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ajithfederer
30th January 2011, 11:33 AM
Poll added.

ajithfederer
30th January 2011, 11:34 AM
Gilchrist - No other choice comes even close, ok may be boucher for w/k skills but as an overall package Gilly walks into any team.

Sangakkara

Boucher

littlemaster1982
30th January 2011, 11:36 AM
1. Gilchrist
2. Gilchrist
3. Gilchrist

8-)

Plum
30th January 2011, 11:44 AM
AF, idhai marquee threadA feb-la open paNNi worldup aarambikarachE climax koNdu pOgalAmnu irundhEn :(

ajithfederer
30th January 2011, 11:46 AM
:lol:

I wanted all this hub team exercise to be finished so that wc thread(s) GET full attention. :P

Vivasaayi
30th January 2011, 12:19 PM
Gilchrist

After solid batsmen like lara,aravinda,steve...gilli for the finishing touch

P_R
30th January 2011, 01:04 PM
Gilli
I espet unopposed victory.

Let us change the nomination pattern this time.

Only those who will vote for someone other than Gilli nominate some other person with your arguments defending him.

Plum
30th January 2011, 01:17 PM
Unopposed? No way.
Gilly is an opening batsman in ODIs. #7 is a finisher role which requires someone with the ability to vary tempo as required. MS Dhoni is the ideal candidate with attacking plus consolidating skills. Decent keeping plus can captain when Waugh steps off the field :)
Gilly has always been a throw it all master at the top order with licence to kill. At #7, he will not have the mental luxury of throwing his bat assuming that the Pontings, Martyns, Waughses and Bevans will rebuild if he fails. I am not sure if Gilly will take that pressure.
He has done that in tests but this is a different ball game, Sehwag being a prime example why.
MSDhoni, my candidate.
Andy Flower deserves a honorary mention, too.
Sanga and Kaluwitharana can throw their hat, too, although Sanga at #7 isnt an option.
Moin Khan/ Latif for the spinners?
Mongia to please the bookies lobby?

HonestRaj
30th January 2011, 03:12 PM
Mongia to please the bookies lobby?

- plum ivlOdhana unga nominations.. illai unga hyderabad'la irundhu MSK Prasad, northla irundhu sameer dighe, saba karim ivanga ellam illaya

sathya_1979
30th January 2011, 06:15 PM
Andy Flower

Movie Cop
31st January 2011, 06:56 AM
Gilchrist

After solid batsmen like lara,aravinda,steve...gilli for the finishing touch
Gilli pineesing touch - nevaair! :lol: Slog overs, well spread out field, Gilli oda Gilli eguridhum.

To put in layman terms:

Gilly as opener = Goundamani in a Ramarajan/Sathyaraj masala flick. Pinni pedal edupaaru...

Gilly @ #7 = Gundamani in Balu Mahendra/Adoor Gopalakrishanan movie... Out of flace, out of flace...

Gilly's best (and only) bet in a wEld ODI XI is as an opener. At #7, he is the downright rejeett. More teknikEl on my 3 nominEsans later, as I gotta run now. :)

P_R
31st January 2011, 08:03 AM
ayyA battingE pudikkalainnAlum Gilli is a better keeper than anyone else being considered for nomination. Thatswhy unopposed ngEn

ajithfederer
31st January 2011, 08:08 AM
Completely disagree.


Gilchrist

After solid batsmen like lara,aravinda,steve...gilli for the finishing touch
Gilli pineesing touch - nevaair! :lol: Slog overs, well spread out field, Gilli oda Gilli eguridhum.

To put in layman terms:

Gilly as opener = Goundamani in a Ramarajan/Sathyaraj masala flick. Pinni pedal edupaaru...

Gilly @ #7 = Gundamani in Balu Mahendra/Adoor Gopalakrishanan movie... Out of flace, out of flace...

