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19thmay
17th November 2010, 07:09 PM
You can start nominate #5 player.

Nomination upper limit edhavadhu vachukuvoma? :roll:

So far...

Inzamam ( GP, Maniraj, Plum, Vivasayi, P_R)

S.Waugh ( P_R, Maniraj, Riyaz, GP)

Ranatunga (Plum, Maniraj, Riyaz)

Rhodes (Plum, GP)

Cronje (P_R)

Bevan ( Riyazz)

Maniraj
17th November 2010, 07:10 PM
Michael Bevan :victory:

P_R
17th November 2010, 07:16 PM
Stephen Rodger Waugh
Wessels Johannes Cronje
Inzamam ul Haq

19thmay
17th November 2010, 07:21 PM
Guys, can we restrict the number of nominations per person to 2?

Vivasaayi
17th November 2010, 07:28 PM
Inzamam!

Maniraj
17th November 2010, 07:49 PM
Per person 3 :P

Plum
17th November 2010, 07:58 PM
Interestingly, only 11 batsmen show up when I filter for #5 batsmen after 1990 with a qualification of minimum 2000 runs (http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_positionmax1=5;batting_position min1=5;batting_positionval1=batting_position;class =2;filter=advanced;orderby=runs;qualmin1=2000;qual val1=runs;spanmin1=01+Jan+1990;spanval1=span;templ ate=results;type=batting)

Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0
A Ranatunga (SL) 1990-1999 128 119 26 3720 102* 40.00 4650 80.00 2 26 5
Inzamam-ul-Haq (Asia/Pak) 1992-2007 113 105 22 3473 85 41.84 4557 76.21 0 27 6
A Symonds (Aus) 2000-2009 106 96 18 3473 156 44.52 3780 91.87 5 23 6
SR Waugh (Aus) 1990-2002 113 105 20 3214 120* 37.81 4231 75.96 2 20 5
Yuvraj Singh (India) 2000-2009 86 81 13 2878 139 42.32 3268 88.06 7 16 7
JN Rhodes (SA) 1992-2003 98 90 23 2734 121 40.80 3310 82.59 2 19 6
PD Collingwood (Eng) 2001-2010 80 77 16 2680 120* 43.93 3307 81.04 4 17 3
Mohammad Yousuf (Asia/Pak) 1998-2009 89 86 10 2599 104* 34.19 3508 74.08 2 17 6
R Dravid (ICC/India) 1996-2007 79 69 13 2459 104 43.91 3341 73.60 2 22 2
CL Cairns (ICC/NZ) 1992-2005 89 86 9 2443 115 31.72 2967 82.33 2 13 4
CL Hooper (WI) 1991-2003 83 78 15 2242 112* 35.58 2954 75.89 2 12 4
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Am I making some mistake in filtering

Plum
17th November 2010, 08:02 PM
19th- Allow 3 nominations per person.

I'll nominate

Arjuna Ranatunga
Jonty Rhodes
Inzamam

Maniraj
17th November 2010, 08:10 PM
Bevan (6th ku thaan perfectnu nenaikiraen)
Inzi
Ranatunga
Steve Waugh (Excluding Bevan)

19thmay
17th November 2010, 08:15 PM
Bevan (6th ku thaan perfectnu nenaikiraen)
Inzi
Ranatunga
Steve Waugh (Excluding Bevan)

Whom I need to ignore, Bevan or S.Waugh?

Maniraj
17th November 2010, 08:28 PM
Bevan (6th ku thaan perfectnu nenaikiraen)
Inzi
Ranatunga
Steve Waugh (Excluding Bevan)

Whom I need to ignore, Bevan or S.Waugh?


Michael Bevan :victory:


Exclude Bevan

Riyazz
17th November 2010, 08:47 PM
s. waugh
bevan
ranatunga

GP
17th November 2010, 09:12 PM
Inzy, Jonti, S. Waugh

HonestRaj
17th November 2010, 09:59 PM
Wessels Johannes Cronje


is this the same H Cronje?

I saw his name as Wessels in a 1992 wc match scorecard.. but i confirmed it is H cronje (when he got out, without the helmet) & the wessels is not Kepler wessels

Dhakshan
17th November 2010, 10:12 PM
S Waugh
J Rhodes
Inzamam

Movie Cop
17th November 2010, 10:58 PM
Flum stritly 3-nu sonnadhu naala below are my nominations.

1. Inzamam "Aloo" Haq.
2. Wessel "Sandiyar" Cronje.
3. Michael "Saravana" Bevan


Estra 3 for others to consider:

4. Andrew "Rowdy" Symonds.
5. Chris "Six Pack" Cairns.
6. Michael "Senthilman" Hussey.

ajithfederer
17th November 2010, 11:17 PM
Add my nomination for steve waugh for #5.

Second nomination will be filed soon.

You can start nominate #5 player.

Nomination upper limit edhavadhu vachukuvoma? :roll:

So far...

Inzamam ( GP, Maniraj, Plum, Vivasayi, P_R)

S.Waugh ( P_R, Maniraj, Riyaz, GP)

Ranatunga (Plum, Maniraj, Riyaz)

Rhodes (Plum, GP)

Cronje (P_R)

Bevan ( Riyazz)

Puliyan_Biryani
17th November 2010, 11:29 PM
Essus me organizers, modhalla team combination sollungo.

Is it going to be "6 Bat + 1 Wk + 4 Bowl" or "5 Bat + 1 Wk + 1 All + 4 Bowl"? idhai poruthudhaan nomination thaakkal seyyappadum. We don't want to get ambushed :wink:.

Plum
18th November 2010, 10:01 AM
I suggest 5 bat + 1 wk + 1 allro + 2 spinners + 2 fast/medium

Allro being medium pace

steveaustin
18th November 2010, 10:10 AM
Steve Waugh
Hansie Cronje &
Andrew Symonds

All these men batted, bowled and fielded brilliantly many times in their career. Besides batsmen, WK and Bowlers, some brilliant fielders also needed for a team. So a brilliant all-round fielder like Symonds nominated here. So far, we almost selected four players who are good fielders and none of them are as quick as these three. As far as fielding is concerned, Inzy may be the weakest link. His running between the wickets the entire world knows. Hence I have to drop Inzy.

raajarasigan
18th November 2010, 11:28 AM
this will be an interesting poll...

my nominations

Hansie Cronje
Michael Beven
Inzamam Ul Haq

evlo yosichaalum England'la irundhu oru player kooda thera maattaanguthe... :roll:

steveaustin
18th November 2010, 11:42 AM
selection policy-ai konjam thaLarththi pArthA Flintoff, Collingkattai (bat+bowl+field) thenpaduvArunnu ninaikkiREn.

90kku munnAdi pArunga.... kidaippAnga...
Great finisher Allan Lamb, Neil Fairbrother (Bevan Version.1.0. In fact, Michael Bevan - Fairbrother Ver 2.0)

raajarasigan
18th November 2010, 11:54 AM
selection policy-ai konjam thaLarththi pArthA Flintoff, Collingkattai (bat+bowl+field) thenpaduvArunnu ninaikkiREn.

90kku munnAdi pArunga.... kidaippAnga...
Great finisher Allan Lamb, Neil Fairbrother (Bevan Version.1.0. In fact, Michael Bevan - Fairbrother Ver 2.0)actually we have Grahem Hick (first name correcta therla :oops: ).. but not so consistent...

MADDY
18th November 2010, 12:14 PM
i would like to know the criteria for selecting sachin tendulkar without a poll

steveaustin
18th November 2010, 12:18 PM
Yuvraj Singh for no.5

i would like to know the criteria for selecting sachin tendulkar without a poll

I think, it was originally started with the intention of choosing a batting partner for Sachin Tendulkar. But, I may be wrong too. :P

Puliyan_Biryani
18th November 2010, 01:20 PM
I suggest 5 bat + 1 wk + 1 allro + 2 spinners + 2 fast/medium

Allro being medium pace
1. idhu suggestion-a? illai finalized plan-a? Reason why I ask is, if there is only one batting slot left, then I prefer Michael Bevan. If there are 2 slots, then my picks for the 2 places would be Inzi and Bevan. Slots-a finalize pannunga modhalla.

2. Two spinners? Unanimous asambaavidham edhaavadhu nadandhurumnu feel panreengala :wink:? Jayasuriya, De Silva-nu rendu part-time spinners irukkaangale. appuram edhukku 2 main spinner? 3 fast bowlers try pannalaame (since fast bowling stocks were pretty good in the 90s)?

Dinesh84
18th November 2010, 01:35 PM
Hanuman Symonds
Saravana Bevan
Payum Puli Rodhes
Suitch hit Pietersen

Plum
18th November 2010, 01:48 PM
PuLi, ellAm sErndhu decide paNNunga. Already, enga mEla(19 and me) neraiya complaints irukku.

Repeat - polls ellAm sufficient time koduthu, opportunity koduthu, stats ellAm filter paNNi ungaLukku vasadhiyA eduthu pOttu, we have given every opp for a fair poll. Only Sachin was chosen unanimously - adhukkum poll vENumna vechu pArthuralAm.

Idhukku mEla nambikkai illainA nIngaLE yArAvadhu eduthu paNNunga

steveaustin
18th November 2010, 02:12 PM
actually we have Grahem Hick (first name correcta therla :oops: ).. but not so consistent...

Graeme Ashley Hick....

raajarasigan
18th November 2010, 02:18 PM
Hanuman Symonds
Saravana Bevan
Payum Puli Rodhes
Suitch hit Pietersenallov... orutharukku 3 peru than allowed..

MADDY
18th November 2010, 02:30 PM
Repeat - polls ellAm sufficient time koduthu, opportunity koduthu, stats ellAm filter paNNi ungaLukku vasadhiyA eduthu pOttu, we have given every opp for a fair poll. Only Sachin was chosen unanimously - adhukkum poll vENumna vechu pArthuralAm.

Idhukku mEla nambikkai illainA nIngaLE yArAvadhu eduthu paNNunga

i still dont understand what is unanimous here - there would be atleast 2-3 people who have choice other than tendulkar for opener slot....

all questions directed at selection process neednt be taken personally because they are not intented to be so......

19thmay
18th November 2010, 03:02 PM
I suggest 5 bat + 1 wk + 1 allro + 2 spinners + 2 fast/medium

Allro being medium pace

I think this is fine.

But 2 spinners required Plumji? Sanath, Sachin, (most proly) AD Silva and if not Hooper are already there.

Maniraj
18th November 2010, 03:32 PM
2 allrounder or 3 fast bowler will be fine :P

19thmay
18th November 2010, 03:44 PM
Repeat - polls ellAm sufficient time koduthu, opportunity koduthu, stats ellAm filter paNNi ungaLukku vasadhiyA eduthu pOttu, we have given every opp for a fair poll. Only Sachin was chosen unanimously - adhukkum poll vENumna vechu pArthuralAm.

