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11th February 2005, 09:28 AM
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Are Tamil and Malayalam are separated Sisters??
after moving from singapore to chennai, what I have noticed is I could speak in Malayalam still able to converse with a tamilian. Most of the words are same - esp. Market things!
Are they same? What is the justification for the separatedness!
Ganika Nair
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11th February 2005 09:28 AM
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11th February 2005, 11:29 AM
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Dear Mr Nair,
We understand from various sources that during the first century A.D. the Malayalam Language was not in existance in the present Kerala region, but it was only the Tamil Language.
The region was then called the "Chera Nadu".
We have also come to know from these sources, that the first & second century kings of Kerala were Tamil speaking, which continued to be the language of the region untill the early 10th century.
It was from the 10th century onwards the new language called Malayalam gradually came into existance.
<u>All these need further study & research</u>.
At least to know a little on the extent to which the Tamil Language was known in Kerala during the 10th century, read my posting in this Hub titled,
<u>"Medieval Chola Empire and it's relations with Kerala"</u>
I will very soon post in this Hub an article titled,
<u>"A Study on the Royal Dynasties of Kerala in the First and the Second Centuries A.D."</u> which will throw more light in this connection.
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11th February 2005, 04:15 PM
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Malayalam said to be the result of Sankrit and Arabic influence on Tamil.
Our Malayalam being so young to Tamil you could call malayalam daughter of Tamil.
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11th February 2005, 07:46 PM
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[quote="virarajendra"]Dear Mr Nair,
Why Nair Sir?I saw siome one else there!
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13th February 2005, 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by
Sandeep
Malayalam said to be the result of Sankrit and Arabic influence on Tamil.
Our Malayalam being so young to Tamil you could call malayalam daughter of Tamil.
so true!!!
I also have a friend who's from chennai and when ever we don't want any1 else understanding us, we talk in a mixture of tamil and malayalam and we still get the point across!!
Don't confuse bad management with destiny....
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13th February 2005, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by
destiny's_song2324
I also have a friend who's from chennai and when ever we don't want any1 else understanding us, we talk in a mixture of tamil and malayalam and we still get the point across!!
Yeah, that's what my Malayalee cousins and I used to do when I in the process of becoming reasonably fluent in Malayalam. Of course, that produced the occasional burst of hilarity, like when one of them said: "Un samsaram romba mosam".
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15th February 2005, 12:57 PM
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Hi there everyone....
Can someone tell me what is the meaning of "tendi" and "pulle" in Malayalam.... I hear this actor Jayaram always uses these words in his speech..
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15th February 2005, 02:28 PM
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RK,
There was a whole topic about "Thendi". You seem to have missed that.
Thendi means Loafer. "Pulle" means Grass. Used to point out the insignificance of the other person.
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17th February 2005, 06:00 AM
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Hi Sandeep,
Thanks for your info... I didn't know there was a discussion on thendi.. Anyway thanks again for your enlighten, for I thought that tendi & pulle are vulgar words!
"Vallare nanni"
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13th June 2005, 10:31 PM
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There is an article by Sheldon Pollock in 1995 which poses this question of bifurcation of Malayalam from Tamil and of Telugu from Kannada a few centuries earlier (see e.g. page 130 of the artcle):
http://dsal.uchicago.edu/books/socia...269-71_132.gif
But as far as I can see there are more questions than answers in this artcle and I do not know of any later research. Regards,
swarup
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