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Topic started by Manisekaran (@ 161.142.2.11) on Fri Jun 14 01:54:38 EDT 2002.
This is an effort, in a modest way, to trace the great contributions of KVM to the Tamil Film Music. As Tamil Film songs originate from the Tamil films, I am aslo taking the liberty of discussing the background of the films where KVM had comsposed- with the intention of adding spice. I believe this article would serve as a nostalgic tonic to the fans of old songs.
Mani Sir,
Thanks...a lot for the splendid effort.
As I told in the earliest part of this thread that my father is a fan of KVM and I am sure that if I give a copy of this entire, superb thread to him. He will be very happy. I thank you once again for this splendid effort. Ofcourse, special thanks for those knowledgeable posters of this thread who helped in your effort.
Hats off to all of you.
I don't know how you have planned to edit this splendid series as an article. One suggestion from me is that make the article as prose oriented and(hence) lyrics of various songs which are given in this thread could be given as appendix to the article and html link to those songs from the appropriate section of the prose could be made.
Hope this helps you.
Also, I thank you for accepting the suggestion regarding ThiruviLayaadal. I felt sad when I gave that suggestion. Its because, we did not have MKT at that time. Had he been alive(?) then, I guess surely KVM and APN would have included him also in that film and Wow! what a splendid album it would have been a stream of one of the all time greatest singers of TFM sung in a single film.
Mani Sir,
I am very sorry that we have reached the end of the spellbinding, nostalgic ‘Journey with KVM’, with you as the Guide. Kudos to you for this painstaking and excellent effort. It was really generous of you to spare so much time amidst your busy schedule, and undertake this. Salutations!
Can I make some additions? Here are some of my favourite songs from the 70s and 80s –Please consider adding them to the article: Many of these songs are KVM’s collaborations with the newer crop of singers- KJY, SPB, JC, MV, VJ and even SPS. Of course, he gave many songs to SJ too in this period:
1.Pudhiya Vaazhkkai:-1971
Film starred Jaishankar and Jayabharathi. KVM must have been clairvoyant- he knew that SPB and SJ would emerge soon as the top ranking playback artistes in tfm- so he made this a wholly SPB-SJ album. All the songs were enchanting:
1.Kaalam ennodu varum pothu, kadavul varunkindraan- SJ
2.Pesu maname pesu, pethai maname pesu,
naalu vagai gunamum niraindhe nadai podu-SPB
3.Paada therindhavar paadungal, aada therindhavar aadungal,
Ithu thanga papa pirantha naal- SJ
2.Irulum Oliyum-1971
This film had Vanisri in a dual role, along with AVM Rajan and Muthuraman. The same Vanisri would again figure in ‘Vani Rani’ in a dual role 3 years later in 1974, and this film too had music by KVM! Like Vani Rani, Irulum Oliyum also had one meek and subdued Vanisri and one aggressive Vanisri. The songs were wonderful:
1.Thirumagal thedi vandhaal, engal pudhu mania kudi pugundhaal,
Kulanmagal kungumathil, devi koyil kondaada vandhaal- PS
2.Thirumagal thedi vandhaal, endhan idhayathil kudi pugunthaal
Kulamgal kolathile, devi marumagalaaga vandhaal- SPB & B Vasantha
3.Amma! Vaanile mannile- PS- (a lovely ode to Mother Nature, and a favourite of Ilangai Vaanoli’s morning ‘Sugaraagam’)
4.Pattikkattu Ponniah- 1973
I am mentioning this film only because it was a MGR film, and more important, it was the last MGR film in which Jayalalitha acted. MGR had a dual role, and Rajasri was the other heroine. The songs were pedestrian, though.
1.Oru varusham-TMS,PS
2.Dee dee dee sathukkudi- LRE
3.Pattuppola Pennai- PS
4.Ye Machaan-TMS,PS
5.Iravugalai paarthathundu, uravugalai paarthathillai- SPB,SJ
5.Mazhai Megam – 1977
I have no clue as to the actors, but there were two great songs:
1.Oru kodi sugham vandhadhu, adhu ovvondrum nee thandhadhu- ALR,SJ
2.Aagaya Gangai indru mannil vandhadhu- SPB,PS
It is noteworthy that KVM gave a lovely duet to AL Raghavan even in 1977, when ALR’ s career was all but over.
