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    Quote Originally Posted by omega View Post
    Fed's BH slice is a great shot in any surface other than clay off-course where it doesn't skid for it be effective.
    He mostly mixes it up with a combination of slices & drives at varying lengths/ angles finally opening up the court for the winner/drawing the error.
    These days mostly he just ball bashes ending up feeding quite a few sitting ducks.
    Overall I am still impressed with his level of play @ 33 in clay especially even if he loses to Monfills today.
    Of course his slice is a great shot but it's still a slice and it's tough to hit winners off a slice unless he converts it into a drop. So opponents know they are in the rally as long as they are targeting Fed's BH and he is in a mood to go for the slice. Even on hard courts, the increased friction on the surface in the last few years can make the slice sit up a bit. It works best on grass. Yes, that apart, no doubt this has been a pretty good clay court season for him, reaching the QFs again after last year's debacle and the 3rd round exit at this year's AO.

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    Federer's game at the moment is so ill suited to clay. He becomes an easy target running the risk of getting passed every time he wishes to come towards the net and become aggressive. And his baseline game is too meek to compensate for the ineffectiveness of his aggressive play. And Federer at a lot of times just pushes to get the opponent to make the mistake. Did that against Monfils yesterday. Just that Monfils didn't show up for the last two sets. Apart from his serve, it is the variety that he brings into play that's helping him win matches. Probably not against the likes of Novak but definitely against the lesser players
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    Quote Originally Posted by crimson king View Post
    Of course his slice is a great shot but it's still a slice and it's tough to hit winners off a slice unless he converts it into a drop. So opponents know they are in the rally as long as they are targeting Fed's BH and he is in a mood to go for the slice. Even on hard courts, the increased friction on the surface in the last few years can make the slice sit up a bit. It works best on grass. Yes, that apart, no doubt this has been a pretty good clay court season for him, reaching the QFs again after last year's debacle and the 3rd round exit at this year's AO.
    A thing that I have noticed for the past few seasons is Federer's reluctance to employ the drop shot. He's doing it so sparingly that it looks like it's not a part of his game plan anymore. He employed the shot time and time again to great use in the 09 clay season. That shot won him the trophy that year.
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    Man, Wawrinka was brutal. Fed actually bottled up his BH very well and by his recent standards played a relatively tight match. But Wawrinka came up with a forehand clinic yesterday, served really well too even if he could have put more first serves in. All the pre tournament talk centred on Djoko, Murray and, as the defending champ and clay court God, Nadal. But Wawrinka could well spring a surprise and spoil their party...if that is he can get past Tsonga who also looks rejuvenated.

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    Stan Wawrinka beats Novak Djokovic to win the French Open… Congratulations!

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    One of the greatest backhand performances in a grandslam final I've seen in a very long time. Such precision and power. Devastating, demoralizing and simply superb. Richly deserves the french crown.


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    Kudos to Stanimal on winning his second major. A former junior French Open champion (2003) ultimately comes live on his favorite surface. When he is on he can just crush anyone. Glad that he didn't end up as a lone slam winner.

    One has to feel sorry for Nole. He has been trying desperately hard to win the FO ever since his breakaway year 2011.
    Both his best years 2011 & 2015 he had been stopped by a Swiss in his attempt to win FO. But he will get his chances. Fed was able to win his FO in his 4th Final. May be Novak can win in his next attempt (if he can make it to finals),

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    ^^^ Unfortunately for Nole, the field is wide open now whereas in 2009 it was either Fed or Rafa and then daylight. The problem is Nole wants it bad and he is going to take these knocks very badly by the looks of it. Who's to say that if Friday's play wasn't interrupted would Nole still have beaten Murray.

    Anyhow, no such ifs and buts in Wawrinka's case. Just sheer brilliance. For a set, he allowed Djoko's slow, heavy balls to bog him down but thereafter he began to make the play and forced the issue. Once he did that, Djoko simply couldn't contain him. I was saying before the match that Wawrinka's problem is he stands far back behind the baseline and takes the ball when it has lost all his pace. Well, he even punished Djoko for short balls by stepping in and hitting on the rise for good measure. He came much fewer times to the net than Djoko but had more success on his approaches. Lastly, an ever reliable serve like his more illustrious compatriot. Where Djoko had to turn to the 2nd serve too often by the 3rd and 4th sets, Wawrinka was still producing a devastating 1st serve.

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    2015 ஃப்ரெஞ்ச் கோப்பைத் தொடரில் ஜொகொவிற்கு மிகவும் சவாலாக இருந்த ஆட்டங்கள் அரையிறுதியும், இறுதியும்தான். முரேவுடனான அரையிறுதியில் வெற்றி என்பது நான்கு செட்கள் வரை பறிக்கமுடியாத கனியாக ஜொகொவிற்கு இருந்தாலும், ஐந்தாவது செட்டில் கவனம் தவறிய முரேவை 6-1 என்ற பலத்த வித்தியாசத்தில் பதம் பார்த்துவிட்டார் ஜொகொ. ஃப்ரெஞ்ச் கோப்பையின் ராஜா என கருதப்பட்ட நடால் கூட அந்த அளவுக்கு ஒரு சவாலை தந்துவிடவில்லை. நடாலால் ஒரு செட் கூட கைப்பற்ற முடியாதது தற்போதைய காலகட்டத்தில் அவரது திறமின்மையை காட்டுகிறது.

    அதுபோல வாவ்ரிங்காவிற்கு இந்தத் தொடரில் ஒரளவுக்கு சவாலைத் தந்த ஆட்டங்கள் அரையிறுதி, இறுதியும் தான். அரையிறுதியில் சாங்கா இரு செட்டுகளில் டைபிரேக்கர் வரை கொண்டு சென்றது குறிப்பிடத் தக்கது. தனிப்பட்ட முறையில் இறுதி ஆட்டத்தைவிட, வாவ்ரிங்கா-சாங்கா அரையிறுதி ஆட்டம் மிகவும் பிடித்திருந்தது.