Gilly's best (and only) bet in a wEld ODI XI is as an opener. At #7, he is the downright rejeett. More teknikEl on my 3 nominEsans later, as I gotta run now. :)

Plum
31st January 2011, 09:02 AM
KeepernA battingla gillyA irukkONum feeyaar.(Pun intended)m keeping konjam munne pinne irundhaalum adjust madikkuvom. Idhu dhaan gillyOda legacy to cricket. He is being hung on his own noose :)

It's a fair point isnt it? Field restrictions overs mudinjavuNE typically he gets out isnt it? An analysis on his stats in first 15 overs and post that in order.
Oru padhavikku nomination paNNinA last 30 years tax returns scrutinise paNNuvOmla

ajithfederer
31st January 2011, 09:17 AM
Pfftt please plum. Unga mud slingingkku alavae illama pogudhu. As if he never played past the 15th over.

jinju
31st January 2011, 09:29 AM
oh, so now there's discussion regarding Gilly's ability to clear fields! what next?

Plum
31st January 2011, 09:42 AM
Jinju, the question is one of role. Show me his record when batting without the luxury of a super batting lineup to follow.post powerplay stats enna?
Rhetoric thavirththu, show me the stats.
(YArAvadhu pongi statsguru query pOduvIngannu pArthA...only rhetoric varudhu..hmmm)

jinju
31st January 2011, 09:55 AM
Jinju, the question is one of role. Show me his record when batting without the luxury of a super batting lineup to follow.post powerplay stats enna?
Rhetoric thavirththu, show me the stats.
(YArAvadhu pongi statsguru query pOduvIngannu pArthA...only rhetoric varudhu..hmmm)

is it his fault, and it's a hypothetical thought that he wudn't have been so successful othwise. his best innings in tests (agree it's a different format but how many captains don't keep men on boundary even in tests for him?) if u look at it, wud be when the super batting lineup collapsed.

am not a stats person, so someone gud at that can do it if really interested that is! but some players r above all these mere stats and numbers thing, and Gilly is one such. and if u r talking about powerplay thing, remember there is another 5 over block for batsmen now which can be taken late in the innings.

littlemaster1982
31st January 2011, 10:06 AM
Jinju, the question is one of role. Show me his record when batting without the luxury of a super batting lineup to follow.post powerplay stats enna?
Rhetoric thavirththu, show me the stats.
(YArAvadhu pongi statsguru query pOduvIngannu pArthA...only rhetoric varudhu..hmmm)

Plum,

If we go by statistics, then we can run a statsguru query for each position and select a team, right? We need a powerful hitter down the order and if he is a batsman as solid as Gilly, why would you look out for some other person?

Plum
31st January 2011, 11:06 AM
Jinju, the question is one of role. Show me his record when batting without the luxury of a super batting lineup to follow.post powerplay stats enna?
Rhetoric thavirththu, show me the stats.
(YArAvadhu pongi statsguru query pOduvIngannu pArthA...only rhetoric varudhu..hmmm)

Plum,

If we go by statistics, then we can run a statsguru query for each position and select a team, right? We need a powerful hitter down the order and if he is a batsman as solid as Gilly, why would you look out for some other person?

adhellAm sari. I am just interested in the numbers. Numbers do tell a story, though you have to scrounge through to get the right numbers. Statistics is not all lies as long as you get the right measures.
In this case, a simple calculation of his post 15 overs performance will surely be a good indicator. We cannot measure how he'll perform when denied the luxury of a super lineup - his deccan chargers record came after his prime so I will not hold it against him.

Anyway, the case for Dhoni is equally strong given his ability to clear the ropes and ability to consolidate when early wickets fall. As a batsman, Dhoni can quite give Gilly a run for his money. An average of nearly 50 with 80 plus strike rate after 6-7 years of ODI experience is not to be scoffed at.

