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Thread: Chevalier Dr. Kamal Haasanin Mayyam - Part 9

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    The problem with most of people is that they are relating to GOD/Cosmic energy as an "External" source, only few turns inwards and realize that this "Cosmic Energy" is functioning within, to realise this techniques / methodologies known as Yoga/Meditation were introduce in "sanatana dharma" !

    But for Many GOD has become more like businessman / women!

    I was listening to Jaggi vasudev talks, he once said a joke about his imaginary friend "Sankakaran Pillai"

    Once Sankaran Pillai was in such a happy mood after seeing a beautiful women, he started singing "rup tera mastana", he suddenly started saying "Siva Siva" after seeing a snake !

    The moral of the story ,"Everything is just a state of mind"

    This cosmic energy exists within every single organism on planet in the form of Pancha bhoothas!
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    Om Namaste astu Bhagavan Vishveshvaraya Mahadevaya Triambakaya Tripurantakaya Trikalagni kalaya kalagnirudraya Neelakanthaya Mrutyunjayaya Sarveshvaraya Sadashivaya Shriman Mahadevaya Namah Om Namah Shivaye Om Om Namah Shivaye Om Om Namah Shivaye

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    Quote Originally Posted by venkkiram View Post
    Sir, I do not understand logically those statements.. Please explain me in a better way so that I can understand.
    //Someone who doesn't believe in God or the existence of God doesn't have to question it again when a disaster happens.//
    An atheist is someone who says there is no god, disaster or not. So, he doesn't have to criticize god for disaster. He might remind the public that their god did not save them, but that will be rude. KH did not do that,

    //That will be done by theists, who can't believe their god can be a spectator to or perpetrator of such disasters. //
    One who questions God, should be a theist, because it takes the belief of god's existence to question god.

    That's what I meant, answering Sakala's point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidyasakaran View Post
    An atheist is one who has the conviction that there is no god. So, on seeing the suffering, the first thing that comes to his/her mind is not god; rather it is those who are supposed to have done their job to prevent or alleviate the pain. He doesn't criticize god, who is supposed to help. He knows there is no god, to help.
    No, we all end up justifying what we are and why we are now and then. He justifies why he has become what he is now. He wants other believers's esp his fans to understand that. That's all.

    See, it does not bother atheists or agnostic people, ONLY it bothers theists who are Kh fans. So, what does it tell you?
    This is a very big world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thamiz View Post
    That's your way of DEFINING atheist. Not all theists can be put under "one definition". Neither can you put all "atheists" in your "definition"!
    There is no my way of defining that. That is what it is.
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheist - a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.
    you can refer to any of 'your' dictionaries as well.

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    Completely agree with what KH has said. This whole situation is the fault of the ruling government.

    Delay in opening sluice gates caused flooding

    CHENNAI: The flood that ravaged Chennai last week was not a natural disaster, but one caused by the state bureaucracy's failure to regulate release of water from Chembarambakkam reservoir (lake) in the outskirts of the city.

    Those privy to developments in the state secretariat during the last week of November say that in the wake of international weather forecast agencies predicting 500mm of rain for Chennai on December 1 and 2, public works department (PWD) officials had advised the PWD secretary and other senior bureaucrats on November 26 to bring down the water level in the reservoir from 22ft to below 18ft so the lake could absorb heavy inflow four days later. There was not much rain between November 26 and 29 and Adyar river, too, which originates from this lake, had very little water.

    The proposal to release lake water was caught in bureaucratic red tape. Sources said the PWD secretary waited for chief secretary's nod to open the sluice gates — and whose nod the chief secretary was waiting for still remains a mystery. In effect, the disaster caused in Punjab by heavy release of water from the Bhakra Nangal dam two years ago was repeated in Chennai.

    Orders to open the Chembarambakkam sluice gates — rather flood gates — were not received till the city received was pounded with rain and the reservoir started overflowing. "The state administration maintained that the release from the reservoir into Adyar river was only 33,500 cusecs (cubic feet per second; 1 cubic ft is 28.3 litres of water), which is the maximum capacity of the gates, from December 1 night onwards. But the actual release was more than double that, and nobody has any idea how much it was because water was overflowing from Chembarambakkam after the reservoir reached its full capacity of 24 feet. The problem was compounded as Athannur lake breached, releasing about 5,000 cusecs into the Adyar," said a highly placed source in PWD.

    In effect, Adyar was carrying more than one lakh cusecs of water on December 2 and 3, said a senior IAS official, who was coordinating rescue operations. "The city has paid the price for having a bunch of bureaucrats who don't have the guts to act on their own. We were lucky that the reservoir, despite overflowing, did not breach," he said.


    "Flooding of Chennai and suburbs could have been averted by better management of water release," said Madras Institute of Development Studies professor S Janakarajan. The administration should not have viewed Chembarambakkam in isolation. The lake and Adyar river are connected to about 200 tanks, he said. Even if 33,500 cusecs had been released from Chembarambakkam, by the time the water reached Saidapet, it would have swelled to 60,000 cusecs because of additional flow from other water bodies enroute. The administration failed to gauge this and hapless people paid the price for it, he explained.

    Janakarajan said the government should view all water bodies, roughly 3,600 of them, in Chennai, Kancheepuram and Thiruvallur districts as one watershed as they are hydrologically connected to one another. "If the government cleans up all those water bodies, they can hold about 30 tmcft (thousand million cubic feet) of water. Moreover, it will also prevent flooding in future," he said.

    The magnitude of the disaster was more because there was no advisory issued to people living in low-lying areas, warning them that their homes could get flooded. To add to the misery, Chennai city police officers were instructed to keep their cell phones switched off (much before mobile phone towers went down) and carry out all communications only through wireless sets. Hence, people in distress could not seek help by reaching out to officials in their locality.


    TOI's repeated efforts to get responses from the chief secretary and PWD secretary went in vain. Some pertinent questions that remain unanswered are: Whose orders were the bureaucrats waiting for to open the reservoir sluices? Will anybody be held responsible for the lapses? And, at least now, will the government put a standard operating procedure in place to keep reservoirs at safe levels? Will a better system be evolved to warn people living on river banks before gates are opened?.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/50099873.cms
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    Quote Originally Posted by vidyasakaran View Post
    There is no my way of defining that. That is what it is.
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheist - a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.
    you can refer to any of 'your' dictionaries as well.
    This is also defined by someone who is not perfect. Right?
    This is a very big world!

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    Nikil Murugan has been shown the door by KH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thamiz View Post
    This is also defined by someone who is not perfect. Right?
    That emoticon! That is the perfect part of your response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajaybaskar View Post
    Nikil Murugan has been shown the door by KH?

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    looks like it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajaybaskar View Post
    Nikil Murugan has been shown the door by KH?

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    oh!! whats the reason?

    he definitely needs a better PRO with respect to clearing the air/rumours. Nikhil seems to be little bit of a rookie in this Social Media World

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