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24th October 2014, 08:26 PM
#71
Originally Posted by
pushpak
There are two sides to it.
Many of us admire Kamal for his standards and the layers we can see in Kamal's movies are beyond comparisons.
Many of us are proud to see such classics which do not follow the "mass" pattern getting very good commercial success as well.
But the openings we see for movies like Kathi can be achieved only if Kamal "lowers" his standard.
As a hardcore fan, I WANTED him to do that atleast until 2 years ago. But now I feel we have 10 stars who can do "mass" movies; let Nammavar keep making the movies which are close to his heart.
But only thing I cannot welcome is why he still acting in movies which are neither "there" nor "here'
Any examples of neither there not here type of movies, also kamal should do movies that can connect with audience, sometimes movies close to his heart don't make that connection, my 2 cents.
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24th October 2014 08:26 PM
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24th October 2014, 09:22 PM
#72
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Originally Posted by
pushpak
There are two sides to it.
But the openings we see for movies like Kathi can be achieved only if Kamal "lowers" his standard.
Big difference .. Vijay fans lap up pretty much everything Vijay provides and his BO success depends on the rest. But Kamal fans have no hesitation in rejecting his below average movies. So even if Kamal decides to do a commercial movie, his fan base must be satisfied let alone others.
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25th October 2014, 12:15 AM
#73
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Originally Posted by
bill4u
Big difference .. Vijay fans lap up pretty much everything Vijay provides and his BO success depends on the rest. But Kamal fans have no hesitation in rejecting his below average movies. So even if Kamal decides to do a commercial movie, his fan base must be satisfied let alone others.
This is because there are high expectations from a Kamal movie not only as an actor but for his story selection, screenplay, for taut script, for the emotive display etc etc.
Wishing Uthamma Villain and Papanaasam to satisfy all sort of audience...
many want Kamal to innovate himself and come out with something new...surprising...shocking....electrifying....som ething unheard of...a new genre....
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25th October 2014, 06:30 AM
#74
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Originally Posted by
Unmai Vilambi
kumarsr..cant understand what you want to say.
his knowledge comes in way of his films?? come on..thats what keeps him aside from the 'crowd'. his movies are at least 10 years ahead of the time of release. he expects his fans to search net to know what is Cesium and see the movie again to understand better.
he will remain in the top of Eiffel tower and intelligent cinema lovers are already reaching him there.
Well...you are correct. Movies like Vishwaroopam takes enormous amount of research compared to others but just like what others here say, we can agree that he can also try to connect more with his core thamizh audience. The problem is he is forced to walk a delicate balance - it has to be entertaining (not the Faraday shield/Ceasium/butterfly effect type but more traditional masala) but also stand out and be different and compatible with his ideas. But of late, he has also been weighed down by more loftier ambitions - appealing across to the bollywood audience and may be even international while at the same time trying to balance his core audience and make business sense. Hence you see some scenes that fall into traditional masala type - like the transformation scene within a very rational, radical, international theme - a South Asian tackling an international menace whose epicenter is in South Asia (Afghanistan). The net result is certainly a movie that is a novelty, which is one of the reasons the movie was a huge hit. But at the same time, it does not fully satisfy his core base - like the way his older hits like 16 Vayathinilae, Nayagan, Apporva..., Devar Magar, Moonram Pirai etc.
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25th October 2014, 06:42 AM
#75
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Originally Posted by
ramdas2005
Any examples of neither there not here type of movies, also kamal should do movies that can connect with audience, sometimes movies close to his heart don't make that connection, my 2 cents.
IMHO, it is a function of time and results friend.
Manmadan Ambu - Is it a classic? It was supposed to be "commercial". In that case when younger directors (e.g. Murugadoss) are waiting for him, he should not do "semi-commercial".
What I mean by lowering the standard is - how to explain... he acts in a commercial movie, but with restrictions that he will not do a kuthu song, will not say mass dialogues etc etc because those are too commercialised, results also will be not great.
I am not saying Nammvar should do that. But if commercial movie is done, go for it completely.
If projected as a no-brainer movie, there will not be any false expectations.
Another example is Papanasam - it is taking more time than the original - I wonder why !!!
If Pooja to release happens in 2 months similar to Drishyam, it is still ok.
I hope Uttama villain will be great - not a light comedy movie as being projected by some media.
Best of luck - dear Tamil Film Industry ! ! !
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25th October 2014, 07:08 AM
#76
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Originally Posted by
bill4u
Big difference .. Vijay fans lap up pretty much everything Vijay provides and his BO success depends on the rest. But Kamal fans have no hesitation in rejecting his below average movies. So even if Kamal decides to do a commercial movie, his fan base must be satisfied let alone others.
Sorry - nothing against Vijay. I just took up an example.
I was an active member in one fans association. Let us do not think that all this huge fan base was made because of Nayakans and Swathimuthyams
Tell me the scene where the fans were most excited in Viswaroopam?
Having said all these, sometime I feel let him give some crap than not giving any movie for years
Best of luck - dear Tamil Film Industry ! ! !
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25th October 2014, 09:44 AM
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25th October 2014, 06:42 PM
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Devar Magan (Released on 25th Oct 1992)
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25th October 2014, 07:31 PM
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wow..goose bumps just by seeing the poster. what a movie..apt example of commercial + art mix
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25th October 2014, 07:33 PM
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Watched Pushpak.
Can a classic movie be made simpler? The print has to be kept intact. Digitalization or whatever technology upgrades - and cater to the next generation.
Best of luck - dear Tamil Film Industry ! ! !
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