Idhukku mEla nambikkai illainA nIngaLE yArAvadhu eduthu paNNunga

i still dont understand what is unanimous here - there would be atleast 2-3 people who have choice other than tendulkar for opener slot....

all questions directed at selection process neednt be taken personally because they are not intented to be so......

We dont like to waste the time of 2-3 people. Vice versa too!

P_R
18th November 2010, 03:45 PM
i still dont understand what is unanimous here - there would be atleast 2-3 people who have choice other than tendulkar for opener slot.... eppidi kaNakku pOttAlum varaadhungaLE

adhai yedhukku waste-A oru poll-ai vachukkuttunnu dhaan vaikkalai.

MADDY
18th November 2010, 03:48 PM
i still dont understand what is unanimous here - there would be atleast 2-3 people who have choice other than tendulkar for opener slot.... eppidi kaNakku pOttAlum varaadhungaLE

adhai yedhukku waste-A oru poll-ai vachukkuttunnu dhaan vaikkalai.

ella position-kkume appadiye podalaame - i mean look at all the polls are lopsided........

Plum
18th November 2010, 03:55 PM
I suggest 5 bat + 1 wk + 1 allro + 2 spinners + 2 fast/medium

Allro being medium pace

I think this is fine.

But 2 spinners required Plumji? Sanath, Sachin, (most proly) AD Silva and if not Hooper are already there.
Fair enough.

So, what do we want to finalise - One spinner Plus 2 all rounders Plus 2 Pacers/Medium Pacers or One spinner Plus 3 Medium Pacers/Pacers plus one allrounder?

Riyazz
18th November 2010, 03:55 PM
4 bat +2 ar+1 wk +2 spin+ 2 fast

Plum
18th November 2010, 03:55 PM
i still dont understand what is unanimous here - there would be atleast 2-3 people who have choice other than tendulkar for opener slot.... eppidi kaNakku pOttAlum varaadhungaLE

adhai yedhukku waste-A oru poll-ai vachukkuttunnu dhaan vaikkalai.
sari adhaiyum dhAn vechu pArthuduvOmE. Sehwag/Gangulykku few votes vizhum.

19thmay
18th November 2010, 03:55 PM
Sudhir I dont think that you are that sensitive. :confused2:

We welcome all questions and concerns, easily!

Sachin was selected without any poll because you know Sachin's fan strength in this forum and the poll would be a waste of time for all. What is the purpose when the result of poll is something like 25 for Sachin : 2?

MADDY
18th November 2010, 03:57 PM
Repeat - polls ellAm sufficient time koduthu, opportunity koduthu, stats ellAm filter paNNi ungaLukku vasadhiyA eduthu pOttu, we have given every opp for a fair poll. Only Sachin was chosen unanimously - adhukkum poll vENumna vechu pArthuralAm.

Idhukku mEla nambikkai illainA nIngaLE yArAvadhu eduthu paNNunga

i still dont understand what is unanimous here - there would be atleast 2-3 people who have choice other than tendulkar for opener slot....

all questions directed at selection process neednt be taken personally because they are not intented to be so......

We dont like to waste the time of 2-3 people. Vice versa too!

understood - initiative eduthhu panreenga, congrats........idhukku mela naa odhingikkren

19thmay
18th November 2010, 03:58 PM
Plumji

One spinner Plus 3 Medium Pacers/Pacers plus one allrounder

this will be fine.

Maniraj
18th November 2010, 04:00 PM
4 bat +2 ar+1 wk +2 spin+ 2 fast


:wave:

Plum
18th November 2010, 04:00 PM
4 bat +2 ar+1 wk +2 spin+ 2 fast
We have already gone with 5 batsmen.
So suggest anything that includes 5 Batsmen

1. 5 Bat + 2 AR + 1 WK + 1 Sp + 2 P/MP
2. 5 Bat + 1 AR + 1 WK + 1 Sp + 3 P/MP
3. 5 Bat + 1 AR + 1 WK + 2 Sp + 2 P/MP

(assuming all ARs are medium pacers. Plus Aravinda, Sachin and Jayasurya are already there as parttime spinners.)

Riyazz
18th November 2010, 04:02 PM
4 bat +2 ar+1 wk +2 spin+ 2 fast


:wave: :huh:

MADDY
18th November 2010, 04:04 PM
Sudhir I dont think that you are that sensitive. :confused2:

i thought u meant, im wasting ur time - thats y........anyways, got it now.........sensitive - hmm, probably :D


Sachin was selected without any poll because you know Sachin's fan strength in this forum and the poll would be a waste of time for all. What is the purpose when the result of poll is something like 25 for Sachin : 2?

i was just looking for the criteria - whether it was greatness etc because in that case wasim akram with 500+ wickets demands automatic entry into the team as well......ok, now i get the basis for "unanimous" selection for sachin - as i said, i dont like to spoil the fun anymore

Puliyan_Biryani
18th November 2010, 04:04 PM
Plum, I vote for 2nd option. 1 good all-rounder is more than enough if we pick 4 good wicket-taking bowlers. And there are also some handy part-timers to fill in.

Riyazz
18th November 2010, 04:04 PM
4 bat +2 ar+1 wk +2 spin+ 2 fast
We have already gone with 5 batsmen.
So suggest anything that includes 5 Batsmen

1. 5 Bat + 2 AR + 1 WK + 1 Sp + 2 P/MP
2. 5 Bat + 1 AR + 1 WK + 1 Sp + 3 P/MP
3. 5 Bat + 1 AR + 1 WK + 2 Sp + 2 P/MP

(assuming all ARs are medium pacers. Plus Aravinda, Sachin and Jayasurya are already there as parttime spinners.) my option 3 one...

Maniraj
18th November 2010, 04:05 PM
1. 5 Bat + 2 AR + 1 WK + 1 Sp + 2 P/MP

Plum
18th November 2010, 04:09 PM
4 bat +2 ar+1 wk +2 spin+ 2 fast
We have already gone with 5 batsmen.
So suggest anything that includes 5 Batsmen

1. 5 Bat + 2 AR + 1 WK + 1 Sp + 2 P/MP
2. 5 Bat + 1 AR + 1 WK + 1 Sp + 3 P/MP
3. 5 Bat + 1 AR + 1 WK + 2 Sp + 2 P/MP

(assuming all ARs are medium pacers. Plus Aravinda, Sachin and Jayasurya are already there as parttime spinners.)

So far..
1. 5 Bat + 2 AR + 1 WK + 1 Sp + 2 P/MP - 1 Vote
2. 5 Bat + 1 AR + 1 WK + 1 Sp + 3 P/MP - 2 Votes
3. 5 Bat + 1 AR + 1 WK + 2 Sp + 2 P/MP - 1 Vote

19thmay
18th November 2010, 04:10 PM
Sudhir innum bowling department ullara varave illaye. Free ticket yaar yaaruku kodukalaamnu appo vandhu pesungalen? Adha vittutu pichitu poradhulaye irrukeenga?

Tell me openly that this poll is conducted by Sachin fans and I dont trust that.

MADDY
18th November 2010, 04:13 PM
Tell me openly that this poll is conducted by Sachin fans and I dont trust that.

appadi ellam illave illa - neenga dhaan imagine panreenga.........if i dont care, i wouldnt have asked my doubts also, right :)

littlemaster1982
18th November 2010, 04:14 PM
i still dont understand what is unanimous here - there would be atleast 2-3 people who have choice other than tendulkar for opener slot....

all questions directed at selection process neednt be taken personally because they are not intented to be so......

Why Sachin should not be a unanimous choice? You mean to say there are two better openers than Sachin in ODIs?

raajarasigan
18th November 2010, 04:14 PM
4 bat +2 ar+1 wk +2 spin+ 2 fast
We have already gone with 5 batsmen.
So suggest anything that includes 5 Batsmen

1. 5 Bat + 2 AR + 1 WK + 1 Sp + 2 P/MP
2. 5 Bat + 1 AR + 1 WK + 1 Sp + 3 P/MP
3. 5 Bat + 1 AR + 1 WK + 2 Sp + 2 P/MP

(assuming all ARs are medium pacers. Plus Aravinda, Sachin and Jayasurya are already there as parttime spinners.)this is fine

MADDY
18th November 2010, 04:22 PM
Why Sachin should not be a unanimous choice? You mean to say there are two better openers than Sachin in ODIs?

in that way, there cannot be a better opening bowler than Akram - will he be made a unanimous choice without polls?

littlemaster1982
18th November 2010, 04:26 PM
No, I want a straight answer.

P.S: I have nothing against Akram, so I won't be having any problems if he is an unanimous choice.

Plum
18th November 2010, 04:27 PM
Akram mEla fixing kuRRachAttu niroobikka pattadhAl, avarai poll vechu dhAn sErthukkuvOm :-)
(agni pravesam mandatory)

Poll officer kadamai, #1 slotkum poll pOttAchu. No Unanmious choices anymore.

19thmay
18th November 2010, 04:28 PM
Maddy,

Naan erkanave solliten. Bowlers poll aarambikum podhu we can discuss that-nu. Lets talk about opening batsman.

MADDY
18th November 2010, 04:30 PM
No, I want a straight answer

no, there are no better openers than sachin IMO too but giving him a "unopposed selection" was taking for granted everyone's opinion

Riyazz
18th November 2010, 04:32 PM
ennala than ippa prachana start airucho....

littlemaster1982
18th November 2010, 04:45 PM
No, I want a straight answer

no, there are no better openers than sachin IMO too but giving him a "unopposed selection" was taking for granted everyone's opinion

It's not taking anyone for granted. There's a second openers slot for those who want to vote for other than Sachin. If some one wants to open for two opening batsmen other than Sachin, then they are not following cricket properly.

Riyazz
18th November 2010, 04:48 PM
No, I want a straight answer

no, there are no better openers than sachin IMO too but giving him a "unopposed selection" was taking for granted everyone's opinion

It's not taking anyone for granted. There's a second openers slot for those who want to vote for other than Sachin. If some one wants to open for two opening batsmen other than Sachin, then they are not following cricket properly. :huh: all have differant opinions n tastes .... this is not good....

Maniraj
18th November 2010, 04:51 PM
:notthatway: Riyazz...

LM is not trying to say like what u have understood :D

Sachin is automatic choice or default choice..

I am not sure what Maddy is looking for :sad:

littlemaster1982
18th November 2010, 04:52 PM
Riyazz,

It's not about taste or opinion. You may not like Sachin or don't want to vote for him, that's your personal choice. But you cannot disagree that he is the no.1 ODI batsman (opener, to be precise). This poll is an exercise of picking the best in each position, as simple as that.

Riyazz
18th November 2010, 04:54 PM
oh k....

19thmay
18th November 2010, 04:57 PM
Naanellam ICC ranking-laye avaru irruka koodadhunu nenaikiren.