Ok, the point is it is not as unopposed as some of you would have us believe. It is not, like, Sachin for opener. That is a open and shut case - even that had its naysayers here, you know it. I cant imagine a consensus in favour of electing Gilly unopposed

jinju
31st January 2011, 11:17 AM
Jinju, the question is one of role. Show me his record when batting without the luxury of a super batting lineup to follow.post powerplay stats enna?
Rhetoric thavirththu, show me the stats.
(YArAvadhu pongi statsguru query pOduvIngannu pArthA...only rhetoric varudhu..hmmm)

Plum,

If we go by statistics, then we can run a statsguru query for each position and select a team, right? We need a powerful hitter down the order and if he is a batsman as solid as Gilly, why would you look out for some other person?

adhellAm sari. I am just interested in the numbers. Numbers do tell a story, though you have to scrounge through to get the right numbers. Statistics is not all lies as long as you get the right measures.
In this case, a simple calculation of his post 15 overs performance will surely be a good indicator. We cannot measure how he'll perform when denied the luxury of a super lineup - his deccan chargers record came after his prime so I will not hold it against him.

Anyway, the case for Dhoni is equally strong given his ability to clear the ropes and ability to consolidate when early wickets fall. As a batsman, Dhoni can quite give Gilly a run for his money. An average of nearly 50 with 80 plus strike rate after 6-7 years of ODI experience is not to be scoffed at.

Ok, the point is it is not as unopposed as some of you would have us believe. It is not, like, Sachin for opener. That is a open and shut case - even that had its naysayers here, you know it. I cant imagine a consensus in favour of electing Gilly unopposed

not underestimating/berating MSD's qualities, but since u r questioning Gilly's 'inability' to clear the ropes in non-powerplay overs, can u state when this last happened?!

Plum
31st January 2011, 11:22 AM
jinj, I am not questioning Gilly's abilities but am asking for his stats. There is a difference. Batting after powerplay overs is not about ability to clear ropes but an ability to adapt to a different set of circumstances.

For good or bad, Gilly throughout his career had only one batting role in ODIs - come in as opener, open fire with all cylinders on, care a damn about getting shot down because a quality backup force was backing him up. Will he buckle down and take the team from 79/5 in 23 Overs to 230/9 in 50 Overs? Or blaze all guns and lead them to 157 all out in 37 overs? Ok, so that is speculation but we can atleast get the numbers of did he ever change his approach after 15 overs in his career or it was always all guns blazing.

Plum
31st January 2011, 11:23 AM
not underestimating/berating MSD's qualities, but since u r questioning Gilly's 'inability' to clear the ropes in non-powerplay overs, can u state when this last happened?!
idhai nInga kEkkalAm. nAn kEttA illai badhil sonnA rasApAsamA aauidum :)

Movie Cop
31st January 2011, 11:31 AM
Jinju, LM, Feddy,
You guys are missing the point. It was Gilly thondargal who made outrageous claims that this poll is a no brainer, can't think of anyone but Gilly etc. kind of sweeping statements. So, I see Plum's post, in a way (whether intended or not), as a "tit-for-tat" sweeping retaliation of questioning Gilly record @ #7. Adhukku frofer-uhh reply pannAma, "annan-ukku baniyan size 42" range-le reply panreengale?

You guys claimed it, Plum is just asking to prove it. Adha vittutu, don't unnecassarily fut words in our mouths, I say! :P

jinju
31st January 2011, 11:32 AM
not underestimating/berating MSD's qualities, but since u r questioning Gilly's 'inability' to clear the ropes in non-powerplay overs, can u state when this last happened?!
idhai nInga kEkkalAm. nAn kEttA illai badhil sonnA rasApAsamA aauidum :)

adhukku thaan careful-a phrase pannirukken:)

ok, yaaraavadhu stat gurus stats podungappaa. let Plum breathe easy.

irundhaalum yendra vote MSDkku dhaan. coz i believe if not for captaincy, he wudn't have changed his game to what it is now. and with Steve Waugh as captain of the team, this guy can be what he was, once...THE DESTROYER, and he does it better than anyone I have seen, barring Viv Richards! as for glovework, he n Gilly r same to same. if that was the only criteria, Moin Khan/Latif idhula yaaraavadhu choose pannalaame.

