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20th August 2012, 11:56 PM
#11
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Infact Vaughan's team that beat SA over a 5 test series and won the Ashes againast a TRUE ATG team in 2005 are better than this #1 team.
The Indian batsmen of 2000s were better than this batting unit although our bowling was never great - still we won many against Aus with that bowling.
This England team has fallen to the first reasonably good team that they have faced. Not to forget losing to Pak and SL as well.
Dont kid yourself that you were true #1 for more than a year.
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20th August 2012 11:56 PM
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21st August 2012, 12:00 AM
#12
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Plum, simple: England were ordinary last summer too but managed to win 'ndreengaLA?
Sollunga, then we have a fundamental disagreement in appreciating the sport itself.
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21st August 2012, 12:00 AM
#13
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There are 15 ashes tests in the next 3 years it seems.
Feeyaar - majaa maadi. You can praise your fellers to the sky when they win these matches. I'll actually support your lot when Ponting comes calling next year. pAkkalAm
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21st August 2012, 12:02 AM
#14
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Yeah - we didnt even have Zaheer Khan. Why hype those performances? And Sachin etc fell to the constant probing line - only Rahul with his patiene survived. It is not as if your lot bowled graet wow moments
Why are you rewriting history
SA this year were better than your lot last year
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21st August 2012, 12:02 AM
#15
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And when I talk about England team - I dont believe he world started with Flower/Straus. Start from usainbhai. So vaaganam results are also accepted. Their highs were memorable too. Just that this is a bit of a fairy tale, the way they rode to the top. Anyway it's all gone now.
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21st August 2012, 12:06 AM
#16
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Broad in the zone is a joy to watch
Anderson with the new ball is to me just as exciting as Steyn
I could see none of that in this tour. They deserved to be beaten.
I will agree to disagree on Philander. He was far more Impressive last Nov in Austalia. So much variation. This one was like Ashish Nehra's sixfor in the 03 WC.
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21st August 2012, 12:10 AM
#17
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More fundamentally, tell me why your team dserved to be #1 for mor than the one year tht thy managed as you claim?
If you are talking about how well they played in the lead up, then what about India and South Africa? What about England playing crap after the India series last year
By that count,t hey werent #1 in Pak and Lanka
You are conveninetly inteprreting to your convenience. Either letter or spirit.
Not like - in 2010 England were #1 in spirit but not letter, in 2011 they were in both, in 2012 they were #1 because they were #1 in letter although not in spirit.
Ipdi ellaa,m series by series pArthA you wont have a proper #1 team
England were #1 for 1 year. I grant they deserved it on the back of Ashes 2010 and India 2011. That is all.
They arent even the best England team in this century
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21st August 2012, 12:11 AM
#18
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P_R India were coming off a worldcup high/no.1 ranking in tests/were plauged by injuries/trinities @ their last legs and were expectedly caught offguard..Eng were whitewashed by Paks..don't remember India not winning a single test in any of their overseas series whilst they were @ top.
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21st August 2012, 12:11 AM
#19
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Broad joy to watch? You are Chris Broad and I claim my 10 dollars
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21st August 2012, 12:11 AM
#20
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Heck Broad bowled well in that disaster tour in abidhabi. Teasing lines, breaking partnerships..
Here he was doing nothing. Everyone had so much time to play him
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