Plum
18th November 2010, 04:58 PM
LM, Dont deny your logic. But oru vazhakkunnu vandhappuram, oru agni pravesham paNNi dhAn kAmichiruvOmE

littlemaster1982
18th November 2010, 05:01 PM
Plum,

You have already started the poll, but I feel that's pointless. When it comes to opening in ODIs, no one comes near to Sachin. Why should we need a poll for something obvious?

MADDY
18th November 2010, 05:09 PM
:notthatway: Riyazz...

LM is not trying to say like what u have understood :D

Sachin is automatic choice or default choice..

I am not sure what Maddy is looking for :sad:

yaarukku?

yen sachin no.4 kooda dhaan aadunaaru - some people might feel putting him in no.4 and open with sehwag & gilchrist? sachin illainnu sonna avanukke cricket-e theriyaadhunnu solradhellam romba over.........

MADDY
18th November 2010, 05:13 PM
If some one wants to open for two opening batsmen other than Sachin, then they are not following cricket properly.

can i say the same if bevan or Akram are not picked??? why "only" sachin gets the "cushion" of unopposed election is my point

ellame, stats, records and "cricket playing experience" vechittu, "i feel he is the best"-ngra basis-la pick pannitte poittrukalaame?? yen polls vekkanum?

Maniraj
18th November 2010, 05:19 PM
:notthatway: Riyazz...

LM is not trying to say like what u have understood :D

Sachin is automatic choice or default choice..

I am not sure what Maddy is looking for :sad:

yaarukku?

yen sachin no.4 kooda dhaan aadunaaru - some people might feel putting him in no.4 and open with sehwag & gilchrist?

I dont think Sachin played long in No.4 postion.And also his record speaks for my comment as automatic choice


sachin illainnu sonna avanukke cricket-e theriyaadhunnu solradhellam romba over.........

No comments. (But Sachin is said to be the God of Cricket :D (Most ppl agree that))

littlemaster1982
18th November 2010, 05:19 PM
yen sachin no.4 kooda dhaan aadunaaru - some people might feel putting him in no.4 and open with sehwag & gilchrist? sachin illainnu sonna avanukke cricket-e theriyaadhunnu solradhellam romba over.........

Chapell thought so too and we paid heavy price for that. Why would you make a succesful opener to bat at no.4? How is Sehwag and Gilchrist is a better pair than Sachin and Gilchrist?

And I still stand by what I said earlier. No one can question Sachin's place as an opener.

Plum
18th November 2010, 05:21 PM
ippOvE ivLO saNdai. innum wicketkeeper position varachE enna AgumO?

littlemaster1982
18th November 2010, 05:22 PM
If some one wants to open for two opening batsmen other than Sachin, then they are not following cricket properly.

can i say the same if bevan or Akram are not picked??? why "only" sachin gets the "cushion" of unopposed election is my point

Sridhar already said we would talk about Akram when there is a poll about bowlers.


ellame, stats, records and "cricket playing experience" vechittu, "i feel he is the best"-ngra basis-la pick pannitte poittrukalaame?? yen polls vekkanum?

Sachin is not just about stats and records. Statistics just prove why he is considered as best. Not the other way round.

Riyazz
18th November 2010, 05:25 PM
k lm

Plum
18th November 2010, 05:28 PM
Maddy, more than anyone else, Sachin stands out in his position. Agree/Disagree?

This was the basis of my choice not to have a poll earlier.

"Every rule has an exception. The exception proves the rule". idhu kELvi pattirukkIngaLA?
adhu oru philosophical school of thought :-)

nInga eppOvumE indha exceptionai eduthukittu rule disproved-nu solRinga. adhu oru karuththu ofcourse but it is also accepted wisdom that in some cases, the exceptions prove the rule. I hope someone can articulate this better.

MADDY
18th November 2010, 05:43 PM
Maddy, more than anyone else, Sachin stands out in his position. Agree/Disagree?

batting - agree but entire team-nnu paatha, i cant imagine anyone else at no.6 too other than bevan who will lose the poll anyways.......and Akram & warne are equal achievers/talent......


"Every rule has an exception. The exception proves the rule". idhu kELvi pattirukkIngaLA?
adhu oru philosophical school of thought :-)

nInga eppOvumE indha exceptionai eduthukittu rule disproved-nu solRinga. adhu oru karuththu ofcourse but it is also accepted wisdom that in some cases, the exceptions prove the rule. I hope someone can articulate this better.

edhu exception, edhu rule-nnu yaaru decide pannuva - adhu dhaan matter.......to simplify in jaiganes's terms:

Rule: we need a poll to select winner
Exception: Sachin should not be in polls

now u tell me, who is arguing for rule and who is arguing for exception :)

Dhakshan
18th November 2010, 06:04 PM
We have already gone with 5 batsmen.
So suggest anything that includes 5 Batsmen

1. 5 Bat + 2 AR + 1 WK + 1 Sp + 2 P/MP
2. 5 Bat + 1 AR + 1 WK + 1 Sp + 3 P/MP
3. 5 Bat + 1 AR + 1 WK + 2 Sp + 2 P/MP

(assuming all ARs are medium pacers. Plus Aravinda, Sachin and Jayasurya are already there as parttime spinners.)

My vote for 2nd choice.. Modhalla idhuku oru poll vechurukalaam...

P_R
18th November 2010, 06:48 PM
poll vachuttA pOvudhu
But even one vote prefering someone else to Sachin won't make sense to me.

But even as an Akram fan, I wouldn't say the same if someone voted against him.

Puliyan_Biryani
18th November 2010, 07:13 PM
poll vachuttA pOvudhu
But even one vote prefering someone else to Sachin won't make sense to me.

But even as an Akram fan, I wouldn't say the same if someone voted against him.
+1 on both points. But idhai sonnaa, 'appadi vote panravangalukku sense illaiyaa'nu oru kutrachaattu varalaam :shaking:.

Dinesh84
18th November 2010, 07:14 PM
vachutAlae!

P_R
18th November 2010, 07:30 PM
poll vachuttA pOvudhu
But even one vote prefering someone else to Sachin won't make sense to me.

But even as an Akram fan, I wouldn't say the same if someone voted against him.
+1 on both points. But idhai sonnaa, 'appadi vote panravangalukku sense illaiyaa'nu oru kutrachaattu varalaam :shaking:.

அதுக்கு தான் பணிவெண்புடன், 'doesn't make sense to me' னு சொல்லிருக்கேன் :-)

Puliyan_Biryani
18th November 2010, 09:31 PM
பணிவெண்புடன்
:lol:

ajithfederer
18th November 2010, 09:53 PM
Maddy

Indha panjayathai ninga opener slot pathi pesum podhu vandhu sachinkkum serthu poll veikkanumnu sollirukanum. 5th position pathi pesum podhu vandhu pesaradhu nalla illa.

Gilchrist was my favorite opener but he wasn't selected. Idhukaaga naanga ellam ukkarndhu dharna panroma ? :huh:

ajithfederer
18th November 2010, 10:01 PM
WK ellam gilchrist mattum dhan main Nomination. Boucher is second.

ippOvE ivLO saNdai. innum wicketkeeper position varachE enna AgumO?

Sourav
18th November 2010, 10:03 PM
i nominate yuvraj,

Dhakshan
18th November 2010, 10:13 PM
WK ellam gilchrist mattum dhan main Nomination. Boucher is second.

ippOvE ivLO saNdai. innum wicketkeeper position varachE enna AgumO?

:lol2: Idhukum oru sandai iruku.. Kittathatta ippove start pannitinga...

Dhakshan
18th November 2010, 10:14 PM
i nominate yuvraj,

U can nominate 3(max)...

HonestRaj
18th November 2010, 11:56 PM
WK ellam gilchrist mattum dhan main Nomination. Boucher is second.

ippOvE ivLO saNdai. innum wicketkeeper position varachE enna AgumO?

:lol2: Idhukum oru sandai iruku.. Kittathatta ippove start pannitinga...

:lol:

adhukku Vijay Dahiya'va nominate pannalamnu irukken :lol2:

Vivasaayi
19th November 2010, 08:26 AM
plum,

at your gilli "quote".. :lol:

gilliya openera select panadhadhukku karaname..he can come in as number 7..as a eicket keeper batsman... :)

MADDY
19th November 2010, 08:49 AM
WK ellam gilchrist mattum dhan main Nomination. Boucher is second.

ippOvE ivLO saNdai. innum wicketkeeper position varachE enna AgumO?

:lol2: Idhukum oru sandai iruku.. Kittathatta ippove start pannitinga...

no worries - even i wont nominate Dhoni

a) thevayum illa
b) ore bissssy

Sourav
19th November 2010, 08:52 AM
i nominate yuvraj,

U can nominate 3(max)...
ok, then...
1.yuvi
2.inzi
3.beven

yuvi - personal fav, can tear-apart the bowling attacks wen he is in great nick,
inzi - slow-a start panni singles-a eduthu slog overs-la adichu thuvamsam pannuvaru.
beven - great odi player, play very well in pressure situations...

MADDY
19th November 2010, 08:54 AM
Maddy

Indha panjayathai ninga opener slot pathi pesum podhu vandhu sachinkkum serthu poll veikkanumnu sollirukanum. 5th position pathi pesum podhu vandhu pesaradhu nalla illa.

Gilchrist was my favorite opener but he wasn't selected. Idhukaaga naanga ellam ukkarndhu dharna panroma ? :huh:

it occured to me yesterday only - as riyazz or someone had said, initially we thought it was selecting best pair for sachin but after 3-4 polls, i realised all great players were put through polls except for sachin - so i just needed to know the reason for it...........ofcourse, it ballooned into a big debate.....

Plum
19th November 2010, 08:54 AM
Maddy, do you think Dhoni has already surpassed gilchrist as an all-time choice for wicketkeeper-batsman?
I mean, obviously as dhoni fan, one would choose him over gilchrist but if you purely apply ability, records, proven matchwinning skills?

MADDY
19th November 2010, 09:00 AM
Maddy, do you think Dhoni has already surpassed gilchrist as an all-time choice for wicketkeeper-batsman?
I mean, obviously as dhoni fan, one would choose him over gilchrist but if you purely apply ability, records, proven matchwinning skills?

Dhoni as a great captain gives him the edge but yea gilchrist is legendary stuff........

littlemaster1982
19th November 2010, 09:07 AM
i nominate yuvraj,

U can nominate 3(max)...
ok, then...
1.yuvi
2.inzi
3.beven

yuvi - personal fav, can tear-apart the bowling attacks wen he is in great nick,
inzi - slow-a start panni singles-a eduthu slog overs-la adichu thuvamsam pannuvaru.
beven - great odi player, play very well in pressure situations...

I think Bevan is an automatic choice for No.6. Nobody plays better than him at that position. For No.5 my choices are Yuvraj and Inzamam. Inzamam had this knack of switching to top gear before you realize. Can't think of anyone else for No.5.

Riyazz
19th November 2010, 09:07 AM
:yes: gilchrist is all time favourite wk........ dhoni is a best captain.. but in wk wise not a best..........