Dinesh84
31st January 2011, 11:43 AM
Dravit :mrgreen:

Movie Cop
31st January 2011, 11:43 AM
Ok, on a serious note, quite honestly, wearing a Chappell/Boycott hat, I don't see a place for Gilly in a wEld XI if he is not playing as an opener. Given Sachin's place is granted as opener - it just boils down to SeyasuriyaR or Gilly. I would have voted for Gilly over SeyasuriyaR but I joined this poll a bit late. Like SeyasuriyaR, Gilly is a "spot specialist". A batsman who can go over the top out of sheer timing, and more importantly with field restrictions in place. If not an opener, the intimidation factor for the opponents/bowlers is diluted by a good 60-70%.

At #7, and we are looking at the arrival anywhere around 35-40th over, the likes of Voucher, Moin Khan, Dhoni, McCullum or even DeVilliers can clear a well spread out field more consistently with brute power and muscle flexing. Even *strirtly* in WK'ing mode, the likes of Boucher, Healy and Richardson can beat Gilly fair and square. But this is not Test cricket. So, it'sok. We are looking for a hard hitting batsman during slog overs who could also keep wickets. So, let's discount the likes of Healy and Richardson. So, Voucher it is.

As I said, I'd picked Gilly as an opener but if Gilly misses the slot as an opener, that means he is not going to be in the team.

Movie Cop
31st January 2011, 11:51 AM
My 3 nominEsans for the #7 batting spot (who could also keep wickets):

#1. Voucher
#2. Dhoni
#3. Moin Khan

(Outside suffort: McCullum, DeVilliers)

I don't mind even if my favourite Voucher is not selected in the team. But I would hate to see Gily picked at #7 ahead of anyone of the above 5.

RR, Saurov, Kalyasi, Maddy, Thirumaran matrum annaithu Dhoni kazhaga kanmanigal ellorum, "Annan" dhoni-ai jeikka vaikumaaru vendikkolgiren. :mrgreen:

jinju
31st January 2011, 11:52 AM
Ok, on a serious note, quite honestly, wearing a Chappell/Boycott hat, I don't see a place for Gilly in a wEld XI if he is not playing as an opener. Given Sachin's place is granted as opener - it just boils down to SeyasuriyaR or Gilly. I would have voted for Gilly over SeyasuriyaR but I joined this poll a bit late. Like SeyasuriyaR, Gilly is a "spot specialist". A batsman who can go over the top out of sheer timing, and more importantly with field restrictions in place. If not an opener, the intimidation factor for the opponents/bowlers is diluted by a good 60-70%.

At #7, and we are looking at the arrival anywhere around 35-40th over, the likes of Voucher, Moin Khan, Dhoni, McCullum or even DeVilliers can clear a well spread out field more consistently with brute power and muscle flexing. Even *strirtly* in WK'ing mode, the likes of Boucher, Healy and Richardson can beat Gilly fair and square. But this is not Test cricket. So, it'sok. We are looking for a hard hitting batsman during slog overs who could also keep wickets. So, let's discount the likes of Healy and Richardson. So, Voucher it is.

As I said, I'd picked Gilly as an opener but if Gilly misses the slot as an opener, that means he is not going to be in the team.

MC, indha rendu hat pottu neenga judgment sonnaa, Plum eathukka maattaar yenna oruthar avaroda kudumba edhiri, innoruthar Yenglees man! so adha edit pannunga:lol:

indha Gilly's effectiveness diluted by this much, no fear factor if not in powerplay idhellaam hypothetic assumptions

Movie Cop
31st January 2011, 11:53 AM
Rashid Latif thambi kooda "OK" saice for #7 but Moin Khan is lot more reliable and much more of a power hitter.

Movie Cop
31st January 2011, 11:56 AM
Ok, on a serious note, quite honestly, wearing a Chappell/Boycott hat, I don't see a place for Gilly in a wEld XI if he is not playing as an opener. Given Sachin's place is granted as opener - it just boils down to SeyasuriyaR or Gilly. I would have voted for Gilly over SeyasuriyaR but I joined this poll a bit late. Like SeyasuriyaR, Gilly is a "spot specialist". A batsman who can go over the top out of sheer timing, and more importantly with field restrictions in place. If not an opener, the intimidation factor for the opponents/bowlers is diluted by a good 60-70%.

