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raja_fan
26th April 2012, 07:10 AM
Samantha tweets :

Samantha Ruth Prabhu ‏ @Samanthaprabhu2

Never have I been so in love with a song while shooting it...illaiyaraaja... Ur jst too gud to be true.... Nepv and yvm..expect great music


Jeeva has tweeted that he is currently shooting for a romantic song for NEPV in this hot summer.

MADDY
26th April 2012, 07:40 AM
In Manathodu Mano - A flute player from Raaja troupe . Fantastic ones .. pls watch now

It is one to give credits to the players in it is another to have an intense desire at heart to improve them as much as possible - seeing them as part of himself ! No wonder , they drop the "illaya" and call him Raaja !

PS 2 : There is a difference between raaja players and others - they seem to be soaked in music . What bliss !

I don't understand how giving credits in cd means rahman was never really interested in their musical growth.....ar has inspired so many of his subordinates to compose without any fear of them eclipsing him ex: karthik, srinivas, suresh peters

And if u know something, raja's players have hardcoded notes to follow which they can't deviate a bit.....whereas ar's players come to sessions without knowing Wat to play and go back as co-composers

raja_fan
26th April 2012, 10:21 AM
I don't understand how giving credits in cd means rahman was never really interested in their musical growth.....ar has inspired so many of his subordinates to compose without any fear of them eclipsing him ex: karthik, srinivas, suresh peters

And if u know something, raja's players have hardcoded notes to follow which they can't deviate a bit.....whereas ar's players come to sessions without knowing Wat to play and go back as co-composers


I liked the last 4 words of your post..
Co-composers !! Ha..ha..I like that very much ;)

MumbaiRamki
26th April 2012, 01:39 PM
Maddy

I was discussing about attributes of a composer in general and how in particular Illayaraja raised the levels of musicians under him, based on what i saw in that show . Does that mean that others don't do that ? (or) does that mean that composers who credit the musicians don't improve their quality ?

( In one way i understand - Rehman brought in the trend of crediting musicians in CDs and hence our minds immediately equate him to anything said about it :) )

Raja _fan
edhuku sir indha kola veri ?

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
26th April 2012, 04:23 PM
And if u know something, raja's players have hardcoded notes to follow which they can't deviate a bit.....whereas ar's players come to sessions without knowing Wat to play and go back as co-composers

Not allowing even to change a bit, that is Composer's choice. Even if Rahman brews his players ar Co-Composers, are the playes going ahead and recording their own modified pieces?!? Isn't that still Rahman the composer who thinks that such minor modification will add value ad decide to add them?

Rahman records each and every bit separately(mostly). Its even being said that some specific instrumentalists come to Rahman's studio only once and later, that same instrument tones is 'used' to create another tune(being played) using Computers itself and for that specific piece which the instrumentalist didn't play originally, he was being sent, Remuneration.

Consider this against Raja, Raja had a biiig troupe. He alswas wanted most of the common musicians to be present, even if there is no track for them. He will use them if needed. Along with them, some times, some special extra instrumentalists are brought and kept, on Raja's instructions. This means that he always will have a big troupe and it may only increase and not decrease, a times. Added to that, we may note that he was extremely busy and even when his offers dried out, he spent the same time for the films which came. That meant the time he took for composing, recording is same, very less time. And there are cases where he just give notes and go. Purushothaman or Narasimman conducts and records.

Given all this, we see less chance in interaction. Also i feel, a composer need not exchange roles. Players be players only. Some composers may be too fabric and sensitive to interruptions and that may even 'corrupt' their mood. I always wondered what Raja's players felt and howcome they remained undisturbed of the tune, when playing some specific tune. I was wondering howcome they were able to concentrate on playing, when they were given some superb tunes.

But in the end, i felt, they are meant for playing and reproducing the notes. At the time of recording, while with Raja, they better be mechanical robot just doing whatever Raja says and nothing more. Or else, it will be a big chaos, not only in the recording hall but also in the minds of the Composer too!

skr
26th April 2012, 05:39 PM
Violinist Prabhakar talking about Ilaiyaraaja and How to Name it Concert
V_S and others - check out about how he wrote notes for RamaRajyam in reverse goosebumps :)
http://youtu.be/3g2N2dvQlVM

krish244
26th April 2012, 07:21 PM
About the HTNI concert on 29th April:

http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/metroplus/article3356565.ece

thanks,

Krishnan

P.S.: Check out the related photos section on the left of the page. HTNI album back cover is available. Is it the same malayalam composer OUSEPHACHAN?

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
26th April 2012, 11:39 PM
There is a contest for getting free tickets for the show. http://e.indiaglitz.com/contest/htni/

The choice of answer is wrong, and there is no way to Submit, selecting no choice.

Below is the question

Which track is sung by Maestro Ilayaraja?

How To Name It
I Met Bach In My House
Chamber Welcomes Thiagaraja
Study For Violin

layman10
26th April 2012, 11:57 PM
About the HTNI concert on 29th April:

http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/metroplus/article3356565.ece

thanks,

Krishnan

P.S.: Check out the related photos section on the left of the page. HTNI album back cover is available. Is it the same malayalam composer OUSEPHACHAN?

Must be him. He is suppose to be a violinist.

Can any explain the album notes. Seems to vague to me.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
27th April 2012, 12:09 AM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=209128112524109&set=a.153985838038337.20074.153944858042435&type=1&permPage=1

இளைமை ஊஞ்சலாடுகிறது படத்திற்கு முன்பாக, வேறு ஒரு படத்திற்கு இசைமைக்குமாறு இளையராஜாவிடம், கிட்டத்தட்ட 6 முறை நேரடியாக வற்புறுத்திஇருக்கிறார் இயக்குனர் ஸ்ரீதர்.

இருந்தபோதும் அந்த படத்துக்கு இசையமைக்க மறுத்துவிட்டாராம் ராஜா. தான் மிகவும் நேசிக்கும் இசையமைப்பாளரான எம்.எஸ்.விஸ்வநாதனை, இயக்குனர் ஸ்ரீதர் பிரிந்து வருவதை ஏற்க மனமில்லாமல்தான் அப்படி மறுத்தாரம் ராஜா

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
27th April 2012, 12:20 AM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=202966456473608&set=a.153985838038337.20074.153944858042435&type=1&permPage=1

உதிரிபூக்கள், நிறம் மாறாத பூக்கள், பசி, பெளணர்மி இரவில், ஒரு விடுகதை ஒரு தொடர்கதை, என பல படங்களில் கதாநாயகனாக நடித்த விஜயன் இயக்கிய ஒரே படம் - "புதிய ஸ்வரங்கள் "

இளையராஜா இசை அமைத்த இந்த படம் இன்று வரை வெளிவரவில்லை...

V_S
27th April 2012, 04:21 AM
Violinist Prabhakar talking about Ilaiyaraaja and How to Name it Concert
V_S and others - check out about how he wrote notes for RamaRajyam in reverse goosebumps :)
Came home just now and watched this video. No words. :notworthy: Thanks a lot again skr for sharing this memorable video. This is what we call one and only genius, there may be legends, but only Raja is a genius and according to me he is the only composer in our film industry. Composer is a big term, which we use very casually to everyone. To be honest, others are just music directors and it takes Maestro to become a composer or a creator.

buggle
27th April 2012, 05:15 AM
And if u know something, raja's players have hardcoded notes to follow which they can't deviate a bit.....

All the notes in those 4000+ songs whatever he composed came from his brain...song may be a hit or may have failed miserably, doesn't matter but still he can raise his collar to say that is his own product.

skr
27th April 2012, 07:49 AM
Flute Sudhakar on Ilaiyaraaja - Only 1 part is available , will post the other parts when i get the links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOoInRjJ0tI

baroque
27th April 2012, 09:37 AM
Thanks SKR for the video of Violinist Shri.Prabakar!

Indeed Genius!

Nichayamaa show will be fantastic!:ty:


thanks Krish for the hindu article & the photo - late 80s time Raja photo polarukku!:ty:

vinatha.

baroque
27th April 2012, 10:00 AM
:ty:SKR for Manadhodu Mano program video!


Mano Sir,

You are rocking! show after show, you get better, now it has become a habit! :)

Flute Shri.Sudhakar!:ty:



tonight again I am trapped with nostalgic 80s Ilayaraja compositions before hitting the bed, I blame it on Mano sir!

azhagiya kanney......, putham pudhu kaalai.....

How can I snap out of the eternal beauties, Ilayaraja raised me!

I surrender!

vinatha.

MADDY
27th April 2012, 12:18 PM
All the notes in those 4000+ songs whatever he composed came from his brain...song may be a hit or may have failed miserably, doesn't matter but still he can raise his collar to say that is his own product.

he normally wears a pyjama shirt which has no collar rite? jokes apart, that was precisely my point too when i first spoke to MumbaiRamki.......

skr
27th April 2012, 12:20 PM
Today at 2 PM on Jaya Tv - Eera Vizhi Kaviyangal
Someone please please try to record the movie , i believe the BGM is full of fantastic WCM ..

MADDY
27th April 2012, 12:21 PM
Not allowing even to change a bit, that is Composer's choice. Even if Rahman brews his players ar Co-Composers, are the playes going ahead and recording their own modified pieces?!? Isn't that still Rahman the composer who thinks that such minor modification will add value ad decide to add them?

Rahman records each and every bit separately(mostly). Its even being said that some specific instrumentalists come to Rahman's studio only once and later, that same instrument tones is 'used' to create another tune(being played) using Computers itself and for that specific piece which the instrumentalist didn't play originally, he was being sent, Remuneration.

Consider this against Raja, Raja had a biiig troupe. He alswas wanted most of the common musicians to be present, even if there is no track for them. He will use them if needed. Along with them, some times, some special extra instrumentalists are brought and kept, on Raja's instructions. This means that he always will have a big troupe and it may only increase and not decrease, a times. Added to that, we may note that he was extremely busy and even when his offers dried out, he spent the same time for the films which came. That meant the time he took for composing, recording is same, very less time. And there are cases where he just give notes and go. Purushothaman or Narasimman conducts and records.

Given all this, we see less chance in interaction. Also i feel, a composer need not exchange roles. Players be players only. Some composers may be too fabric and sensitive to interruptions and that may even 'corrupt' their mood. I always wondered what Raja's players felt and howcome they remained undisturbed of the tune, when playing some specific tune. I was wondering howcome they were able to concentrate on playing, when they were given some superb tunes.

But in the end, i felt, they are meant for playing and reproducing the notes. At the time of recording, while with Raja, they better be mechanical robot just doing whatever Raja says and nothing more. Or else, it will be a big chaos, not only in the recording hall but also in the minds of the Composer too!

obviously, there are good things and great things abt Raja's style of composition and treating his players.......

i was just wondering why MumbaiRamki thought composers who give credit in CD covers never cared abt their players actually.....but he clarified his point, and im clear on what he said, i think this topic can be deemed closed :-)

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
27th April 2012, 12:59 PM
About the HTNI concert on 29th April:

http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/metroplus/article3356565.ece
P.S.: Check out the related photos section on the left of the page. HTNI album back cover is available. Is it the same malayalam composer OUSEPHACHAN?

Wow! LP Record! Its back cover has space and so accommodates the player's list, short-intro about the composer & tracks explanation!
http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/archive/01065/27MP_HOW_TO_NAME_I_1065272a.jpg

KV
27th April 2012, 01:53 PM
Today at 2 PM on Jaya Tv - Eera Vizhi Kaviyangal
Someone please please try to record the movie , i believe the BGM is full of fantastic WCM ..
:shock: yaraavadhu record pannungo, yaraavadhu record pannungo. punyamaa pogum.

Gregorysab
27th April 2012, 02:18 PM
The photograph of this LP cover has been on internet since 3-4 years! Yes Malayalam composer Ousepachan was a violinist with raaja. The names of usual team are very well there, including Blasco, from Bombay, on trombone.

skr
27th April 2012, 04:32 PM
Rajesh Vaidya and Haricharan speak on How To Name It
http://youtu.be/BhyIYx-JjqU
http://youtu.be/7UDoxS8uoBE

raja_fan
27th April 2012, 05:20 PM
Atilla ( the Hungarian guitarist ) has uploaded photos with IR

NEPV recording :
http://www.myspace.com/attilalaszlo/photos/albums/album/2445986


Endrendrum Raja show at Chennai:
http://www.myspace.com/attilalaszlo/photos/albums/album/2445671

With IR in 2009 in India [ Seems he visited Madurai Meenakshi Amman Temple too :) ]:
http://www.myspace.com/attilalaszlo/photos/albums/india-2009-december/1999384

raja_fan
27th April 2012, 05:22 PM
Seeing the photos, we come to know

Atilla has already worked with IR for Paa !

skr
27th April 2012, 05:23 PM
My Gawd - that ending titles credits theme of EVK - just so haunting ..
I really hope someone has recorded it and we get to listen to the BGM tracks soon :)

raja_fan
27th April 2012, 05:27 PM
At IR's home
http://www.myspace.com/attilalaszlo/photos/31932715#{%22ImageId%22%3A31933048}

V_S
27th April 2012, 07:07 PM
raja_fan,
Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for these pictures. These will serve as a Golden memories. Looking at the pictures definitely brings the warmth feels like our home and being there. That's the relation, they just don't play music and go. Especially the pictures of Meenakshi temple brings back lot of memories, every stone in that temple has life. Thank you!

skr
27th April 2012, 07:40 PM
Listen to believe
Here is the Eera Vizhi Kaviyangal End Credits score
http://soundcloud.com/dil-1/eera-vizhi-kaviyangal-end

crvenky
28th April 2012, 01:42 PM
Madhan Q&A in Vikatan:

Q: இளையராஜா இசையமைத்த எத்தனையோ இனிமையான பாடல்கள் திரைப்படங்களில் சரியாகக் காட்சிப்படுத்தப்படவில்லை என்ற ஆதங்கம் என்னைப் போலவே உங்களுக்கும் உண்டா?

A: இல்லாமல் இருக்குமா? அந்தக் காலத்தில் பாடலுக்கு மட்டும் முக்கியத்துவம் தந்து காட்சியை எளிமையாக வைத்துக்கொண்டார் கள். இப்போது 'பாடலுக்கான காட்சியையும் வித்தியாசமாக எடுத்துக் காட்டுகிறேன் பார்!’ என்று முடிவு கட்டி... சொதப்புகிறார்கள். அந்த அதிகப்பிரசங்கித்தனம் இளையராஜா பாடல்களையும் பல முறை பாதித்து இருப்பது உண்மைதான்!

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
29th April 2012, 03:14 AM
நாளை, சாதனை புரிந்த தேவ இசைத்தூதனை, நேரில் காணும் பாகியவான்கள் பூரிப்படைந்து சந்தோஷிக்க வாழ்த்துக்கள்! என்னைப்பொருத்தவரை, என்றென்றும் ராஜா, துபாயில் ராஜா, ராஜா லைவ்-இன்-இத்தாலி போன்ற பிரம்மாண்ட நிகழ்சிகளுக்கு, பொதுமையான ரசிகர்களே வருவர். ஆனால் எப்படிப்பெயரிட, காற்றைத்தவிர வேரொன்றுமில்லை போன்ற நிகழ்சிக்கு வருவோர், சற்றே தீவிர ரசிகர்கள். நம்மைப்போன்ற நெட்டிசன்களே அதிகம்! கூட்டமும் (சதை ஒப்பிட்டால்) குறைவுதான்! எனவே, ஐயாவுடன் சற்றே நெருக்கமாக இருப்பதுபோல் உணரலாம். மற்ற நாட்களை விட, இளையராஜா ரசிகனென காட்டிக்கொள்ள எத்தனிப்பும் அதிகமாக இருக்கும்.

எல்லாவற்றுக்கும் மேல், ராஜா அரங்கினுள் நுழைந்த உடனே உண்டாகும் உணர்ச்சி நெகிழ்சிப்பெருக்கு ஒன்றே போதும், கொடுத்த காசு அதற்கே சரி! பிறகு, மூன்று மணிநேரமும் போனஸ் தான்! இருந்து பாருங்கள், "அட, போதும் உக்காருங்கப்பா!" என சிரித்துக்கொண்டே உரிமையுடனும் சந்தோஷத்துடனும் சொல்லும் வரை, நம் ரசிகசிகாமணிகள் கரவொலி எழுப்புவார்கள், கடந்தமுறை அப்படித்தான் ஆனது!

அதே சமயம், சென்றமுறை போல், அதிகப்பிரசிங்கி ரசிகர்கள் தேவையில்லாமல், தேவையில்லாததை கத்திப்பேசி ஐயாவை மூட் அவுட் ஆக்கக்கூடாது!

இந்த நிகழ்சியை தவரவிடும் அனைவரும் அபாக்யசாலிகளே :(

wizzy
29th April 2012, 02:54 PM
rehearsal nuggets for peeps who couldn't attend the show

http://yfrog.com/2oiouz

http://yfrog.com/mwe4ez

http://yfrog.com/47hj2uz

Plum
29th April 2012, 05:12 PM
Waiting for wizzy in the auditorium...fengat frabhu just left the venue in his sports car. Deiva darisanam mudhal muRai in the offing - butterflies in stomach. Killadi Vaadhyar from B'lore also expected...vERa yArAchum vaRingaLA?

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
29th April 2012, 05:36 PM
Flau, ensoy ya! Nalla ellaathayum note pannikkunga! Oru 2 pakkam ezhutha vendi irukkum! You shud bring the whole thing before our eyes!

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
29th April 2012, 07:31 PM
few minits b5 program start

http://distilleryimage11.instagram.com/0b88dd6291f811e1be6a12313820455d_7.jpg

baroque
29th April 2012, 08:02 PM
Wow! WIZZY & Sakala!

thanks guys...

Isai enum inba vellathil rasikas neendhikkondu erukkiraargal!

Unstoppable Raja!:musicsmile::thumbsup:

Bhava:ty:

baroque
29th April 2012, 08:12 PM
Skr:ty:for Rajesh Vaidhya and Harichandran clips.

K
29th April 2012, 08:39 PM
http://varmah.blogspot.in/2012/04/33.html

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
29th April 2012, 08:51 PM
Tweets

ALLAH PITCHAI ‏ @surryapps
Ambi Sriniwas was not even born when how to name it released but today he stole the show

Venkatesh ‏ @GVenkatesh
The whole audi just orgasmed after the title track of how to name it #howtonameit #ilayaraja

Arunmozhivarman SS ‏ @kingofchola
Bach & Thiyagaraja on stage to witness... #HowtoNameIt

Kaarthik Arul ‏ @kaarthikarul
RT @iamkarki என்ன நிகழ்ச்சி என்றாலும், எப்படி இருந்தது என்றாலும் ஒரே பதிலை சொல்லி சொற்களை மிச்சப்படுத்தலாம் :) #HowToNameIt

Venkatesh ‏ @GVenkatesh

Raja sir on stage #howtonameit #ilayaraja http://pic.twitter.com/EBVWryi3
https://p.twimg.com/ArqHwXtCAAAodx1.jpg

Venkatesh ‏ @GVenkatesh
Lord thyagaraja composed music for youth. Not for old. Says raja. #howtonameit

MusicAloud ‏ @MusicAloud
RT @anantha: Delightful. Raaja not only sang, but told us a story. #HowToNameIt

Venkatesh ‏ @GVenkatesh
Next session of #howtonameit cine songs. Starting with om shivoham from naan kadavul

rajaramsgi
29th April 2012, 10:34 PM
http://varmah.blogspot.in/2012/04/33.html


இந்த லிங்கில் எல்லா தகவல்களும் சுவாராசியமான உண்மை. ஒரு சிறு பிழை மட்டுமே... மண்ணுக்குள் வைரம் மனோபாலா படம்/கதை அல்ல.. பாரதிராஜாவின் மச்சான் மனோஜ்குமார் தான் படத்தின் இயக்குனர். அவருக்கு இது முதல் படமும் கூட..அந்த படைத்திருக்கு இசை தேவேந்திரன்.

உபரி தகவல்: 1987 - வேதம் புதிது படத்திற்கு இளையராஜாவை சாரை விட்டு பிரிந்து மலையாளத்திலிருந்து தேவேந்திரனை அழைத்து வந்தார் பாரதிராஜா. அதே சமயத்தில் தான் மண்ணுக்குள் வைரம் படமும் வந்தது.தேவேந்திரனும் சில படங்களுக்கு இசை அமைத்தார். அவரால் ராஜா எனும் சூறாவளி அடித்த அந்த கால கட்டத்தில் இங்கு நிலைத்து நிற்க முடியவில்லை.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
29th April 2012, 10:47 PM
அவர் மட்டுமா! சங்கர்-கணேஷ், சந்திரபோஸ்... ஆனா சிலர் இவங்களை விட்டுட்டு தேவாவை தான் சொல்கின்றனர், ராஜாவுக்கு அடுத்து (அதாவது ஒரு பத்து இடம் கேப் விட்டுத்தான்!)

Plum
29th April 2012, 11:17 PM
The world will end in 2012, they say. Let it. I will not regret. All of you who didn't attend today, you'll regret. You have to. Poorva jenma palan, they call it. I had it. KV had it. Wizzy had it. Skr had it. Rest of you, I regret to say, didn't. Can I be arrogant for happestance, for being a random chosen one? Well, yes, I can. And I do. I got a slice of Raja's mind today - live. You may watch the youtube of it, in jaya tv, wherever. But you'll never get what I got. And yes, I am arrogantly proud about it. And mumbairamki, if you didn't attend, I say ninga romba paavam paNNi irukkInga.

Plum
29th April 2012, 11:30 PM
1. Forget the genius, wizardry and stature - that is one fascinating mind, and I got a peek of it today. Live. That matters. A lot. To me. .....2) he told the world what he thinks about my Karthikeyan. I was, like, than maganai sAndrOn ena kEtta thaai. You missed it, Ramki, you missed it( or were you the one who shouted "we love u karthik" ?)