6.Thaaliya Salangaiya-1977
A film with a superb score by KVM. It starred Muthuraman and Vanisri. Going by the dramatic title, I suspect that it was a KSG venture.
1.Vanji ithu vanji- KJY
2.Maduraikku sendraal megangale- PS (lovely song)
3.Mangala Kannagi Kunguma Janaki nalangal thulanga vilanga aniyumum thaaliya
Nadaga kaviya kaviri Madhavi mayangi kulingi arangil aniyum salangaiya
Thaliya-- salangaiya-- VJ (a classic)
7.Kannil Theriyum Kathaigal-1980
The film is remembered because it has 5 Music Directors for 5 songs. It was produced by AL Raghavan and starred Sarat Babu, Sripriya and Vadivukkarasi. The songs which became popular were ‘Naan Unna ninaichen’-SPB-Jikki-VJ by S-G and ‘Naan oru ponnoviyam’-SPB-SJ-PS by Ilayaraja. AL Raghavan himself sang a stunner by GKV ‘Naan paartha Rathidevi engey’. TR Papa gave ‘ Onnu rendu moonu’ (SPS-BSS?).
KV Mahadevan’s song was ‘Vettaikkaran malaiyile’ by TMS.
8.Naan Naanethaan-1980
The film starred Rajesh and Vadivukkarasi, who were considered a hit pair after the runaway success of ‘Kanniparuvathile’-1979. KVM had given a set of excellent songs.
1.Vanavillennum varnajaalangal, Ravivarman kaigal varaindha kolangal- SPB & Chorus.
2.Kaaya kurinji malar-VJ
3.Eththanai avatharam-JC
4.Kanagamani silambanaindha kaliyamma-VJ
9.Kaathal Kiligal-1980
I believe the film was a remake of a Hindi film ‘Ghar’. It starred Sivakumar and Rathi.
1.Nadhikkarai orathu naanalgale en nayaki azhagai paarungale
Kaalayil pootha pushpangale engal kathalai vaazhthi paadungale- KJY & SPS
2.Sevvaaname seer kondu vaa, ven megame ther kondu vaa-KJY & SPS
3.Kaathal kiliye nee yen pesa marandhaai-SPB
10.Kuruvikkodu-1980
The film starred Sudhakar. Two songs stand out:
1.Vannathu poochi sirikkithu, pala vadivam kaatti izhukkuthu- SPB,PS
2.Ponni nadhiyorathiley- SPB
11.Manmatha Rathangal-1980
No info on the actors, but there’s a lovely duet by SPB-PS:
Mamnmatha rathangal oorvalam pogum maalai neram ithu
en mangala valayal sangama nilayil paadum ragam ithu
There is another duet ‘Inimayaanathu’- SPB-VJ.
12.Neruppile Pootha Malar-1981
Sivakumar was the hero. KVM gave Jayachandran some great songs here.
1.Engengum aval mugam, angellam en manam- JC (among JC’s best songs ever)
2.Iravinil paniyinil iruvarum vizhithirippom, oruvarin madiyinil oruvarai anaithiruppom
Nammakkul ini ena ragasiyamo, ulagainil idhu enna adhisayamo- JC-VJ
13.Andha Raathirikku Saatchi Illai- 1982
Kapil Dev and Sulakshana were the lead pair. KVM’s music was scintillating:
1.Ethirpaarthen ilankiliyai kaanaliye- SPB
2.Mani osaiyum Kai valai osaiyum, anandha ragam solla naan ketkiren
Unnai agayam bhoomi engum naan paarkiren- SPB-SJ
3.Sumai thangi enintru azhugintrathu-SPB-PS
14.Thoongatha Kannindru Ondru- 1983
I would rate this film as KVM’s best album in Tamil in the 80s. R Sundararajan was a ‘Midas’ touch director just then- with Mohan as the hero and Ilayaraja as the MD, he gave a string of hits. But he did experiment with other MDs too, and those films too had good songs- Saranalayam by MSV, for instance.
This film had Mohan and Ambika as the lead pair. It was a usual love story, with a tragic end.