At #7, and we are looking at the arrival anywhere around 35-40th over, the likes of Voucher, Moin Khan, Dhoni, McCullum or even DeVilliers can clear a well spread out field more consistently with brute power and muscle flexing. Even *strirtly* in WK'ing mode, the likes of Boucher, Healy and Richardson can beat Gilly fair and square. But this is not Test cricket. So, it'sok. We are looking for a hard hitting batsman during slog overs who could also keep wickets. So, let's discount the likes of Healy and Richardson. So, Voucher it is.

As I said, I'd picked Gilly as an opener but if Gilly misses the slot as an opener, that means he is not going to be in the team.

MC, indha rendu hat pottu neenga judgment sonnaa, Plum eathukka maattaar yenna oruthar avaroda kudumba edhiri, innoruthar Yenglees man! so adha edit pannunga:lol:

indha Gilly's effectiveness diluted by this much, no fear factor if not in powerplay idhellaam hypothetic assumptions
Jinju,
To steal PR's phrase, "Vadai innum varali" for Plum's praud. :)

By the by, indhe "englepiece kaaran" sentiment vechu enga kootani-ye odaikalAm-nu paakureengala? :)

enge kootaniye asachika mudhiyadhu, asachika mudiyadhu... :wink:

Plum
31st January 2011, 12:00 PM
My 3 nominEsans for the #7 batting spot (who could also keep wickets):

#1. Voucher
#2. Dhoni
#3. Moin Khan

(Outside suffort: McCullum, DeVilliers)

I don't mind even if my favourite Voucher is not selected in the team. But I would hate to see Gily picked at #7 ahead of anyone of the above 5.

RR, Saurov, Kalyasi, Maddy, Thirumaran matrum annaithu Dhoni kazhaga kanmanigal ellorum, "Annan" dhoni-ai jeikka vaikumaaru vendikkolgiren. :mrgreen:

idhula only Kalyasi and Maddy (DMK) Dhoni munnEtra kazhagam. Sourav is Viru(jayakanth) munnetra kazhagam therefore DMDK
Thirumaran is Anti DMK so avaru vote pOda mAttar Dhonikku
RR - not sure.

Movie Cop
31st January 2011, 12:13 PM
(DMK) Dhoni munnEtra kazhagam.
:lol:


Dhoni fans moththamA boycott paNdrAngannu nenaikkaRen after sachin was chosen without a poll. ExplicitA sollalai. But participation illai.
Kamaan Dhoni fans, this is the time to stay united.

jinju
31st January 2011, 12:14 PM
Rashid Latif thambi kooda "OK" saice for #7 but Moin Khan is lot more reliable and much more of a power hitter.

2 awesome players whose careers didn't reach full potential bcoz of the permanent bane of Pakistani cricket - politics!

Moin Khan has to be the most irritating keeper too. i remember a match after which world cup squads were to be announced, India was struggling chasing Pak's huge total. Mongia and tail was left, with above 7 per over or something like that to get...Mongia was given a last chance in that series but failed in all matches and this was the last match, so was thadavifying to somehow get a 50 and get into the world cup team, but not trying to win the match at all. after getting bored of Mongia's defending and unwillingness to even try to clear midon and midoff, Moin started shouting "please take him to the world cup, he's very good player" etc etc. it was really funny!

irundhaalum Moin is predominantly a leg side player i think. his main shot is the pick up to the left side. and he plays that to balls outside off too, sometimes gets trapped. Latif, fluent player, timer! whattye pakistan team that was!