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
29th April 2012, 11:35 PM
venkat prabhu ‏ @dirvenkatprabhu
Whatta show!! Mind blowing!! Mesmerising!! Divine!!! Thanks @bhavatharini for recreating the magic!!#HOWTONAMEIT

rozavasanth ‏ @rozavasanth
#HOwToNameIt போக ராஜபார்வை வயிலின் சிம்ஃபனி வேறு; சினிமா பாடல்கள் திருஷ்டிக்கு; மக்கள் வற்புறுத்தி ராஜா பாடிய ரமணகீதத்தில் அங்கேயே அழுதேன்.

Ashok ‏ @ashoker_UHKH
'ஏய் உன்னைத்தானே' பாடலுக்கு இறுதியில் சேர்த்த இசைப்பிரவாகம் Simply Divine..! #howtonameit

Prakash ‏ @icarusprakash
#HowToNameIt பார்த்தவங்க எல்லாரும் டைம்லைனில் ரொம்பவே வெறுப்பேத்தறாங்க மைலாட் #suchislife

RajheshVaidhya ‏ @rajheshvaidhya5
@bhavatharini Thank u so much...in front of Maestro and Dr.LS... what a show..what a crowd..what a music..what a musicians. "How to name it"

rozavasanth ‏ @rozavasanth
காலயிலிருந்து #HowToNameIt 3முறை கேட்டேன்; ஆனாலும் அரங்கில் கேட்ட அனுபவம் வாழ்க்கையில் மறக்காது.

Premgi amaren ‏ @Premgiamaren
"how to name it" amazing show, felt like time traveling 25 years back, thank you sister @bhavatharini

Ashok ‏ @ashoker_UHKH
#howtonameit '' definitely I can't''.

Kamesh Bavaratnam ‏ @kameshratnam
#ILAIYARAAJA how to name it show today united people from mayyam tfm page, yahoogroups, facebook,twitter and orkut

Sahana ‏ @sahana_kannan
I have to go back to India just so I don't miss concerts like #HowtoNameIt. ellarum adha pathiye pesi kaalangaathale kadupethranga.

rozavasanth ‏ @rozavasanth
விழாமுடிந்து வெளியேறிவிட்ட ராஜாவை கார்திக்ராஜா இழுத்து வந்து பேச வைத்தார்; கூட்டம் திரும்ப உட்கார ராஜா பேசியது அடுத்த #HowToNameIt அனுபவம்.

Suresh ‏ @Raaga_Suresh
RT @anantha Today Raaja was absolutely brilliant while explaining how he sees music. Severe goosebumps hearing him talk. #HowToNameIt

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
29th April 2012, 11:41 PM
Plum! We know what we are about to miss! I already explained here! THe feel we get in these kind of shows, than tha Mega crowded Endrendrum Raja types, is taht we will feel more close to Raja, which, of course is rare, irreplaceabe, irrepeatable experience.

But we expected more words from you. You have to show us that slice of the genius' mind you saw today! Don't say "How to Name it?!" You can! Mavane You shud :lol:

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
30th April 2012, 12:43 AM
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/576401_331556263577344_139580846108221_825204_4726 60421_n.jpg

Keep watching here for more pics
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.331556166910687.76788.139580846108221&type=3

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
30th April 2012, 12:50 AM
https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23HowToNameIt
https://twitter.com/#!/search/%22how%20to%20name%20it%22

V_S
30th April 2012, 12:59 AM
Poorva jenma palan, they call it.
Absolutely Pum, No doubt about it. This happens only once in a lifetime and more than you are all lucky, I feel you all have been personally invited by Maestro, very fortunate souls. Enjoy the show!. Very happy and thrilled to read all your posts and skv's hot tweets and pictures.

Sureshs65
30th April 2012, 01:12 AM
I know I missed it. Just landed in Blore today from Hyd and a very important meeting first thing in the morning tomorrow. Maybe I should have postponed that meeting and gone off to Chennai instead of coming to Blr. But then, as Raja himself would say, you get what is written for you!!!

My twitter timeline has been ecstatic about the concert. Now waiting for someone like skr/KV/Plum to write more details. More eagerly waiting for someone to upload the videos.

skr
30th April 2012, 01:51 AM
Plum ,
You are absolutely right.
I am just speechless and dunno what to say. It was a experience of a lifetime.
The world may come to an end someday but Raaja's music will live for ever.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
30th April 2012, 02:07 AM
R.Parthiepan ‏ @rparthiepan
how to name it " இளையராஜா live கேட்டேன். ஒரு டிக்கெட்டின் விலை:என் இன்றிரவு தூக்கம்!

K
30th April 2012, 07:22 AM
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.395972013780234.98263.112842955426476&type=1

V_S
30th April 2012, 07:37 AM
K, mikka naNdri for sharing the pictures. Was waiting for this. It seems a bigger programme than NBW (definitely the tracks are more in HTNI, added to that, film hits as well).

jaiganes
30th April 2012, 07:41 AM
K, mikka naNdri for sharing the pictures. Was waiting for this. It seems a bigger programme than NBW (definitely the tracks are more in HTNI, added to that, film hits as well).

not just that.. this is one album statement by raaja on his theory of peesan. so it is historically significant in a art-history.

V_S
30th April 2012, 07:58 AM
Agreed word to word, Jai. When I first looked at the cassette cover when this album was released, I didn't understand most of the terms, if not all; Mad mod mood fugue (?), I met Bach (Who is Bach??), Chamber(??) welcomes Thyagaraja, Don't compare (with what and/or whom), do anything (??), you cannot be free (from what?) and most of all, How to Name it (?). Mysteriously named titles. To be honest, just these track names invoked so much surprise in us. Until we heard, definitely we were not sure it is from Maestro, as all the track names were greek to us, having listened to only film songs from him. Once we were into it, as you said, it an important history in art and the term 'fusion' got its actual meaning at last. Just the thought of it still reverberates in us. To witness such a programme live will get us the actual meaning of our life, which I missed. :sad:

Bala (Karthik)
30th April 2012, 08:11 AM
Plum! We know what we are about to miss! I already explained here! THe feel we get in these kind of shows, than tha Mega crowded Endrendrum Raja types, is taht we will feel more close to Raja, which, of course is rare, irreplaceabe, irrepeatable experience.

:exactly: IOW, if he is able to establish *that* kind of a connect in those mass shows (Mrs Jesudass in Janani Janani, Maasatra Sodhi in 2005, goosebumps lady, Aayiram Thaamarai Mottukkale in 2011), imagine the bond in a show like this



But we expected more words from you. You have to show us that slice of the genius' mind you saw today! Don't say "How to Name it?!" You can! Mavane You shud :lol:
:yes: Kamaan
KV Anand romba naala post panna maatteengaraar....

jaiganes
30th April 2012, 08:33 AM
:exactly: IOW, if he is able to establish *that* kind of a connect in those mass shows (Mrs Jesudass in Janani Janani, Maasatra Sodhi in 2005, goosebumps lady, Aayiram Thaamarai Mottukkale in 2011), imagine the bond in a show like this


:yes: Kamaan
KV Anand romba naala post panna maatteengaraar....
ungal oorla kooda programmes keedhu pola?

Bala (Karthik)
30th April 2012, 08:38 AM
Jai
Puriliye....

venkkiram
30th April 2012, 08:42 AM
குமுதம் இணையத்தள ரபி பெர்னார்டு - ரஹ்மான் நேர்காணலில் "எழுபத்தைந்து வருட இந்தியத் திரையுலக இசை வரலாற்றில் முக்கியமானவைகளாக நீங்கள் கருதுபவைகள் என்ன?" என்ற கேள்விக்கு ராஜாவின் How To Name It ஆல்பம் என்பதையும் குறிப்பிட்டார்.

எல்லோரது வாழ்க்கையில் இந்த ஆல்பம் பலதரப்பட்ட உணர்வுகளை எழுச்சியுற வைத்திருக்கும். என் வாழ்க்கையில் மறக்கமுடியாத நிகழ்ச்சிகளில் ஒன்று என்றால்..கல்லூரி இரண்டாமாண்டு வாழ்க்கை. வார இறுதியில் வந்த பிறந்தநாள் அன்று நகரத்திற்கு நண்பர்களோடு சென்று மதியக்காட்சி திரைப்படம், சாயந்திரம் முழுதும் நகரின் முக்கிய சாலைகளில் அரட்டை அடித்து நடந்து.. ஹோட்டலில் மது அருந்தி இரவுணவையும் முடித்து விடுதி திரும்பினால் நேரம் பதினொன்றரை. போதை இன்னும் இறங்கவில்லை. கேக் வெட்டி, கிரீட்டிங் கார்டு கொடுத்து..எல்லோரையும் அனுப்பிவிட்டு விளக்கணைத்து தூங்கப்போனால், கதவைத் தட்டி நெருங்கிய நண்பன் "உனக்கொரு பரிசு, தலையணைக்கு கீழே வைத்திருக்கிறேன். உனக்கு கண்டிப்பாக பிடிக்கும் என நினைக்கிறேன்!" என சொல்லிவிட்டு நகந்தபோது, ஓடிப்போய் தலையைனையை தூக்கினால், ராஜா முகத்தோடு இந்த ஆல்பம். அப்படியே வாக்மேனில் போட்டு... இருவிதமான போதைகள் ஊனை உலுக்குகிறது. மனம் கட்டுப்பாடில்லாமல் பறக்க ஆரம்பிக்கிறது பலத் திசைகளில். வாழ்வில் இனிமையான தருணங்களில் முக்கியமானதாக நான் இன்றும் நினைக்கும் ஒன்று!

Gregorysab
30th April 2012, 09:37 AM
I know I missed it. Just landed in Blore today from Hyd and a very important meeting first thing in the morning tomorrow. Maybe I should have postponed that meeting and gone off to Chennai instead of coming to Blr. But then, as Raja himself would say, you get what is written for you!!!

My twitter timeline has been ecstatic about the concert. Now waiting for someone like skr/KV/Plum to write more details. More eagerly waiting for someone to upload the videos.

Suresh,

I hear that the concert will happen in Bangalore, Delhi & Pune also.. BUT NOT IN HYDERABAD!! BLOODY DISCRIMINATION!!!:banghead::angry2::angry2::banghe ad:

Devaraagam
30th April 2012, 10:59 AM
Suresh,

I hear that the concert will happen in Bangalore, Delhi & Pune also.. BUT NOT IN HYDERABAD!! BLOODY DISCRIMINATION!!!:banghead::angry2::angry2::banghe ad:

Hmm..you can travel when you decided to banglore, pune from hydrabad.

my dears, again and again do not make me upset by posting HTNI live related news. pls post some videos/audio like NBW posts by rajasaranam :)

K
30th April 2012, 12:10 PM
http://tamil.oneindia.in/movies/awards/2012/04/norway-tamil-film-festival-awards-2012-aid0136.html
தமிழ் சினிமாவுக்காக உலக அளவில் நடத்தப்படும் நார்வே தமிழ் திரைப்பட விழா 2012-ல்
சிறந்த இசை அமைப்பாளர் விருது அழகர்சாமியின் குதிரை படத்துக்காக இசைஞானி இளையராஜாவுக்கு வழங்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.

Gregorysab
30th April 2012, 01:34 PM
I think NEPV audio will be out in May. Time is ticking!

Plum
30th April 2012, 01:38 PM
llaiyaraja is a humble man. Only, his humility is not the humility of the ignorant or the *mediocre. It is the humility of a genius. Naturally,* a major part of our society, which is obviously not a genius cannot understand his humility. I am neither but thankfully, I have been given the gift of comprehending the humility of a genius. So, what do I mean by that? There were at least 2 instances from a special concert held on 29th April.

The excuse was the silver jubilee of his iconic album “How to Name It”. But, as it happens on such occasions, it was a celebration of his genius, and much more.*The first surfaced when he spoke about L Subramanian, whose prodigy of a son, Ambi Subramanian, hailed as the “future of Indian music” by Anil Srinivasan, compere for the event and a renowned pianist himself, performed a majority of the “pieces” from the album, in the concert.

He spoke about growing as another “kozhandhai” of the Subramanian household along with LS himself, and his talented and renowned brothers, Vaidyanathan and Shankar.*There was humility in his tone when he said this – rather unusual if you ask the usual critics of the man – but then this, friends, is the humility of genius. It bows only before supreme talent. It is not the humility of the mediocre – think AVM Saravanan – which praises anyone and everyone and acknowledges even minor capability in others. That humility is a façade for a non-controversial existence, hoping not to rub anyone the wrong way. That is humility towards humans.

Genius is humble, too – but only before their art, their discipline. Naturally, followers of the “humility mafia” will never understand this. Nor would a majority of the society, even if they aren’t part of the humility mafia. I consider myself blessed that I can comprehend this aspect of a genius’s mind. If you don’t, I pity you.I am more blessed than you are.

The second surfaced when he chided his own daughter for allowing such songs as “hey unnai thane” to be performed on an evening which was a dedication to two great composers, which this album was 25 years ago, performed on this day under the gaze of gigantic images of them. “But these are your songs, appA”, said Bhavadharini, the daughter who successfully evoked maa sentiment twice before with him on the day. “So?” said the man. That one word sums up his humility – the only kind that matters to real lovers of music. “Don’t be so humble, you are not that great” goes an unknown saying, and there is no better illustration of this genius from a remote village of Tamilnadu. The saying refers to the false humility we alluded to before, which is not present in this man. His humility lies in his recognition of his place in the pantheon – he knows exactly where he stands in reference to his Gods, and while music theory isn’t a strong suit of this writer, it is easy to follow from the few slices of his mind that he exposed on the day, as to how rational his placement of himself in that pantheon is.

The other aspect that emerged, and a rarity for such concerts, is the child-like wonder in his voice when he started talking about JS Bach, and the genius of the Western Classical Musician considered part of the holy trinity of WC. He started explaining the features of Bach’s fugue, getting Anil to demonstrate it on his piano live. He checked himself at some point, voicing that it is not his call to go into such details of theory but couldn’t help articulating his wonder at Bach’s creation of an “invertible counterpoint with 10 bars”, while writing it with 8 bars, which is apparently the “ABC” of such efforts, takes him “ whopping one hour”.You read it right – he does that in one hour, and that is not good enough for him. Do we even comprehend that?

Obviously, this aspect of his mind doesn’t usually exhibit itself while talking with common folks such as us. Last I have heard him talk about invertible counterpoints is in Guitar Prasanna’s account of his personal conversations with Raja, where-in , Raja, apparently, asked Prasanna child-like about whether the latter had managed to write a 32nd invertible counterpoint, or something like that. The gnaanasoonyam in me will never remember. What separated this concert from others, which I have seen only on TV, was not just that I saw Him Live but also that for some reason, he opened up to a bunch of musical illiterates, which I am making the presumption that most of the crowd was. Not that we would understand much of it, but the fact that the genius chose us to talk to, is an experience that not many fo you will get.

Which is why, in my first account, I had talked about poorva jenma palan. As I said then, there are two categories of people in this world now – those who* have poorva jenma palan, and these are the ones who attended the concert yesterday, and the other is one who don’t, and these are the people who didn’t attend the concert yesterday. I regret to say, folks, if you are in the latter category, you have wasted your Life.

San_K
30th April 2012, 01:40 PM
laiyaraja is a humble man. Only, his humility is not the humility of the ignorant or the *mediocre. It is the humility of a genius :)

yov plum enter key-nu onnu irukkuyaa

Plum
30th April 2012, 01:51 PM
I'd like to thank our Wizzy whole-heartedly for getting me the tickets. Left to myself, I 'd never have got round to booking the tickets circumnavigating the usually tedious process of clicking a thousand five hundred and thirty six links. Wizzy, it turns out, is a young, dynamic entrepreneur, and thankfully not the "evil, who-knows-what-kind-of stranger from a forum" that my wife warned me panickingly when I told her I am going out to a concert, with the tickets to be brought by an unknown stranger whom I only know as "wizzy" in an online forum. "Don't eat anything he gives", she warned me concernedly. "Don't worry", I said, "we'll not have the tinme to think about food or beverages". And so it turned out, and I must acknowledge that both wizzy and KV are nice, pleasant young boys, with KV especially surpassing all of us in his commitment to Raja, travelling down from Bangalore just for this concert, upsetting his parents in the process and ignoring the duty of a bunch of relatives at home in Bangalore apparently. I guess he must have been barely born when HTNI was released. KaNgaL paniththana, idhayam nanaindhadhu.

Plum
30th April 2012, 01:54 PM
San-k - enter key unfortunately is a problem for me. Hub doesn't recognise mine. I wish there was a solution to this.

Gregorysab
30th April 2012, 01:57 PM
Plum has a single point agenda (even in his huge paragraphs). To make others who couldnt attend the concert (like me) feel like useless insignificant creatures! go easy dude :-( i can understand your thoughts and we all know we missed something spectacular!.. but spare us and go easy :-(

Plum
30th April 2012, 02:09 PM
Some nuggets from my random notes:

*** wish there was a seat- cam between IR and LS. As the two chatted away during and after the performance of individual pieces, what would I not have given to be a bedbug on the seat

***Wiz and KV suspected that "Plum" had spent a proxy to the concert. Apparently, they expected me to look like AK Hangal, based on my hub personality. You have seen too much of the malayalam film "salt and pepper", guys.

*** a couple of ladies just behind us when Anil Srinivasan introduced Chamber welcomes Thiagaraja *s "let's now welcome Raja, not Ilayaraja but Thiyagaraja" : the response from the ladies: "reNdum oNNu dhaanEppA". Neither was a looker but just for that comment, if only I were uncommitted...:lol:

***karthikeyan nuggets will be a separate post by themselves

***for skv and bala: IR talked about how Kamal visited the studio during the recording of htni, and how he'd keep humming the tunes. There was his theory about how raagas aren't that important in the bigger scheme of things, and how a musical piece simply reflects the "manobhavam" of the composer/perfor$er at the time of composition/performance. Oru maadhiri puriydhu - and very consistent with his philo of spontaneity - but to comprehend that fully, I guess you have to be Raja himself. " If you play it, your mental condition will reflect in your music". That's the quote - make what you will of it.

Plum
30th April 2012, 02:18 PM
Aakarsh, sorry. But you've got to make allowances for my mindset. I mean, in what is largely meaningless lives we live, this is the sort of spark that doesn't even happen once in any of our liftpetime. It may be pure luck that it happened to me this time but idhukku kooda perumai, garvam, pogaru pada lEdhantE elA? It is like when you were in School, right, and your cousin from Chicago presented you that funky toy or whatever. You were just lucky you got it and your classmates, but would you stop boasting about it? Fat chance! I am going to be on this High for the rest of my Life. "Yo little boy", I'll ask my grandson, "its alright you might have gone to the moon and all", I'd say, "but did you attend that concert by IR in 2012 and did you get a peek of his genius mind", I'd rib "thought not. Now that should shut you up from yapping all about your lunar tour and stuff".

Sureshs65
30th April 2012, 04:36 PM
Plum,

Fully agree with you. Those are the same points I have been making and fighting it out whenever the humility bit comes in. As I always claim, Raja is humble towards his art. I don't care if he is not humble towards me. His humility to art is evident in the fact that he is even now learning Jazz music, though he has composed quite a few pieces based on jazz. And the constant innovation of his. You are lucky to hear him speak, that is for sure.

And yes, skr and KV are very dedicated Raja fans. The amount of Raja's music they listen to and the wonder with which they listen to puts me at ease. One more generation will carry forward what Raja does. And the good thing is , unlike our gen, these guys are not stuck up only in 80s. There are quite a few in the hub who are 80s only folks but skr, KV and Hulk type of folks love the late 90s and 2000s Raja as much as they love the 80s Raja. And this is definitely good for Raja has created much magic in the 90s and 2000s as well.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
30th April 2012, 04:46 PM
Plum has a single point agenda (even in his huge paragraphs). To make others who couldnt attend the concert (like me) feel like useless insignificant creatures! go easy dude :-( i can understand your thoughts and we all know we missed something spectacular!.. but spare us and go easy :-(

THats not agenda but plain, sad truth, aakarsh! If that feel makes us to go to his next live-concert, i will ask Plum to give more of it. And we, those who were able to but didn't attend, deserve that nitpicking, and Plum is kind of right person who does that all the time :lol: but this time it serves a purpose

San_K
30th April 2012, 05:45 PM
Thats fine. But I guess plum missed NBW concert and now he attended HTNI concert, appo miss panninathukku avaru enna solluraaru :lol:

BTW As Bhava said, there will not be any TV telecast? I thought it is some trick by her to gain crowd for concert (absolutely no neeed for this, ofcourse). Really no telecast? If not, atleast they should release DVD.

Bala (Karthik)
30th April 2012, 05:51 PM
Thanks Plum

San_K
What? No TV telecast-a????????? WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sure shot :Tea Kudippu:

venkkiram
30th April 2012, 05:58 PM
What? In HTNI concert, they perfomed "yey unnaithaane!"? Sort of thrishti pottu to the whole concert! Its :sigh: feeling to me when I saw pictures of Venkat Prabhu brothers holding the mikes! Please please stay away from holy album concert going forward!

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
30th April 2012, 06:10 PM
Plum, I am posting your writeup in twitter, with due credits to you!

https://twitter.com/#!/tekvijay/status/196941760709136385

Bala (Karthik)
30th April 2012, 06:16 PM
What? In HTNI concert, they perfomed "yey unnaithaane!"? Sort of thrishti pottu to the whole concert! Its :sigh: feeling to me when I saw pictures of Venkat Prabhu brothers holding the mikes! Please please stay away from holy album concert going forward!
:lol:

Plum
30th April 2012, 06:34 PM
Skv, most welcome. Enakku creditlAm thEvaiyE illai. DeivamE anand milind avaroda aRpudha padaippai thiruduiyadhukku enna sollichu? AppERpatta mahonnadha padaippugaLukkE avar kavalai padalai - nammaLodA afterall postukkA namma credit edhirpArkkaradhu?

Bala (Karthik)
30th April 2012, 06:40 PM
Plum
Please use your influence and make KV Anand and Rajasaranam post here.....

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
30th April 2012, 07:29 PM
Ilayaraja's 'How To Name It?' - Revival of acoustic music era - IndiaGlitz (http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/81612.html)

In 1986, Maestro Ilayaraja came out with his first ever non-film music album - 'How to name it?' The instrumental album paid respects to Johann Sebastian Bach and Thyagaraja. Now, 25 years later, celebrating the silver jubilee of the album, a concert was organized at the Anna Centenary Library Auditorium by Sabari Raja of Absolute management. Raaga.com was the official online media partner of the event.