KVM gave two dazzling duets:
1.Mazhai vizhum kodiyena, nadhi vizhum kadalena, maragadha mani udal silirkkudhu-
this was a fast paced, rain song by KJY and SJ. Watch out for the ‘thakka thakka thaj jam’ part- amazing!
2.Idhaya vaasal thirandha pothu, uaravu vandhadhu
Urangum pothu kanavu nooru paruvam thandhadhu- SPB-SJ
A slow, dreamy, melodious song
3.Nee azhaithathu pol – SPB
A tour de force song by the Thirai Isai Thilagam. It had a poignant situational value- Mohan having successfully gained a foothold in the film industry, comes by train to CBE to bring the good news to his wife, Ambika and take her back to Madras. At the same time, Ambika, unable to bear the separation, boards a train to Madras, unknown to Mohan. Their trains cross each other—
Mohan finds himself in a compartment full of musicians, and starts a mini cutcheri- meanwhile Ambika is raped in her compartment—
KVM came up with a masterpiece here, and with SPB’s magical voice, creates a wonderful song:
Nee azhaithathu pol oru gnyaabagam, athu aasai alaigalin oorvalam,
Nee sirithathu pol oru gynaabagam, athu sindhayil nee seitha sagasam
It is a classical song, with all the accompaniments, and the interludes have bits of heartrending violin music bringing out the irony of the situation. With all this, KVM manages to keep the chugging sound of the train as the rhythmic beat throughout the song. SPB gave his best- the swaram passages in the end must have been really challenging- he comes out in flying colours.
15.Simma Soppanam-1984
This is noteworthy, as it was perhaps the last film of Sivaji to have music by KVM. It also starred KR Vijaya, Saritha, Prabhu and Radha. Two songs are memorable:
1.Pudavai katti kondu poo ondru aaduthu- TMS-VJ
2.Oodha kaathum oosi mazhayum –MV,SJ
16.Mel Maruvathoor Aadhi Parasakthi- 1985
A socio-mythological, by ‘Om Sakthi’ Jagadeesan, starring KR Vijaya, Nalini, Rajesh, Saritha and Senthamarai. Good songs by KVM:
1.Manithargale O Manithargale- K Veeramani
2.Maari thirisooli aadhi parameswariye-VJ
3.Unnai nimbi uchiyile poo mudichen thaaye-PS
4.MelMaruvathooril valar maragathame-VJ
5.Om Sakthi Om Sakthi-Seergazhi Govindarajan
There were some other films by KVM which had some good songs:
1.Manikka padumaikku kaanikkai-yaana pin manadhai tharalamaa-Neethi Devan-1971-SPB &PS
2.Ammayanavan enakku- Muruganadimai- 1977-TMS & PS
3.Paalodu then kalandha- Gnana Kuzhandai-1979-TMS&VJ (All songs were good in this film)
4.Thirumaale-Deiva Thirumanangal-1981-VJ (MSV and GKV were the other MDs in this film)
5.Azhaithaal varuvaal kettaal tharuvaal-Mouna Yudham-1981-SPB & VJ
6.Endha iravu mudhal iravu- Chinnansirusugal -1982- SPB
7.Ranganathan thangachi, rendunkettan un katchi- Samayapurathaale Saatchi-1985-MV
8.Maligaiyaanalum malarvanamaanaalum-Asha- 1985-JC & VJ
9.Magarantham kathoothum aravintham un paadham-Mahasakthi Mariamma-1986- M Balamuralikrishna
10.Singara Velanukku Arupadai veedu- Murugane Thunai- 1990- Seergazhi Govindarajan
(Since Seergazhi passed away much before 1990, the song must have been recorded much earlier)
Mention also must be made of ‘Isaikku oru koyil’, which though was dubbed from Telugu (Sruthilayalu), had great songs that became very popular. Endrume nalla rasi-SPB,VJ,
Sri Saradamba namosthuthe-SJ, Azhaganavan Sri Balakrishnan-VJ, Thirunaalum varume Swami-JC,PS and Srigananaatham-Poornachander,VJ.
Mani Sir, thank you once again for this fitting tribute to the great KVM. Poi Vaa Isai Alaye!