Plum
19th November 2010, 09:10 AM
nyaayamAna pEchu. Gilchrist is almost an automatic choice for wk-bat, if not for #7 not being his normal position in ODIs and the presence of Andy Flower, Dhoni etc as contenders. Even then, their record pales before Gilly and only the position being #7 prevents him from being an unopposed candidate, i think.

Sourav
19th November 2010, 09:12 AM
i nominate yuvraj,

U can nominate 3(max)...
ok, then...
1.yuvi
2.inzi
3.beven

yuvi - personal fav, can tear-apart the bowling attacks wen he is in great nick,
inzi - slow-a start panni singles-a eduthu slog overs-la adichu thuvamsam pannuvaru.
beven - great odi player, play very well in pressure situations...

I think Bevan is an automatic choice for No.6. Nobody plays better than him at that position. For No.5 my choices are Yuvraj and Inzamam. Inzamam had this knack of switching to top gear before you realize. Can't think of anyone else for No.5.
ok, so i will nominate beven for no-6 wen that comes.

sridhar, i nominate only 2 for no-5.
1.yuvi
2.inzi.

happy to see few nominations 4 yuvi. he deserves. wer is ajay. avar irunthalum nominate pannuvaru....rajarasigan?

Puliyan_Biryani
19th November 2010, 09:17 AM
To everybody who is not nominating Bevan as he is an ideal No. 6. There is only one slot left for a batsman. After No. 5, it is going to be WK and ll-rounder. So please think again.

My nomination
Michael Bevan - Tempo ellaam vachu kadathirukkaaru, konjam paathu pottu kudunga.

Plum
19th November 2010, 09:17 AM
ellOrum sErndhu yuvan-ai jeyikka vechuruvInga pOlirukku? :shock:
(Arghh...yuvan-nu sonnadhAla, viraajan vERa vandhu yuvi-kku oru vote kuththittu pOyiduvaar :oops: )

MADDY
19th November 2010, 09:17 AM
:yes: gilchrist is all time favourite wk........ dhoni is a best captain.. but in wk wise not a best..........

:exactly:

i dont think this team can have a captain separately - hence Dhoni is not at all reqd....... :)

Riyazz
19th November 2010, 09:20 AM
ellOrum sErndhu yuvan-ai jeyikka vechuruvInga pOlirukku? :shock:
(Arghh...yuvan-nu sonnadhAla, viraajan vERa vandhu yuvi-kku oru vote kuththittu pOyiduvaar :oops: ) :lol: idula kuda oru kudukalam ungaluku...........

Plum
19th November 2010, 09:22 AM
I find it quite unnecessary to nominate Bevan as his S/R is 69, and it seems to me he made a reputation out of salvaging situations where a lot of overs were left for a smaller reqd r/r, and used his patience to score at a slow rate and win the match. A significant skill, ofcourse but not worthy of being in the company of sachin, lara et al in the same team. Do you need Bevan to salvage this team?

The Strike rate 69 is the clearest indicator of this.

Sourav
19th November 2010, 09:24 AM
To everybody who is not nominating Bevan as he is an ideal No. 6. There is only one slot left for a batsman. After No. 5, it is going to be WK and ll-rounder. So please think again.

wats the combo?
4 bat
2 all
1 wk
4 bowl?
right?
1.sachin-bat
2.j.surya-all
3.lara-bat
4.de silva-all

already 2 all-rounder selected.... de-sil comes under all-rounder category? right?

Riyazz
19th November 2010, 09:26 AM
To everybody who is not nominating Bevan as he is an ideal No. 6. There is only one slot left for a batsman. After No. 5, it is going to be WK and ll-rounder. So please think again.

wats the combo?
4 bat
2 all
1 wk
4 bowl?
right?
1.sachin-bat
2.j.surya-all
3.lara-bat
4.de silva-all

already 2 all-rounder selected.... de-sil comes under all-rounder category? right? de silva all roundera ?? :think:

Sourav
19th November 2010, 09:28 AM
ella matches-um 10 overs fulla poduvare... :roll:

Riyazz
19th November 2010, 09:31 AM
ella matches-um 10 overs fulla poduvare... :roll: :huh: appadi terialiea yaravadhu conform pannunga........

Puliyan_Biryani
19th November 2010, 09:33 AM
Plum, Bevan's strike rate is due to a few things.

1) The team he played for (I mean Slater and Taylor opening :banghead:). He was left to salvage bad starts most of the times.
2) The quality of the opposition.
3) Quality of pitches he played most. Aussie pitches of those days aren't really 300+ pitches.
4) 230-240 was considered a match-winning total those days. So strike rates-la konjam leeway kodukkalaam.

Also, look at his performance in tough pitches. The match against England in 2003 world cup was a classic example. He looked totally unperturbed when all the other batsmen were struggling (except Bichel who was living the day of his life :D).

littlemaster1982
19th November 2010, 09:34 AM
I find it quite unnecessary to nominate Bevan as his S/R is 69, and it seems to me he made a reputation out of salvaging situations where a lot of overs were left for a smaller reqd r/r, and used his patience to score at a slow rate and win the match. A significant skill, ofcourse but not worthy of being in the company of sachin, lara et al in the same team. Do you need Bevan to salvage this team?

The Strike rate 69 is the clearest indicator of this.

Plum, you never know. A line up consisting of Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Sachin was blown up by a not so great bowler just recently :P Bevan was never known as a hitter/slogger, but he gets the job done. I can't even think of anyone else in the place of Bevan at 6.

Puliyan_Biryani
19th November 2010, 09:36 AM
Jayasuriya and De Silva are not all-rounders here. Fantasy game-na all-rounder aakkiruppom :D.

Riyazz
19th November 2010, 09:42 AM
Jayasuriya and De Silva are not all-rounders here. Fantasy game-na all-rounder aakkiruppom :D. :lol:

Vivasaayi
19th November 2010, 09:46 AM
:yes: gilchrist is all time favourite wk........ dhoni is a best captain.. but in wk wise not a best..........

:exactly:

i dont think this team can have a captain separately - hence Dhoni is not at all reqd....... :)

Apdi captain thaniya thevainaalum..I think there are better candidates post 90 to be selected specifically for captainship..illaya?

Vivasaayi
19th November 2010, 09:50 AM
I find it quite unnecessary to nominate Bevan as his S/R is 69, and it seems to me he made a reputation out of salvaging situations where a lot of overs were left for a smaller reqd r/r, and used his patience to score at a slow rate and win the match. A significant skill, ofcourse but not worthy of being in the company of sachin, lara et al in the same team. Do you need Bevan to salvage this team?

The Strike rate 69 is the clearest indicator of this.

Plum, you never know. A line up consisting of Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Sachin was blown up by a not so great bowler just recently :P Bevan was never known as a hitter/slogger, but he gets the job done. I can't even think of anyone else in the place of Bevan at 6.

LM,

Inzi/aravindha have always been the leader of their batting line up. I think they can do whatever bevan can do and even better...if they have to play bevans role in this team - consolidation, with better strike rate.

So I think a person like Steve waugh - a solid captain , followed by gilli would suit this team better.

Sourav
19th November 2010, 09:51 AM
plum,sridhar... test XI eppo?

Plum
19th November 2010, 09:57 AM
When we started odi XI, thambi sridhar wanted to get it complete in a week. nAn dhAn idhai vechu 2010 muzhusA OttidalAmnu idea koduthEn ;-)

Basically, Edhum match nadakkAdha pOdhu indha threads activeA irukku. Let it go at its own pace. idhu appO mudiyudhO appO test XI

19thmay
19th November 2010, 10:28 AM
Plumji test-la #4th spot reserved thaane?

Riyazz
19th November 2010, 10:30 AM
Plumji test-la #4th spot reserved thaane? yaruku....... :huh:

ajithfederer
19th November 2010, 10:35 AM
Why do u even bother?, We were in Bradman's XI.

Plumji test-la #4th spot reserved thaane?

littlemaster1982
19th November 2010, 10:44 AM
I find it quite unnecessary to nominate Bevan as his S/R is 69, and it seems to me he made a reputation out of salvaging situations where a lot of overs were left for a smaller reqd r/r, and used his patience to score at a slow rate and win the match. A significant skill, ofcourse but not worthy of being in the company of sachin, lara et al in the same team. Do you need Bevan to salvage this team?

The Strike rate 69 is the clearest indicator of this.

Plum, you never know. A line up consisting of Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Sachin was blown up by a not so great bowler just recently :P Bevan was never known as a hitter/slogger, but he gets the job done. I can't even think of anyone else in the place of Bevan at 6.

LM,

Inzi/aravindha have always been the leader of their batting line up. I think they can do whatever bevan can do and even better...if they have to play bevans role in this team - consolidation, with better strike rate.


Inzamam and Aravinda haven't played at 6 much, right? It's a specialist position and I feel Bevan is more than a specialist. Honestly I don't see Aravinda or Inzi doing this (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65624.html). No disrespect meant to Aravinda/Inzi.

ajithfederer
19th November 2010, 10:51 AM
Plum, Nomination withdrawn. Ini eva vayasukku vandha enna varatti enna!!

Add my nomination for steve waugh for #5.

Second nomination will be filed soon.

You can start nominate #5 player.

Nomination upper limit edhavadhu vachukuvoma? :roll:

So far...

Inzamam ( GP, Maniraj, Plum, Vivasayi, P_R)

S.Waugh ( P_R, Maniraj, Riyaz, GP)

Ranatunga (Plum, Maniraj, Riyaz)

Rhodes (Plum, GP)

Cronje (P_R)

Bevan ( Riyazz)

Plum
19th November 2010, 10:54 AM
En? PaduthAdheengappA.
Poll summA jollykAga dhaan. SaNdai ellAm poikA poikA pOdalAm. No serious!

ajithfederer
19th November 2010, 11:16 AM
No Plum. The issue has certainly gone out of hands and it has left a bad taste in one's mouth.

While I agree that there is nobody above the system there is a certain way to approach things. People could have made a request to conduct a poll with Tendulkar included for opener slot or should have just remained silent. One thing to note here is That is why I said to Maddy that his timing was wrong but not his question.

Main Thread (http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=14045&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0). The main thread was started in March and it went 25 pages. It's November now. Now making an issue out of it is certainly not worth discussing. Sorry to say this but I find it very very bad. Subsequent arguments have been pointless. And it's useless to be a part of this futile exercise.

Bradman XI-laye vandhutom, aama idhu enna biskothu 11 :wave:.

ajithfederer
19th November 2010, 11:20 AM
Sridar/plum (I said this on the first day itself)

Sorry to say this but this why I said we will just get the entire damn team from all the hubbers and get done with it. This process would have been much simpler and would have avoided so many embarrassments.

Theru izhuthu nadutheruvula vittadhu dhan micham.