Raaga.com & IndiaGlitz conducted an online contest for the event and gave away free tickets for all the winners who were all visibly excited for getting a chance to see such a historical event that brought together musical legends.

Anil Srinivasan, the classical pianist was the host for the show. The concert began with Bhavatharani rendering 'Janani Janani...' from the film 'Sri Raghavendhra', which was dedicated to her late mother Jeeva Ilayaraja. It sparked off what was going to be a scintillating concert that included some of the best acoustic live music heard in Chennai in the last few decades.

The concert was conducted by Prabakhar, Ilayaraja's close associate, who has collaborated with him for 25 years and was performed by the maestro's own 40-man orchestra that included a full string section featuring 20 violinists. Playing the tunes of all the tracks from the album, the crew set the standards for future instrumental concerts at the auditorium. Before each song, Anil Srinivasan took his time to explain unique aspects of the track in detail and enlightened the crowd with information about counterpoints, trios, fugues, paritas and polyphony to name a few.

Ambi Subramaniam, the 19 year old violinist and the son of the legendary L. Subramaniam played the lead and got standing a ovation for the title track. Just when you begin to wonder how a 19-year old boy can create so much magic, the audience was surprised by another youngster, Aadithya Ganesh, a 15 year old who joined Ambi and also played a few solos. Rajesh Vaidhya, Veena Vidwan and Kalaimamani recipient also graced the stage and played along with the rest of the members.

Once the first section came to an end, the guests of honors of the event, Maestro Ilayaraja and legendary violinist L Subramaniam took stage and gave speeches. Ilayaraja spilled the beans on how the entire album was composed and recorded in 3 days back in 1986. Upon the frantic request of the crowd, he also sang a song of his choice in "Sadda Sadda Unnai" about ramanar and was backed by Rajesh Vaidhya without any prior rehearsals or practice.

The second part of the concert comprised of Ilayaraja's hit numbers and they were performed by top singers including Sriram Parthasarathy, Haricharan, Sathyan, Bhavatharani and Pop Shalini. The song 'Megam...' from the movie 'Enakkul Oruvan' were by the brothers in Ilayaraja's family - Karthik Raja, Venkat Prabhu, Yuvan Shankar Raja and Premji Amaren.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
30th April 2012, 07:29 PM
Ilayaraja's 'How To Name It?' A Splendid Affair - Photos (http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/events/33864.html)

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
30th April 2012, 07:38 PM
THe link i posted yesterday, updated with 33 fotos, Excellent ones, shows the ambiance and mood perfectly!

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.331556166910687.76788.139580846108221&type=3

Sample this!

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Plum
30th April 2012, 07:42 PM
Reg my ribs on jenma sabalyam etc, don't take it too seriously. Obviously, as I was telling KV and Wizzy yesterday, I attended this only because the venue was just 15 mins away from home. There is no reason for me to flaunt pride at my raja-loyalty etc. I am the least committed Raja follower here possibly. What I meant was irundhirundhu once in a blue moon, I attended a concert - and it turned out to be a historic event with unprecedented connect to the man. Adhai thaan poorva jenma palan endrEn. What else could it be when more committed followers missed just this one opportunity and missed out on the connect while I took just this one opp and it hit the bulls' eye?

venkkiram
30th April 2012, 07:46 PM
Plum, usually you kuthirai thaaNdufying only against a person or a group of few. This time, using this HTNI concert opportunity you jumped nicely on the whole jana samoothiram!

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
30th April 2012, 07:53 PM
Heard glimpses of Raja Speech. As usual great!

Fans, as usual torchaal :evil: Always clapping passing comments, irritating! Netizens aa ivlo uncultured aa irukkaanga :shock: Won't you guys don't know how to remain silent and make noises ONLY at gaps and at the end?!? Shame on you guys

app_engine
30th April 2012, 08:07 PM
jana samoothiram!

:rotfl:

Plum oru adi adichchA neenga 100 adi adikkiReenga :-)

jaiganes
30th April 2012, 08:20 PM
On the morning drive to office, I heard this gem in Iowa Public Radio..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUCgS7OYtvE
Indha Raaja, Lsubbu, Rahman ivingallaam sendhu idhai maadhiri oru piece poattaal nalla irukumyaa.
Andha piecekku namma santosh sivanai vechu oru pichurisashan panninaal innyuum sooperaa irukkumla.

V_S
30th April 2012, 08:41 PM
Plum,
Thoroughly enjoyed your posts, but as you expressed authoritatively, it is the biggest miss and sin of my lifetime, since I have not attended. Also this is my top most soundtrack not just Maestro's. Only one excuse I can give is distance I am at. Nice to read about Maestro's fascinating mind and the 'right' humility through you. :clap: He is the one who introduced me to Western trinity; Bach, Mozart and Beethoven and the whole world of western classical music and expanded my horizons from a very narrow musical sense to wider perspectives (whatever little I could grasp), of course through many friends like you all, bloggers and musicians who sincerely brought-forth his musical genius and diversity. In short, he answered, how the music should be and how to listen to it. Whatever music sense I have cultivated over these years, it is only because of Maestro and I owe him a lot. If he has already expanded my horizons and ready to expand my vision today to witness this show and also seeking a rare opportunity to see him (only once I got a opportunity to see him while I was in college, but very very far though in Nehru Stadium, Coimbatore), I know how costly this miss could be, a miss of a lifetime. No two thoughts about it.


vennkiram,
Wonderfully written about your college memories and HTNI. Thanks to your friend.:smile:

Expecting more from KV, wizzy, skr and others who witnessed the show.

NormalMan
30th April 2012, 08:56 PM
What did IR say about Karthik Raja?

baroque
30th April 2012, 09:09 PM
:ty: for the FACEBOOK- PHOTOS SET!





Heard glimpses of Raja Speech. As usual great!

Fans, as usual torchaal :evil: Always clapping passing comments, irritating! Netizens aa ivlo uncultured aa irukkaanga :shock: Won't you guys don't know how to remain silent and make noises ONLY at gaps and at the end?!? Shame on you guys


I haven't listened to the speech yet.

thanks for all the updates, will enjoy with Raja's sedhi tonight.

but regarding... silent aa erukkaradhu!

namba jantha konjam appadithaan erukkanga.... yennu theriyalai?

go to theater, just sit calmly before the previews, trailers... panna maattanga!

pesittey eruppanga... same AMC theaters complex, enter & check inside a non-Indian film theater, people will be sitting quiet.

Even before the movie starts, namba jantha give you headaches!:roll::(

vinatha.

Nerd
30th April 2012, 09:27 PM
Plum, lucky you!

I have seen him once - ThiruvaNNAmalai around 2003. Was too overwhelmed and before I could react, he was gone.

Was in India in December last year. The concert happened on the ONLY date in the entire freaking month in which I could not attend. I was so mad during the entire trip. America vaanga sir :oops:

Plum
30th April 2012, 09:40 PM
# That his music is yet to be comprehended fully by even trained personnel came to the fore when Anil Srinivasan confidently introduced "Mad mod mood fugue", talking about how fugue segues into waves of melodies and how he found atleast six in this when 2 or 3 is the usual norm. Just a piece later, he had to sheepishly announce that Raja had called him in between the piece and informed him that this wasn't a fugue in the first place! This was the state of a renowned pianist who has been widely respected for his musical acumen in music circles of Chennai. Imagine what kind of surface scratching TFM fans have done over the years then?

## the fans - yes, they were an unruly mob and a lot of them were keen on passing smart alec comments - while I am fine with the "thiagarajarum ilayarajavum onnu dhaaneppa" kind of comments, it wasn't at all edifying to hear the constant interruption of pieces with applause even as the performance was in progress, the smart alecs who showed off their prowess by whistling the tunes just in advance and gave an unwelcome impromptu sing-along during the performance :banghead:, and my kolaiveRi is reserved for the gentleman who, when the crowd was urging Raja to sing and suggesting a wide variety of songs for the purpose, quoted kolaiveri song. Enge vandhu ennadaa pEsuRa, even assuming you just wanted to sound funny? I was half expecting Sir to shout "ore edathula okkarndhaa neeyum naanum onnaa". But He wasn't in that kind of mood, hence the crowd escaped.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
30th April 2012, 10:01 PM
Avar paavamga! Even in the NothingButWind Concert, these non-sense crowd was givng taarchal then and there, and the tipping of ice is, when a fan shouted and interrupted "ungaLaala mattum thaan mudiyum" at a point, when Raja was speaking. He really got irritated and said "Tha chi! summaa iru. Neeyum naanum ore idathula irukkomgrathaala enna vENaa pesidrathaa" and left a gap, then continued. Mahaa Paavam illayaa :cry: :evil: Interrupting and irritating a Mind of Genius, who, already caught between heavy traffinc of thoughts in his Terra Hertz speed Mind, getting interrupt.

Even after this, when Vaali was speaking, again a real stupid commented something meaning that vaali was ushaar enuf to "earn well", Raja reacted with a gesture "Ennayyaa ithu?! Ippadiyaa pesurathu??". This time he didn;t speak but only did a hand and facial gesture. Just think. This comment after already Raja becoming and expressing his anger once.

The most shocking thing is, even after all this, those on stage who had access to Mic - RohiNi, Arigiri Mottai guy(forgot his name), BhavathaariNi, and few others, none of them cared to get Mic and pass a soft warning to the crowd to keep quiet.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
30th April 2012, 10:03 PM
If anyone gets an un edited version of his speech in NBW Live concert, they can see Raja say ""Tha chi! summaa iru." Enna kobam. ippadi kovappada vaitha antha rasigarai, naan SaabamE viduven! What to do, i am a poor guy and my Curses don't have power.

Plum
30th April 2012, 10:13 PM
# kitta thitta Kamal mAdhiri multi-threaded speech - at one point, he started off explaining how he wrote "Study for Violin" in the flight from Malaysia to HongKong, while travelling to attenda Paul Maria(t silent, and I didnt know that until Raja pronounced it as Maria yesterday). It started off with the fact that there was a Mariat concert in Hong Kong, went to Paris(fast forward a few years later) where Maria explained to him how it was impossible to change even a note in the works of WCM maestros("Can you change even a note", Mariat asked me, said Raja), and that in turn was a tangent from his explanation of how Kalyani wasnt his favourite raga as Anil Srinivasan had ill-informedly guessed in his compering. Infact, this was preceded by a lengthy self-made short story to illustrate why Ragas arent that important in the bigger scheme of music, and how music simply reflects the manodharma of the musician/performer at the point of composition/performance. A parallel thread ran in the same segment of conversation wherein he explained how he used to walk 200 miles just for listening to/learning music(I lost trakc of whether he meant himself or Saint Thiagaraja who did this) and licking a chappi pOtta mAngottai** to satisfy hunger in the meanwhile, such was the devotion to music. He also recalled how his brother used to beat him up(vividly expaining the process of pirambadi on the fingers like only a sensitive artist can) for touching his harmonium, and how Bach had a similar incident in his life, wherein his brother used to beat him up for touching his music books, and how Bach's aNNi used to help him steal the book to the terrace in moonlight for copying the notes - and how that helped Bach master clasical music, the process of writing being considered a scientific tool for memorizing and imbibing a subject. At this point, he came back to the "Can you change a note?" meme, and explained how the geniuses did what their manodharmam at that moment dictated, and that stands as reference and musical theory for us today to explore. He linked this to why he cannot answer Karthikeyan's very perceptive question on how the crowd wanted him to explain the thought process behind the creation of each piece(I dont know about the others in the crowd, but this was what i was baying for in my mind, and true to my telepathy with him, it was Karthikeyan who latched on to this point and pushed his father to answer. enakkum Karthikeyanukkum oru connect irukku. meendum uNarndhEn. sari idhu thani thread. idhukku appuRam varrEn). That is when he gave the widely reported punchline "If I understand and explain the process, music will stop coming".

Now, read that paragraph again and understand the overall thread - I am very proud to say that since I was there, the parallel threads were all sensible and I could fully comprehend the nuances of what he was saying. I dont know if I conveyed it that effectively but I think I have done a very good approximation - and that is why, friends, yesteryda's concert was nothing like what you have ever seen, nor I suspect will be ever seen again.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
30th April 2012, 10:26 PM
Flau, Ultimate yaar! Even NBW concert speech was not as technical as this. This is a real miss!

And that 200 Miles is about Thiyaagaraajar, not Raja himself! He said 3 things in the 3 artists life where they struggled to even have the access to listen music!

Plum
30th April 2012, 10:33 PM
On L Subramaniam, he recalled how he grew up as one of the kozhandhais in LS's father's household. "Lloyds lanela oNNA vaLarndhOm"). This presumably must have been after he started learning from Dhanraj master. He recalled how he wanted to write 24 studies for Violin, and asked LS if he will play "neenga vaasichaa naan ezhudharennu sonnEn but avaru busy-nu sollittu pOittAr"). At this point, LS interjected and jokingly said "enge internal panchayat ellAm publicA solli mAnaththa vAngaRAr" :lol:.

Then LS said "24 studies for violin. I believe you can write".
Our man replied " I can write so many things" :lol: :thumbsup: :bow:
LS acknowledged the truth in that statement with a gesture.
Now, this is what I want from a genius. idhu dhaan fact. A genius must be able to say this about himself - worldly humility requirements be damned. ulagam enna nenaikkumnu nenaichu idhai sollAma vudaRa talented person genius kedayAdhu.

Then, commenting on Ambi, he recalled how, as a child, Ambi used to cry that his father scolds him saying he is playing the music too fast. Raja recalled that he advised the young Ambi to retort to his father that "avasaram illainA musicE illainu sollu avar kitta". :rotfl:


Some more nuggets:
#I dont remember which piece but a piece played in Trombone was actually written for 2 guitars, it seems. It was recorded in 2 parts but the result was not satisfactory hence he decided to restructure it to Trombone

## We had a lec-dem of this so it is difficult to explain in words but let me try. "In Western countries, children et to know harmony, melody etc by the time they are 4. It took me 27 years to know a weestern scale even though I had been playing music for years before that." It was on a Bach record during the time he was working for GKV. He saved for 3 months to buyt 3 records in Poppat Jamaal(one by Bach, one by Chaurasia and one dont remember). "Oho idhu dhaan (E major or whatever) scaleAnu nenaicnhudEn". Then he hums the first few notes of the Bach fugue - and slowly shows us the process of "Ada idhu namma charukesi pOla irukkE". "All I did was to write an indian counter-melody for it that's all". **** DEMONSTRATES IT!!!!!!*****

"So, music epdi varudhunnu epdi solRadhu. uNmaiyAna music engEyo irukku, naama engeyo pOROm. WCM, ICM, FolkOda isai mudinju pOchA? andhandha periodla periyavanga avanga mind frequencykku thONinadhbai paNNinAnga adhu namakku innikku referenceA vandhu nikkudhu"

"ippO Thulasi dhalamuna(Chamber welcomes thiagaraja piece) vai ippadi ellAm pAduvOmnu Thiagarajar nenaichiruppArA? idhu evLO kodumai :lol:.". It is at this point that he turns towards Yuvan and says "Yuvan, Thiagarajar pAttu iLaingargaLukkAnadhu". Presumably, Yuvan must have expressed his ignorant dismissal of Thiagarajar as "fit for old men" music at some point which is why I think he specifically addressed Yuvan for this when Thiagarajar came up for discussion. At this point, he made a self-dig "avaru pAttai nAn pAadina adhu light music Ayidum" :lol:

All this segued into "enakku kalyani pidicha raagam illai. andha nErathula thOnithu paNNinEn avLo dhAn".





kosuRu: the 2 pieces of paper he wrote 2 studies for violin, as to be expected, are lost forever.

Plum
30th April 2012, 10:44 PM
Karthikeyan Nuggets
===============

1. As I explained, it was Karthik who represented the crowd and urged Raja to explain the process, which is what led to the fascinating peek into the genius's mind. Karthik asked exactly the questions I had in my mind. Telpathy, telepathy!!

2. "We love you Karthik" shouted a smart alec after IR wound up his explanation. And he has my full approval for it, although KV pointed that I had competition now. I half-suspect that the gentleman in question was none other than our mumbairamki, which hopefully means there is no new competition among my Karthik fan club, consisting of 2 members in the world - MR and myself.

3. The Bach record that Raja bought, Raja said, is what used to be played to months old Karthik as thirupalli ezhuchi and as thaalaattu. In my paravasam, I dont remember the exact words, but a lengthy praise of his elder son followed with "That is why he is an unique musician, is Karthik. There is no one like him". : paravasam : , : pulagaangidham :, :sAndrOn ena kEtta thaai:

4. Yuvan was teased during the Thiagarajar story, Bhavadha got a nice reprimand for the choice of songs to be sung under the gaze of Thiagaraja and Bach but HIS voice when talking about Karthikeyan..........:wavecollar:.....it was abundantly clear that the elder-born was the favourite son, and that our Genius considers Karthikeyan as a worthy musician more than any of his other children(admittedly not a tough choice). But it means a lot to me - I am convinced that Karthik is special for IR as much as he is special to me - and not just because karthik is his son. It is clear he doesnt reserve the same level of admiration and respect for his other children. It is more of love, kaNdippu and lording over them as a loving but unbiased father who is not going to give them anything more than what is due to them as credit. With Karthik, whether it is just his fatherly love or not we dont know, but there is a special respect in his tone when he talks about Karthik. As a Karthikeyan fan, this is an Oscar and Grammy combined for my idol. Karthikeya, unakku vAzhkkaila vERa praise thEvai illaidA. nee sAdhichuttadA chellam, idhu pOdhumdA!

Plum
30th April 2012, 10:49 PM
"How To Name it" is very special to me. While I joked that I went to this concert only because it happened close to my house, it is also true that I hold HTNI closer to my heart than NBW, and therefore had an extra motivation to attend this one.

What do God-fearing students listen to before examinations? Kandar Sashti Kavacham, perhaps? Vishnu Sahasranamam? Aiyappan Paamaalai? Yesu Thudhi? Allah Allah? Well, I used to listen to HTNI every day before leaving for my 10th and 12th examinations. The BGM in my mind as I wrote the exams was predominantly "Do Anything" and "How to Name it".

Even now, when I hear some portions of these pieces, vague memories of my Mathematics and Chemistry question papers in my board exams float in my mind.

You know what, such is the power of this God that I ended up with 99 in Chemistry in 12th when I had attempted all of 90 marks worth of questions :lol:

wizzy
30th April 2012, 10:52 PM
difficult job to follow up on Plum gaaru's post so doing a quick bullet points on the show..pliss not to expect technicalities on the music front..for that listen to the man himself at the end of this post.

-We planned to meet on or about 5pm to beat the queue and as my luck would have it my vehicle clanked and had to hop on two vehicles to get to the venue.

-KV and his band of friends drove all the way from Bang so that he could attend the show..taking devotion to music to uncharted levels :bow:

-Plum gaaru was the first to reach the venue and promptly updated the status in hub*

-I had visualized Plum to be Mr.Grumpy guy but much to my/our utter surprise he was no where close to being one ;-)

-KV too might have harbored similar doubts hence popped the proxy ref. and Plum had to retort to that post* to proclaim his identity :lol:

-After all the ice-breaking chats/kisu-kisu on things related to music/movies/hub/celeb spotting we were probably the last men left stranded in the queue.

-to our horror we found that queue which we were busy attending to was only to get the tickets verified and there was yet another queue running parallel to enter the auditorium.

- that called for command/control so we had to literally barge in and ended up with seats for which we ought to have paid twice the amount :lol2:

- found out this was Plum's first one-one with the god..was hoping he wouldn't faint with the Vishwaroopa darisanam with piano et al.
- the darisanam was at 6.45pm to a thundering applause and inexplicably it was nerve wracking exp. :shaking: for me..can't think anyone invoking similar pheelings.

- Bhava started the show with 'Janani' as a dedication to her mom and did a fairly competent job when pitted against her erstwhile stage performances.

- Anil Srinivasan(pianist+host) took it over from then and quizzed on how many peeps present were the bhakhts :lol: and warmed up by playing some bgms to a rapturous response and then rambled on what it takes to be a genius and why IR is special vis-a-vis other composers.

-'Do anything' was first track to played..when Ballesh took over..the audience took it onto themselves to down it with their applause :-(

-All this while we thot the kid in the first row of the string section was Ambi Subramaniam who later performed the duo with him.

-Ambi started with HTNI..nervy start..took a while to settle down.

-Two thumbs up the guys on the bass/drums


Jarring notes

- The guy on control knob must have been a noob..he had no clue about acoustics and pushed string section volume too low or high..same with the keys and we couldn't hear flute in 'Do anything'

- the intros to the tracks could have been done better..we later found out the CD from which they took notes had the track names goofed up hence the turbulence.

- seems Arulmozhi has given this concert a miss

- ellam therinja ekambarams torture :banghead: soduking(snapping)/foot-tapping/whistling/ringtones and all the means you could imagine which could deter our listening exp. :evil:

Speech

https://rapidshare.com/files/1808554482/IR-SP1.mp3


https://rapidshare.com/files/4167968321/IR-SP2.mp3

jaiganes
30th April 2012, 10:56 PM
usually i am not a senti guy..
havent been to india/chennai in 5 years - havent missed even 1 minute till today morning.
you guys have made me sick.. and i need to listen to "Agila Agila - OK OK" song in loop for rest of the day to
forget all this..
<closing eyes> This never happened.. There was no concert and raaja did not speak... </closing eyes>

naarayanan
30th April 2012, 10:57 PM
//Then, commenting on Ambi, he recalled how, as a child, Ambi used to cry that his father scolds him saying he is playing the music too fast. Raja recalled that he advised the young Ambi to retort to his father that "avasaram illainA musicE illainu sollu avar kitta". //

plum, i think it was 'abaswaram' not avasaram. :)

Plum
30th April 2012, 10:59 PM
The songs section started of fwell with Om Sivoham by Sriram P with good support on the chorus by Sathyan, Agandhaiyik aaduvadhaa(Feeyar should have been there for this one from uLiyin Osai), and Bavadha singing Ninnai CharanadaindhEN. Wait, it wasnt that bad, honest, She faltered only in "midimaiyum acchamum", and surprisingly, held up very well for the rest of the song. And then the disco stuff took over, and although well intentioned to show off the brass parts and the string section thARumARu craeted by our man, it was clearly out of place under the gaze of Bach and Thiagarajar, something the man himself would point out later. And when Bavadha tried to pass it off as "unga pAttu dhAnEppA", you should have seen his reaction. Daughter or not, it was abundantly clear that you mess up with his musical Gods at your own peril!