Plum
31st January 2011, 12:23 PM
Actually, with the match fixing judgement coming in February, pak Cricket might be back to walls by the time of World Cup.
And that is when they are most dangerous. With a Proud Fierce Pathan leading the side after Imran Khan(Afridi -almost confirmed that he'll captain), one cannot rule out a Pakistan World Cup victory this time.
(Afridi is said to be anti-bookies and therefore less chances of the talented Paki team deliberately losing matches. And if they dont do that, they are serious contenders any time)

Movie Cop
31st January 2011, 12:26 PM
Yes good points/observations, Jinu. I've very hazy memories of bth Moin Khan's and Latif's batting eventhough it's well etchd in my mind that bth these guys are very audacious, flamboyant hitters of the ball during the slog overs. As far Moin, the '92 world cup semi's remains in memory. Inzy did bulk of the work while chasing but when Inzy got out Pakistan were still not completely out of the woods eventhough miandad was batting (playing a sheet-anchor role) at the other end. Moin Khan right out of the bat, gave a few lusty blows to settle the game in Paistan's favour.

Very talented guys, but part of a flaky Pakistani setup and Latif's involvement in match fixing controversies didn't help matters.

Plum
31st January 2011, 12:30 PM
Moviecop, make it clear. Latif was against the match-fixers and hence was in controversy. he wasnt involved in match fixing as far as I know

Movie Cop
31st January 2011, 12:34 PM
Moviecop, make it clear. Latif was against the match-fixers and hence was in controversy. he wasnt involved in match fixing as far as I know
Oh is it? :oops: Saary, there has been lot going on with Pakistan's match fixing episodes, I don't even know or tend to get mixed up with who is involved in what... :oops:

P_R
31st January 2011, 12:54 PM
Gilly better keeper than anyone else mentioned in this thread

Gilly better bat w/o field restrictions than anyone else mentioned in this thread. The only combarison foint may be Poucher.

Mohangaan, receipt ellAm eppidinga solreenga??

Plum
31st January 2011, 12:58 PM
Mohangaan, receipt ellAm eppidinga solreenga??
purinjikka two minutes Achu. enna dhAn nInga B(K) mAdhiri try paNNAlum, avaru oru twist paNNinA, original pEru sattunnu purinjudum, andha accessibility unga kitta illai.

P_R
31st January 2011, 01:06 PM
kee is peacock, i yam turkey

ajithfederer
31st January 2011, 01:07 PM
Plum

How long do we have to wait for the Nominations?/

Plum
31st January 2011, 01:08 PM
Be that as it may, atleast 3 nominations are sound and worth discussing
Gilchrist
Dhoni
Boucher.

Condinue everyone

Movie Cop
31st January 2011, 01:17 PM
1. Gilly better keeper than anyone else mentioned in this thread.

Neah.... Gilly < Voucher, Healy, Richardson.

2. Gilly better bat w/o field restrictions than anyone else mentioned in this thread. The only combarison foint may be Poucher.

Again neah.... Vouhcer, Dhoni, Moin Gaan, McCullum > Gilly @ #7

Since, this is a one-day team, we disregard 1 (and keep that for our Test XI, if we plan to select one).

Plum
31st January 2011, 01:54 PM
Plum

How long do we have to wait for the Nominations?/
You are threat owner. You get to decide :)

raajarasigan
31st January 2011, 02:35 PM
RR, Saurov, Kalyasi, Maddy, Thirumaran matrum annaithu Dhoni kazhaga kanmanigal ellorum, "Annan" dhoni-ai jeikka vaikumaaru vendikkolgiren. :mrgreen:ODI'ngrathaala Kandippa Dhoni'kku than en vottu... :D btw, Gilchrist'a vidavum konjam kashtam dhein... :oops:

my nominations:

1. Dhoni
2. Gilchrist
3. Boucher

Sangi also deserves a nomination here but # 7 slot'kku otthu vara maattan...

ajithfederer
7th February 2011, 01:07 AM
Reminder:

An extra day to remind to anybody who wants to file a Nomination.

ajithfederer
7th February 2011, 01:13 AM
This is where I said we completely disagree. Nobody is even remotely close to Gilchrist in big hitting. He has like 16 Int'l ODI 100's for christ sakes.

Cardinal Mistake to put Gilly down the order and give opening to Jayasurya :banghead:.