Plum, You have done a thankless job till now. I wholeheartedly respect you for all the efforts you have put till now. But don't waste your time/energy in future for such things. :wave:

Ramakrishna
19th November 2010, 11:21 AM
enna aachunu neenga ippo ivlo tension aagareenga

Plum
19th November 2010, 11:29 AM
:cry: :(
We are better than that, aren't we?

Opinions differ. Indisputable fact also can be questioned by opinion. This is inevitable.

Light teeskONdi boss.

Suppose you want to choose the most succesful MD after 1991, do we need a poll for it? idhu fact. But as an IR fan, I can redefine success, and say, Successna enna Oscar award mattumA? Commercial success mattumA? Quality mattum vechu pArthA etc. idhu opinion questioning fact.

nammaLum, pOllE kUdAdhunnu adam pidikka thEvai illai enbadhu en karuththu.

People will always express their opinions - sometimes mutedly, sometimes vocally, sometimes unfairly, sometimes with a mischievous intent.

I understand that for you, Sachin is more important than an idle poll. So, do feel free to keep away from this frivolous exercise. adhula endha thappum illai.

As for the poll, the idea is to provoke discussions. 10 post my daddy strongernu vandhAlum, 2 posts are coming talking about specific matches, instances leading to some memories. andha oru reasonukkAga, I am inclined to continue this exercise.
(The Bevan match LM linked, I remember seeing it from 82/6 to 248/8. Can remember many moments from the match instantly.)

chattu puttunnu oru XI pOttuttu pOyittA idhellAm miss AyidumE

raajarasigan
19th November 2010, 11:36 AM
Plum :thumbsup: I would like to see this Best ODI team moving on...

AF,

Sachin'kku poll vechadhellam en neenga insulta eduthukereenga... :(

P_R
19th November 2010, 11:44 AM
enna aachunu neenga ippo ivlo tension aagareenga Yeah. Feddy, ippo edhukku ivvaLO tensan.

Steve vA for nember 5.
Steve vA for captain.

yaaruppA de Silva, Jayasuriya bowling-ai kostin paNradhu.

de Silva is a pretty good part-time bowlers. Intelligentelly, tricking the batsmen into a mistake etc. I would say de Silva is on par with Sachin if not an edge better.

With the exception of Vettori, Jayasuriya was the best left arm spinner in cricket. thavakkaLai Adams, Sangadabadhi, Giles all two steps back ya.

P_R
19th November 2010, 11:45 AM
Avoid meesic analogies to prevent fossible raNakaLam.

ajithfederer
19th November 2010, 11:46 AM
No. I am not against Poll. It is just that when one thing has been decided and moved on and it has been some time since that happened, make a rewind and come back halfway through and question why there was no poll?.

When people can ask why no poll for Tendulkar, I can ask them why didn't you ask that question in the first place?. As simple as that. This is making a mockery out of the entire process that has happened so far. I am not game for such questions/discussions.

Plum
19th November 2010, 11:47 AM
Enga, musical analogyla enga side-ai dhAnenga vittu koduthEn? I'll manage them(good thing is most of them dont come here :lol:). idhukku kUdavA raNagaLam varum?

MADDY
19th November 2010, 11:51 AM
Avoid meesic analogies to prevent fossible raNakaLam.

innum lighta sollunga, yaarakkavadhu kaadhu valikka pogudhu :P

MADDY
19th November 2010, 11:56 AM
No. I am not against Poll. It is just that when one thing has been decided and moved on and it has been some time since that happened, make a rewind and come back halfway through and question why there was no poll?.

When people can ask why no poll for Tendulkar, I can ask them why didn't you ask that question in the first place?. As simple as that. This is making a mockery out of the entire process that has happened so far. I am not game for such questions/discussions.

i dont get the logic at all - why cant someone appeal after sometime? how does it tantamount to mocking the process?

ajithfederer
19th November 2010, 12:02 PM
It is definitely making a mockery of the process. When people have started discussing about positions 2-5 you sit quiet and now come and ask why there was no poll. It is questioning the integrity of everybody who has taken efforts to do this exercise here. That thread was there for 8 months.

I throw a similar question at u.

I have a doubt and I think you waited all this time just to sling mud at Tendulkar as you have time and again done very effectively. Tell me one good reason why I should not ask this question to you.

P_R
19th November 2010, 12:05 PM
Feddy, to be fair to MADDY, he asked this question much earlier. It has risen to a crescendo now that's all.

Vivasaayi
19th November 2010, 12:06 PM
Inzamam and Aravinda haven't played at 6 much, right? It's a specialist position and I feel Bevan is more than a specialist. Honestly I don't see Aravinda or Inzi doing this (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65624.html). No disrespect meant to Aravinda/Inzi.

Thats what I mean..If situation requires them(Aravinda/Inzi) to steady the innings - they can do..especially Inzi. The steadying the ship activity would be done in the middle order(no 4 and no 5) itself.There is no requirement of Bevan at 6-ngreen.

Number of 4 and 5 are good in playing according to the situation and class acts...why do we need to hire number 6 for the same work?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/64880.html

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/64487.html

samples :)

ajithfederer
19th November 2010, 12:06 PM
Not enough P_R

when people want a fair process shout it out when it starts and not while its in the middle.

MADDY
19th November 2010, 12:11 PM
It is definitely making a mockery of the process. When people have started discussing about positions 2-5 you sit quiet and now come and ask why there was no poll. It is questioning the integrity of everybody who has taken efforts to do this exercise here. That thread was there for 8 months.

I throw a similar question at u.

I have a doubt and I think you waited all this time just to sling mud at Tendulkar as you have time and again done very effectively. Tell me one good reason why I should not ask this question to you.

no feddy, i have clearly said its just abt "process" and not abt sridhar or plum and i accepted they didnt have any intentions in selecting sachin unanimously..........if people still want to interpret my questions as personal/integrity etc - i feel this tantamounts to questioning my integrity......

why did i have to wait - i could have slung mud right away - isnt it?? to me timing is irrelevant, really........

P_R
19th November 2010, 12:12 PM
Feddy, as I recall he had made the point earlier. Not much attention was paid to it because (possibly) most of those in the thread it is a moot point. But he seems to feel strongly about the process. Poll-um vechAchchu.

For the life of me, I can't understand how anyone would prefer someone else other than Sachin for opening in ODIs.

But I'd suggest taking things at face value and moving on. Second guessing intentions etc. never gets anywhere.

MADDY
19th November 2010, 12:12 PM
Not enough P_R

when people want a fair process shout it out when it starts and not while its in the middle.

why shouldnt we question in the middle - i still dont get the logic......court casesla kooda there is a time frame for appealing a judgement - thats the standard throughout the world

ajithfederer
19th November 2010, 12:19 PM
I'm not against Poll. As a hardcore tendulkar fan i am always for democracy. When people (Plum especially) has worked a lot in doing this, it is just the arbitrary questioning that I am not in agreement with.

To say more eloquently I find the questioning to be odd when they themselves are doing a service. An awkward moment so to say.

P_R
19th November 2010, 12:22 PM
Service-A?
Flau, aananda kaNNeer time.

Feddy, I repeat MADDY has been asking the question early. Number 2 slot-aiyE seekiram close paNNittOm avarukku oru idhu.

Plum
19th November 2010, 02:12 PM
Feddy, request you to drop the issue. nadandhadhu nadandhu pOchu.
I am also inclined not to take this seriously or second guessing intentions. Bottom line, let's keep the discussions, anecdotes, match recalls, remembrances, nostalgia going...I'd like more of the "When I woke up at 4AM on a margazhi early morning to watch the boxing day test" type of posts...
Service-nu ellAM vERA sollittInga. aNNanukku remba koochamA irukku :lol:

ini nadappavai nallavaiyA irukkattumgarEn

Frabhu Rau, yeah, :aanandha_kaNNeer:

Plum
19th November 2010, 02:21 PM
You guys have made it tough for me to browswe through and collect nominations :twisted:

ajithfederer
19th November 2010, 02:22 PM
Droppednga, Naanum maddyum andha threadla pesikittu dhan irundhom. :)

19thmay
19th November 2010, 02:22 PM
Plumji I will take care for which I want P_R to remove the digressions.

Plum
19th November 2010, 02:27 PM
adhu sari Feddy - ippO morning 5Am illai ungaLukku? Night outA?

P_R
19th November 2010, 02:28 PM
Ada, simply move on I say. idhenna avaikkuRippA, archives-ai nONdi padichuruvaanga-nnu neekkuradhukku.

Plum
19th November 2010, 02:30 PM
Feeyar, adhukkilla. To make it easier for us to collect nominations.

ajithfederer
19th November 2010, 02:30 PM
Yeah sort of. Weekend here.

P_R
19th November 2010, 02:49 PM
nilavaram thus far

Inzamam 9 ( GP, Maniraj, Plum, Vivasayi, P_R,Dhakshan,MovieCop, raajarasigan,Sourav)
S.Waugh 7 ( P_R, Maniraj, Riyaz, GP,Dhakshan,ajithfederer, steveaustin)
Cronje 4 (P_R,MovieCop Steveaustin,raajarasigan)
Ranatunga 3 (Plum, Maniraj, Riyaz)
Rhodes 3 (Plum, GP,Dhakshan)
Bevan 3 ( Riyazz,MovieCop,raajarasigan)
Jonty 1(Plum)
Symonds 1 (steveaustin)
Yuvraj 1(Sourav)


Dinesh you nominated 4 people, restrict your nomination to 3.

Sourav
19th November 2010, 02:52 PM
nilavaram thus far

Yuvraj 1(Sourav)
I think LM & Maddy also nominated yuvi... pls check.

Vivasaayi
19th November 2010, 02:53 PM
nilavaram thus far

Inzamam 9 ( GP, Maniraj, Plum, Vivasayi, P_R,Dhakshan,MovieCop, raajarasigan,Sourav)
S.Waugh 7 ( P_R, Maniraj, Riyaz, GP,Dhakshan,ajithfederer, steveaustin)
Cronje 4 (P_R,MovieCop Steveaustin,raajarasigan)
Ranatunga 3 (Plum, Maniraj, Riyaz)
Rhodes 3 (Plum, GP,Dhakshan)
Bevan 3 ( Riyazz,MovieCop,raajarasigan)
Jonty 1(Plum)
Symonds 1 (steveaustin)
Yuvraj 1(Sourav)


Dinesh you nominated 4 people, restrict your nomination to 3.

?

Dinesh84
19th November 2010, 02:55 PM
Edited my nominations :)

Hanuman Symonds
Saravana Bevan
Payum Puli Rodhes

Bala (Karthik)
19th November 2010, 02:56 PM
Steven Waugh

P_R
19th November 2010, 02:58 PM
nilavaram thus far

Inzamam 9 ( GP, Maniraj, Plum, Vivasayi, P_R,Dhakshan,MovieCop, raajarasigan,Sourav)
S.Waugh 7 ( P_R, Maniraj, Riyaz, GP,Dhakshan,ajithfederer, steveaustin)
Cronje 4 (P_R,MovieCop Steveaustin,raajarasigan)
Ranatunga 3 (Plum, Maniraj, Riyaz)
Rhodes 3 (Plum, GP,Dhakshan)
Bevan 3 ( Riyazz,MovieCop,raajarasigan,Dinesh)
Jonty 1(Plum,Dinesh)
Symonds 1 (steveaustin,Dinesh)
Yuvraj 1(Sourav)


Dinesh you nominated 4 people, restrict your nomination to 3.