Plum
30th April 2012, 11:01 PM
naarayanan, you are right, I guess. nAn paravasa nilaila irukkEn. Forgive me for minor mistakes, please!

Plum
30th April 2012, 11:09 PM
But we expected more words from you. You have to show us that slice of the genius' mind you saw today! Don't say "How to Name it?!" You can! Mavane You shu

I have tried my best - hope you got atleast one millionth of the experience we had, from my words

V_S
30th April 2012, 11:11 PM
# That his music is yet to be comprehended fully by even trained personnel came to the fore when Anil Srinivasan confidently introduced "Mad mod mood fugue", talking about how fugue segues into waves of melodies and how he found atleast six in this when 2 or 3 is the usual norm. Just a piece later, he had to sheepishly announce that Raja had called him in between the piece and informed him that this wasn't a fugue in the first place! This was the state of a renowned pianist who has been widely respected for his musical acumen in music circles of Chennai. Imagine what kind of surface scratching TFM fans have done over the years then?

:omg: Even there, if it is even acceptable, that to comprehend a genius work, it is not that easy, whatever music skills they have. I am more concerned that how people just/frequently dismiss his work without even knowing what they are missing. Poor genius!

Plum,
With all your posts I can only remember Saagara Sangamam climax scene after the dance is over, when Balakrishnan was introduced to the audience
as her Guru, and the audience start applauding, Kamal expresses with this glowing face that he wants to hear more of that and asks them continue
raising his hands. (Greatest film moment for me, that was/is/will be) This was because he was deprived of some great opportunities due to unavoidable circumstances and no one knows his true calibre. First time when he hears this uproar that too for him, he does not want them to stop. He feels that as a true recognition. Similarly your posts serves as that and everyone should read this and Maestro will be proud of. Thank you so much Plum. :notworthy:

When people bring in kolaveri di in this concert, I don't know what to say, except that guy was lucky that I am not there.:twisted:

rajaramsgi
30th April 2012, 11:18 PM
கான்சர்ட் போன அத்தனை பேரும் புண்ணியவான்கள்.
வாசித்தவர்கள்,வழங்கியவர்கள், பங்கு பெற்றவர்கள், அனைவரும் தேவதைகள்.
புது ராகம் படைப்பதாலே ராஜாவும் இறைவனே.

இது போன்ற நிகழ்சிகளில் பங்கு கொள்ள முடியாமல் தவிக்கின்ற கோடானு கோடி பேர் - என்னை போல் பாவிகள்.

எழுத்தால் தொகுத்து வழங்கிய அனைவருக்கும் நன்றி. கேட்க வெட்கமாக இருக்கிறது. யாரேனும் மொபைலில்
நிகழ்ச்சியை சுட்டிருந்தால், பகிர்ந்து கொள்ளுங்களேன்.

app_engine
30th April 2012, 11:19 PM
Great posts, Plum!
:clap: :clap: :clap:

:Pullarips:

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
30th April 2012, 11:27 PM
But we expected more words from you. You have to show us that slice of the genius' mind you saw today! Don't say "How to Name it?!" You can! Mavane You shud :lol:
I have tried my best - hope you got atleast one millionth of the experience we had, from my words

Flau, Even Though I listened to the mp3 files (thanks wizzy :) ) reading ur posts was a simple WOW! I vaguely remember, you were saying in NEPV thread(during fights) and some other thread that you are not interested in dissecting raagaas, writing about music, its feel, write-ups etc. But HTNI and Raja the genius had broke your that very thought and you wrote one of the hubs Most great Write ups! The moment I shared ur 1st post on twitter, that was Re-Tweeted by many and Even i got new followers. Some have Favorited(i guess they bookmark it for future read) That is more than enuf to say! Above all, I am more interested to meet you in next possible hubbers meet.

My only worry is, now what album is there to perfomr live, Thiruvaasagam? very tough right!

Devaraagam
1st May 2012, 12:25 AM
Thats fine. But I guess plum missed NBW concert and now he attended HTNI concert, appo miss panninathukku avaru enna solluraaru :lol:

BTW As Bhava said, there will not be any TV telecast? I thought it is some trick by her to gain crowd for concert (absolutely no neeed for this, ofcourse). Really no telecast? If not, atleast they should release DVD.

Ennathu Telecast kidaiyatha.....we do not have fate to even watch in tv ( correction, youtube. Tvley pottathan someone will record and upload in YouTube )

Plum you were correct we are all in 2nd category

MumbaiRamki
1st May 2012, 12:29 AM
Concert was overall good ( and happy to meet kamesh , rajasaranam ) .. but sometimes the sound volume and tempo was not good consistently - still its a small dent in otherwise exciting program .. Its in the final 6 songs , that it was consistent and i enjoyed them completly ..

MOre importantly , had the opportunity to say a Hi to my man KR :)

rajkumarc
1st May 2012, 12:38 AM
Plum - Super posts on the concert experience :clap: :clap: :clap: I sincerely hope they release a DVD.

Wizzy - Thanks for your post about the concert and sharing IR's speech.

Devaraagam
1st May 2012, 12:45 AM
I am convinced that Karthik is special for IR as much as he is special to me!


Plum, KR is spl for me too just because he is the only MD showcased different style when IR and ARR were showing their styles. World will understand KR once point of time, let's wait until that. Since the thread is ant IR, I m closing this conversation :)

Devaraagam
1st May 2012, 12:54 AM
Plum, at last I read all your post and visualised the concert. Your post gave me some thembu as I was down on Sunday and I m not in chennai and keep on reeling my friends in office that today missing the show. Great write ups.

V_S
1st May 2012, 02:25 AM
wizzy, Thanks for your detail post on the concert. I could really feel I was there. :D Can't wait listen to the links you posted.

V_S
1st May 2012, 06:07 AM
Speech

https://rapidshare.com/files/1808554482/IR-SP1.mp3

https://rapidshare.com/files/4167968321/IR-SP2.mp3
DhanyanaanEn wizzy! :notworthy: Totally enjoyed and laughed all the way. Thanks a lot for taking time and sharing this. He took the show on his own for more than 1/2 hour providing enlightening views and experience combined with his hilarious touches. :notworthy: Really loved the fugue explanation and how he relates to day-to-day activities. That raagam explanation was too good. Fascinating mind indeed! Thank you very much sir! :D

Plum
1st May 2012, 08:34 AM
Mumbairamki, so you were there? Am I right in assuming you were the one who shouted "We love you Karthik" ? :)

AravindMano
1st May 2012, 08:57 AM
Folks, thanks much for writing about your experience. Pleasure reading them.

sureshmehcnit
1st May 2012, 09:35 AM
Karthikeyan Nuggets
===============

1. As I explained, it was Karthik who represented the crowd and urged Raja to explain the process, which is what led to the fascinating peek into the genius's mind. Karthik asked exactly the questions I had in my mind. Telpathy, telepathy!!

2. "We love you Karthik" shouted a smart alec after IR wound up his explanation. And he has my full approval for it, although KV pointed that I had competition now. I half-suspect that the gentleman in question was none other than our mumbairamki, which hopefully means there is no new competition among my Karthik fan club, consisting of 2 members in the world - MR and myself.

3. The Bach record that Raja bought, Raja said, is what used to be played to months old Karthik as thirupalli ezhuchi and as thaalaattu. In my paravasam, I dont remember the exact words, but a lengthy praise of his elder son followed with "That is why he is an unique musician, is Karthik. There is no one like him". : paravasam : , : pulagaangidham :, :sAndrOn ena kEtta thaai:

4. Yuvan was teased during the Thiagarajar story, Bhavadha got a nice reprimand for the choice of songs to be sung under the gaze of Thiagaraja and Bach but HIS voice when talking about Karthikeyan..........:wavecollar:.....it was abundantly clear that the elder-born was the favourite son, and that our Genius considers Karthikeyan as a worthy musician more than any of his other children(admittedly not a tough choice). But it means a lot to me - I am convinced that Karthik is special for IR as much as he is special to me - and not just because karthik is his son. It is clear he doesnt reserve the same level of admiration and respect for his other children. It is more of love, kaNdippu and lording over them as a loving but unbiased father who is not going to give them anything more than what is due to them as credit. With Karthik, whether it is just his fatherly love or not we dont know, but there is a special respect in his tone when he talks about Karthik. As a Karthikeyan fan, this is an Oscar and Grammy combined for my idol. Karthikeya, unakku vAzhkkaila vERa praise thEvai illaidA. nee sAdhichuttadA chellam, idhu pOdhumdA!

Very important matter onnu marandhutteengalae. Ilaiyaraaja said, "Even I cannot do some of the stuff he (Karthik Raaja) does". And I guess, he meant it.

And 36 voiceless Dum Dum Dum BGM clips for KR fans http://www.backgroundscore.com/2012/04/dum-dum-dum-background-score.html

baroque
1st May 2012, 09:52 AM
:ty:wizzy for the speech audio!

interesting!

vinatha

baroque
1st May 2012, 11:28 AM
I am touched by IR's nostalgic recall of his association with LSub!

Ippo Pannunga , Raja!:musicsmile:

L.Sub with IR, let the world experience it!

enakku N.Rajam- hindustani Violinist also romba romba pidikkum!

Dear LSub,

You have worked with some amazing artists around the world, I do not know you have done jugalbandhi with N.Rajam, I am searching, if he has never, I think he should for our pleasure!

Two contrasting styles!


koduppinai erundha nadakkum namakku!


yeah... too much claps, laughing, wish they were quiet.

Anyway.... Thanks WIZZY!

Vinatha.

Punnaimaran
1st May 2012, 12:40 PM
Thanks Plum, wizzy for the nice write ups. Feel sad to have missed it.

kameshratnam
1st May 2012, 02:23 PM
Audio has been removed due to copyright

K
1st May 2012, 02:55 PM
http://www.backgroundscore.com/2012/04/how-to-name-it-concert.html

Devaraagam
1st May 2012, 03:01 PM
Audio only - how to name it show held on april 29, 2012 at chennai http://soundcloud.com/rdhinakar/how-to-name-it


BIG THANKS kameshratnam.

Plum, Usually we can feel raja when we close and listen him. in this way I got the oppertunity of feel how to name it live because of you people. thank a lot friends.

MumbaiRamki
1st May 2012, 03:08 PM
Mumbairamki, so you were there? Am I right in assuming you were the one who shouted "We love you Karthik" ? :)

No way . I was there , but shouting yellaam illa .. naanga yellaam quiet ( except for the song megam kottatam , where i gave a scream in the end )

Plum
1st May 2012, 06:02 PM
Oh! That means there is a 3rd Karthikeyan fanatic in the world. Epdiyavadhu avarai thEdi pidichu namma rasigar mandra geththai kAttaNum :)

skr
1st May 2012, 06:25 PM
My titbit about the HTNI concert..
First of all it was great meeting KV and Wizzy once again after the Endrendrum Raaja Concert. Also i got to meet the articulate Plum [ Definitely not the grumpy person we expected :P)] ..

My favourite moments of the concert.
1) Raaja's speech and singing - Boy , the way he speaks is as astonishing as his music. So freeflowing and spontaneous. The fear or should i say the respect he instills on vidhwans like Anil Srinivasan and Rajesh Vaidya has to be seen to be believed. Him , playing bits on the piano and talking about all those invertible counterpoints was just awe inspiring. Though music comes naturally to him , the way he spoke clearly shows his understanding/clarity in musical concepts. When he sang Sada Sada , it was more than enough for a lifetime. :ty:
2) Dont Compare piece - My entire body started to shake , that Ambi Kozhandhai is just exceptional ..violin ennama pesaradhu , my legs automatically made me stand up and give a raptourous applause.This is wat they call a performance of a lifetime. Those 2 mins at the end suggested i was witnessing history of a different kind. :OMG: The minor blip ofcourse being Anil juggling up the piece and naming it as Mad Mood Fugue instead.
3) Lovely selection of Raaja's cine songs performed (the interesting fact being they werent the usual Maestro songs sung) . Suresh you would have surely enjoyed it.
A birdie already told me that Aganthaiyil Aadivara from Uliyin Osai was gonna be performed and the aalapanai he sang was a scorcher. The disappointing factor was almost the entire Raaja fans audience were clueless about this composition and wondering what was happening.
Serves the common Raaja fan good for missing out on his classics from the 2000's ;) It proved that its time to introspect esp for those who stereotype Raja within a particular timeframe.

Plum has mostly covered almost inch perfect of what all happened a the show. His write ups are being copied all over fb and getting lotsa likes (me included :D)
It was thoroughly engagging and his write up again made me visualise the historic event which I was part of :)
And Wizzy thanks a ton man for the audio links.

I will share some of my personal moments and also some of the comments of the others.
* When Raaja sang Sada Sada , I believe our renowned hubber Rajasaranam was fully in tears. He is a big man and now you can imagine the power of our Maestro's music which made him shed tears. :cry2:
* Another gentleman ( mind you he wasn’t drunk) remarked - Enakku Idhu Porum , ippove naan road la car adi pattu sethudanum
This concert was an emotional tearjerker in every sense , it moved even the staunchest of the staunchest.
* Happened to bounce into Karthik Raja , thanked him for the show and told him "please please organise more shows like this and Thiruvasagam should be next"
He smiled and pointed his hand out to Bhavatha and said "Neenga Avanga kitta sollunga - avanga nadathi veppanga :)

I got to meet my classmate from Ps Sr Sec School , Mylapore Haricharan and took a pic with him.
This boy used to win every single prize which used to be announced in the morning assembly. All this has culminated to where he is right now.
His rendition of Ada Machamulla was brilliant.- esp the Nadhrudhaana Dhiranaana portion which he sung twice :)

For me personally , this was the fifth time im getting to see our Musical God Maestro Ilaiyaraaja
Jun 5 , 2010 - Nothing But Wind Concert
Mar 5 , 2011 - Cine Associations 50th yr celebration where he performed a CR Subbaraman number (Saw ARR for the first time then)
Dec 28 , 2011 - Endrendrum Raaja Concert - The longest time I got to witness him.
Jan 28 , 2012 - Dhoni Audio Launch where he performed the 4 songs from the movie
Apr 29 , 2012 - How To Name It Concert.

Among all these occassions ,I felt he was the coolest and was in a very good mood during the HTNI concert. He spoke more than usual (ofcourse need to thank our KR also for that)
For me personally , it was the closest I got to him and even managed to touch him and behold even got my bro click a photo of him and LS on their way out.
Though it is blurred (will upload it here) , I feel am blessed to be in the same screen space as perhaps the greatest creator of music who ever walked on Planet Earth. :bow:
The most precious and priceless moment of my life. Period !.. :cool:

As I was leaving ,stopped the car , got down to check if there was a How to Name it cd available for remembrance.
My friend gave me the bad news that it was completely sold out.
But something told me to climb up the stairs and check the stall despite my frends words. Perseverance pays off sometimes.
The stall guy said not available and he had one cd with him to give to some vip.I pleaded with him and the guy next to him asked to give it to me.
Paid the 150 bucks , got this piece of memorabilia in my hand and left Anna Centenary Auditorium.

It was an unforgettable and truly memorable experience.
It was a really special Raaja Darshanam
I just feel like rewinding this experience all over again.
Just mere words cannot describe this How to Name it Experience.

12941295

San_K
1st May 2012, 06:38 PM
Gnani Aarambichuttaru pola (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=3455987251123&id=1614093607&fb_source=message) :lol2:

rozavasanth pathiladi (http://roza-thuli.blogspot.in/2012/05/blog-post.html) :thumbsup:

V_S
1st May 2012, 07:36 PM
skr,
Very moving post. Thanks for the detail write-up on the concert. I somehow from all these posts that it is a Maestro family concert with only privileged chosen to attend. Gifted fellows. :smile:

venkkiram
1st May 2012, 08:26 PM
Gnani Aarambichuttaru pola (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=3455987251123&id=1614093607&fb_source=message) :lol2:

rozavasanth pathiladi (http://roza-thuli.blogspot.in/2012/05/blog-post.html) :thumbsup: சாரு பல விஷயங்களில் சேறாகிவிடுவது போல, ஞானியும் இதுபோன்ற விஷயங்களில் சாணியாகிவிடுகிறார். பிரச்சினை என்னவென்றால் இந்த விஷயத்தில் சம்பந்தமே படாத ரஹ்மானும் கறையாகிவிடுகிறார்.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
1st May 2012, 08:27 PM
How to Name it-2012 -> http://isaignanibakthan.blogspot.in/2012/05/how-to-name-it-2012.html
Excellent Write up!

இளையராஜா என்கிற இசை ராஜா! -> நன்றி : சுஜாதா -> http://www.tamilleader.in/news/1772-2012-04-19-10-01-27.html

krish244
1st May 2012, 08:28 PM
IR wins best music award for ASK movie at Norway (Tamil) Film Festival:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/regional/tamil/news-interviews/Kollywood-gets-honoured-in-Norway/articleshow/12936171.cms

thanks,

Krishnan

baroque
1st May 2012, 08:28 PM
yeah post :thumbsup:...SKR, beautiful photos! good for you!

Plum, congrats.. enna postleyye thunder steal panninduerukkeenga! :-D

vinatha.

baroque
1st May 2012, 08:31 PM
Wow, Kamesh:ty:, ennadhan ungalukku enga mele akkaraiyo! Keep it up! Ungal dhayavu engalukku thevai!

vinatha

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
1st May 2012, 09:00 PM
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/h80e8l

தோழர் ஞாநி,

மீண்டும் தம் வெறுப்பை உமிழ துவங்கி விட்டார். https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=3455987251123&id=1614093607&fb_source=message இவருக்கு ராஜா மீது என்ன வெறுப்பு என்றே தெரியவில்லை! ஒரு தலித் காலில் பார்ப்பனர்கள் விழுந்து ஆசிர்வாதம் வாங்கும் அளவுக்கு உச்சானி கொம்பில் நிற்கிறார் என்றா அல்லது ராசைய்யா தமது இசையின் தரத்தால் ஒரு கடவுளைப் போல் கொண்டாடப் படுவதை சகிக்க முடியவில்லை என்பதாலா? ரஹ்மான தமது சினிமா ஆல்பங்களில் இசை கலைஞர்களின் பெயரை சேர்த்து வெளியிடுவதற்கு வெகு காலம் முன்பே இசையமைக்க பட்ட ’ஹவ் டூ நேம் இட்’ இன் ’ஆல்பம்’ கவர் இதுதான் http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/archive/01065/27MP_HOW_TO_NAME_I_1065272a.jpg மிக தெளிவாக ‘எல்லா’ இசை கலைஞர்களும் பெயர் குறிப்பிடபட்டு இருக்கிறது. இசை கலைஞர்களின் பெயர் குறிப்பிடுவது என்பது உலகளவில் தனி பாப்/கிளாசிக்கல் ‘ஆல்பங்களுக்கு’ கடைபிடிக்கபட்ட நடைமுறை. எந்த சினிமா சவுண்ட்ராக்கிலும் கம்போஸரை தவிர இசைத்த கலைஞர்களின் பெயர் இருக்காது . ரஹ்மான் தமது சினிமா இசையை பாப் ஆல்பங்களாகவே பார்த்ததும் அதில் இசைக்கும் எல்லா கலைஞர்களின் படைப்பு ரீதியான பங்கேற்பை ஏற்று கொண்டதுவுமே காரனம் அவர்கள் பெயர்களையும் சேர்த்து கொண்டதற்கு. ஆனால் ராஜா உலகின் நடைமுறை எதுவோ அதையே பின்பற்றி தமது பெயரை மட்டுமே தாம் இசை அமைத்த சினிமா ‘சவுண்ட்ராக்குகளில்’ போட்டு கொண்டார். மேலும் ராஜா தமது இசை கோர்வைகளில் உலகளாவிய கம்போஸர்களின் பானியிலேயே இசைஞர்களின் படைப்பு ரீதியான பங்கேற்பை ஏற்பதில்லை. இந்த எளிய விஷயம் கூட தெரியாமல் இதை ஒரு பெரிய குற்றம் போல் பல ஆண்டு காலமாக ராஜாவுக்கு எதிராக ஞாநி கக்கி வரும் விஷம் அருவருப்பாக இருக்கிறது. கண்டிக்கதக்கது. இதற்கு முன்பு நிகழ்ந்த நத்திங் பட் விண்ட் லைவ் கான்சர்ட்டிலும் அதில் வாசித்த ஹரி பிரசாத் செளராஷியா கலந்து கொள்ளவில்லை. ஆனால் தமது பேச்சில் அவரை குறிப்பிட்டார் ராஜா அதை போலவே இங்கும் நரசிம்மன்னின் பெயரை குறிப்பிட்டார் ராஜா. அதை நேரில் பார்த்தவர்களான நாங்களும் இந்த ஒலிப்பதிவுமே சாட்சி. https://t.co/S8u4UQj3 https://t.co/wYFrPK8D
மேலும் இவ்விரு நிகழ்ச்சிகளும் அவரது மகளான பவதாரினி மூலம் ஏற்பாடு செய்யபட்டு ராஜாவின் குழுவின் முக்கிய நெறியாளுனரான ‘பிரபாகர்’ என்பவரால் மீள் உருவாக்கபட்டு நிகழ்த்தபட்டது. ராஜா ரிஹர்சல்களில் கூட பங்கு பெறவில்லை! அவரும் மற்றவரை போல் ஒரு பார்வையாளர் என்ன மேலதிகமாக அவரது இசை ஆக்கம் என்பதால் ’எ ட்ரிபியூட் டூ ராஜா’ என்று சொல்லிக் கொள்ளலாம். என்ன பாடல்கள் இடம் பெரும் எப்படி நடக்கும் நிகழ்வு என்பது கூட அவருக்கு தெரியாது. என்வேதான் நிகழ்ச்சியின் இரண்டாம் பாகத்தில் சில சினிமா பாடல்கள் இசைக்கபட்டதை, பாஹ்-தியாகைய்யர் படங்களை மேடையில் வைத்து கொண்டு இந்த பாடல்களை பாடலாமா அது தவறு என்று மேடையிலேயே பவாவை கண்டித்தார். பொது விஷயங்களில் நேர்மையாளராகவே அறியபடும் ஞாநி ராஜா விஷயத்தில் மட்டும் இப்படி நேர்மையற்ற அற்பதனமான வாதங்களை வைத்து மனித தன்மையிலிருந்து சறுக்கி விடுகிறார். பகுத்தறிவு என்பதை கண்மூடி பூனைப் போல் அனுகுவதின் விபரீதம் இது. சமூகத்தை திறனாய்வு செய்வது இருக்கட்டும் தமது கருத்து நிலையை திறனாய்வு செய்வாரா ஞாநி? ஏனென்றால் மனிதத் தன்மையும் நேர்மையும் இல்லாமல் ஏராளமான திறமை இருந்து என்ன பயன்!

app_engine
1st May 2012, 09:32 PM
I'll have to restate my opinion on Gnani here again (and honestly, this has nothing to do with my rAsA-liking, just to highlight in another context that is relevant here) :

Mr muraNpAdu! Totally!!