Saravanan,
Thank you so much for having filled the gap. I had wanted the mid 1970s as the cut off period. But you have wound up the period beyond that.
Even among the eralier movies, I have left out some films-like Lavakusa, Rajambaal,Santhippu, Rajathi, Seetha, Dilli Maappillai, Harichandra etc.
Pattikkaattu Ponniah is said to be by MSV. That is the reason I left it out. Let me double check. Thalia Salangaiya is by Pugazhendhi, along with Kurudakshanai.
Thanks for taking so much trouble. Now I have so much editing to do. I need much time to do that.
I may have to revamp the entire article and list the movies according to the years of release. So they will no more appear under Devar FIlms, MGR Movies, Sivaji Movies and APN Movies etc.
Herculean task.
I will include any other inputs received.
Saravanan, you ought to be credited for contributing most, and pointing out wherever I erred.
Thank you so much.
Manisegaran
Irulum Oliyum:
There is one more sad solo for PS "Iraiva unakkoru keLvi enge nee maraindhaayO"....
Kuruvikkodu:
1. There is a song by PS + SP Shailaja
2. In "Vannathu poochi sirikkithu, pala vadivam kaatti izhukkuthu" song, SPB as well as PS sing a couple of lines in "aged/old" kizhvan kizhavi voice. PS was then criticized / pinned at, as she doesn't hv that kind of calibre. KVM disproved that and made PS sing with changing her voice as a kizhavi.
Manmadha radhangal:
Was acted by Vijay Babu and Devishree and a new comer heroine.
Mel Maruvathoor Aadhi Parasakthi:
The song by PS is for both KRV and Saritha. But one singer only. It runs to 7-8 mins and there was 2 parts of the song in the record.
Gnana Kuzhandai:
There were two excellent solos by PS.. both for child artist (Thiru Gnana sambandhar)
- Thodudaya seviyan
- Osai kodutha nayagiye (very good dance by V.Nirmala who acted as Goddess Parvathi)
Samayapurathaale Saatchi:
- Gnana kaNNai thirandhu vitten paar magane paar by PS (this was also for a child artist)
Mahasakthi Mariamman:
There was a superb song with support of veena, by TMS for Rajesh.
KRV, Jayachitra, Rajesh, and many acted in the movie.
Many of the movies of K. Vishwanath like "Siri siri muvva" (Sirikkum salangai), "Siri Vennila" (Raaga devadhia), etc were dubbed into Tamil. Muisc again by KV only. Almost all the songs from Raaga devadhai were with Flute and it was terrific. Especially the one duet by SPB + PS in Amruvarshini raaga.. a great number.
Mani sir: you did a great job and this thread can be titled as "Pokkisham for Tamil film music".
Subbu,
Thanks, but kindly accept that this is a collective work of all of us. Just look at your own postings. They too have helped in enriching this discussion. Let us all congratulate each other.
Thanks
manisegaran
Mr Manisegaran:
It would have been lovely to read your thoughts about KVM's Swathikiranam too. BTW was that his last movie?
Thanks.
Mani Sir, thank you for your kind words.
Reg. Pattikkattu Ponniah, I am sure it is by KVM.
Reg. Thaaliya Salangaiya, the record says 'Isai-KVM' and even in the radio, they used to credit the music to KVM.
Gurudakshinai, I agree with you. The record itself says- Isai- Pugazhendhi.
Mani Sir, can you give details of the songs of 'Ethiroli'? This was the only film of K Balachander to have music by KVM. Sadly,none of the songs seem to have become popular.
Saravanan,
Thanks for clarifying about Pattikkattu Ponniah.
That is a movie I was told not to watch. So was Ethiroli.
In Ethiroli there is a song
Kunguma Chimizhil Maathulai Muthukkal by TMS and PS. This is the only song worth mentioning. AS you rightly said this is the only film where Balachandar had used KVM. Also the only film where Balachandrar had directed Sivaji Ganesan. Balachander found it difficult to control Sivaji and so gave up using Sivaji anymore. When Sivaji passed away, Balachander said in the SUN TV interview "I had directed only one movie for Sivaji. Had I directed more, perhaps I would have become even a greater director" This reminds me of "The whole world is a stage and man and women are merely its players"-William Shakespeare.