MADDY, LM if you don't mind can you post your nominations again.

B(K) - wonly one nominationA. unnum reNdu pEr sollunga. ada summaa sollunga.

Puliyan_Biryani
19th November 2010, 03:01 PM
indha position-ku Inzi & Waugh, next position-ku Klusener-nu pala prachanai irukkum polaye. appo Michael Bevan vaazhkai :sigh2:? Tea kudikkalaamaa illai manu kudukkalaamaa :think:

sari sananaayaga kadamaiya seivom. My nominations
Michael Bevan
Inzamam
Rhodes

BTB, Steve Waugh ODI-la enna soup vachurukkaarunnu yaraachum konjam velakki sollunga (apart from the "Son you dropped the Waeld Cup") :D.

Ramakrishna
19th November 2010, 03:02 PM
Yuvraj,

Sourav
19th November 2010, 03:03 PM
i nominate yuvraj,

U can nominate 3(max)...
ok, then...
1.yuvi
2.inzi
3.beven

yuvi - personal fav, can tear-apart the bowling attacks wen he is in great nick,
inzi - slow-a start panni singles-a eduthu slog overs-la adichu thuvamsam pannuvaru.
beven - great odi player, play very well in pressure situations...

I think Bevan is an automatic choice for No.6. Nobody plays better than him at that position. For No.5 my choices are Yuvraj and Inzamam. Inzamam had this knack of switching to top gear before you realize. Can't think of anyone else for No.5.
i think its a nomination.
i couldn't find maddy's.

Sourav
19th November 2010, 03:04 PM
Yuvraj, :clap: :thumbsup:

Puliyan_Biryani
19th November 2010, 03:07 PM
Yuvraj Singh for no.5

i would like to know the criteria for selecting sachin tendulkar without a poll

I think, it was originally started with the intention of choosing a batting partner for Sachin Tendulkar. But, I may be wrong too. :P
ullaara post-la irukkaradhu Maddy-oda original nominasan. For some reason, he has edited out his nomination :wink: :yessir:.

P_R
19th November 2010, 03:09 PM
Updated:



Inzamam 11 ( GP, Maniraj, Plum, Vivasayi, P_R,Dhakshan,MovieCop, raajarasigan,Sourav,PB,LM)
S.Waugh 7 ( P_R, Maniraj, Riyaz, GP,Dhakshan,ajithfederer, steveaustin)
Bevan 5 ( Riyazz,MovieCop,raajarasigan,Dinesh,PB)
Rhodes 5 (Plum, GP,Dhakshan,Dinesh,PB))
Cronje 4 (P_R,MovieCop, Steveaustin,raajarasigan)
Yuvraj 4(Sourav,Ramakrishna,LM,MADDY)
Ranatunga 3 (Plum, Maniraj, Riyaz)
Symonds 2 (steveaustin,Dinesh)


I have not added in B(K)'s yet.

Flau/Sridhar back to you from here.

Puliyan_Biryani
19th November 2010, 03:11 PM
Rhodes 3 (Plum, GP,Dhakshan)
Jonty 2(Plum,Dinesh)
ivinga rendu perum relatives-a :lol2:

directhit
19th November 2010, 03:11 PM
Steven Waugh Manoharan :P

Sourav
19th November 2010, 03:14 PM
johnty rhodes should be in 3rd position,... 6 nominations totally.

Dinesh84
19th November 2010, 03:14 PM
Rhodes 3 (Plum, GP,Dhakshan)
Jonty 2(Plum,Dinesh)
ivinga rendu perum relatives-a :lol2: deleted post ellam eppadiya edukureenga? :roll:

P_R
19th November 2010, 03:16 PM
Edited and updated. :oops:


Updated:



Inzamam 11 ( GP, Maniraj, Plum, Vivasayi, P_R,Dhakshan,MovieCop, raajarasigan,Sourav,PB,LM)
S.Waugh 7 ( P_R, Maniraj, Riyaz, GP,Dhakshan,ajithfederer, steveaustin)
Bevan 5 ( Riyazz,MovieCop,raajarasigan,Dinesh,PB)
Rhodes 5 (Plum, GP,Dhakshan,Dinesh,PB))
Cronje 4 (P_R,MovieCop, Steveaustin,raajarasigan)
Yuvraj 4(Sourav,Ramakrishna,LM,MADDY)
Ranatunga 3 (Plum, Maniraj, Riyaz)
Symonds 2 (steveaustin,Dinesh)


I have not added in B(K)'s yet.

Flau/Sridhar back to you from here.

Sourav
19th November 2010, 03:16 PM
Rhodes 3 (Plum, GP,Dhakshan)
Jonty 2(Plum,Dinesh)
ivinga rendu perum relatives-a :lol2: deleted post ellam eppadiya edukureenga? :roll: :lol: rombha yosikatheenga.... neenga del pannathukku munnave quote pannirupparu...

MADDY
19th November 2010, 03:20 PM
i nominate yuvraj,

U can nominate 3(max)...
ok, then...
1.yuvi
2.inzi
3.beven

yuvi - personal fav, can tear-apart the bowling attacks wen he is in great nick,
inzi - slow-a start panni singles-a eduthu slog overs-la adichu thuvamsam pannuvaru.
beven - great odi player, play very well in pressure situations...

I think Bevan is an automatic choice for No.6. Nobody plays better than him at that position. For No.5 my choices are Yuvraj and Inzamam. Inzamam had this knack of switching to top gear before you realize. Can't think of anyone else for No.5.
i think its a nomination.
i couldn't find maddy's.

i have withdrawn the nomination, thanks Sourav :)

19thmay
19th November 2010, 05:10 PM
Updated:



Inzamam 11 ( GP, Maniraj, Plum, Vivasayi, P_R,Dhakshan,MovieCop, raajarasigan,Sourav,PB,LM)
S.Waugh 7 ( P_R, Maniraj, Riyaz, GP,Dhakshan,ajithfederer, steveaustin)
Bevan 5 ( Riyazz,MovieCop,raajarasigan,Dinesh,PB)
Rhodes 5 (Plum, GP,Dhakshan,Dinesh,PB))
Cronje 4 (P_R,MovieCop, Steveaustin,raajarasigan)
Yuvraj 4(Sourav,Ramakrishna,LM,MADDY)
Ranatunga 3 (Plum, Maniraj, Riyaz)
Symonds 2 (steveaustin,Dinesh)


I have not added in B(K)'s yet.

Flau/Sridhar back to you from here.

Thiyaga sudare, nanri!

B(K) anne, S.Waugh thavira innum rendu peru sollunga. Kallis kooda nalla aaduvaan.

littlemaster1982
19th November 2010, 05:24 PM
B(K) anne, S.Waugh thavira innum rendu peru sollunga. Kallis kooda nalla aaduvaan.

:lol:

Plum
19th November 2010, 06:14 PM
thanks feeyar.

Reg #5 and #6, again, there seem to be conflicting opinions.

#6 - we almost decided will be a medium pace allrounder but LM has given prAdhu for Bevan.

Anyone has any objections to including Bevan as a candidate at #6 along with other all rounders?

adhaiyum ippOvE start paNNidalAm.

P_R
19th November 2010, 06:21 PM
Nember 6 - Jonty Rhodes

We have enough batsmen, bowlers.
Bevan is a good finisher, innings pacer etc. But with this batting line up I don't see us having to rely on Bevan. vandhavaraikkum laabam Rhodes would be a welcome addition to the team. Oru 20-30 run kaapaathi tharuvaapla.

Anyway my number 7 is Gilchrist. So we can do without Bevan in the line-up.

Plum
19th November 2010, 06:27 PM
sari let #6 be free for all. All Rounder vENumnAlum, Batsman vENumnAlum #6-la nominate paNNunga ellOrum. Obviously, Pollock ellAm #6 mudiyAdhu so we are probably talking of Flintoff etc.

Note: Looks like Kallis will create a record by being nominated in the poll for maximum # of positions, without being selected for any of those - kind of reflects his career, doesnt it?

Vivasaayi
20th November 2010, 12:40 AM
6. Steven Waugh (C)

http://www.espncricinfo.com/legends-of-cricket/content/site/451900.html

Plum - keep in mind that he a reliable medium pace bowler.

A splendid captain and ofcourse a GREAT Batsman, can play according to situation.Best combination for number 6.

raghavendran
20th November 2010, 05:49 PM
my choice inzamam

Vivasaayi
20th November 2010, 05:55 PM
my choice inzamam

inziya compaign panni number 5 ku jeyikka veppom...number 6ku yarayavadhu sollunga

raghavendran
20th November 2010, 05:58 PM
my choice inzamam

inziya compaign panni number 5 ku jeyikka veppom...number 6ku yarayavadhu sollungabatsmana allroundera? :think:

raghavendran
20th November 2010, 05:58 PM
my choice inzamam

inziya compaign panni number 5 ku jeyikka veppom...number 6ku yarayavadhu sollunga :2thumbsup:

vanchi
20th November 2010, 07:33 PM
//if accepted//

waugh
yuvaraj
bevan

Vivasaayi
20th November 2010, 07:35 PM
my choice inzamam

inziya compaign panni number 5 ku jeyikka veppom...number 6ku yarayavadhu sollungabatsmana allroundera? :think:

all rounder na bowling batting than pannanumnu illa

Good Batting skills, Excellent leadership quality, good fielder, shrewd thinker, Useful bowlera kooda irukalam - Steven Waugh...come on

raghavendran
20th November 2010, 08:19 PM
my choice inzamam

inziya compaign panni number 5 ku jeyikka veppom...number 6ku yarayavadhu sollungabatsmana allroundera? :think:

all rounder na bowling batting than pannanumnu illa

Good Batting skills, Excellent leadership quality, good fielder, shrewd thinker, Useful bowlera kooda irukalam - Steven Waugh...come oni guess waugh wil b wasted at no 6...namma batting andha madhiri...probably a klusener wil do..kadaisila kizhikira madhiri oru player..or even a filntoff or a cairns....these guys can give an attacking option to the middle order which comprises solid batsman ike lara,desilva,inzi.and ofcas their bowling ability. :D

Vivasaayi
20th November 2010, 09:40 PM
raghav,

steveku aduthu gilli..he will take care of tearing apart the attack in the final overs

ajithfederer
21st November 2010, 01:03 AM
He will be a severe weak link in this kinda line-up!!/ Enna positionkku edukka poringa? 6-kka. Edhukku verum fieldingkku mattuma?? :roll:.

