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    Thank you everybody.

    Aravind, I am here as always but confined to NT Forum. Time constranint but I do peep in here and update myself.

    A to A, thanks and my pleasure. Book?, well long pending. Will have to seriously think about it.

    irir,

    As for as I know,the rift between Balaji and Ilaiyaraja started way back in 1979 when Balaji’s Nallathoru Kudumbam (starring Sivaji and Vanishree) was under production. Again to my understanding there were two issues the primary one being the clash between IR and TMS which actually led to the second issue.

    Sorry, again need to do a flashback reporting. Starting from 1967 till 1976, Balaji produced 8 films with NT out of which the first 4 were directed by ACT and the next 4 were directed by CVR. All the 8 films had music by MSV. At the end of 1976, when Balaji started his next venture he completely changed his team. K.Vijayan came in as the director and Balaji roped in IR who had made his debut in that year. That movie Deepam released on 26th January 1977 was a runaway success and Balaji’s next movie Thyagam came out in March 1978 with the sam ecombo and it turned out to be a blockbuster. As a third in row, Balaji started Nallathoru Kudumbam again with NT – IR- K.Vijayan. But before Nallathoru Kudumbam was started, story writer R.Selvaraj’s debut directorial venture Ponnu Ooruku Pudhusu came out in May 1978 which had the famous song Oram Po Oram Po Rukmani vandi Varudhu. Months after this when TMS had visited Srilanka it seems that he gave an interview to a newspaper there (Veerakesari if I am not off the mark) wherein he lambasted IR saying that people who compose such songs would soon be sidelined ( Oramaga Othukkappaduvaargal). TMS had reasons for this whiplash. He felt that IT is sidelining him and giving away his chances to other singers. Even for NT, other voices were being used.

    To quote another incident here would make people understand the under currents better. MGR who was the Chief Minister at that point of time decided to act in a movie that was to be produced by G.K.Dharmaraj who under his Yoga Chitra banner had earlier produced Ilaiya Thalaimurai with NT [a precursor to Kamal’s Nammavar]. This MGR movie named “Unnai Vida Maatten” had Ilaiya Raja as the Music director and the Pooja was held on the Tamil New Year’s day (ie) 14th April of 1978. On the day of Pooja a song was recorded and it was sung by TMS. But later for reasons best known to IR, he recorded the same song with Malaysia Vasudevan. This had angered TMS [But the film never progressed beyond that point is another story]. During the same period Sivaji’s Naan Vaazha Vaippen was also under production and IR was the music director for tha film also. If you had seen the film, Sivaji had three songs in it out of which Thirutheril Varum Silaiyo and Ennodu Paadungal were sung by SPB while TMS had only Endhan Ponvanname. But Ennodu Paadungal was originally recorded with TMS and later replaced with the version sung by SPB. This too played a huge part in TMS denouncing IR in the interview.

    IR for his part decided not to use TMS anymore and he had no problem since by that time except for NT there was no requirement for TMS and even for NT films IR started using other voices. Especially in 1979, when NT had 7 releases, 5 out of it had music by IR. Of these Kavari Maan and Pattakathi Baiaravan had no TMS. Naan Vaazha Vaippen had only one song of TMS and the other two namely Nallathoru Kudumbam and Vetrikku Oruvan had TMS songs. So wherever he could boss over, IR had his way and only when the producer was big, he acceded to their request. So Rishimoolam that got released on 26th January 1980 was the last film of Sivaji that had TMS singing under IR. After which there was a long gap and it was Vellai Roja that came out during 1983 deepavali saw IR working for a Sivaji movie after which there were many Sivaji films that had IR music but there was no TMS. In 1986 producer KRG produced Thaikku oru Thalaattu with NT and Padmini in the lead that had IR as the music director. KRG and director Balachandra Menon had wanted a song for Sivaji and Padmini that would reminiisce the Golden era of Sivaji- Padmini pair. Vairamuthu had penned the lyrics for that movie and this song Pazhaya Paadal Pole Puthiya Paadal Illai was written for which the tune of Unnai Ondru Ketpen from Puthiya Paravai was used. This movie came out in July 1986 by which time Ilaiay Raja had fallen off with Vairamuthu too. So it is alleged that IR during the RR previaled upon Menon not to use that song and instead called upon Vaali to write a title song and this delayed the movie by 10 days or so. The film that was supposed to hit the screens on 4th July of 1986 was postponed to 11th and producer KRG who had badly wanted the song could wait no longer and since the Tamil month of Aadi will start on 17th of July, he hurriedly released the movie on 16th of July 1986 which fell on a Wednesday an unusual day for a movie release without the song. The movie’s song cassette had come out before the release and this song had become quite popular and for people like us who saw the opening show on the morning of 16th , it was huge disappointment. Sorry for the digression and let us come back to 1979.

    The problem between Balaji and IR started during Nallathoru Kudumbam days. IR wanted to use SPB for that movie but Balaji refusded. It seems that Balaji and IR had an argument on this It is not that Balaji was against using SPB. In fact SPB had sung for Sivaji himself in Balaji’s films like Raja and Unakkaga Naan but Balaji was against using SPB for all song completely sidelining TMS. Balaji in cine circles was known as a tough nut and it is a well known fact that he was one who never brooked any indiscipline. And it did not go down well with him that a person just 3 years old in to the system however great he may be, dictating terms to him. He decised never to engage IR again for his movies and he struck to his decision till his last movie as a producer.

    So he started using MSV again from Billa but after some time say 1981 fag end when distributors wanted the music flavour of that season in his films, Balaji roped in Gangai Amaran rather than going back to IR. GA did music for 3 films for Balaji [Vaazhve Maayam, Needhipadhi and Sattam] after which he switched to Shankar Ganesh, Chandra Bose etc.

    Sorry for the long essay but the TMS-IR clash was the primary reason and Balaji- IR spat was incidental to it.

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    Murali Srinivas - சினிமா உலகத்துல கசமூஸா இருக்குனு தெரியும் - ஆனா இந்த ரேஞ்சுல இருக்கும்னு ரொம்ப தெளிவா சொன்னதுக்க நன்றி!

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