I don't know how people automatically assume that this guy is so honest otherwise in life (i.e. on non-IR matters) :roll:

Some hubbers were upset with me for ridiculing him on his statement of 'illAtha kadavuLidam koodanguLaththukku vENdi prArththanai seyyum' self-contradictory statement.

Matter simple - if someone is a strong believer of evolution (and hence not in a supreme being as the originator of life), they automatically believe in "non-accountability" (to anyone) and will be only driven by selfish opinions (which are whimsies & fancies IMO).

It's very difficult for them to fit into a framework (honesty is a framework - "yes means yes & no means no" - BTW)!

baroque
2nd May 2012, 12:05 AM
Who cares!

Please get back to Shri.L.Sub, Rajesh Vaidhya etc..., their interaction with Shri.Ilayaraja!

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
2nd May 2012, 04:12 PM
This is the inside cover of the HTNI album sold at the concert

https://p.twimg.com/Ar4f_X7CEAAqi54.jpg:large

Gnaani:- See whose name is in bold :lol:

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
2nd May 2012, 06:52 PM
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/h8dkac

Saravana Kumar (@Sharankay)

Posted Wednesday 2nd May 2012 from Twitlonger

ஞாநியுடன் பேசியதில் இருந்து: ராஜாவிடம் தமக்கு தனிபட்ட காழ்ப்பு இல்லை என்கிறார். அவர் சக கலைஞர்களை மதிப்பதில்லை என்றார். ஒவ்வொரு மேடையிலும் ராமசந்திரா, நெளசாத், எம்.எஸ்.வி, சுப்பராமன், பர்மன் என்று சிலாகிக்கிறாரே என்றேன். அது ராஜா தமது உச்ச நிலையில் இருந்து இறங்கிய பின்னே செய்கிறார் என்றார். எம்.எஸ்.வி. பொருளாதார ரீதியில் நலிந்த பொழுது ராஜா உச்சானி கொம்பில் இருந்தார், மதிக்க தெரிந்ததால் தான் 1984லிலேயே அவரை தேற்ற அவருடன் சேர்ந்து இசை அமைத்தார் என்றேன். உடனே ராஜா தம்முடன் வாசிக்கும் சக கலைஞர்களை மதிக்க மாட்டார் என்றார். சதா, விஜி, புரூ போன்றோரை குறிப்பிட்டு 35 ஆண்டு காலமாக அவருடனே இருக்கிறார்களே, மதிப்பில்லை என்றால் வெளியேறி இருப்பார்களே என்றதற்கு. வாழ்கை/பொருளாதார தேவைகள் என்று அடித்தார். கடந்த பத்து+ ஆண்டுகளாக ராஜா பொருளாதார ரீதியில் வெற்றுதானே வெளியேறி இருக்கலாமே என்றதற்கு, அவருடன் வேலை செய்த மற்றும் வெளியேறிய கலைஞர்கள் தனிப் பேச்சில் சொன்னதை வைத்தே முடிவுக்கு வந்ததாக சொன்னார். அப்போ வெறும் கிசுகிசு பாணியில் ஓரிடம் விட்டு வெளியேறிய பின் அவ்விடத்தை இகழும் கிழ்தரமான மனிததன்மையையா ஆதாரமாக கொள்கிறீர்கள் என்றால் ‘ஆமாம்’ என்று அடித்து விட்டார். தனிப்பேச்சில் ரஹ்மான் வீட்டுக்குள் இருந்து கொண்டே தாம் இல்லை என சொல்ல சொன்னதாக பல கலைஞர்கள்/இயக்குனர்கள் என்னிடம் சொல்லி இருக்கிறார்கள் அவைகளை ஆதாரமாக கொண்டு ரஹ்மானை நான் இகழலாமா என்றால் மடை மாற்றுகிறார்! சரி ராஜாவிடம் வேறு குறைகள் பார்க்கிறீர்களா என்றால் ‘இல்லை’ என்பதில் தெளிவாக இருக்கிறார். இந்த கேசட்டில் பெயர் போடுவதில்லை என்ற சின்ன விஷயத்தை வைத்தா தொடர்ந்து இந்த அவதூறு செய்கிறீர்கள் அதுவும் ரஹ்மானுடன் ஒப்பிட்டு என்றால், ஆமாம் என்கிறார். இது போல் மரபு உலக திரை இசை வரலாற்றிலேயே இல்லையே ஜான் வில்லியம்ஸ், ஜேம்ஸ் ஹார்னர் போன்ற எல்லோரும் மனித தன்மை அற்றவர்களா என்றேன். தாம் தமிழத் திரை இசைத் துறை பற்றி மட்டும் பேசுவதாக சொன்னார். ரஹ்மான் வந்து ஒரு மரபை துவங்கி வைத்தார் அதன் பின்பே ராஜா அதை பின் பற்றினார் என்றார். அதன் பின்பும் ராஜா பின் பற்ற்வில்லை என்றும் 1992க்கு பின் வந்த 100க் கணக்கான ஆல்பங்களில் குரு, காதல் கவிதை, மாயக்கண்ணாடி போன்ற என்னி விட கூடிய 10-15 ஆல்பங்களில் மட்டும் அப்படி இசை கலைஞர்கள் பெயர் வந்தது என்றும் அதன் முக்கியத்துவம் கருதி அல்லது விஷேச காரணங்களால் அப்படி நிகழ்ந்திருக்கலாம் என்றும், இன்னும் ராஜா உலக சவுண்ட்ராக் கம்போஸர்களின் பாணியிலேயெ இயங்குகிறார் என்றும் தெளிவுபடுத்தினேன். ஒப்பு கொண்டார். அப்போ இதில் என்ன பிரச்சனை என்றால் ’இது உங்களுக்கு பிரச்சனையா தெரியல எனக்கு தெரியுது’ என்கிறார். அடுத்து ஹவ் டூ நேம் இட் நிகழ்வில் நரசிம்மனை கூப்பிட்டு கெளரவிக்கவில்லை என்றார். இது ராஜா ஏற்பாடு செய்த நிகழ்ச்சி இல்லை என்றால், அவருக்கு தெரியாமல் நிகழ்ந்திருக்காது என்றார். நத்திங் பட் விண்ட் நிகழ்விலும் ‘ஹரி பிரசாத்தை’ அழைக்கவில்லை மற்றும் ரஹ்மான் தமது ஒவ்வொரு இசை நிகழ்ச்சியிலும் வாசித்த அனைவரையும் அழைக்கிறாரா என்றால், அவைகள் பர்ஃபார்மென்ஸுகள் பரவாயில்லை என்றும், ஆனால் இது 25ம் ஆண்டு வெள்ளிவிழா நிகழ்வு எனவே அழைத்து கெளரவித்து இருக்க வேண்டும் என்றார். 25ம் ஆண்டு என்பது தற்செயல் என்றும் நத்திங் பட் விண்டுக்கு பின் ரசிகர்களின் வேண்டுகோளுக்கு இணங்கவே பவதாரினி ஏற்பாடு செய்தார் என்றால், ஆனால் மக்கள் மனதில் இது 25ம் ஆண்டு விழா என்றே பதிய பட்டு இருக்கிறது என்றார். எனது விளக்கதிற்க்கு பின் புரிந்து கொள்ள தயாராக இருக்கிறிர்களா என்றால் ‘இல்லை’ நான் மக்களில் ஒருவன் எனவே இது வெள்ளி விழாவுக்காக கொண்டாடபட்ட ஒரு நிகழ்வு என்பதில் இருந்து மாற்றிக் கொள்ள தயாரில்லை என்றார். நரசிம்மனை அழைத்தாகவும் அவர் உடல்நிலை காரணமாக கலந்து கொள்ள முடியவில்லை என்று பவா’வின் வட்டம் தெரிவிக்கிறது என்றேன். இருக்க முடியாது என்றார். நரசிம்மனிடமே பேசி உறுதி செய்யலாமே என்றேன். செய்கிறேன் என சொன்னார். அவரே கூட இதை இவ்வளவு பெரிய விஷயமாக எடுத்து கொள்ள மாட்டார்ப் போல் என்றேன். இந்த விஷயத்தில் ரஹ்மானை இழுத்து ராஜாவை இகழ்கிறீர்களே இதே போல் சின்ன பட்ஜெட் படங்களுக்கோ பொருளாதார ரீதியில் தத்தளிக்கும் நபர்களுக்கோ ராஜா குறைவான சம்பளத்தில் அல்லது சம்பளம் இல்லமால் இசை அமைத்து இருக்கிறாரே இந்த நல்ல குணம் இல்லாமல் பெரிய பட்ஜெட், மார்க்கெட்டிங் என்றிருக்கும் பணக்கார ரஹ்மானை கெட்ட குணம் கொண்டவர் என்று இகழ்ந்து எழுதுவீர்களா என்றால். தேவை இருப்பின் செய்வேன் எனக்கு சார்புகள் கிடையாது என்றார். பார்ப்போம்.

Sureshs65
2nd May 2012, 07:35 PM
Saravanakumar (@Sharankay) for those who don't know is our own Rajasaranam

app,

Fully agree with you on Gnani. I also don't go with he is outstandingly honest except case a, b, c etc :) I don't see honestly in him, especially when related to Raja and sometimes even otherwise. There are lot of places where he tells things which suit his philosophy deliberately hiding things which don't suit his philosophy. But as Vinatha says, why worry about Gnani and all here. Let's continue with Raja :)

skr,

Was great to see you in the same screen space as Raja. Something to show your grandchildren (Ofcourse that is quite some time away. First you have to get married and all. For that you have to select a girl who is a Raja fan :D )

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
2nd May 2012, 07:55 PM
:lol: Already a Raja Fan Prasanna corrected Sneha using Raja songs only! Best of Luck SKR!

jaiganes
2nd May 2012, 08:19 PM
:lol: Already a Raja Fan Prasanna corrected Sneha using Raja songs only! Best of Luck SKR!
veLangidum..
ponnukku samaikka theriyumaa? paarunga adhu nyaayam..
ponnukku prachanaiyai (sondhakaaranga) samaaLikka theriyumaa ? paarunga adhu nyaayam..
idhellaam vuttuttu - paattu keppiyaannu paatheenganna.. appram prachanainnu vandhaa ellaam okkaandhu paattu thaan kekkonum..

jaiganes
2nd May 2012, 08:23 PM
Saravanakumar (@Sharankay) for those who don't know is our own Rajasaranam

app,

Fully agree with you on Gnani. I also don't go with he is outstandingly honest except case a, b, c etc :) I don't see honestly in him, especially when related to Raja and sometimes even otherwise. There are lot of places where he tells things which suit his philosophy deliberately hiding things which don't suit his philosophy. But as Vinatha says, why worry about Gnani and all here. Let's continue with Raja :)

skr,

Was great to see you in the same screen space as Raja. Something to show your grandchildren (Ofcourse that is quite some time away. First you have to get married and all. For that you have to select a girl who is a Raja fan :D )

yoav rasasaranam - naatheegam pesuravanga ellaarum naagareegamaanavangannu artham illai. indha vishayathula nee pudichirukkaradhu puli vaal illa "naai vaal"
nee enna sonnaalum saar vaaLai nimithave mudiyaadhu.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
2nd May 2012, 08:35 PM
veLangidum..
ponnukku samaikka theriyumaa? paarunga adhu nyaayam..
ponnukku prachanaiyai (sondhakaaranga) samaaLikka theriyumaa ? paarunga adhu nyaayam..
idhellaam vuttuttu - paattu keppiyaannu paatheenganna.. appram prachanainnu vandhaa ellaam okkaandhu paattu thaan kekkonum..
mothalla correct pannanum, appurama neenga solrathellaam kathu kudukkalaam. "இங்கு பிரச்சனைகளை சமாளிக்கும் திறனுடைய பெண்கள் கிடைக்கும்" ன்னு எங்கயும் போர்டு மாட்டி போடமாட்டாங்க. நாமதான் வாழ கத்துக்கணும்.

thumburu
2nd May 2012, 08:49 PM
Flau, Ultimate yaar! Even NBW concert speech was not as technical as this. This is a real miss!

And that 200 Miles is about Thiyaagaraajar, not Raja himself! He said 3 things in the 3 artists life where they struggled to even have the access to listen music!

No. It cannot be Thyagaraja. It must have been Raja himself or Bach or someone else. Thyagaraja was more an aspirer of Lord Shri Ram than of music. For Thyagaraja, music was his only means to attain Rama.

rajaramsgi
2nd May 2012, 09:08 PM
தோழர் ஞாநி,


சார், புகழ் பெற பல வழிகள் இருக்கு. வெளிநாட்டு TV ரொம்ப பார்த்துட்டு "Devils advocate" போல இருந்தா புகழ் பெறலாம்னு இந்த கழுதைங்க நினைக்கிறாங்க. ஞானி, சாரு இவிங்கெல்லாம் ஒரு மனுஷங்களா? விடுங்க சார். ராஜா சாரால, பாட்டு கேக்கற நாம மட்டும் பயன்படலை. இந்த மாதிரி நாயி, நரியெல்லாம் அவர் பெயர் சொல்லி, நாங்களும் இருக்கோம்லன்னு வண்டிய ஓட்டிகிட்டு இருக்குதுங்க..

MumbaiRamki
2nd May 2012, 09:24 PM
சார், புகழ் பெற பல வழிகள் இருக்கு. வெளிநாட்டு TV ரொம்ப பார்த்துட்டு "Devils advocate" போல இருந்தா புகழ் பெறலாம்னு இந்த கழுதைங்க நினைக்கிறாங்க. ஞானி, சாரு இவிங்கெல்லாம் ஒரு மனுஷங்களா? விடுங்க சார். ராஜா சாரால, பாட்டு கேக்கற நாம மட்டும் பயன்படலை. இந்த மாதிரி நாயி, நரியெல்லாம் அவர் பெயர் சொல்லி, நாங்களும் இருக்கோம்லன்னு வண்டிய ஓட்டிகிட்டு இருக்குதுங்க..

Ayya , Gnani has done phenomenal work in other areas - even otherwise, let us respect another human being. Sometimes he is adamant with incomplete analysis , but he genuinely cares for other human beings . Lets not use derogatory words for Gnani !

baroque
2nd May 2012, 09:40 PM
appram prachanainnu vandhaa ellaam okkaandhu paattu thaan kekkonum..


"இங்கு பிரச்சனைகளை சமாளிக்கும் திறனுடைய பெண்கள் கிடைக்கும்" ன்னு எங்கயும் போர்டு மாட்டி போடமாட்டாங்க. நாமதான் வாழ கத்துக்கணும்.


EXACTLY, Raja's music shares the same idea with his fans!

unnoda prachanai ennannu enakku theriyaadhu, aanaal, listen to my music that suits your mood on a needy day, I lift your spirit, restore the hope, stabilize your mood.... then apply your mind to solve your problems, pragmatic aa eru!

SKR, know your interests, talk to the girl whether she shares with you the same spirit....

Hobbies are very important to relax in this taxing life!

Shared hobbies strengthen your relationship whether hubby-wife or friends or Grandpa-Grandson or Father-son etc...

good luck to you!

skr
2nd May 2012, 10:47 PM
Hahahaha so sweet of you guys Suresh , SKV and Baroque to expect that i get a gal who is also a Raja fan :)
Kadecha nalla dhaan irukkum :D, its always fun talking and listening to Raaja's music with fellow like minded people ..

And may i say , when you wanna impress a gal .. Raaja's music comes in very handy ..(You are spoilt for choice i say :p)
At the same time , currently Raaja's music is one reason i dont miss having a gf 8-)

Btw guys in India , check out Kalaignar tv from 10 PM onwards daily .. They play some lovely Raja songs from the program En Isai Gnani ..

Plum
2nd May 2012, 11:08 PM
For me personally , it was the closest I got to him and even managed to touch him and behold even got my bro click a photo of him and LS on their way out.


From the time we met skr outside the auditorium, wizzy and myself were predicting that any moment now, skr is going to do a sashtanga namaskaram right at Raja's feet when he spots him. orE paravasa nilaila irundhAr - actualyl nAnum dhAn but obviously i didnt have the courage to go within 50 meters of the man.

Sureshs65
3rd May 2012, 01:11 AM
No. It cannot be Thyagaraja. It must have been Raja himself or Bach or someone else. Thyagaraja was more an aspirer of Lord Shri Ram than of music. For Thyagaraja, music was his only means to attain Rama.

/Dig

That is the general perception and everyone has tried to stick to it. The truth is that unlike Purandaradasa and Annamayya, who used music as a vehicle for propagating their teachings and for devotion, Tyagaraja was a great musicologist. He was as much concerned about music as devotion. Otherwise he wouldn't have invented so many new ragas, would have given perfect grammar in those ragas and wouldn't have given so many krithi structures. Musicologist and musicians like S.Ramanathan and S R Janakiraman have expressed their awe for Tyagaraja as a musicologist. So in way I would differ from you here. For Tyagaraja, music was very important and not necessarily the means to attain Rama.

/End Dig

Sureshs65
3rd May 2012, 01:15 AM
Ayya , Gnani has done phenomenal work in other areas - even otherwise, let us respect another human being. Sometimes he is adamant with incomplete analysis , but he genuinely cares for other human beings . Lets not use derogatory words for Gnani !

Ramki,

I am fully with you on this. It is better not to use derogatory words about others, whatever be the provocation.

At the same time, let me also point out that whatever words Gnani has used about Raja are unacceptable. And for all the 'phenomenal work' that Gnani has done in his field, Raja has done 10,000 times more phenomenal work in his field. So I guess you should also put a comment in Gnani's facebook page (if you friends with him) stating that his wordings are also unacceptable.

app_engine
3rd May 2012, 01:31 AM
I need to listen to the audio tonight if possible :oops: I'm so thrilled with the PM references and the connection with him to HTNI :-)

It was around the same time that I started listening to PM a lot...nice to know that IR was in contact with him during that time period :-)

p
3rd May 2012, 02:33 AM
Suraj Jagan - "Sang for the legend Ilaiyaraaja sir today ..... truly grateful for all that life has given me...."
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=791188&l=c1b0a33123&id=148745718531904

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/485310_323294091077065_148745718531904_791188_1913 043708_n.jpg

jaiganes
3rd May 2012, 03:26 AM
/Dig

That is the general perception and everyone has tried to stick to it. The truth is that unlike Purandaradasa and Annamayya, who used music as a vehicle for propagating their teachings and for devotion, Tyagaraja was a great musicologist. He was as much concerned about music as devotion. Otherwise he wouldn't have invented so many new ragas, would have given perfect grammar in those ragas and wouldn't have given so many krithi structures. Musicologist and musicians like S.Ramanathan and S R Janakiraman have expressed their awe for Tyagaraja as a musicologist. So in way I would differ from you here. For Tyagaraja, music was very important and not necessarily the means to attain Rama.

/End Dig

ellaam sari dhaan aanaal. the bolded parts are jarring. why assume that devotion to GOD and devotion to one's work are two different things?
It flies in the face of what Raaja himself says " trying to reach GOD through music - which is his work ".. I think you wanted to say this - but came out wrong..

On a general note - separation is in the mind of the person observing the bhaktha. For the true devotee - there is no separation..

Gregorysab
3rd May 2012, 10:28 AM
Suraj Jagan - "Sang for the legend Ilaiyaraaja sir today ..... truly grateful for all that life has given me...."
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=791188&l=c1b0a33123&id=148745718531904

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/485310_323294091077065_148745718531904_791188_1913 043708_n.jpg

Still curious about which Suraj Jagan song did Raaja listen to first, to okay him for this song!! I will faint if it was "Zehreelay" from Rock On! :-)

rajasaranam
3rd May 2012, 11:42 AM
ஏதோ பக்த மண்டலிக்குள்ள நுழைஞ்சா மாதிரி இருக்கு :-) வேலைக்காவது நான் ட்விட்டருக்கே திரும்ப போறேன் ;-)

rajaramsgi
3rd May 2012, 01:20 PM
MumbaiRamki, Suresh65,

இன்னிக்கு நேத்துன்னு இல்லை சார்.. ஒரு இருபது வருஷமா பார்த்துட்டு இருக்கேன். ராஜா சார் நின்னா குத்தம், உட்கார்ந்தா குத்தம்னு தான் சார் இவங்க பேசறாங்க. நம்ம ஊர்ல அசிங்கம், கெட்ட விஷயங்கள் ஏராளம். பெரிய மனுஷன்லேர்ந்து, பலர் அயோக்கியத்தனம் பண்றாங்க. நாடு நல்லா இருக்க பாடு படற "அந்த சிலர்" அதையெல்லாம் விமர்சனம் பண்ண வேண்டியது தானே? எவனை அடிச்சா திரும்பி அடிக்க மாட்டான்னு தெரிஞ்சு பேசறதெல்லாம் ஒரு பிழைப்பா சார்?