Nember 6 - Jonty Rhodes

We have enough batsmen, bowlers.
Bevan is a good finisher, innings pacer etc. But with this batting line up I don't see us having to rely on Bevan. vandhavaraikkum laabam Rhodes would be a welcome addition to the team. Oru 20-30 run kaapaathi tharuvaapla.

Anyway my number 7 is Gilchrist. So we can do without Bevan in the line-up.

ajithfederer
21st November 2010, 01:06 AM
5th : Steve waugh

6th position ; First choice is Klusener
Second : Chris Cairns

7th position has to be wicket keeper and it is Gilchrist.

raghavendran
21st November 2010, 09:20 AM
raghav,

steveku aduthu gilli..he will take care of tearing apart the attack in the final oversvivs bro
7 gilli..but bowling-4 bowlers dhaan irupanga..shortage of a 5th bowler..steve was a regular bowler in his initial stages but apparam part time bowler ayitaaru..so an attacking batsman with gud bowling abilities would b apt...gilli oda sethu innoru attacking force dhaane :)

19thmay
21st November 2010, 11:59 AM
6th or 7th Position apparam paathukalaam. Please stick with #5th choices.

19thmay
21st November 2010, 12:24 PM
So far...

Inzamam 11 ( GP, Maniraj, Plum, Vivasayi, P_R,Dhakshan,MovieCop, raajarasigan,Sourav,PB,LM)
S.Waugh 9 ( P_R, Maniraj, Riyaz, GP,Dhakshan,ajithfederer, steveaustin, B(K),Vanchi)
Bevan 6 ( Riyazz,MovieCop,raajarasigan,Dinesh,PB,Vanchi)
Rhodes 5 (Plum, GP,Dhakshan,Dinesh,PB))
Yuvraj 5(Sourav,Ramakrishna,LM,MADDY,Vanchi)
Cronje 4 (P_R,MovieCop, Steveaustin,raajarasigan)
Ranatunga 3 (Plum, Maniraj, Riyaz)
Symonds 2 (steveaustin,Dinesh)

raghavendran
21st November 2010, 02:49 PM
So far...

Inzamam 11 ( GP, Maniraj, Plum, Vivasayi, P_R,Dhakshan,MovieCop, raajarasigan,Sourav,PB,LM)
S.Waugh 9 ( P_R, Maniraj, Riyaz, GP,Dhakshan,ajithfederer, steveaustin, B(K),Vanchi)
Bevan 6 ( Riyazz,MovieCop,raajarasigan,Dinesh,PB,Vanchi)
Rhodes 5 (Plum, GP,Dhakshan,Dinesh,PB))
Yuvraj 5(Sourav,Ramakrishna,LM,MADDY,Vanchi)
Cronje 4 (P_R,MovieCop, Steveaustin,raajarasigan)
Ranatunga 3 (Plum, Maniraj, Riyaz)
Symonds 2 (steveaustin,Dinesh)enna vituteenga..my choice inzi

19thmay
24th November 2010, 05:45 PM
So can we conclude that these 8 were the final nominations?

1. Inzamam
2. S.Waugh
3. M.Bevan
4. J.Rhodes
5. Y.Singh
6. H.Cronje
7. A.Ranatunga
8. A.Symonds

Sourav
24th November 2010, 06:07 PM
So can we conclude that these 8 were the final nominations?

1. Inzamam
2. S.Waugh
3. M.Bevan
4. J.Rhodes
5. Y.Singh
6. H.Cronje
7. A.Ranatunga
8. A.Symonds
inzi, ranatunga - inga enna wrestling-a nadakka poguthu... :huh: ivangalai serhta team-la 3 run-out-vathu kanfarmmedd... 2,3 runs-kellam chance-e illa....
rhodes - amazing videos-la vena avar fielding-i podalaam... alltime XI-la varra alavukku ellam worthu illai saar kelambunga... :wave:
symonds - thambi, mazhai neraya penjirukku, kolam, kuttai ellam rombhi poyirukum, poyi meen pudichuttu vaa...po... :wave:
cronje - take the 25 ruppees... rejecctteedd...
Beven - 6-vathu seatu kaaliya irukku...anga poyi ukkaru...
Y Singh - :goodidea: :perfect_choice: :victory:

satissh_r
24th November 2010, 06:12 PM
Ok my vote for Bevan :)

Maniraj
24th November 2010, 06:12 PM
Yuviyae Sameera reddy koopadaraangalaam :lol2:

steveaustin
24th November 2010, 06:17 PM
inzi, ranatunga - inga enna wrestling-a nadakka poguthu... :huh: ivangalai serhta team-la 3 run-out-vathu kanfarmmedd...

:rotfl: Ranatunga has more walks than runs in his career.


2,3 runs-kellam chance-e illa....

Chance ellAm uNdu.. AnA ellAm opponents-ku.... ones will be converted into twos and threes. No need to roll the pitch. :lol2:


Y Singh - :goodidea: :perfect_choice: :victory:

Preity varuvAngaLA. kattipidi vaithiyathukkellAm niRaya selavAgumE... :lol2:

steveaustin
24th November 2010, 06:32 PM
Beven - 6-vathu seatu kaaliya irukku...anga poyi ukkaru...

:notthatway: Booking is still going only for 5th seat. 6th Counter is yet to be opened. So he has to wait. Once the counter opens, few people will come. :lol2:

Riyazz
24th November 2010, 06:40 PM
Sourav . S.waugha vitutinga. :P

raajarasigan
24th November 2010, 06:40 PM
Ranatunga is a very good runner between the wickets despite his weight / size...

Puliyan_Biryani
24th November 2010, 07:00 PM
ulloor selavaanikke vazhiyai kaanom idhula veliyoor selavaani vera :lol2:. naan podhuvaa sonnen :wink:.

steveaustin
24th November 2010, 07:00 PM
Ranatunga is a very good runner between the wickets despite his weight / size...

:oops2: I forget to add the name of Inzy for the second quote.

Arjuna was too clever and places the ball very well so that he can walk a single rather run. Preservation of energy looked like his principle. He preserved his energy by walking those singles and even in the final overs he played more balls very fine left and right of the WK. If needed, he started to hit the balls between long on and mid-wicket and few hits over extra-cover too. But his fielding is average.

Dinesh84
24th November 2010, 07:01 PM
rhodes - amazing videos-la vena avar fielding-i podalaam... alltime XI-la varra alavukku ellam worthu illai saar kelambunga... :wave:
Ok.. othukuraen..


symonds - thambi, mazhai neraya penjirukku, kolam, kuttai ellam rombhi poyirukum, poyi meen pudichuttu vaa...po... :wave:
symo ku enna korai :huh: .. thaanni adichutu alambal pannuvaapla :oops: taelend wise he is superior to uv.. i would pick symonds in my team any day over yuvaraasu.. fielding of uv is more also mostly exaggerated than what he really is.. ethanayo sitters ah nazhuva vitrukkaan..

P_R
24th November 2010, 07:20 PM
Please don't club Ranatunga with Inzi (club paNNA brammAndamAna oru ruvam kidaikkin).

Ranatunga is deceptive. He can sprint between wickets and surprise when the situation demands. Particularly great coordination with de Silva and they used to steal singles. His famous walks were almost never opportunities for 2 that he turned to 1 through lethargy. Simple energy conservation. EllArum lampoonittaanga.

Of course nember 5 for StevvA.
In addition to batting exploits he was the proverbial 'idea bowler'.

Plum
24th November 2010, 07:31 PM
Idea bowler :lol:

Yes, feeyaar, the reasons you gave, that's'why i chose Ranatunga as a nomination. I'll also prop him up for captain(if selectedn which is unlikely) for two reasons:
1. He is a leader and rose above tamil-sinhalese to promote murali since he saw that as an end to forge a winning team. It is easy tosay today to say that was a given but i think when murali started out, without an imposing record, a lesser sinhalese captain might not have bothered to fight for murali. He can rise above white man differences if made incharge of them. I am not sure if a white captain can rise above their natural disdain for subcontinentals(never mind the platitudes they spout in conferences and interviews) other than tendulkar. I am not saying ranatunga is altruistic but he is more practical minded in getting his team together to work as an unit.
2. Quite a smart captain.

raajarasigan
24th November 2010, 07:34 PM
ulloor selavaanikke vazhiyai kaanom idhula veliyoor selavaani vera :lol2:. naan podhuvaa sonnen :wink:.meaning :roll:

raajarasigan
24th November 2010, 07:37 PM
He preserved his energy by walking those singles and even in the final overs he played more balls very fine left and right of the WK.true... ithai naanga OC run'nu solluvom...novaama nonbu kumbiduvaan...

P_R
24th November 2010, 07:40 PM
Flau, 1 ellAm ellA sfortsmanum seyyuradhu dhaan. I am not taking anything from Ranatunga just saying other Sinhalese captains won't do it ellAm over. Only people on the outside are cognizant of such difference.

Anyway, indha saNdaikOzhiness, veLLaikaaran-nammaLai-suraNduraan pongal are precisely the reasons why I won't want such a captain.

Pick a captain for cricketing reasons. On field decisions, strategy, response to situations etc. AFAI have seen - in this lot I'd pick, Steve Waugh.

Sourav
24th November 2010, 07:42 PM
ranatunga 2, steve 2, inzi 2 symmo 1...votes split aaga poguthu... so, jeikka porathu yuvi than... :victory:

dinsu... both r equal... symmo is better fielder but, i will vote 4 my fav yuvi. symmo pudikathu avalava...

RR, puli yuvi-i solrar...

P_R
24th November 2010, 07:44 PM
He preserved his energy by walking those singles and even in the final overs he played more balls very fine left and right of the WK.true... ithai naanga OC run'nu solluvom...novaama nonbu kumbiduvaan... Sachin paddle sweep-ai enna solluveenga?

And Ranatunga is quite capable of big hits too.
In the '96 WC final he is - as usual - playing a supporting role to de Silva. And he plays a lot of intentional edge/ deflection/glance strokes. Then Warne loses control of a ball and it goes too full and Ranatunga deposits it into the squareleg crowd. It was such a - eppo thEvaiyO, appo dhaan weight-ai kaamippOm- moment :-)

P_R
24th November 2010, 07:44 PM
ranatunga 2, steve 2, inzi 2 symmo 1...votes split aaga poguthu... so, jeikka porathu yuvi than... :victory:

.
Hello...StevvA irukkApla

raajarasigan
24th November 2010, 07:47 PM
He preserved his energy by walking those singles and even in the final overs he played more balls very fine left and right of the WK.true... ithai naanga OC run'nu solluvom...novaama nonbu kumbiduvaan... Sachin paddle sweep-ai enna solluveenga?

And Ranatunga is quite capable of big hits too.
In the '96 WC final he is - as usual - playing a supporting role to de Silva. And he plays a lot of intentional edge/ deflection/glance strokes. Then Warne loses control of a ball and it goes too full and Ranatunga deposits it into the squareleg crowd. It was such a - eppo thEvaiyO, appo dhaan weight-ai kaamippOm- moment :-)agree P_R.. he was quite intentional to play that kind of shots... aana edhirkatchikaarana irundhu (as an indian fan) paartha sema kadauppa irukkum..

