfast (Idli, Vada, Pongal, Sambhar) is no longer the favorite with current generation. Pizza, Burgers, Pasta and Chinese noodles are the craze nowadays. Our present day Kuthu Masters churn out way-side Maggi noodles which last for 72 hours when they hit 4 or 5 Million/ Lacs viewers in YouTube. These songs last for 3-4 days.

    Folks who like the melodies from MSV, Raaja and Rahman would continue to support and listen to their creations. It's unfair to put a time stamp for genuine creativity. As Gangai Amaran correctly observed, KVM or Raaja or MSV or Rahman have their own mold of composing music and they hardly deviate from their style or method. The present day Kuthu assemblers don't have any style or method. They throw Chilli powder or Garam Masala or Malli Powder into Maggi noodles and make a dish. No one will die eating this but they survive to eat another Maggi noodles after few days.

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    1997

    காதலுக்கு மரியாதை
    தேவதை
    கடவுள்
    ஒரு யாத்ரமொழி
    குரு,
    ராமன் அப்துல்லா,
    பூஞ்சோலை,
    புண்ணியவதி
    சொல்லிச் சொல்லி ஆறாது சொன்னா துயர் தீராது...

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    1998

    கண்களின் வார்த்தைகள்
    காதல் கவிதை
    கிழக்கும் மேற்கும்
    வீரத்தாலாட்டு
    தர்மா
    தேசிய கீதம்
    கண்ணாத்தாள்
    பூந்தோட்டம்
    செந்தூரம்
    சொல்லிச் சொல்லி ஆறாது சொன்னா துயர் தீராது...

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    1999

    சேது
    பொன்னுவீட்டுக்காரன்
    கும்மிப்பாட்டு
    மனம் விரும்புதே உன்னை
    ஃப்ரண்ட்ஸ்
    நிலவே முகம் காட்டு
    முகம்
    டைம்
    சொல்லிச் சொல்லி ஆறாது சொன்னா துயர் தீராது...

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    காதல் ரோஜாவே
    ஹேராம்
    கண்ணுக்குள் நிலவு
    காக்கைச்சிறகினிலே
    திருநெல்வேலி
    பாரதி
    பாண்டவாஸ்
    சொல்லிச் சொல்லி ஆறாது சொன்னா துயர் தீராது...

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    2001

    குட்டி
    லஜ்ஜா
    ஃப்ரண்ட்ஸ்
    கண்ணா உன்னைத் தேடுகிறேன்
    காசி
    ஆண்டான் அடிமை
    சொல்லிச் சொல்லி ஆறாது சொன்னா துயர் தீராது...

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    2002

    அழகி
    சொல்ல மறந்த கதை
    என்மன வானில்
    ரமணா
    சொல்லிச் சொல்லி ஆறாது சொன்னா துயர் தீராது...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajsekar View Post
    Venkkiram & Thozhar - Great analysis of songs post-1991. I didn't comment on Gopal's time lines to determine the peak popularity period for TFM directors. It's not fair to say that MSV's musical talent or songs were mediocre/ sub-par after 1969. The same holds true for KVM, Raaja and Rahman. Raaja and Rahman are still composing music and they churn our melodies. This phenomenon of peaks and lows is common in any field - Hollywood music, sports, classical music, literature, etc. The musical taste of Tamil film fans has moved from MSV to Raaja to Rahman to present day Kuthu Masters. People who like Raaja or Rahman or MSV still continue to listen and enjoy their musical creations. Rahman & Raaja have compared this to people's food taste. Our century old, traditional plantain leaf lunch and breakfast (Idli, Vada, Pongal, Sambhar) is no longer the favorite with current generation. Pizza, Burgers, Pasta and Chinese noodles are the craze nowadays. Our present day Kuthu Masters churn out way-side Maggi noodles which last for 72 hours when they hit 4 or 5 Million/ Lacs viewers in YouTube. These songs last for 3-4 days.

    Folks who like the melodies from MSV, Raaja and Rahman would continue to support and listen to their creations. It's unfair to put a time stamp for genuine creativity. As Gangai Amaran correctly observed, KVM or Raaja or MSV or Rahman have their own mold of composing music and they hardly deviate from their style or method. The present day Kuthu assemblers don't have any style or method. They throw Chilli powder or Garam Masala or Malli Powder into Maggi noodles and make a dish. No one will die eating this but they survive to eat another Maggi noodles after few days.
    rajsekar, fair enough. But, won't you agree that we have all changed? Your passion for listening to timeless creations and ignoring instant kuthu hits is commendable and compelling but aren't we all different? The purpose of music itself varies between people. For some, it is to calm them down, attain inner peace, for others it is just to pass time while they are performing other activities (like working out for example), for others, it is just to enjoy dancing while they are inebriated. If you consider music is holy, then perhaps the last purpose I listed is evil but who are we to judge others? For some (many?), making money in life is the only goal; while for others, it is to help others. Can we allege the former group is evil? I understand, respect, and share your personal opinion. In fact, the other day I happened to listen to this new "song" sung by actress Trisha. Terrible lyrics, even terrible music and singing. Clearly a gimmick to prop up the album (whoever thought that making Trisha sing will make people buy the album must be insane). But perhaps there are people who like it, who knows. All I am saying is it is not fair to comment on the taste of others. Perhaps when they grow up, their taste will change. There are so many people we know personally who loved kuthu songs when they were kids only for them to fall in love with MSV or Raja when they grew up.

    BTW, there are several who love the traditional plantain leaf meal over pizzas, burgers, and other fast foods. We don't need to worry about the majority in this case. Raja or Rahman aren't going to change their composing style just to satisfy the masses and start churning out kuthu numbers in lieu of melodies. Raja is not just a song maker. He brought about a change in the 70s when people were switching to Hindi film music (doesn't mean MSV wasn't composing great music then). Can he bring it again? Certainly, but father time is greater than everyone else. Everyone has their time. Mind you, I am not referring to their creations.

    This is what I was trying to say all the time but that other character that I wasted my time arguing with just doesn't seem to be able to get his/her head around this.

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    2003

    பிதாமகன்
    ஜூலி கணபதி
    Manassinakkare
    நிழல்குத்து
    மனசெல்லாம்

    2004

    விருமாண்டி
    காமராஜ்
    விஸ்வதுளசி

    2005

    அது ஒரு கனாக்காலம்
    சிதம்பரத்தில் ஒரு அப்பாசாமி
    Achuvinte Amma
    மும்பை எக்ஸ்பிரஸ்
    ஒரு நாள் ஒரு கனவு
    கஸ்தூரி மான்
    பொன் மேகலை
    சொல்லிச் சொல்லி ஆறாது சொன்னா துயர் தீராது...

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