(Balachandar also found it so difficult to write dialogue for Sathya Movies first film Deivathaai where MGR used a thrid person RM Veerappan to alter the dialogues for MGR. That was the only film where Balachander worked with MGR.)
Thaliya Salangaiya is another movie I did not see. Your are right about referring to the source itself - the record. My information comes from a book by Kannadasan "CHinthithen Chanthithen" in which he says Pugazhendhi slected the poems of Kannadasan for this movie. I must have misread selection to be composition of music.
Thanks for all the details.
I think you should visit all the discussion threads to put things aright, as you had assisted on my KVM article. You were my right hand man in giving a helping hand in moments of difficulties. You take much pain and I admire your commitment and dedication. You are a great asset to the TFM Team. I hope the TFM team utilises you to the fullest in the interest of reconstructing the lost details.
May the Almighty give you all the strangth and blessings in your meritorious efforts in assisting the TFM Team.
Manisegaran
Ethiroli song "Kunguma chimizhi" is TMS solo for Sivakumar. While riding bi-cycle, he starts thinking abt Lakshmi (his sweet-heart) and starts the song. Am not sure whether PS has sung a song in Ethiroli.
Saravanan,
Ethiroli songs
1.dadddattaa dududduttu dum dum mELam kalyAnam kalyAnam -A.L.Rakavan, L.R.Eswari.
2.kunguma simizhil maathuLai muththukkaL kottik kidappathenna TMS (I am not sure it is SSR or Sivakumarsinging in the park)
3.unga nalla manasukkoru kuRaiyumillE thaanath thannanaanaa - L.R.Eswari. Vijayalaitha (Major's jOdi in the film) sings on top of a small kunRu to comfort the worried Sivaji.
Mani Sir, your words have moved me.I don't think I deserve so much praise.
Thank you for your blessings.
In fact, I have learned so much from you and many other people in this forum.
Subbu and Sathya Kabali, thanks for the information.
Interview with PugazhEndhi - KVM's assistant
http://kumudam.com/junction/07012k3/pg3.html
grt site keep up
grt site keep up
I think KVMs landmark movies are :
1. Thiruvilayaadal
2. Thillana moganambal
3. Sankarabaranam
4. Vasantha maligai
5. Enipadigal
6. Navarathiri
7. Kungumam
8. Iruvar ullam
9. Vettaikaran
Yes, he is one of the giants of TFM
Somehow, in the late 70s, he faded from Tamil films. Atleast MSV could sustain up to 1980 before IR totally took charge
Hello Balaji.....
As per my memory, the following are the movies for which music compossed by K.V.Mahadevan. There are plenty, but these are some of them which I could collect from my rememberance:
For MGR:
1) Sabaash maapillai
2) Nallavan Vaazhvaan
3) Thaai Sollai Thattaathey
4) Thaayai kaaththa thanayan
5) Kudumba Thalaivan
6) Dharmam Thalai kaakkum
7) Neethikkuppin paasam
8) Vettaikaaran
9) Mugarasi
10) Kannithaai
11) Thanipiravi
12) Thaaikku thalaimagan
13) Vivasayee
14) Ther Thiruvizha
15) Kaadahl vaaganam
16) Nalla Neram
17) Adimai penn (Silver Jubilee)
18) Maattukkaara Velan (Silver Jubilee)
19) Pattikkaattu Ponnaiya
20) Annamitta Kai
21) En Annan
For Shivaji:
22) Padikkaatha Medhai
23) Kulamagal Raadhai
24) Kungumam
25) Navarathiri
26) Thiruvilaiyaadal (Silver Jubilee)
27) Selvam
28) Maha kavi Kaalidoss
29) Saraswathi Sabatham
30) Pesum Dheivam
31) Thiruvarut selvar
32) Thirumaal Perumai
33) Thillaana Mohanaambal
34) Vietnam Veedu
35) Ethiroli (Peculier 'kootani' of Shivaji, KB, KVM)
36) Kulamaa Gunamaa
37) Arunodhayam
38) Vasantha Maaligai (Silver Jubilee)
39) Engal Thanga Raja
40) Uththaman
41) Sathiyam
42) Vaani Rani
Others:
43) Aadhi Paraasakthi (Silver Jubvilee)
44) Panamaa Paasama (Silver Jubilee)
45) Saradhaa
46) Raththa Thilagam (shivaji)
47) Irulum Oliyum
48) Anaadhai Anandhan
49) Puthiya Vaazhkkai
50) Yeni Padigal
51) Ponnaana Vaazhvu
If anything come to my memory, I will continue.........