ராஜா சார் புத்தர் என்ற லெவலில் நான் பேசலை. அவரை நெகடிவ் விமர்சனம் பண்ற அளவு அவர் ஒன்றும் தரம் தாழ்ந்து நடக்கவில்லை. ராஜா சாரின் இசையை விமர்சனம் செய்யட்டும். அதிலுள்ள நெளிவு சுளிவுகள் சரி இல்லை என்று சொல்லட்டும். அதை கூட, ராஜா சாரை விட அதிகம் இசை தெரிந்தவர் மட்டுமே சொல்ல முடியும். அதை விட்டு விட்டு, மழை பெய்தால் தவளை கத்தற மாதிரி, ராஜா சாரை பற்றி எந்த நியூஸ் வந்தாலும் உடனே சத்தம் போடுவது காழ்புணர்ச்சியை தவிர வேற என்னவாய் இருக்க முடியும்? எவ்வளவு சாதித்து என்ன பயன்? அந்த சாதனைகளை நாடு திருந்த பயன்படுத்தி கொள்ளலாமே.

Venkkiram சொன்னது எனக்கு மிகவும் பிடித்திருந்தது. "சாரு பல விஷயங்களில் சேறாகிவிடுவது போல, ஞானியும் இதுபோன்ற விஷயங்களில் சாணியாகிவிடுகிறார்."

சுஜாதா, பாலகுமாரன் போன்றோரை "அந்த மனிதர்கள்" இன்னும் அதிகம் படிக்க வேண்டும். எழுதும் எழுத்தின் டார்கெட் எப்படி இருக்க வேண்டும் மேலும் புரியும். சமுதாயம் பற்றி தான் என் சிந்தனை என்று சொன்னால், தமிழருவிமணியன் இருக்கிறார். அவர் பேச்சில் சுயநலம் தெரியவில்லை. காழ்புணர்ச்சி தெரியவில்லை. அவரிடத்தில் கற்றுக்கொள்ள "இவர்களுக்கு" நிறைய இருக்கிறது. ராஜா சார் மீதான பக்தி மட்டும் என் கோபத்திற்கு காரணம் இல்லை. இவர்கள் பேச்சில் நியாயம் இல்லை, இவர்களுக்கு அதை இவர்களுக்கு எடுத்து சொல்ல வழி இல்லையே என்கிற ஆதங்கத்தால் வரும் வெறுப்பு.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
3rd May 2012, 01:30 PM
ராஜாவிடம் இருக்கும் குறைகள் பலதயும் பார்த்தவன் படித்தவன் அறிந்தவன் என்கிற முறையில் சொல்கிறேன், அவரிடம் இருக்கும் நேர்மைக்கு பக்கத்தில் கூட போக முடியாது, நம்மில் பலரால். சுடர் விடும் சுத்தமான ஆன்மா அவருடையது.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
3rd May 2012, 01:33 PM
லோகத்துல நல்லவாளும் இருக்கா கெட்டவாளும் இருக்கா! நல்'அவாள்' பத்தி சொல்றதுக்கு எந்த குறையும் இல்லை. ஆனால் கெட்'அவாள்' எல்லாம், பல வகையிலயும் தர்மடி வாங்கிட்ருக்கா பாவம்! பெயரிலேயே ஸ்பெல்லிங் மிஸ்டேக், மற்றும் மீனிங் மிஸ்டேக்கும் கொண்ட இந்த ஞாநி, அப்படி ஒரு சமீபத்திய தர்மடி(வாங்கிய) தர்மலிங்கம்!

Sureshs65
3rd May 2012, 02:11 PM
rajaramsgi,

I fully agree and support your thoughts. Mine are very similar.

Anyway let us forget this. This will keep happening often. if not Gnani, someone else will come up with some other issue. 'arasiyalla idhellam sagajamappa'

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
3rd May 2012, 05:15 PM
https://www.facebook.com/howtonameitlive/posts/372252446160267

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Currently we are facing few issues connected to the event, enthusiastic fans of ' Maestro' Illayaraja who came for the show have uploaded videos, audio files and pictures of the event without seeking any prior permission from us, this is a severe copyright violation. Not only that we are soon planning to release the DVD and Audio CD of this event, :thumbsup: but due to this unauthorised publishing we are facing so many issues, so we kindly ask you to remove all the video, audio and pictures of any sort connected to the show ‘How to name it – Version 2012 .’ It has to be removed today itself, people who fail to do this will have to pay the penalty, and strict actions will be taken against them.

KV
3rd May 2012, 06:01 PM
Delli programa cancel panneettu vandhirkkEn. Poos readya?

Plummar, wizzman, skr… arumayaana padhivugal. :clap: Frankly, there’s nothing more I think that I can add to this. Nonetheless, attendance pOttudrEn.

First, the good things:
Experiencing Raaja’s music performed by a live orchestra is always something special, and with an album like HTNI being the theme, this was bound to be extra special, and it was that. The audacity of the album’s idea and its execution 25 years back was made apparent with the different parts and layers being strung together live.

Like in the NBW concert, the idea of covering even the synth parts with live instruments paid off and the chaps on the bass, guitars and drums did their job exceedingly well. (Aalaap Raju - if this is the same bloke who croons queer sounding melodies these days, he should seriously consider abandoning his singing career with immediate effect and take up his bass more seriously). The keyboard sections in HTNI have an oddly psychedelic quality to them; something that one can associate with classic rock of the 60s and 70s. The keyboardists here managed to bring that out nicely. Raaja’s chella pillais, the ever-dependable violin section and the brass section, despite being at the receiving end of some pathetic sound/volume control, were doing business-as-usual, creating a lovely sonic backdrop for the frontmen to take center stage. And, the men under the spotlight, two kids on the violins and Rajesh Vaidya on the Veenai, let the music soak in them and a good portion of the audience, soak in their music.

The HTNI album, given the intertwined, seemingly complex fusion nature of its pieces, was rendered quite satisfactorily, considering the fact that the original score is no more present with us. Prabhakar deserves special credit for re-creating the notes, that too by listening to the album on CD. Mind-bending effort this’d been! :bow:
Of course, keen ears, well acquainted with the album could’ve spotted several differences with the original; but to listen and write the score for such intricate pieces of music is a feat in itself. Bravo, sir, bravo! :clap:.

The add-on package of songs after the album… terrific, I say! Forget the singing; slim chance that these chinnanjirisus can ever come close to creating an impact like the original. The orchestral parts, however, boy, what a treat! Yeah, classical concert, giant cut-outs of two swamigals in the background; totally inappropriate and all ok. But when it comes to celebrating Raaja’s live music, I’ll be the first in line of alpams standing and craving for more! Budget constraints, for all we know… otherwise they probably might’ve changed the backdrop. But then, to suit the nature of songs, imagine a backdrop of giant images of Bagyaraj and two thundering-thigh aunties in jigujigu costumes… mudiyuma? Vechchaalum indha naadu dhaan thaanguma? Cut the organizers some slack, I say!

The selection of songs was very good, with a good mix of post-2000 and 80s quintessential Raaja disco (sureshji, that first part was possibly a dedication to fans like you). The brass and violins sections, the bass, guitars and acoustic drums; fusion of pop, classical, folk, disco and whatnot - the sound of this, live, what a heady mix! To me, no other composer can ever create this effect. If HTNI was celebrating the elitist/purist genius in Raaja, the latter was celebrating the vallal - the genius who never saw, nor will ever see, any discrimination between elitist/purist/common-man tastes in the audience.

Alright, moving on to some not-so-good parts.
Choosing two teenage kids to play the lead in a live concert featuring an album of such high caliber was always going to be a risk. Their grasp of music and level of playing was commendable, especially given their age. However, it’s my belief, that the nuances, focus on finer details and more importantly, musical maturity, comes only with experience. Raaja’s music, especially his violins, are always high on emotions and a killer in detailing. It’s these things that took a beating at this concert. At several instances, it gave me the feeling that notes were being played alright, but they lacked the emotional quotient. The kids aren’t really at fault here. Why - because Raaja is Raaja and Narasimhan is Narasimhan. Prabhakar, despite his monumental effort in bringing this concert to life, is no Raaja in details of score writing. The kids, the prodigy in them notwithstanding, couldn’t have matched Narasimhan’s maturity and ability in rendering the pieces like in the original. I might be sounding an arrogant brat and a ruthless spoilsport here, but that sadly was the truth. And not necessarily nitpicking for the sake of doing so, at times, they even seemed to be having trouble in getting the bowing right (especially while jumping across strings). The younger one’s violin sounded a bit out-of-tune and when he played Bach’s solo piece, no doubt a decent effort for his age, it sadly was a bit jarring. Again, not the poor one’s fault. A little supervision and guidance from some of the seniors could’ve helped in getting these little things right and made a big difference overall. If Bhava is planning a tour and to take it international as well, these things could come under some heavy scrutiny. I don’t really know what conspired behind Ganesh-Kumaresh getting dropped, but it’s my hunch that it could’ve been that little extra special. Or for some vetti idea, try and convince LS or Narasimhan to take the lead! :yes:

A brilliant album like this deserves some top-notch sound engineering when performed live. The sound engineering, or the lack of it to be precise, in this case, was a pain in the wrong places. The guy at the console, very obviously, had little idea of what he was doing. The volume levels were screwed up in most of the tracks, resulting in a portion of the music not being audible enough or blasting out too loud, drowning the other portions. The feller, I’m guessing, pardon my ill manners, must be a beneficiary of the deceased-father job occupancy policy of the government. I’m sincerely hoping he isn’t going to be part of any of the pending legs of the tour. :evil:

The choice of host for the event was interesting given his musical background. However, in reality, Anil, was pretty disappointing. I was expecting a more technical and articulate introduction to the pieces, but what we ended up getting was very surface-level, and at times simply jingoistic. The LP album cover has some beautifully written lines on each piece, though a bit too technical for general public. The organizers could’ve chosen to use this as the base to create diet version intros at the show. That, I’m guessing, might have worked better for the concert and given it a bit of extra finesse.

I’m really sorry if I’ve dampened some spirits here with all this whining. I’ll move on!

Raaja was pressed, both, by the audience and Bhava, to sing a song. His reluctance was shattered when Bhava used the magical words ‘for amma… please pa’. It should’ve been really emotional for him I think. As he stood there, amidst all the noise and cheering, contemplating on what he must perform, it got me thinking too, on what that special song could be. And then he began ‘sadaa… sadaa unnai’. Though originally written for Ramana Maharishi, at that moment in the concert, to me, it felt like it was Raaja’s special dedication to her, his special one in life.

wizzy
3rd May 2012, 07:18 PM
KV, Whtya :clap: :clap: turn down some heat on Anil..this could well be his first compering job..may be he was simply overwhelmed by the mere presence of the man and came out as nervous wreck most of the times :-) better than having some one like Bosskey for a show of such magnitude :lol2: frankly we lack peeps of such stature who could thread the needle.

venkkiram
3rd May 2012, 07:19 PM
[I]Nonetheless, attendance pOttudrEn.
Yours is always special KV! Let Bhava reads your comments and do the needful!

app_engine
3rd May 2012, 07:26 PM
nalla constructive criticism, KV!
:clap:

rajasaranam,
Do you still feel this is a bhakta maNdali? :lol2:

skr
3rd May 2012, 08:29 PM
Kvji , super write up :)
Btw I believe VS Narasimhan was also approached after Ganesh Kumaresh , but due to some reason he backed out ..It would have been a brilliant homage to this extraordinary soundtrack if at all he had agreed to be part of this showpiece celestial event ..

V_S
3rd May 2012, 08:53 PM
KV,
Very nice to read you honest and wonderful observations! :clap: Definitely if we have been listening to this album since last 20-25 years, we can spot out even the slightest of variations, especially as you nailed it, the emotions! Still as you said a big salute to Prabakaran sir having re-written all the notes, just by hearing. :notworthy: Your recommendations on experienced person playing are again spot on, even we if encourage the youngsters for bravely attempting Maestro's score. I can certainly feel how you missed VS Narasimhan sir. Still I think it is a mighty effort from Bhavatharini and the whole team for attempting to recreate such a magic. Another thing I see from the list of film songs played, some films songs did not sync with the concert ambience. They could have selected songs which would have been ideal/correct for the concert atmosphere or even left it without being played.

rajaramsgi,
Neththi adi sir. Fully concur with you. All critics have been most critical toward Maestro (more than his music), than to others. It seems they enjoy it thoroughly and announce their pride by doing so. I have been also reading RS interaction with Gyani. Even after RS patiently explaining all the reasonings, I see he was so harsh in answering. These people will not try to change, even if their heart tells them to change. Let them be honest to people, but I am damn sure they are not honest to their heart. No one can help them.

NormalMan
3rd May 2012, 09:27 PM
Kvji , super write up :)
Btw I believe VS Narasimhan was also approached after Ganesh Kumaresh , but due to some reason he backed out ..It would have been a brilliant homage to this extraordinary soundtrack if at all he had agreed to be part of this showpiece celestial event ..

I have asked this several times. There is some ladai between IR and VSN. Not sure what it is.

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3rd May 2012, 09:35 PM
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sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
3rd May 2012, 09:37 PM
KV, superb man! i can't do any better than posting ur writeup on twitter, so that it reaches 1000s of Raja fans!

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And, though i cannot mentally recall/repoduce NBW album, i found some erroneous playing here and there in NBW Concert too.

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kiru
3rd May 2012, 10:49 PM
Awesome coverage guys.. I cant but help envy all who attended the concert.. Downsides of living in a different country means missing out on many socio-cultural and even family events.
It is a pity that even a person of Anil's caliber missed out on the Fugue thing.. Can't believe that. WCM knowledge in the country seems pretty low. Films songs might have been okay. if they picked out ones to illustrate WCM techniques or WCM/ICM fusion .. Guru songs could have been a great choice.
Again thanks for the coverage, even though I will try to get the DVD and watch .. I will miss meeting you music savvy and friendly people in person.
We need Meetups in different parts of the country/world.

kiru
3rd May 2012, 11:15 PM
I agree with rajaramsgi. IR might or you might be sure he has flaws..but they pale in comparison to his postive contributions to music and social aspects of life. I am afraid culturally we are instituitionalizing an attitude to bring down high-achievers amongst ourselves (Have you heard of the "indian frogs" story ?). More than 15 years ago I might have been critical of Rahman or Deva or other MDs etc. Today, I have the maturity to appreciate all of them, inspite of my preferences for one particular composer. Let us celebrate the good and talented amongst us and grow and prosper together as a healthy, supportive and nurturing society.

KV
3rd May 2012, 11:28 PM
nandri hi, guys! kaduppuaagi TWEP order kuduthurveengalo'nnu konjam bayandhen, but mayyam rasigargal, very matured ya :thumbsup:
wiz, squirrel might be new to compering, so presentation skills mannichirlaam, but contentum koattai vittuta? appuram plum signature dhaan gadhi.

KV
3rd May 2012, 11:31 PM
skv, in your older post, it says Bhava is planning to release the DVD and audio soon. Ippo akbarrajavum DVD vikkardha sollraare. rendum orE source dhaana? any idea'nga?

Plum
3rd May 2012, 11:33 PM
idhukku pEru dhAn humility mafia - nAn dhAn sonnEnE....ivangaLA oru standards vechuruppAnga, adhai apdiyE pESaNum, apdiyE nadakkaNum - illainA medical prescription mAdhiri ezhudhi tharuvaainga:

Medical Prescription by Dr Gnaani
========================
Patient: Ilayaraja Age:68

Acute case of lack of humility

@cap Humblophilia 1-0-1 (34 days)
@tab iyAmnuthinallgodgrass 1-1-1 (129 days)
@syrup baliAdurahmanmodel (after dinner for 1365 days)
@tab giveunduecredittoothers 0-0-1 ( 34 days)
@tab haveNoopinionHavenopersonalityofurown 1-1-1(34 days)
@cap pOlivEsham (lifelong)
======Above medicine available easily in AVM Studio, Chennai..indrE aNugungaL Ph AVM Saravanan=============

Plum
3rd May 2012, 11:36 PM
KV - awesome write-up. As I said, mature young man with excellent taste and commitment towards high-quality music. evLO pEru irupPAnga ivar vayasula ippadi indha kAlaththula - lift your collar and pat yourself on your back, KV. un generationla nee latchathula oruvanA iruppa(forgive the rightful orumai)

V_S
3rd May 2012, 11:44 PM
idhukku pEru dhAn humility mafia - nAn dhAn sonnEnE....ivangaLA oru standards vechuruppAnga, adhai apdiyE pESaNum, apdiyE nadakkaNum - illainA medical prescription mAdhiri ezhudhi tharuvaainga:

Medical Prescription by Dr Gnaani
========================
Patient: Ilayaraja Age:68

Acute case of lack of humility

@cap Humblophilia 1-0-1 (34 days)
@tab iyAmnuthinallgodgrass 1-1-1 (129 days)
@syrup baliAdurahmanmodel (after dinner for 1365 days)
@tab giveunduecredittoothers 0-0-1 ( 34 days)
@tab haveNoopinionHavenopersonalityofurown 1-1-1(34 days)
@cap pOlivEsham (lifelong)
======Above medicine available easily in AVM Studio, Chennai..indrE aNugungaL Ph AVM Saravanan=============
:rotfl::rotfl:

layman10
3rd May 2012, 11:50 PM
idhukku pEru dhAn humility mafia - nAn dhAn sonnEnE....ivangaLA oru standards vechuruppAnga, adhai apdiyE pESaNum, apdiyE nadakkaNum - illainA medical prescription mAdhiri ezhudhi tharuvaainga:

Unwrtten rules: Actor an choose MDs, heroine, Dir etc, throw them at will, later gives nose-ring for a MD, so caring!. If a MD gives a damn about buildup song for an actor irrelevant to story- he is arrogant.

In people's mind they have an entitlement for every one, like a Zamindar even when he is penniless is expected to have great respect (vazhnthu kettavan). A Servant even if rises to the top, he should have (their brand of ) humility and loyalty. VK can talk any rubbish, because he is Hero, Comedian Vadivel is expected to be in certain way because he is after all a comedian.

KV
3rd May 2012, 11:52 PM
@syrup baliAdurahmanmodel :lol:

nandri plum. vaazhkaila alatchiyamaa irukkara naa, latchathula oruththana? :oops: pOnga baas, neenga eppavume ippidi dhaan.

KV
3rd May 2012, 11:57 PM
layman, innikki ungala round kattradha irukkEn.
i've asked you this before, but to no avail. How/where do you come across these strange compilation albums of Raaja? Who does these records? who gives them such funky posters/covers? Who sends them to review sites/magazines? oru underground network maadhiri irukke! konjam vivaram sollungalEn...

wizzy
4th May 2012, 12:09 AM
KV, I have a heard a lot about his classical music prowess. best of musicians are known to be nervy infront of him so lets see how he goes in other cities..

no one will Gnani seriously if they were to attend his medai nadagams..unintentionally funny :lol:

layman10
4th May 2012, 12:55 AM
layman, innikki ungala round kattradha irukkEn.
i've asked you this before, but to no avail. How/where do you come across these strange compilation albums of Raaja? Who does these records? who gives them such funky posters/covers? Who sends them to review sites/magazines? oru underground network maadhiri irukke! konjam vivaram sollungalEn...
அப்படியா மன்னிக்கவும்?!. miss பண்ணிட்டேன்.
Those compilations are by some labels that catalog global retro sounds (mostly for kitsch factor I guess). I think finders keepers records got to know about Raja when Solla Solla enna perumai song went viral on youtube. Surprisingly they have a good reach, search ' FM playlist ilaiyaraaja "solla solla" ', you can see how many community FM stations played songs from that album. Similarly black eye peas used a Raja's song that came on some CD that had a Raja's song among many old Bollywood dance numbers around 2000.

Nothing much from my part, I have filters to search google, blogs, news, twitter etc for his name (with many possible spellings) which I get as feed to google reader. I post here some after weeding through loads of articles like Raja scores for Samatha's movie etc!:).

KV
4th May 2012, 11:01 AM
:thumbsup: layman, ungal thondu thodarattum. seekers keepers.. mindla vechchukarEn.

baroque
4th May 2012, 11:29 AM
KV, thanks for your thoughts!:thumbsup:

yellam kalakureenga with your reviews!:-D

yeah... Quality DVD of the program for the unlucky jantha not get to attend the concert, Bhava, good job! thanks!

skr
4th May 2012, 03:10 PM
Plum , Wizzy , KV and others who attended HTNI.
Looks like Anil Srinivasan has oppified some of the concepts of WCM based on this blog.

Mad Mod Mood Fugue
When Raaja sir has made His first trip to France {on 19-09-1983 through Airfrance} to meet the great french composer and arranger - Paul Mauriat, Raaja sir had specially composed a three piece record composition.

After hearing that composition, Paul Mauriat has appreciated the outcome and also, he proclaimed that it was the first such an attempt.

Actually, it was the same piece - Mad Mod Mood Fugue {2 minutes 03 seconds}. Later this composition has paved the way for the album - "How to name it?"

Fugue is a music concept, which supposed to be originated from the contrapuntal family, however, it differs from other contrapuntal idioms by: A main melody was played and it would be responded by counter-melody at different pitch. It is need not to be a factor of overlapping same melody with regular interval.

BTW, in chorale fugue, main melody will be replicated with two successive voices and fourth voice enters against the first/main melody.

This concept differs with instrumental fugue, I reckon. In canon, the complete main melody will be replicated by follower melody; however, it does not followed in Fugue.

May be a main melody was followed by its follower melody to some extent can called as "Fuga canonica".

Normally, at pre-baroque era, fugal work is performed with voices alone. Later, it had accompainment of instrument. However, Bach's Bourree in e-minor was written for lute.

Coming back to Mad Mod Mood Fugue:

Raaja sir's Mad Mod Mood Fugue is interwoven with three melodies. One violin plays the 15th melakartha raaga Mayamalavagowla and reportedly, 2nd violin plays the counter-melody of Bach's Bourree in e-minor and a bassguitar as bassline to form Trio structure.

Trio is a composition, which is written for three voices and instruments performed by three persons. Here, only 3 instruments play their own melodies.