Plum
24th November 2010, 07:53 PM
Feeyaar, steve waugh baggy green pOdaDhavanai karichu kottiyE antagonise paNNiduvAr. Team kavundhukkum. Chatterjee kingAga irundhu enna payan?

P_R
24th November 2010, 08:02 PM
Feeyaar, steve waugh baggy green pOdaDhavanai karichu kottiyE antagonise paNNiduvAr.
edhirkatchikaaranai thaan thittirukkAr.
idhai ippidi estrapolate paNreenga. That's all.

btw Akram 'kutravaaLi, aana avar bowling pudikkin adhunaala vittudarEn' Judge article ling kudunga. Andha posisanukku poll varadhukkulla padikkaNum.

19thmay
24th November 2010, 10:06 PM
Poll added

5 captains in the poll. So there wont be any need to select a 'new' captain. :wink:

19thmay
24th November 2010, 10:08 PM
P_R I need your help here.... :oops:

I have added M.Bevan but it is not showing up in the poll!!!!

19thmay
24th November 2010, 10:10 PM
For time being please dont vote!!! :oops:

Riyazz
24th November 2010, 10:36 PM
Oh sorry i voted

19thmay
25th November 2010, 10:14 AM
P_R please lock this thread, I will open new one for polling.

Plum
25th November 2010, 11:05 AM
19th, I think Feeyaar can reset the poll. No need to open new thread I think

Plum
25th November 2010, 11:29 AM
Feeyaar, steve waugh baggy green pOdaDhavanai karichu kottiyE antagonise paNNiduvAr.
edhirkatchikaaranai thaan thittirukkAr.
idhai ippidi estrapolate paNreenga. That's all.

btw Akram 'kutravaaLi, aana avar bowling pudikkin adhunaala vittudarEn' Judge article ling kudunga. Andha posisanukku poll varadhukkulla padikkaNum.
ikkada chUdu (http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakvind/content/story/232548.html)



But over five years after the report was finally released, and more than seven years after the inquiry began, Justice Qayyum told Cricinfo that he hadn't wanted a "great player" like Wasim to be banned, especially towards the end of his career. "For Wasim I had some soft corner for him. He was a very great player, a very great bowler and I was his fan, and therefore that thing did weigh with me. Two things - one, I didn't want that the cricket should be deprived of his participation, and the other was that I didn't want that towards the end of his career... he should be banned or something like that. My idea was not to find people guilty and then punish them. It was more of a case where I had to do something to put an end to the practice in future. What had happened had happened. You couldn't turn the clock back but you had to make sure they wouldn't repeat what they were doing."




In his report submitted in 2000, Justice Qayyum - now retired - had fined Akram and recommended he never be allowed to captain Pakistan again. To quote his verdict: "This commission feels that all is not well here and that Wasim Akram is not above board. He has not co-operated with this Commission. It is only by giving Wasim Akram the benefit of the doubt after Ata-ur-Rehman changed his testimony in suspicious circumstances that he has not been found guilty of match-fixing. He cannot be said to be above suspicion."

P_R
25th November 2010, 11:56 AM
19th, I think Feeyaar can reset the poll. No need to open new thread I think I edited the foll.

Flau, thanks for the link.
Full article padikka mudiyalai (cricinfo flocked).
Quote paNNadhai padichEn.
Not abouu suspicion 'ngrAr. adhaan theriyumE. :lol2:

19thmay
25th November 2010, 11:59 AM
Enna edit pannineenga? where is Bevan??

raajarasigan
25th November 2010, 12:01 PM
Enna edit pannineenga? where is Bevan?? :lol:

Sourav
25th November 2010, 12:55 PM
yuvi! :victory:

steveaustin
25th November 2010, 12:57 PM
rAjarAja chOzhan 2 vAkkugaL peRRu muNNaniyil irukkiRAr. :lol2:

Last date for Poll may kindly be mentioned.

P_R
25th November 2010, 01:20 PM
Poll ends 1st December

EllArum vandhu StevvA kku kuththunga.

steveaustin
25th November 2010, 01:25 PM
Thanks P_R. :)

Sourav
25th November 2010, 01:55 PM
jeikka porathu yuvi than.... deposit-iyavathu kaappathikkanumnu nenaikuravanga PR-ku oru request pottu unga players-i list-lerunthu remoo pannikkalaam... :lol2:

steveaustin
25th November 2010, 01:58 PM
:rotfl:

LAlu mAdhiriyE pEsureenga. :lol2:

Sourav
25th November 2010, 01:59 PM
saar, dec-2 theriyum yaaru lallu, yaaru gilli-nu... :P

Plum
25th November 2010, 02:01 PM
Yuvi vs S Waugh - doesnt sound right.

If Yuvi, why not Symonds? Whatever Yuvi can do, Symonds can do equally well or better, no?

Fielding: Symonds>>>>> Yuvi
Acting like good fielding: Yuvi>>>>> Symonds
Bowling: Symmo>Yuvi

Batting: Symmo > Yuvi in dependability
= in explosiveness
= in frequency of explosiveness
Temparament and team orientation also mostly = only.
In what way Yuvi scores over symmo?

steveaustin
25th November 2010, 02:01 PM
saar, dec-2 theriyum yaaru lallu, yaaru gilli-nu... :P

UG compaign nadukkudhO??? :roll:

Plum,
kattipidi vaithiyamA irukkum. adhanAla thAn sourav ivvalavu recommendason. :P

Vivasaayi
25th November 2010, 02:03 PM
Please change the name from I.HUQ to Inzamam..its misleading...

or is wantedly done :mad:

Sourav
25th November 2010, 02:10 PM
plum, if u consider fielding & bowling, explosiveness etc... then, symmo is better than all others in the list...right? so, ellorum avanukka vote poduranga?! everyone prefer their personal favs i guess... so, naangalum. :P

Plum
25th November 2010, 02:15 PM
sourav, what I meant was Symonds is a better version of Yuvi.

Steve Waugh et al bring different strengths to the team. They cant be compared with Symonds. Selecting them is for a different reason than selecting Yuvi/Symonds
But if you want a hard hitting, explosive all rounder who can field well, then, my contention is you are better off with Symonds.

Ofcourse, you are sayingt hat you want Yuvi, period. Which is fine.

Sourav
25th November 2010, 02:19 PM
RR, yuvi-kaka few weeks b4 avlo dhum katti pesineenga... so vote potturunga... :P

RK, yuvi supporter... engappa irukka...

Ajay?

Plum
25th November 2010, 02:22 PM
Yuvikku vote pOdaravanga - think. Think of the order

Sachin
Jayasurya
Lara
Aravinda

indha orderla varrachE, Yuvi vandhA nallAvA irukkum? Think-ungappA!

19thmay
25th November 2010, 02:31 PM
:rotfl:

LAlu mAdhiriyE pEsureenga. :lol2:

Sourav-ta challenge pannadheenga. Avan English literature section-la irrundhu koooda aal kootitu vandhu vote-u poda vachuduvaan. :lol2:

Plum
25th November 2010, 02:34 PM
Oh avar MK Alagiri mAdhiriyA? :-)

19thmay
25th November 2010, 02:35 PM
Please change the name from I.HUQ to Inzamam..its misleading...

or is wantedly done :mad:

Matha perellam padicheengala? I.Haq thaan correct-a varumnu appadi pOten. :roll: Wanted-laam illa...

If you still want to change, please request P_R. Naan edhavadhu kai vachale pall ilikidhu.

P_R
25th November 2010, 02:43 PM
EllArumE inishal.name-nu dhaanE irukku. Inzamam-ai mattum yEn maathaNum 'ngreenga ? :confused2:

Plum
25th November 2010, 02:48 PM
Except Yuvraj and Inzamam, others are usually addressed by their surnames, including Waugh.

Yuvraj campaigner Sourav is unperturbed because I think avaru dummy candidate-aiyum jeyikka vaippAr going by his reputation

Inzamam campaigner Vivs is perturbed becausee he is banking on the Inzamam name to get a few votes.

Sourav
25th November 2010, 02:54 PM
No, no... Yuvraj Singh-nu detaila podungappa pls... R Singh-nu padichu vera yaarukavathu vote pottura porange.... :cry3:

P_R
25th November 2010, 02:59 PM
ellAr pEraiyum neetiyAchappA

Sourav
25th November 2010, 02:59 PM
campaign ellam pannala... yuvi can win without that...
me, maddy, ajay, DH, nerd & oru indian player XI list-la varanumnu nenaikkuravanga etc ellam vote poduvanga i believe... :P
campaign ellam last-a izhupariya iruntha paathukkalaam... 8-)

riyazz, u also yuvi right?! :P

Sourav
25th November 2010, 03:02 PM
Thanks PR.

Plum
25th November 2010, 03:04 PM
Kamaan Inzy
Kamaan Bevan
Kamaan Ranatunga...er..konjam kastam so nI adakki vAsi
Kamaan Inzy
Kamaan Bevan

Sourav
25th November 2010, 03:08 PM
Kamaan Inzy
Kamaan Bevan
Kamaan Ranatunga...er..konjam kastam so nI adakki vAsi
Kamaan Inzy
Kamaan Bevan Beven-i yen 2 times koopudurel... :P
elloraiyum nalla koopudunga,,, appo than votes split aagi yuvi easya jeippaan... :P

Plum
25th November 2010, 03:09 PM
Anti-Yuvis, let's settle on a candidate to prevent vote-splitting.
avasarapattu yArum vote paNNidAdhInga. pEsi mudivukku varalAm :-)

Sourav
25th November 2010, 03:16 PM
Anti-Yuvis, let's settle on a candidate to prevent vote-splitting.
avasarapattu yArum vote paNNidAdhInga. pEsi mudivukku varalAm :-)
haha, nangalaachum paravalla engalukku pudicha player-ku vote panrom... vera yaar jeichalum paravalla yuvi thokkanumnu poduura vote-i vida ithu better... :P
so, makkalae manasatchiyoda unga fav option-ku vote pannunga! :yes:
dinsu, manasatchi-nu onnu iruntha nethu sonna maathiri 'symonds'-ku vote podu.... :twisted:

Plum
25th November 2010, 03:19 PM
sariyAna pAttukku mannar parisaLithAl migavum sandhOshapaduvadhu nAn(gaL)
thavaRAna pAdalukku mannar parisaLithAl varuthapadiuvadhum nAn(gaL)

Maddy:ingE ellAmE nI(nga) dhAnA?

Sourav
25th November 2010, 03:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l4Hyv0Utrs
Plum, watch this... ungalukku pudikkataha chris broad son bowling-i enna velu velukkuraan...athukkavachum anti-yuvi campaign pannatheengo... :noteeth: