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    Quote Originally Posted by aanaa
    but Chiththrai Tamil New year and Sinhala New year always falls on the same same day

    but
    Telugu
    Malayalam
    Kannada
    new year fall on different dates

    reason ?
    I have already described hereabove... in the previous pages, analytically...

    ...in the Global perspective... comparing other Calendars...

    ..including our International Calendar...

    ..which we are adopting for our day to affairs as well as the Government and Professional functions.

    I have also justified as to how Tamilian Calendar System of reckoning the New Year from the time of entry of Sun into Mesha-Raasi on or about every April-14...

    ..well synchronises SCIENTIFICALLY with Astronomy... a common subject for all..

    ..irrespective of Religious and National aspects.

    Consequently Tamilian Calendar alone is able to be total and wholly complete by every month...

    ...since exclusively linked with the movement of Sun.. so called SOORYA- MAANA... but coupled with Lunar aspects too.

    Rather Tamil Calendar Starting from Chiththirai alone has been proved stable and uniform for every year... since it is mainly based on Sun.

    Whereas others whose Calendars are based on CHANDRA MAANA... they also are totally correct...

    ..and the Horoscopes based on such Panchangams also have been found correct with no problems.

    But comparatively we get nil problems in Horoscopic or any such Sacred affairs by Tamil Calendar from Chiththirai...

    ..while others get problems in cumbersome calculations in Chandra-maana, based on Moon...

    ..especially in the aspects of Adhika Maasa... making the year of 13 months occasionally.

    Both these systems have their own values and merits in different ways...

    ..but on the whole Tamilian Calendar... coinciding with Malayalam, Bengali and Oriya customs is acclaimed to be the most convenient and practical with least problems in the long run.

    While the months calculations are same and similar in cases of such Soorya Maana followers...as above..

    ..Only in case of Malayalam Calendar Chiththirai is not their New year month...

    ...although they Celebrate the Tamil New year day as CHITHTHIRAI VISHU.

    But Bengali and Oriya New Year days are same as...

    ...Tamil New Year day... on the first date of Chiththirai month.
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    thanks Suthaama for the info/

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    . Wish you All.. Happy TAMIL NEW YEAR 2008.!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Shoba
    Dear Sir,

    I have read with much interest many of your commentries and views on religion, philosophy etc.,

    I have searched in vain to find out when Tamil New Year 2008 actually dawns. Is it in the early hours of the 13th of April or is it the wee hours of April 14th?

    I'm Malayaali and observe Vishu. My inlaws are Tamil Brahmins and the panjaangam says 13th for Chithira varusha pirappu.

    Any thoughts...?

    Thank you and with respect,
    Shoba
    Dear Shoba,

    Thank you very much for the amount of affection and regard towards me.

    It is true... that we become happy by making others happy..

    So I feel pleasure to deliver something useful to others.

    Regarding your Question on Tamil New Years day this year...

    ..It falls on SUNDAY the 13th date of April 2008.. unusually earlier.

    With Best Wishes,
    Sudhaama
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    No puththandu in 2009?

    Dear Friends,

    I am from originally from Bangalore living in Chennai from last 2 years. I used to wish my Tamil friends, happy pongal on Jan 14 and Puththanadu vazhthugaL on April 14.

    1. Now that Govt has canceled april 14 , we should not say puththaNdu vazthugal on april 14?

    2. In fact should we say pongal-o pongal, and puththaNdu vazrthugal on the same day, one after the other?

    3. Is this a permanent arrangement in calendar , will it affect Tamil panchangams? Have they updated the panchangams?

    4. In fact is this only for DMK Govt duration?

    5. what will happen if AnnaDMK comes to power in TN next?
    Will they reinstate April 14 just to get back at the rival DMK?

    Is this a Political gimmick?

    How do Tamil priests and Vedic scholars feel about this change?

    Please some enlightened souls let me know


    Regards

    Nagesh
    Chennai

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    .Tamilians NOT SWAYED by POLITICAL INTERFERENCES.!

    Politicians NOT QUALIFIED to FIND FAULT with Astronomers.!

    Great Tamilian ASTRONOMERS... have ALREADY prescribed...

    ...CONVINCINGLY.!.. as the BEST FOR THE PEOPLE.!...

    ..Not only for Tamilians.... but also for the whole MANKIND.!


    ..as Chiththirai-1 (April-14) only... APT NEW YEAR-DAY.



    ...for all Considerations... especially for Astrology.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by csn61
    Dear Friends,
    ............
    1. Now that Govt has canceled april 14 , we should not say puththaNdu vazthugal on april 14?

    2. In fact should we say pongal-o pongal, and puththaNdu vazrthugal on the same day, one after the other?

    3. Is this a permanent arrangement in calendar , will it affect Tamil panchangams? Have they updated the panchangams?

    4. In fact is this only for DMK Govt duration?

    5. what will happen if AnnaDMK comes to power in TN next?
    Will they reinstate April 14 just to get back at the rival DMK?

    Is this a Political gimmick?

    How do Tamil priests and Vedic scholars feel about this change?

    Please some enlightened souls let me know

    Quote Originally Posted by Sudhaama
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    I have already posted here in detail... under several postings..

    ...analysing the rich intricacies and the unparallelly appreciable basis for our Great Tamil Ancestors'..

    ... decision to stipulate the Tamil New Year from the First date of entry of the planet Sun into Mesha Rasi..

    .i.e. on or about April-14 every year.

    Astronomically that is the best basis for relevant New year Poojas, Astrological calculations as well as other considerations pertaining to New Year.

    In brief...I reiterate that Pongal day of Makara-sankaranthi is holy in one way... whille the Chiththirai first date is holy in another way.

    Rather Chiththirai month is the commencement of Sun as UCHCHA (Exalted) becoming the most powerful...

    ..when compared to other months of the year.

    Sun being the Planet of Power, Justice and Success... His most powerful month has been taken as the month of commencement of New Year .

    Whereas the Pongal day is a day of Gratitude to Sun and Nature as also all others concerned including the Animals and Birds....

    .. apart from the Mankind of the Society at large.

    Such a Pongal concept has no relevance nor purpose linked with the sense and basis for New Year.

    The present system of Chithrai as the commencement to ensure the whole year to be successful..

    ...by means of honouring our ruling Planet Sun during his Crown status ..

    ...by exaltation in the month of Chiththirai... is the best system to be continued.

    For Tamilians the Planet Sun is the MOST IMPORTANT for all considerations
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    Sudhamaji,

    Your posts about how Tamil Calender is accurate is logical and winning over and ofcourse informative

    why politicians are poking their nose everywhere???
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    No government has the right to interfere in the practice of religion, as long as it does not deny the rights of others.

    As far as Malaysia is concerned, Pongal is Pongal and Puththaandu will always be in April. All media (TV, Radio, Newspapers) celebrate Pongal as a thanksgiving day.

    All this nonsense of withdrawing the original new year date, will be forgotten through the passage of time.

    Wishing everyone a Happy Pongal!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOV
    No government has the right to interfere in the practice of religion, as long as it does not deny the rights of others.

    As far as Malaysia is concerned, Pongal is Pongal and Puththaandu will always be in April. All media (TV, Radio, Newspapers) celebrate Pongal as a thanksgiving day.

    All this nonsense of withdrawing the original new year date, will be forgotten through the passage of time.

    Wishing everyone a Happy Pongal!
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    http://newstodaynet .com/newsindex. php?id=24468% 20&%20section= 6

    Tamil New Year back to Chithirai

    *NT Bureau | Tue, 23 Aug, 2011,01:50 PM*
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    In a significant move, the Tamilnadu Assembly today passed a Bill shifting
    back the Tamil New Year to the original month of Chithirai (mid-April),
    laying to rest the previous DMK government's out of the blue declaration of
    changing the age-old practice to mid-January.

    The Bill tabled in the House by Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowments
    Minister S P Shanmuganathan said that members of the public, archealogical
    experts, pundits, astronomy exponents and others have expressed the opinion
    that the DMK goverment's 2008 decision to shift the Tamil New Year was
    against the practice of centuries.

    'They requested the government to revert the Tamil New Year to the month of
    Chithirai,' the Bill said and added that there are a lot of practical
    difficulties among the people to celebrate Pongal as the Tamil New year Day.

    'Hence it has been decided to declare once again the first day of Chithirai
    as the Tamil New Year day,' the Bill said.

    When the Bill was tabled, CPI(M) MLA A Soundararajan and CPI legislator
    Guasekaran said that they opposed the Bill and requested the Speaker to send
    it to the Standing Committee.

    Later, the Bill was taken up for discussion through a resolution brought by
    Finance Minister and Leader of the House O Panneerselvam and was passed as
    Law.

    The Tamilnadu government in 2008 decided to declare the first day of the
    Tamil month Thai as the Tamil New Year Day.

    According to the previous regime, the decision was taken in view of the
    'consensus' amongst Tamil scholars that the first of Thai is the first day
    of the Tamil year.

    'Till now, the people celebrated 14 April (the first of Chithirai, an
    auspicious month for conducting marriages) as Tamil New Year Day.

    Now those who celebrate Pongal as the festival of Tamils can celebrate it as
    Tamil New Year Day also with redoubled joy', the erstwhile government said.

    Former Chief Minister M Karunanidhi, while inaugurating the Chennai
    Sangamam, a 'controversial' cultural extravaganza, had announced that Thai 1
    would henceforth be celebrated as Tamil New Year Day along with Pongal, the
    festival of harvest.
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    One more good thing done by ADMK Govt..
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