I personally feel that this three piece orchestra movement is alike Allegretto {a moderately quick tempo} - Allegro {a quick, lively tempo} – Allegretto. {eh?}

At their initial stage, all the three instruments play their own melody without any botheration among themselves, after the 1st minute; there is a fuss among the two violins to consider about their melodies with each other. At 1:20, array of string instruments were more alike Allegro movement {a quick, lively tempo}, wherein western violin’s call was responded by Indian classical violin with bass accompaniment for main melody. Eventually, all the 3 instruments try to sustain their original melody. Subham!

always

~Raaja rules!

http://raajarulez.blogspot.in/2009/07/mad-mod-mood-fugue.html
Plum and Mumbairamki : Btw this writer is a huge Karthik Raja fan :)

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
4th May 2012, 03:32 PM
கார்த்திக்ராஜாவின் இசை பிடிக்குமென்றாலும், அப்படி என்ன தனிச்சிறப்பு உள்ளதென, படம் வரைந்து பாகம் குறித்து விளக்கவும். 10 மார்க்!

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
4th May 2012, 03:33 PM
Is there a website which just list **ALL** the songs of Raja, in alphabetical order?! Just a list, need not be playable

raajarasigan
4th May 2012, 04:21 PM
simply impossible, I say :)

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
4th May 2012, 05:39 PM
Ok. Is there a site which lists songs?!? Let it be incomplete, but still....I don't want Movie listing, but Song listing

kiru
4th May 2012, 10:09 PM
கார்த்திக்ராஜாவின் இசை பிடிக்குமென்றாலும், அப்படி என்ன தனிச்சிறப்பு உள்ளதென, படம் வரைந்து பாகம் குறித்து விளக்கவும். 10 மார்க்!
yes, he might be knowledgeable ..his tunes are also very robust ..but somehow his orchestration of songs leaves something to be desired. The market is very big and appreciative..This is what is preventing him from making it big. Yuvan, sets his goals not so high and executes well (even though I am not fond of his songs.. but I dont find anything jarring either).

Plum
4th May 2012, 10:44 PM
adhaan thalaivare sollittAre appuRam engaLai pArththu enna kELvi. As for reasons for his failure, my theory is that while he is IR's isai vaarisu in many ways, he failed to inherit the one important ingredient - prolificity. Even if some of Raja's 80s output can be considered average, he was capable of atleast 1 amazing, high quality album per month through that period. Karthikeyan is probably capable of 2 per year, provided the director is ultra involved and the film/story/situ is highly inspiring him creatively. He didnt form sufficient succesful partnerships with directors like that - and that's that. When he was really young, inspiration flowed by itself for the likes of Grahan, Kanmani, Enakkoru etc.

Also one more - and an important reason for my identification with him, and I have to warn you there are absolutely no data points for this theory - is that he is "mentally lazy". One of my Professors in College assessed me thus. (padu paavi, post graduate studiesku Matsciencela apply paNNittu, ivar kitta recommendation letter kEttirundhEn - andha letterla dhaan ipdi ezhudhi irundhAn padupaavi - nalla vELai adhai use paNdradhukku munnAdi oru muRai padichu pArthEn. "PLum is capable of really outstanding research in that this etc but one thing he has to improve is he is mentally lazy"-Am. adhu recommendationAm). I have a hunch, like me, he really creates only when there is absolutely no other go, and creativity thAnA thAnga mudiyAma uLLErundhu pongi kittu varrappO - and such moments are far too infrequent for him to make a mark in his field. (Just as it is for me).

Unlike us, IR, ofcourse, summA ukkArndhAlE, such creativity pongi pongi varum, daily varum, That I believe is the difference

Plum
5th May 2012, 12:15 AM
@syrup baliAdurahmanmodel :lol:

nandri plum. vaazhkaila alatchiyamaa irukkara naa, latchathula oruththana? :oops: pOnga baas, neenga eppavume ippidi dhaan.

KVm - nAn yAraiyAvadhu pArAtti pArthirukkiyA? anAvasiyamA yAraiyum pArAtti pazhakkamillai - romba pheel paNNA dhAn pArAttuvEn so I really meant it.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
5th May 2012, 10:15 AM
Flau, regarding Raja's creativity, yes it is an Amudha surabhi & am sure in this 30 years, he wud hav just got some great tunes/pieces and lost them, in the process of bringing them from his mind to real world.

Regarding karthikeyan, i am not sure if he did many many gems with IR, unofficially working with him. But vaguely remember he contributed even the thenral vanthu theendum bothu etc. Point is, if he got such gems in his minds, he wud have took the other films he got, seriously. But even after ppl like ABCL, Kamal, Maniratnam(dum x 3)even KB(Album movie, chellame chellam song) et all helping karthik raja, he didn't go far. One thing agreed, in all the 4 films i said b4 and his other films, his tunes were unik. agreed. but not completely new sounds. I find them as somewhat extensions of Raja's work. If somebody said they were Raja's still it is bilevable(artistically, not in real terms) So i feel he didn't have BaaNi, pattern which is fresh and unique only to himself. On other end, Yuvan really had something unique to himself and thatswhy he was able to attract lot of directors on his own. Albums like thulluvatho Ilamai, Poovellaam kettuppaar et all had that new sound which was unique only to him. And i feel he is the 1st one to emerge, after Rahman, as youth kamboser, pushing back likes of Deva, GVP even Harris arrived late. One may argue that this new, unique sound of yuvan is not likeable for them, its ok. but his is more unique, original.


Being 1st of Raja's heritage, and also being chella piLLai for all these days, i guess he shud hav kept maintaining himself in field. If not film albums do albums like HTNI, for example. Being the 1st guy of that lineage, he shud have done something. But raja is kind on him is evident. Raja gave the remake rights, use of his tunes as ring tones etc, those financial rights went to karthik.,

skr
5th May 2012, 11:50 AM
Maestro's Tamil Poem Book to be released soon
இளையராஜாவின் 2-வது கவிதை!
இசையமைப்பாளர் இளையராஜா, `வெட்டவெளிதனில் கொட்டிக் கிடக்குது' என்ற பெயரில், ஏற்கனவே ஒரு கவிதை புத்தகம் வெளியிட்டார்.
அடுத்து அவர் இன்னொரு கவிதை புத்தகத்தை விரைவில் வெளியிட இருக்கிறார். புத்தகம் வேகமாக தயாராகிக் கொண்டிருக்கிறது!

skr
5th May 2012, 10:27 PM
Maestro at Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi’s 62nd Aradhana on April 18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfb3TH6exdY&feature=youtu.be

kameshratnam
6th May 2012, 12:28 AM
manathodu mano : Ilayaraaja sirs former troupe member : FLute sudhakar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wes2_Do1P0&feature=relmfu

baroque
6th May 2012, 09:33 AM
Mano sir program!:)

Beautiful job!

rukhmani rukhmani....:smokesmirk: oh! ivar dhaanaa andha velai!:swinghead:

Good old A.R.Rahman's ROJA... ennoda paiyyan / cousins etc... ARRahman music albums CDs yellam body part maadhiri vachchu suttittuerukkanunga!:musicsmile:

thanks,

baroque
6th May 2012, 10:33 AM
SKR, thanks.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
6th May 2012, 06:47 PM
Interesting tweets

vishnupriyan ‏ @vishnupriyanD
ilayaraja is a NO: 1 CRM (Customer Relationship Musician). What ever Feeling u required, he will give the solution.

iamபேமானி ‏ @morattumama
நல்ல இசையை கொடுக்கிறோம் என்ற கர்வம் ராஜாவுக்கு..நல்ல இசையை ரசிக்கிறோம் என்ற கர்வம் அவருடைய ரசிகர்களுக்கு...
Retweeted by K S Nagarajan

Srividhya Jayakumar ‏ @srividhy
During morning walk today, listened to 80's Ilayaraja songs - Is thete a greater bliss than this in life ? :)

You-Don't-Know-Who ‏ @YouDontKnowWho_
You'll should take up to Tamil music just to know what stuff this Ilaiyaraja is made of.

sreekrishnan ‏ @sreekrishnanv
If there is one person that a Violin should thank for its popularity in India it has to be Ilaiyaraja.

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
7th May 2012, 11:10 AM
Now Everybody Save this GEM!!!!!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak0lUT9ZZ-jDdGlDbl9iQkJwODY4d1laVmtZa0ZmbHc#gid=0

raajarasigan
7th May 2012, 03:10 PM
Now Everybody Save this GEM!!!!!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak0lUT9ZZ-jDdGlDbl9iQkJwODY4d1laVmtZa0ZmbHc#gid=0tanq :)

raja_fan
8th May 2012, 09:33 AM
YVM press meet.

Yet to watch what they spoke !

http://www.cinejosh.com/andhra-events-trailers/4005/yeto-vellipoyindi-manasu-movie-press-meet-01.html

raja_fan
8th May 2012, 11:14 AM
YVM press meet.

Yet to watch what they spoke !

http://www.cinejosh.com/andhra-events-trailers/4005/yeto-vellipoyindi-manasu-movie-press-meet-01.html


Nani says audio release will be in June first week..

Gregorysab
8th May 2012, 01:30 PM
Nani says audio release will be in June first week..

I think it is the producer who was talking there. He says they plan to release the music in last week of May and movie release is likely to be in June.

He also says: "Ilaiyaraaja admitted that he wants to work with GVM. I have worked with IR as asst. director before, but I think this is the 1st time IR himself explicitly expressed interest in working with a specific director"

raja_fan
8th May 2012, 01:39 PM
I think it is the producer who was talking there. He says they plan to release the music in last week of May and movie release is likely to be in June.

He also says: "Ilaiyaraaja admitted that he wants to work with GVM. I have worked with IR as asst. director before, but I think this is the 1st time IR himself explicitly expressed interest in working with a specific director"

You have to watch part 2 of the video to see Nani saying that the audio release will be in June first week.

Gregorysab
8th May 2012, 05:26 PM
I think we are in for a treat in June 2012. NEPV music is likely to release at that time and very shortly, even Gundello Godari too: http://t.co/klYZcPRz

teja
8th May 2012, 07:56 PM
"Yeto Vellipoyindi Manasu" teaser

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsmRAYpk3Tc

(Looks like they used NBW track for the time being, since the music isn't ready yet)

krish244
10th May 2012, 01:54 PM
Audio rights for NEPV is expected between 1.5 and 2 crores:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/regional/tamil/news-interviews/2-crore-for-NEP-audio-rights/articleshow/13065333.cms

"...Says an executive in the audio industry, "The soundtracks of Gautham's films have always done well in the market. And since he is collaborating with Ilaiyaraaja for the first time, there is an intense competition among top labels to bag the audio rights for 'NEP'
.
.
Considering that Ilaiyaraaja has a huge fan base in Tamil and Telugu, the rights of 'NEP' are much-contested between players in the music market....."

thanks,

Krishnan

raja_fan
10th May 2012, 09:18 PM
Watch out for some update tomorrow ( Friday ) on NEP music !

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
10th May 2012, 11:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iUm-CJ6lII

rajkumarc
11th May 2012, 01:14 AM
Great emotional speech by IR, the way he presented the unforgettable Nenjam Marappadhillai song :notworthy: Thanks for sharing sakala.

rajaramsgi
11th May 2012, 01:46 AM
no doubt ya.. raja sir always glorified his seniors to the best he can, he never forgets to mention their names at every possible situations. thanks vallavarey for sharing this.

K
11th May 2012, 08:34 AM
http://cinema.nakkheeran.in/Talkies.aspx?T=1504

rakamma kaiya thattau

K
11th May 2012, 01:30 PM
http://tamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2012/05/ilayaraaja-s-neethaane-en-onvasantham-makes-waves-153824.html

2.5 Crs for NTEPV?

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
11th May 2012, 07:38 PM
நேற்று இல்லை நாளை இல்லே... எப்பவும் இளையராஜா!! (http://tamil.oneindia.in/movies/specials/2012/05/ilayaraaja-s-neethaane-en-onvasantham-makes-waves-153824.html)


இளையராஜா ஒரு படத்துக்கு இசையமைக்கிறார் என்றாலே அந்தப் படம் குறித்து தனி மரியாதை வந்துவிடும். பாடல்கள் குறித்தும் பெரிய எதிர்ப்பார்ப்பு இருக்கும்.

இது எழுபதுகளில் தொடங்கி தொன்னூறுகளின் இறுவரை தொடர்ந்தது. இடையில் சில வருடங்கள் ராஜா தமிழ்ப் படங்களில் பெரிதாக ஆர்வம் காட்டவில்லை. அப்போது அவர் மகன் யுவன் ஷங்கர் ராஜா அந்தக் குறையைத் தீர்த்தார்.

இப்போது மீண்டும் முழு வீச்சில் களமிறங்கிவிட்டார் இசைஞானி. கவுதம் மேனனுடன் இணைந்து அவர் பணியாற்றும் நீதானே என் பொன்வசந்தம் படத்தின் இசை குறித்துதான் இன்றைக்கு இன்டஸ்ட்ரியில் பெரிய அளவு பேச்சு.

இந்தப் படத்தின் இசைக்கு சோனி உள்ளிட்ட ஆடியோ கம்பெனிகள் இதுவரை இல்லாத அளவு ரூ 2 கோடிக்கு மேல் விலைபேசப்பட்டு வருகிறது. இருந்தாலும் இன்னும் எந்த நிறுவனத்துக்கும் ஆடியோவை விற்கவில்லை கவுதம் மேனன். அநேகமாக ரூ 2.50 கோடிக்கு இந்தப் படத்தின் ஆடியோ விற்பனை செய்யப்படும் எனத் தெரிகிறது.

கவுதம் மேனன் - ரஹ்மான் கூட்டணியில் வந்த விண்ணைத் தாண்டி வருவாயா பட ஆடியோ ரூ 1.75 கோடிக்கு விற்பனையானது. இதைவிட முக்கால் கோடி அதிக விலைக்கு நீதானே என் பொன்வசந்தம் விற்பனையாகவிருக்கிறது.

V_S
11th May 2012, 07:48 PM
இது எழுபதுகளில் தொடங்கி தொன்னூறுகளின் இறுவரை தொடர்ந்தது. இடையில் சில வருடங்கள் ராஜா தமிழ்ப் படங்களில் பெரிதாக ஆர்வம் காட்டவில்லை.
:lol: Very interesting to read this. Ignorance is bliss!

app_engine
11th May 2012, 07:57 PM
இதைவிட முக்கால் கோடி அதிக விலைக்கு

This is the problem with the tabloids...usuppEththal...

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
11th May 2012, 08:00 PM
When did it release?


Madhan Karky ‏ @madhankarky

@jeganmmk89 My first song for Ilayaraja sir is 'kuttichaathaan vandhenda' in My Dear Kuttichaathaan 2011 edition.

Never knew that Son of DiamondPearl wrote for Raja!

MumbaiRamki
11th May 2012, 08:19 PM
When did it release?



Never knew that Son of DiamondPearl wrote for Raja!

He did not write in literal sense . HE wrote it like how dubbed telgu movie song will be wrote ..

rajaramsgi
11th May 2012, 10:44 PM
I think Raja's anger with Vairamuthu came down a bit since the later visited Raja's house to pay homage for Jeeva.

I am not saying this is the reason for the patch up, some how I think gap between them is not as large we think. Even in Dhoni's Audio release, while he was explaining how his tune fitted thyagarajar's(mari mari ninne) song perfectly for Sindhu Bhairavi, Raja mentioned who all was there with him at that time when this sindhu bhairavi magic happened. Raja referred him as 'paatu eludhinavarum kooda thaan irundhaar' (paadiriyen padipariyen)

Plum
11th May 2012, 10:51 PM
'paatu eludhinavarum kooda thaan irundhaar'

:lol: - pErai sollavA adhu nyAyam AgumA?

skr
11th May 2012, 11:14 PM
Balu Mahendra Interview
http://youtu.be/K9obLaTEKu0
http://youtu.be/Ecd13b-P0Nc

Plum
11th May 2012, 11:29 PM
Some of you might have heard this before but many of you - especially the KV generation - are unlikely to have: I dont remember how the song itself was but this is the song that IR composed for his daugther's wedding and this was part of the invitation sent to the invitees:

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=dhool.com%20engal%20mangaiyarkarasi&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CFQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dhool.com%2FphpBB2%2Fviewtopi c.php%3Ft%3D3299&ei=MlOtT-DuDofTrQftrqDvAw&usg=AFQjCNFN0pl76SnRVBbjaI28wH9BcvyJ2Q

oru archiveA inga irukkattum

V_S
12th May 2012, 08:57 AM
Thanks Plum. I have never heard before. Surprised to read some comments even for this personal song.

irir123
12th May 2012, 09:29 AM
Watch out for some update tomorrow ( Friday ) on NEP music !

friday is gone and its saturday ! whats the update sir ?!

raja_fan
12th May 2012, 10:02 AM
friday is gone and its saturday ! whats the update sir ?!


Ivanunga update tharennu solli emaatthitaanungappaa :(

https://twitter.com/#!/nep_movie/

raja_fan
12th May 2012, 12:13 PM
Some news on tracks of NEPV
News no1: Every song in this movie is being done as an instrument track too. Which means the lead voices will be replaced with instrument track played and recorded live.
News no2: The song 'Nee Thaanae' has been sculpted in a entirely different flavour.

One more news we will get in few hours i believe ..


Thanks skr.
Any source for your updates ?
Hope it stops with just only one remix . We do not want Gowtham to do a Balki . People will be ready to say "IR can only do remix"

venkkiram
12th May 2012, 04:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iUm-CJ6lII

எம்.எஸ்.வி பற்றிய ராஜாவின் புகழாரம் காணொளி பார்த்தேன். ஒரு விஷயத்தில் உடன்பாடில்லை.

பாடல் வரிகள் ஒன்றுமேயில்லை. இசைதான் அதை தூக்கி நிறுத்துகிறது என வாய்ப்பு கிடைக்கும் போதெல்லாம் சொல்வது. உதாரணத்திற்கு

"தாமரை மலரில் மனதினை எடுத்து தனியே வைத்திருந்தேன்
ஒரு தூதுமில்லை உன் தோற்றமில்லை கண்ணில் தூக்கம் பிடிக்கவில்லை
கண்ணில் தூக்கம் பிடிக்கவில்லை"

தவறில்லை. ஆனால் பாடல் வரிகளால் பல பாடல்கள் உயரிய அந்தஸ்தினை அடைந்திருக்கின்றன, மலிவான பாடல் வரிகளால் பல பாடல்கள் இசை நன்றாக இருந்த போதிலும் மக்கள் மத்தியில் பிரபலமடையாமலும் போயிருக்கிறது..

ராஜாவின் முன்னிலையில் ஒருவர் சிறந்த பாடல் வரிகளால் எப்படி ஒரு இசைப்பாடல் ஒரு மகத்தான உருவாக்கமாக மாறியது என்பதையும் விளக்கி பேசவேண்டும்.

rajaramsgi
12th May 2012, 07:03 PM
சந்தியா ராகம் படத்திற்கு ராஜா சார் மியூசிக் இல்லை. L.வைத்தியநாதன் அந்த படத்திற்கு இசை அமைத்தார். பாலு மகேந்திரா பேட்டி நன்றாக இருந்தாலும், இந்த தகவலையும் சொல்லி இருக்க வேண்டும். ஏன் விட்டுவிட்டார் என்று தெரியவில்லை.

ஒரு வேலை அந்த படத்தை பற்றி பேச்சு வரும் போது சொல்வரோ?

rajaramsgi
12th May 2012, 07:11 PM
வெங்கிராம்,

ஹ்ம்.. ராஜா சார் பாடல் வரியில் ஒன்றும் இல்லை, இசை தான் தூக்கி நிறுத்துகிறது என்கிற அர்த்தத்தில் பேச வில்லை என்றே தோன்றுகிறது. சாதாரண, அர்த்தம் அதிகம் இல்லாத வரிகளையும் தன்னுடைய இசையால், msv சிறப்பாக ஆக்கிவிடுவார் என்று தான் சொன்னார். சிலர் மீது அவருக்கு பயங்கர மரியாதை உண்டு. கண்ணதாசன், வாலி, பொன்னடியான், முத்துலிங்கம், புலமைபித்தன், மேத்தா போன்றோரின் எழுத்து அவருக்கு பிடிக்கும். பலமுறை பாராட்டி இருக்கிறார்.

Sureshs65
12th May 2012, 11:44 PM
Venki,

I will go with rajaramsgi here. Raja is saying how even the most mundane of words has been transformed into very emotional ones by the music provided by MSV. He isn't making a statement that words are not required. Just that Vishwanathan and Ramamurthy had the ability to uplift mediocre poetry. And as rajaramsgi says, he has spoken many times about Kannadasan on stage and has also lavishly praised Vaali.

sivasub
13th May 2012, 07:26 PM
Naveen Patnaik honours Ilayaraja.....

http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/tamil/article/82076.html

sivasub
13th May 2012, 07:28 PM
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article3408990.ece

There's a photo here for the same

layman10
13th May 2012, 08:51 PM
http://soundcloud.com/experimedia/ilaiyaraaja-fire-star-synth

Excerpts from the album. Now available at Experimedia.net. ...1985-1989. Indian film music invariably manages to take you by surprise, time and time again. Hard electro-funk and sweet synth-pop are not genres you would expect from India. Yet, in the late '80s, electronic beats and synths were eagerly embraced by the film industry of South India along with kung fu fights, aerobics, sunglasses and jogging outfits. The rich and funky Tamil grooves of the early '80s transformed into stripped electronic synthesizer music. Composer Ilaiyaraaja aka "The Maestro" used minimal beats and synthetic arrangements to create an addictive and captivating electro synth-pop sound. His experimental mind, unfailing pop instinct and advanced harmonics make the songs a feast for the ears that will grow with every listen. CD includes a 30-page booklet with info on the featured films. Total Play Time: 65 mins.

Released by: bombay connection
Release/catalogue number: bc003cd
Release date: May 10, 2012

AravindMano
13th May 2012, 09:02 PM
Thanks skr.
Any source for your updates ?
Hope it stops with just only one remix . We do not want Gowtham to do a Balki . People will be ready to say "IR can only do remix"

Facebook "Raja Fans" group. It's a closed group and they are requesting not to take the updates from there to any other groups till the news is official. There is another juicy update in that group, please go check or PM me.

raja_fan
13th May 2012, 10:04 PM
Facebook "Raja Fans" group. It's a closed group and they are requesting not to take the updates from there to any other groups till the news is official. There is another juicy update in that group, please go check or PM me.

Please see my PM

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
14th May 2012, 12:13 AM
2 songs From the High voltage "ExperiMedia" Album!

Adi RaniMangamma -> http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2864'&lang=en

Vaa VeLiye by SPB -> http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2517'&lang=en

Kindly help me identify other rare songs...

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
14th May 2012, 12:26 AM
Imagine urself how excited Raja has become, if he has went to the extent of he himself playing(& recording) some guitar and few instrumental pieces! We are for an class and art treat for sure! Me putting karcheef for atleast 3 CD's!

* Pinch of Salt!
* :yessir:
* Be Careful! (Ennaichchonnen)

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
14th May 2012, 09:07 AM
http://www.facebook.com/notes/rajiv-shankar/-celebration-of-36-years-of-musical-excellence-/3513274145048

♫ Celebration of 36 Years of Musical Excellence !!! ♫

Goosebumbs!

V_S
14th May 2012, 09:18 AM
2 songs From the High voltage "ExperiMedia" Album!

Adi RaniMangamma -> http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2864'&lang=en

Vaa VeLiye by SPB -> http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs='SNGIRR2517'&lang=en

Kindly help me identify other rare songs...

skv,
Here is the partial list, I could not find songs #3 and #7 (mostly music and too short to find).

1. Vikram - Vikram
2. Adi Rani Mangamma - Poruthathu POthum
4. Baby You Are My Baby - Oruvar Vaazhum Aalayam (Singer:Francis Lazarus)
5. Pala Raathiri pochu - Iravu Pookkal
6. Chittukkuruvi - Chinna veedu
8. Paattenge - Poovizhi VaasalilE
9. Theme - Punnagai Mannan
10. Raajathi Raaja - Agni Natchathiram
11. Pavazha Malligai - Mandhira Punnagai
12. Ninnukori Varnam - Agni Natchathiram
13. Theme - Punnagai Mannan
14. I Want to Tell You Something - Anand
15. Valayosai - Sathya
16. Vaa VeLiyE - Paadu NilaavE

Waiting to order my CD (sold out!)

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
14th May 2012, 10:23 AM
Wow, thanks V_Sji!

p
14th May 2012, 11:19 AM
Tracklist:
1. Vikram – Kamal Hassan
2. Adi Rani Mangama – Mano
3. Instrumental Music
4. Baby – Anuradha
5. Pala Rathiri – Vani Jairam, M. Vasudevan & G. Amaran
6. Chittu Kuruvi – S.P. Balasubrahmaniam & S.Janaki
7. Disco King – Yesudas & Vani Jairam
8. Pattu Engey – Malaysia Vasudevan & S. P. Sailaja
9. One Two – Francis Lazarus
10. Raja Rajadhi Raja – Ilaiyaraaja
11. Pavala Malligai – Malaysia Vasudevan & Chithra
12. Ninnukkori – Chitra
13. Love Theme On Computer
14. I Want To Tell You Something – S.P. Balasubrahmaniam
15. Valaiyosai – S.P. Balasubrahmanyam & Lata Mangeshkar
16. Vaa Veliye – S.P. Balasubrahmanyam & Chitra

First time hearing the 7th song Disco King from Isai Padum Thendral.
http://soundcloud.com/cargorecords/disco-king-yesudas-vani-jairam

Sivakumar & Ambika on screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EABonFKE7hE

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
14th May 2012, 12:02 PM
Looks like 3rd one is very tough to find!!! come on expert raja-fans!!

raja_fan
14th May 2012, 12:19 PM
Finally, Sony may bag the audio rights of NEPV !

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/regional/tamil/news-interviews/Neethane-En-Ponvasantham-Audio-Rights/articleshow/13131218.cms

sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
14th May 2012, 12:33 PM
36 years before, same day

இன்று (14.5.1976) – அன்னக்கிளி வெளியான நாள்..

’அன்னக்கிளி’யின் இசையமைப்பாளராக இசைஞானி தேர்வு செய்யப்பட்டபின், அவரைப் படத்தில் இருந்து நீக்க பல முயற்சிகள் நடந்தன. எதிர்பாராத சோதனைகளும் வந்தன. அவற்றை எல்லாம் முறியடித்தார் இசைஞானி.

இது பற்றி இசைஞானி கூறியது:-

“பஞ்சு சாரின் கதை-வசனத்தில் ஹிட் ஆகியிருந்த ‘உறவு சொல்ல ஒருவன்”, “மயங்குகிறாள் ஒரு மாது” என்ற 2 படங்களுக்கு விஜயபாஸ்கர் இசையமைத்திருந்தார். அவரிடம் வேலை செய்த குருபாதம் என்ற இன்சார்ஜ், அவருக்கு வரவேண்டிய படத்தை நான் தட்டிப் பறித்து விட்டேன் என்ற தவறான எண்ணத்தோடு தயாரிப்பாளர் சுப்புவிடம் போனார். ‘பஞ்சு சார், விஜயபாஸ்கர் கூட்டணி ஹிட் ஆகும் கூட்டணி சார். அவர் ஸ்டாரும், இவர் ஸ்டாரும் நன்றாக ஒத்துப்போயிருக்கு. அதை ஏன் மாத்துறீங்க?” என்றார். இதில் சுப்பு குழம்பிவிட்டார். கூடவே பஞ்சு சாரின் இன்னொரு தம்பி லட்சுமணன் வேறு. அவருக்கும் கேள்விக்குறிகள். “சார்! இந்த ராஜா, ஜி.கே.வி.கிட்டே கிட்டார் வாசிக்க்கிறாவர் சார். ஏற்கெனவே Unlucky Music Director என்று பெயர் எடுத்திருக்கிறார். அவர் மியூஸிக் பண்ணி பூஜை போட்ட படம் எல்லாம் நின்றுவிடும்” என்று பலவிதமாக சொல்லி பயத்தை ஏற்படுத்திவிட்டார். சுப்புவும் பயந்துவிட்டார்.

பஞ்சு சாரிடம் நேராக சென்ற சுப்புவும், லட்சுமணனும், ‘எதுக்கு நமக்கு ரிஸ்க்? விஸ்வநாதன் சார் பிரமாதமாக மியூஸிக் போடுகிறார். நம்ம படத்திற்கு ஒரு மெரிட் இருக்கும். டிஸ்ட்ரிப்யூட்டரும் படத்தை வாங்குறதுக்கு ஒரு பேரும் இருக்க வேண்டாமா?’ என்று சொன்னார்கள். ‘அதைப் பற்றி ஒன்றும் பேசவேண்டாம், முடிந்து போன விஷயம். ராஜாதான் மியூஸிக்!” என்று பஞ்சு சார் ஒரேயடியாக அடித்துச் சொல்லிவிட்டார். இதைக்கேட்டு அவர்களது தம்பிகளும் பேசாமல் இருந்தார்கள். பூஜை தேதியும் குறிக்கப்பட்டது. கவிஞர் கண்ணதாசனிடம் பாட்டெழுத கேட்ட நேரத்தில் அவர் சிங்கப்பூர் போவதாகச் சொல்லிவிட்டார். ‘எப்போது திரும்பி வருவார்?’ என்று கேட்டதற்கு, ‘படத்தின் பூஜை முடிந்த பிறகுதான் திரும்பிவருவார்’ என்று பதில் வந்தது. எனக்கு மிகவும் வருத்தமாக இருந்தது. அதே நேரம் ‘பூஜையை நிறுத்த வேண்டாம். நானே பாட்டு எழுதிவிடுகிறேன்’ என்று பஞ்சு சார் கூறிவிட்டார். அதன்படி பாடலை எழுதித்தந்தார்.

ரிகர்சல் நாள் வந்தது. கவிஞர் வீட்டின் அருகில் இருக்கும் பாலாஜி கல்யாண மண்டபத்தில் ஒரு ஞாயிற்றுக்கிழமை எல்லா ஆர்கெஸ்ட்ராவும் வந்தது. காலையில் ‘அன்னக்கிளி உன்னைத்தேடுதே’ பாடலுக்கு ரிகர்சல் செய்தோம். அவர்களுக்கெல்லாம் புதிய அனுபவமாக இருந்தது. எனக்கும் உற்சாகமாக இருந்தது. இரண்டாவதாக, ‘மச்சானைப் பார்த்தீங்களா’ பாடலை ரிகர்சல் செய்தோம். மதிய உணவுக்குப் பின் மாலை 4 மணிக்கு பாடகி எஸ். ஜானகி வந்தார். பெரும்பாலும், பாடகர்கள் பெரிய இசையமைப்பாளருக்குத் தான் முக்கியத்துவம் கொடுப்பார்கள். ஆனால் ஜானகி, ஜி.கே.வி. ரெக்கார்டிங்கில் என்னிடம் பழகி இருக்கிறார். தவறாகப் பாடினால் ஜி.கே.வி. என்னைவிட்டு சரியாக சொல்லிக்கொடுக்கச் சொல்லும்போது, நான் பாடி சரிசெய்வதை தெரிந்தவர். ரிகர்சலுக்கு வந்து ஒத்துழைத்தார். பாடல் சொல்லிக்கொடுக்கும்போதே, அதனுடைய ஜீவனைப் புரிந்து கொண்டார். இது மிகவும் புதிது என்று தெரிந்து மிகவும் கவனத்தோடு கற்றுக்கொண்டார்.

சுப்புவுக்கும், லட்சுமணனனுக்கும், என் மீது இருந்த சந்தேகம் தீர்ந்துபோனது. ‘நீ நன்றாகப் பாடுவாய் என்று நம்பிக்கை இருந்தது. ஆனால் அது இவ்வளவு புதுசாக இருக்கும் என்று எதிர்பார்க்கவில்லை’ என்று இரட்டிப்பு சந்தோஷத்தோடு பஞ்சுசார் சொன்னார். அடுத்த நாள் பூஜை. நானும், பாஸ்கர், அமர் ஆகியோரும் 6 மணிக்கு திருவேற்காடு போய்விட்டு, ஸ்டுடியோவுக்கு 7 மணிக்கு முன் வந்துவிட்டோம். பூஜை முடிந்தது, ரிகர்சல் தொடங்கியது. அர்க்கெஸ்ட்ராவெல்லாம் அமர்ந்து, ‘Ready .. One .. Two .. Three” என்று நான் சொன்ன அந்த நொடியில் ‘மின்சாரம் கட்’ ஆகி விளக்குகள் அணைந்துவிட்டன. எனக்கு சப்த நாடியும் அடங்கிவிட்டது. டோலக் வாசிக்கும் பாபுராஜ், ‘ம்ம்.. நல்ல சகுனம்’ என்றார், கேலியாக.

மனம் உடைந்த நான், ஸ்டுடியோவில் பாடுபவர்களுக்கு இருக்கும் ரூமின் பின் கதவைத் திறந்து தனியாக உட்கார்ந்திருந்தேன். சிறிது நேரம் அப்படியே கழிந்தது. தம்பி அமரும், பாஸ்கரும் என்னைத் தேடிவந்து, ‘டைரக்டர் மாதவன் சார் வந்திருக்கார். உன்னைப் பார்க்க வேண்டுமாம்’ என்றனர். நான் உடனே எழுந்து போனேன். அவர் ‘கருமாரியம்மன் கோவிலுக்கு போயிட்டு வந்தேன். இந்தா பிரசாதம்’ என்று என் கையில் கொடுத்தார். பின்னர், ’நான்தான் உனக்கு சான்ஸ் கொடுக்கணும்னு நினைத்தேன். ஆனா பஞ்சு முந்திவிட்டார்’ என்றார். அது உடைந்த மனதுக்கு ஆறுதலாக இருந்தது. போன மின்சாரமும் வந்தது. தேங்காயில் கற்பூரம் ஏற்றி சாமிக்குக் காட்டிவிட்டு வெளியே சிதறுகாய் எறிந்து உடைக்கப்பட்டது.

“Silence..! Take..! Running..!” என்ற குரல் ஒலிக்க கோவர்தன் மாஸ்டர், ‘One.. Two..” கொடுக்க, ஜானகி ‘ஆ…ஆ…’ என்று ஹம்மிங் தொடங்க, பாடல் நன்றாக வந்தது. எஞ்சினியர் சம்பத், ஒன்ஸ்மொர் என்று கேட்கப் போனார்.

“முதல் டேக் டேப்பைப் போட்டுக்காட்டினால், ஆர்கெஸ்ட்ராவின் தவறுகளை அவர்களே கேட்டுத் திருத்திக்கொள்வார்களே’ என்று நான் கூறினேன். எல்லாரையும் உள்ளே அழைத்தேன். சம்பத்தோ, ‘என்ன இது? இந்தப் பையன் இப்படிச் செய்கிறானே?’ என்று நினைத்தார். ‘ராஜா! இன்னும் ஒரு டேக் எடுத்திடலாமே’ என்றார். ‘எடுக்கலாம் சார்! ஆனா இதைப் போட்டுக்கேட்டா, அவங்க தவறி வாசிச்சதை அவங்களே திருத்தி வாசிப்பாங்க’ என்றேன்.

‘சரி’ என்று டேப்பை Rewind செய்தார். அதன் பின்னர் டேப்பை ஆன் செய்தார். டேப் ஓடியது. இப்போது வரும், இப்போது வரப்போகிறது என்று எல்லோரும் ஆவலோடு எதிர்பார்க்க, எதிர்பார்க்க, டேப் ஓடியதே தவிர, அதிலிருந்து ஒரு சப்தமும் வரவில்லை. காரணம் பாடல் பதிவாகவில்லை! ரெக்கார்ட் மூடில் மெஷினே ஓட்டவில்லை என்பது சம்பத்துக்குத் தெரிந்து போய்விட்டது. உடனே, ‘சார், சார்..! பாட்டு பதிவாகலை சார், One More take Sir..!” என்றார். சுப்பு சாரின் முகம் மாறியது. ஒரு மாதிரியாகி வெளியே எழுந்து போய்விட்டார்.

‘டேக் நம்பர் ஒன்று இரண்டு’ என்று நம்பர்களை ஏற்றிக்கொண்டே போனார்கள். 12 டேக் ஆனது. பஞ்சு சார் மட்டும் இத்தனை கலாட்டாக்களுக்கு நடுவிலும் அமைதியாக இருந்தார். 2வது பாடல் ‘மச்சானைப் பார்த்தீங்களா” பதிவாகியது. ‘சொந்தமில்லை பந்தமில்லை’ பாடலை சுசீலா பாட ரெக்கார்டு செய்தோம்.

‘அன்னக்கிளி உன்னைத்தேடுதே’ பாடல், சோகப்பாடலாக மறுபடியும் ஒருமுறை வந்தால் நன்றாக இருக்கும் என்று பஞ்சுசாரும், டைரக்டர் தேவராஜ் மோகனும் விரும்பினார்கள். அந்தப் பாடலை டி.எம்.சவுந்திரராஜன் நன்றாகப் பாடிக்கொடுத்தார். பாடல்கள் எல்லாம் பதிவாகி முடிந்தன. அதன்பின் படத்தின் சூட்டிங் நடந்தது”

சிவகுமாரும், சுஜாதாவும் நடித்த ‘அன்னக்கிளி’ 14-05-1976 அன்று வெளிவந்தது. எம்.ஜி.ஆரும், சிவாஜியும் கொடிகட்டிப் பறந்த காலம் அது. எனவே அன்னக்கிளிக்குப் பெரிய எதிர்பார்ப்பு இல்லை. ஆரம்பத்தில் பெரிய கூட்டம் இல்லை. சில ஊர்களில் ஒரே வாரத்தில் படத்தை எடுத்து விட்டார்கள். படத்தைப் பார்த்தவர்கள் வெளியே வந்து, ‘படம் மிகவும் சிறப்பாக இருக்கிறது. குறிப்பாக, இளையராஜா என்ற புதிய இசையமைப்பாளர் பாடல்களுக்குப் போட்டுள்ள மெட்டுகள் அருமையாக உள்ளன’ என்று கூறியது, ரசிகர்களிடையே பரவியது. பத்திரிகைகளும் படத்தையும், இசையையும் பாராட்டி விமர்சனங்கள் எழுதின. இதனால் தியேட்டர்களில், நாளுக்கு நாள் கூட்டம் அதிகமாகியது. ஒரே வாரத்தில் படத்தை எடுத்த தியேட்டர்களில், மீண்டும் ‘அன்னக்கிளி’ திரையிடப்பட்டது. 15 நாட்களில் ‘அன்னக்கிளி’ திரையிடப்பட்ட தியேட்டர்களில் கூட்டம் அலைமோதியது. ஒவ்வொரு காட்சியும் ஹவுஸ்ஃபுல் ஆனது. அன்னக்கிளி இசைத்தட்டு வெளிவந்து சக்கைபோடு போட்டது. ‘அன்னக்கிளி ஒன்னைத்தேடுது’, ‘மச்சானைப் பார்த்தீங்களா’, ‘ நம்ம வீட்டுக் கல்யாணம்’ முதலான பாடல்கள் ரேடியோவில் மாறி மாறி ஒலித்தன. அன்னக்கிளி 200 நாட்கள் ஓடி வெற்றி விழா கொண்டாடியது.

நன்றி: ’வரலாற்றுச் சுவடுகள்’, தினத்தந்தி

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ஜூன் 2002 ‘கணையாழி’யில் வெளியான திரு. செழியன் அவர்களின் கட்டுரையிலிருந்து…

”ஒருமுறை எனது இசைவகுப்பின் ஆசிரியர் மேற்கத்திய இசையின் கூட்டுச்சுரங்கள் (Chords) பற்றிய பாடத்தில் ‘C Major’ Scale பற்றி நடத்தினார். அப்போது ‘C Major’ Scale’ன் முதல் Chord ‘C’ Major, இரண்டாவது Chord ‘D Minor”. ஒரு பாடலின் ஏற்பாட்டில் (Arrangements) இந்த இரண்டு Chordகளையும் அடுத்தடுத்து இசைப்பது தவறானது' என்று சொன்னார். கர்நாடக சங்கீதத்திலும், ஸட்ஜமம் என்கிற முதல் ஸ்வரத்திற்கு, அடுத்து வருகிற இரண்டாவது ஸ்வரமான ரிஷபம் பகைஸ்வரம். இதுபோலவே மேற்கத்திய இசையிலும் முதல் Chord (இதனை Tonic Chord என்றும் இரண்டாவது Super tonic Chord என்றும் அழைக்க வேண்டும்) அதற்கடுத்த இரண்டாவது Chord’உடன் இணைந்து வருவதில்லை.

’உதிரிப்பூக்கள்’ படத்தில் ‘அழகிய கண்ணே’ பாடலைக் கேட்கும்போது அந்தப் பாடலின் துவக்கமே C Major, D Minor இரண்டு Chord’களின் அடுத்தடுத்த தொடர்ச்சியோடு இருந்தது ஆச்சரியமாக இருந்தது. இதைப்போல ஹார்மனி (Harmony) பற்றிய பாடத்தில், ஒரு இசையை இயற்றும்போது, ஒரு ஸ்வரத்திலிருந்து அடுத்த ஸ்வரத்திற்கு நகருகையில் ஒரு ஒழுங்கான இயக்கம் (movement) இருக்க வேண்டும். முதல் ஸ்வரத்திலிருந்து ஏழாவது ஸ்வரத்துக்கு தாவுதல் போன்ற Great Jump செய்யக்கூடாது; அது இனிமையாக இருக்காது என்பது இசைக் கோட்பாடு. ஒரு இசைவிதி. ‘செந்தூரப்பூவே’ என்ற ‘பதினாறு வயதினிலே’ பாடலைக் கேட்கும்போதும், ‘என்னுள்ளில் எங்கோ..’ என்ற ‘ரோசாப்பூ ரவிக்கைக்காரி’ பாடலின் ஹம்மிங் கேட்கும்போதும் இந்த விதி இவரால் எவ்வளவு அழகாக மீறப்பட்டிருக்கிறது என்பது புரிந்தது.

இவை மிகச்சிறிய உதாரணங்கள். இதுபோல மேலோட்டமாகப் புலப்படாத, இசைவிதிகளுக்கு முரணான மீறல்களைத் தனது பாடல்கள் பெரும்பாலானவற்றில் நிகழ்த்துவதன் மூலம் விதிகளைத் திருத்தி எழுதியிருக்கிறார். இதுபோலவே ‘மலர்களே, நாதஸ்வரங்கள்’ என்ற பாடலின் முடிவு அந்தரத்தில் ஒரு மணியோசையோடு முடியும். Cadence’ விதிகளின் இனிமையான மீறல் இது.

ஒரு பாடலை ஏதேனும் இசைக்கருவியில் வாசித்துப் பார்க்கும்போதுதான் ராகங்களை, அதன் கடினத்தன்மையை எப்படியெல்லாம் இவர் இனிமையாக்கியிருக்கிறார் என்பது புரியும். Chord Progression’ல் Dischord என்று ஒதுக்கப்படுகிறவைகளைக்கூட இவர் இனிமையாகக் கையாள்கிற விதம் ஆச்சரியமானது. ‘என் வானிலே’ என்ற ‘ஜானி’ படப்பாடலின் ஸ்வரங்களின் முரணான தொடர்ச்சியும், அதன் போக்குக்கேற்ப புனையப்படும் chordகளின் தொடர்ச்சியும் அலாதியானது.

ஒரு மைத்துளி நீர்ப்பரப்பில் உதிரும்போது உள்வரையும் சித்திரம்போல, இவரது படைப்புச் செயல்பாடு தன்னிச்சையாக, விதிகளைப் பொருட்படுத்தாமல் தனக்குள்ளாக ஒரு இயங்குதலோடு நிகழ்கிறது.

நன்றி : கணையாழி, ஜூன் 2002

தகவல் நன்றி: திரு. Senthil Kumar Jayakumar