Ok, on a serious note, quite honestly, wearing a Chappell/Boycott hat, I don't see a place for Gilly in a wEld XI if he is not playing as an opener. Given Sachin's place is granted as opener - it just boils down to SeyasuriyaR or Gilly. I would have voted for Gilly over SeyasuriyaR but I joined this poll a bit late. Like SeyasuriyaR, Gilly is a "spot specialist". A batsman who can go over the top out of sheer timing, and more importantly with field restrictions in place. If not an opener, the intimidation factor for the opponents/bowlers is diluted by a good 60-70%.

At #7, and we are looking at the arrival anywhere around 35-40th over, the likes of Voucher, Moin Khan, Dhoni, McCullum or even DeVilliers can clear a well spread out field more consistently with brute power and muscle flexing. Even *strirtly* in WK'ing mode, the likes of Boucher, Healy and Richardson can beat Gilly fair and square. But this is not Test cricket.. So, it'sok. We are looking for a hard hitting batsman during slog overs who could also keep wickets. So, let's discount the likes of Healy and Richardson. So, Voucher it is.
As I said, I'd picked Gilly as an opener but if Gilly misses the slot as an opener, that means he is not going to be in the team.

ajithfederer
7th February 2011, 11:54 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Reminder:

An extra day to remind to anybody who wants to file a Nomination.

littlemaster1982
7th February 2011, 12:08 PM
This is where I said we completely disagree. Nobody is even remotely close to Gilchrist in big hitting. He has like 16 Int'l ODI 100's for christ sakes.

Cardinal Mistake to put Gilly down the order and give opening to Jayasurya :banghead:.

+245682328

Riyazz
7th February 2011, 12:22 PM
A.Flower,
Boucher,
gilchrist

Plum
7th February 2011, 12:30 PM
+245682328
Can't help. Democracy is democracy.

Movie Cop
7th February 2011, 01:52 PM
This is where I said we completely disagree. Nobody is even remotely close to Gilchrist in big hitting. He has like 16 Int'l ODI 100's for christ sakes.

Cardinal Mistake to put Gilly down the order and give opening to Jayasurya :banghead:.

Agree with you only on the bolded part. I missed the opener’s poll. I’d have voted for Gilly over Jayasuriya. Not that Jayasuriya is a below par opener or anything. Of course, Jayasuriya is one of the finest openers in ODI history. But picking a solid opener like Gilly (who is also a solid wicket keeper) gives more options to the team down the order. It paves way to go for a genuine, hard hitting, all rounder at #7. By picking Jayasuriya, we are now forced to pick a WK at #7 who could also play some big shots during slog overs with a well spread out field.

Stritly in WK’ing mode, Healy/Boucher > Gilly. But this is ODI cricke hence we could trade wicket keeping abilities for more power hitting/batting at #7. This is where a Boucher, Dhoni, Moin Khan, McCullum can outscore Gilly.

Below note is not for you, AF. It’s a general note to our fellow hubbers.

Again stritly as a batsman, Sangakarra > any other WK we are talking in this poll (including Gilly). So, does it mean that we should pick Sangakarra, by default, ahead of everyone else? No, right? So, that is precisely my argument about Gilly.

P.S.: It feels sad that there will not be a place (potentially) in our hub world ODI XI for a player like Gilly (as an opener, that is/of course). :(

Movie Cop
7th February 2011, 02:01 PM
I've a feeling that either one of Boucher or Dhoni is going to (deservingly) win this poll for #7 slot.

Since I mentioned Dhoni, let me run away from this thread before Flum starts shooting at me. :yessir:

ajithfederer
8th February 2011, 09:11 AM
Final NOM'S.

Gilchrist

Sangakkara

Boucher




1. Gilchrist
2. Gilchrist
3. Gilchrist

8-)


Gilchrist

After solid batsmen like lara,aravinda,steve...gilli for the finishing touch


Gilli
I espet unopposed victory.

Let us change the nomination pattern this time.

Only those who will vote for someone other than Gilli nominate some other person with your arguments defending him.


