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20th April 2014, 08:13 AM
#1131
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
Originally Posted by
crimson king
In his peak years, Fed himself used to orchestrate the crowd after his tweeners fell in, as if he was 100% sure they would be WINNERS. Djoko was just extracting subtle vengeance at US Open and that obviously found its mark and didn't go down well with Fed.
So you want to equate a tweener with that extravagant forehand crosscourt stretching far to his right?....
Never did I say that Roger was not butthurt. He was however, all that he said was so true... An absolute peak Novak had to come up with such a risky shot to win against an after shelf Roger.... Novak pulled up that shot mainly because he was up against all odds, with the whole NY crowd against him. That surely irked him...
Anyway Novak is my 2nd favorite after Roger. Hope he recovers soon to win RG!! We need Novak to certainly stop Rafa!!
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20th April 2014 08:13 AM
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20th April 2014, 09:48 AM
#1132
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
Wish #1: We want our GOAT (Roger Federer) to win a few more masters and/or grand slam titles, so that we can continue to sing that he is the GOAT! We don't care whether the matches are fixed and/or his opponents are injured, as long as our GOAT wins.
Wish #2: If our GOAT does not win, we want ABB (Anyone But Bull) to win. A lot of people think that the Bull (Rafa Nadal) is justifiably the real GOAT, but we have to make sure that we have enough statistics to twist and misquote to prove our point! Of course "We need Novak to certainly stop Rafa!!"
Meaningful head-to head statistics:
Federer 17; Djokovic: 16
Federer: 10; Murray: 11 (very close!)
Federer: 14; Ferrer: 0
Federer: 13; Wawrinka: 1
Federer: 12; Berdych: 6
Meaningless head-to-head statistics:
Federer: 10; Nadal: 23
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20th April 2014, 04:34 PM
#1133
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
Originally Posted by
raagadevan
Wish #1: We want our GOAT (Roger Federer) to win a few more masters and/or grand slam titles, so that we can continue to sing that he is the GOAT! We don't care whether the matches are fixed and/or his opponents are injured, as long as our GOAT wins.
Wish #2: If our GOAT does not win, we want ABB (Anyone But Bull) to win. A lot of people think that the Bull (Rafa Nadal) is justifiably the real GOAT, but we have to make sure that we have enough statistics to twist and misquote to prove our point! Of course "We need Novak to certainly stop Rafa!!"
Meaningful head-to head statistics:
Federer 17; Djokovic: 16
Federer: 10; Murray: 11 (very close!)
Federer: 14; Ferrer: 0
Federer: 13; Wawrinka: 1
Federer: 12; Berdych: 6
Meaningless head-to-head statistics:
Federer: 10; Nadal: 23
peRFect!!
Thanks for putting it together...
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20th April 2014, 06:21 PM
#1134
Junior Member
Senior Hubber
Originally Posted by
omega
So you want to equate a tweener with that extravagant forehand crosscourt stretching far to his right?....
Actually no, because that forehand was far less flukey. It was in the slot and the only possibly risky thing about the shot was the power with which Djoko sought to hit it (which might have dragged it wide on another day). You can watch it again if you like. Djoko was well balanced and was obviously seeing the ball well when he hit it. I have seen Sampras hit a similar stretch cross court forehand and standing on his toes to boot and still hit a return winner...at Wimbledon when it used to be faster, against Andre Agassi. That is high percentage but to deride it as a fluke is just sour grapes. To pretend it was not the way people used to play tennis is just ageism.
Look, I am a huge Federer fan but in this case, it was simply his reluctance to accept Djoko as the new champion. I am not able to see at all how on earth Fed was justified in talking down his opponent like that and trying to write it off as lucky. It wasn't any luckier than any number of trick shots he used to pull off in his peak to win important points. It's not going to make me like him less for that because Fed is actually pretty cool compared to any number of 90s players who seemed to think they had some obligation to be nasty to their opponents. But I certainly don't find an iota of truth in what he said. Djoko following later in the press conference was correct to say that at the highest level, you have to take your chances because there are bound to be very few. That is the way tennis has been played for years and years and there's nothing new about it except Kaiser Fed was at the wrong end of it and didn't enjoy it.
Last edited by crimson king; 20th April 2014 at 06:29 PM.
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20th April 2014, 08:58 PM
#1135
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
Wawrinka wins 4-6, 7-6(5), 6-2!
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20th April 2014, 09:10 PM
#1136
Junior Member
Senior Hubber
Fed had the match on his racquet. Wawrinka hadn't really turned up for the first half of the match. Fed should have killed it before the tiebreak itself. That was a lifeline for Wawrinka and he grabbed it and got back to the fluent rhythm he showed yesterday.
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20th April 2014, 09:42 PM
#1137
Senior Member
Diamond Hubber
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20th April 2014, 10:43 PM
#1138
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
A First For Stan: How The Monte-Carlo Final Was Won
-By Josh Meiseles; ATP News, April 20, 2014
http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Ten...w-Was-Won.aspx
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21st April 2014, 01:17 AM
#1139
Senior Member
Seasoned Hubber
Stan Wawrika.... ...Well done mate....
“You never fail until you stop trying.”
― Albert Einstein
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21st April 2014, 02:31 AM
#1140
Senior Member
Diamond Hubber
Wawrinka
சொல்லிச் சொல்லி ஆறாது சொன்னா துயர் தீராது...
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