    மொத்தத்தில் 2015 ஃப்ரெஞ்ச் கோப்பைத் தொடர் மறக்கமுடியாத ஆட்டங்களை தந்தது என்பேன். இறுதிவரை வந்த ஜொகொ, வாவ்ரிங்கா இருவரிடமும் நடால் ஃபெடரர் காலிறுதியில் ஒரு செட் கூட ஜெயிக்கமுடியாமல் போனது கவனிக்க வேண்டிய விஷயம். அதிலும் நடாலின் தோல்வி மிகப்பெரிய ஒன்று. ஃபெடரர் கூட ஒரளவிற்கு நன்றாகவே ஈடுகொடுத்தார் வாவ்ரிங்காவிற்கு.

    அடுத்தடுத்த வருடங்களில் முரே, நிஷிகோரி இருவருமே அரையிறுதி, இறுதிவரை வர வாய்ப்பிருக்கிறது. சாங்காவுடனான நிஷிகொரியின் ஆட்டம் சிறப்பாக இருந்தது. சென்ற ஆண்டு நேர் செட்டுகளில் நடாலிடம் மோசமான தோல்வியை தழுவிய முரேவிற்கு இந்த ஆண்டு குறிப்பிடத்தக்க முன்னேற்றம்.

    வாவ்ரிங்காவிடம் பிடித்த விஷயம்.. மிகவும் லாவகமாக, சுலபமாக ஜொகொவிக்கின் ஒவ்வொரு சர்வ் பந்தினையும் மனிதனில்லா இடத்திற்கு (no man’s land) அனுப்புவது. அடுத்ததாக வின்னர்ஸ். அரையிறுதியிலும் சரி, இறுதியிலும் சரி.. அறுபது முறை வின்னர்ஸ். ஒரு-கை பின்னாட்டத்தில் மிகவேகமான , குறிப்பிடத்தக்க முகவரியை டென்னிஸ் உலகிற்கு வழங்கி கொண்டிருக்கிறார். களத்தின் எதிரெதிர் முனைகளுக்கு குறுக்காகவும், இணையாகவும் வெற்றிகளை தரவல்ல ஒரு-கை பின்னாட்டம் அவருடையது.

    மூன்றாவது முறையாக இறுதி ஆட்டம் வரை வந்த ஜொகொவிற்கு வெற்றிக்கனி இன்னும் கைவராதது வருத்தம்தான். இம்முறை ஒன்பது வருட களிமண் தரை சாம்பியனான நடாலை வென்று வெற்றிகொண்டு பெரியதொரு முற்றுப்புள்ளி வைத்தது சாதனை. நடாலின் தற்போதைய ஆட்டத் திறமின்மையை கருதினால் நிஷிகோரி, சாங்கா, முரே, வாவ்ரிங்கா போன்றவர்களிடமும் எதிர்த்து விளையாடிருந்தால் கூட தோற்றிருக்கக் கூடும்.

    தொடர்ந்து ஃபெடரர் காலிறுதி, அரையிறுதி வரை வருவதே மிகப்பெரிய சாதனை. ஆண்கள் டென்னிசில் கடந்த சில பல வருடங்களாக நிறைய மனிதர்கள் கொடுக்கும் கடும் சவால்களை தாக்குபிடித்து ஃபெடரர் கோலோச்சி வருவது அவரது தேர்ந்த ஆட்டத் திறனையும், விடாமுயற்சியினையும், பலமான அஸ்திவாரத்தினையும் காட்டுகிறது.

    ஒருவரை பற்றி நினைத்தாலே பரிதாபமே மேலோங்குகிறது. ஃபெர்ரர். 90களின் இறுதியில், 2000களின் ஆரம்பங்களில் ஒருவேளை இவர் விளையாடியிருந்தால் ஒருசில கோப்பைகளை வென்றிருக்கக் கூடும். குறைந்த பட்சம் காலிறுதி, அரையிறுதிக்கு வந்துவிடுகிறார். ஒரே ஒருமுறை மட்டுமே இறுதிவரை சென்றிருக்கிறார். 2013 ஃபிரஞ்ச் ஓபன் இறுதியில் தன் சொந்த நாட்டுக்காரரான நடாலிடம் தோல்வி கண்டார். பாவம்.
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    Who is the real GOAT (Greatest Of All Times) tennis player? The Roland Garros Tournament of 2015 has made the answer to this question murkier than before!

    First of all, Stan Wawrinka defeated #2 ranked Roger Federer and #1 ranked Novak Djokovitch to win his second Grand Slam title. He proved that a player does not have to be “superhuman” to win a Grand Slam championship at or after age 30 years. Stan also showed that a good player could defeat the highest ranked and the best ever players to win a grand slam title; not below-par players like some others have done before.

    Even with what many called a “cake walk” draw, Roger Federer could not go beyond the quarterfinal round. Stan made “goat”-curry out of Roger! By the way, many folks consider Roger to be the “GOAT”! Even though Roger lost his quarterfinal match, he maintained his #2 ATP ranking for the week!

    The next contender for the “GOAT” title Rafa Nadal showed that he is in what appears to be an irreversible decline in playing skills and mental toughness. He also lost in the quarterfinal like Roger, but his ATP ranking for the week slid down to #10 from #7!

    Novak, who is an up and coming contender for the “GOAT” title, failed again in his attempt to win a Career Grand Slam in tennis.

    Andy Murray demonstrated that his playing skills on clay have improved dramatically.

    Under these circumstances, will the real GOAT in tennis please stand up?!

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