Unopposed? No way.
Gilly is an opening batsman in ODIs. #7 is a finisher role which requires someone with the ability to vary tempo as required. MS Dhoni is the ideal candidate with attacking plus consolidating skills. Decent keeping plus can captain when Waugh steps off the field :)
Gilly has always been a throw it all master at the top order with licence to kill. At #7, he will not have the mental luxury of throwing his bat assuming that the Pontings, Martyns, Waughses and Bevans will rebuild if he fails. I am not sure if Gilly will take that pressure.
He has done that in tests but this is a different ball game, Sehwag being a prime example why.
MSDhoni, my candidate.
Andy Flower deserves a honorary mention, too.
Sanga and Kaluwitharana can throw their hat, too, although Sanga at #7 isnt an option.
Moin Khan/ Latif for the spinners?
Mongia to please the bookies lobby?


Andy Flower


Dravit :mrgreen:


My 3 nominEsans for the #7 batting spot (who could also keep wickets):

#1. Voucher
#2. Dhoni
#3. Moin Khan

(Outside suffort: McCullum, DeVilliers)

I don't mind even if my favourite Voucher is not selected in the team. But I would hate to see Gily picked at #7 ahead of anyone of the above 5.

RR, Saurov, Kalyasi, Maddy, Thirumaran matrum annaithu Dhoni kazhaga kanmanigal ellorum, "Annan" dhoni-ai jeikka vaikumaaru vendikkolgiren. :mrgreen:


A.Flower,
Boucher,
gilchrist

ajithfederer
8th February 2011, 09:30 AM
Gilly - 6 (Added dinesh 84 nom)
Boucher - 3
Andy Flower - 3
MS Dhoni - 3 (Added dinesh 84 nom)
Sanga - 2
Moin Khan - 2
Rashid Latif/Mongia/AB De Villiers/Kaluwitharana/McCullum - 1

ajithfederer
8th February 2011, 09:33 AM
Guys the top multiple nominated candidates are automatically selected. If you guys can pick 4 among the rest of the single nominated candidates by tomorrow I will put up the poll. If not I will randomly select 4 choices.

Dinesh84
8th February 2011, 10:59 AM
Dravid laam summa sonnathu.. so u can remove his name..

My nominations

Dhoni
Gilchrist

raajarasigan
8th February 2011, 11:00 AM
my nominations:

1. Dhoni
2. Gilchrist
3. Boucher

Sangi also deserves a nomination here but # 7 slot'kku otthu vara maattan...:evil: :oops:

ajithfederer
8th February 2011, 11:09 AM
:twisted: :evil: :twisted:
Changed.

Dravid laam summa sonnathu.. so u can remove his name..

My nominations

Dhoni
Gilchrist

ajithfederer
9th February 2011, 10:23 AM
Poll Added. Interested hubbers can vote now.

Riyazz
9th February 2011, 05:42 PM
dhoni ku vote panradhuku badhila sanga ku pannitan.............. :banghead:

ajithfederer
9th February 2011, 10:58 PM
Thunbathilum oru Inbam
Gilly fans all otttu poteilaa? : LM? Vicky? Pr?. ......... Plum :lol2:

littlemaster1982
10th February 2011, 12:02 AM
AF,

Jananayaga kadamai ellam eppavo aatriyaachu :D

ajithfederer
10th February 2011, 12:04 AM
Okok Thanks lm :)

ajithfederer
15th February 2011, 12:55 AM
Bump.... Poll closes in on the 19th of Feb before the 1st match starts.

Plum
21st February 2011, 01:28 PM
Tie between Dhoni and Gilchrist - AF, ippO tie breaker eppadi?

raajarasigan
21st February 2011, 02:44 PM
dhoni ku vote panradhuku badhila sanga ku pannitan.............. :banghead:neenga ozhunga vote pottirundha, indha prasanai vandhirukkuma.. :lol:

ajithfederer
21st February 2011, 11:45 PM
I don't know. You tell me.

Tie between Dhoni and Gilchrist - AF, ippO tie breaker eppadi?