Also Pallandu vaazga - For MGR
in your list.
Dear Saradhaji,
I think :
1. Engal thanga raja
2. Uthaman
Are by MSV , if am not wrong ???
Engal thanga raja - Ennadi raakamma pallaku is a famous one. Still being used in light music programmes
Neengal athainai perum uthamar thaana sollungal - Uthaman, I think this must be MSV .
Dear Balaji...
"Ennadi Raakkamma pallaakku nelippu"...song from Pattikkaada Pattanama by MSV (not in Engal Thanga Raja).
"Neengal aththanai perum uththamar thaanaa"...song from 'En Magan' by MSV (not in Uththaman).
Both 'Engal Thanga Raja' and 'uththaman' are compossed by KVM only (I am 200% sure).
Thank you very much for pointing out.Quote:
Originally Posted by saradhaa_sn
Can you pls let us know some famous songs from
Engal thanga raja and
Uthaman
I want to go backwards and recollect those songs and the picture.
Sure. Why not...?
Engal Thanga Raja:
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1) Saamiyilum saamiyithu ....oomaisaamy (Manjula group teasing Shivaji)
2) Kalyaana aasai vandha kaaranaththai... (Shivaji & Manjula)
3) Karpaam Maanamaam.... (Shivaji solo)
4) Iravukkum pagalukkum iniyenna velai...(Shivaji & manjula)
5) Kodiyil oruvan pirandhu vandhaan.... (pathos)
6) Muththangal nooru..... (Shivaji & CID Sakunthala)
Uththaman
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1) Kelaai magane.... (Shivaji with child)
2) Naalai naalai endrirundhen.... (Shivaji & Manjula)
3) Padagu padagu aasai padagu...(Shivaji & Manjula)
4) Hari Om Ranga Hari.... (Shivaji & Manlula)
see you again......
Thank you very much . Why I wanted the songs is that I can identify KVMs music by the style of his songs.Quote:
Originally Posted by saradhaa_sn
Kalyana aasai vandha karanathai &
Iravukkum pagalukkum - Are typical KVM songs.
Again, Padagu padagu - Also a KVM style song only
Thank you once again.
Onru serndha anbu maarumaa - Lovely one - Nambiar and ???
PBS and ???
Who was the MD . Is it KVM only ??
Also - Endru vantha sondhamaa . Edayil vandha banthamaa -
Melodious one - TMS and PS. Who is the MD ??
Dear Balaji....
1) "Ondru serndha anbu maaruma".... Makkalaipetra magarasi by KVM.
Actors Nambiar & M.N.Rajam (many people thinking that they are brother and sister, because of their intials "M.N.")
Singers: PBS & Suseela
2) "Indru Vandha Sondhamaa"... in the movie 'Chitraangi'
Music by : T.R.Pappa.
Thank you very much.Quote:
Originally Posted by saradhaa_sn
By the way - vandi urundoda achaani vendum - Sirgazi and PS - Nice song - Is it by KVM??
I love KVM in :
1. Iruvar ullam
2. Kungumam
I could see a different KVM in the 2 movies.
Yes Balaji...
"Vandi urundoda" by KVM in Vannakkili.
Then, two more Films of KVM with different taste are:
1) Vaanambaadi
2) Idhaya kamalam
all songs in both movies are super hit.
Thank you , Authority on Old Films !!Quote:
Originally Posted by saradhaa_sn
Can you pls list the songs in those movies. Also Vanambadi - is it SSR's movie ??
Hi,
Ondru serndha anbu maaruma is sung by PB Sreenivas and a singer called Sarojini (not PS as mentioned by Sarada). I do not know any other song of her. Very well sung by both of them.
her name is udutha sarojini
Any other hits she had given ??Quote:
Originally Posted by rajeshkrv