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ajithfederer
31st December 2009, 08:22 PM
IMO, Hollywood's current best writer and director . His new film Inception is scheduled to release on July 16 2010. Link to his film's new trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8Z3PlZTSdI).

Dark Knight Discussions (http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?t=11772&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

More later. :D.

Appu s
31st December 2009, 08:36 PM
Feddy :D :thumbsup:

Vivasaayi
31st December 2009, 08:58 PM
:)

Memento is my Fav.

Dark Knight and Following next to it

kid-glove
31st December 2009, 11:45 PM
Liked all his films.

Memento/The Prestige
Dark Knight
Following
Insomnia

Will come at second rack of favorite modern day auteurs. The first being the trinity of PT Anderson, Coens and QT. That's MO of course.

ajithfederer
31st December 2009, 11:50 PM
Nein Nein nein nein nein ......nein :evil:

Nolan also belongs to the first rack. He is showing great promise. Let's give him some time. :)

ajithfederer
1st January 2010, 12:18 AM
Successful producer, film director and writer Christopher Jonathan James Nolan famous by the name Christopher Nolan was born on the 30th July 1970 in London. Christopher holds dual citizenship of the United Kingdom and the United States of America as his father was from the UK and his mother hailed from the US. He married Emma Thomas in 1997 a film producer and ardent admirer of Nolan’s work. The couple is have four children residing with them in Los Angeles. His brother Jonathan Nolan is a renowned author with whom Christopher often collaborates during the production of his movies.

Nolan spent considerable time between London and Chicago during his childhood. Nolan was educated in an independent school known as Hailey Bury College, in Hertfordshire near Hertford, England. Later Christopher Nolan learned the intricacies of English literature at University College London. An early starter Christopher Nolan started shooting films with a super 8 camera borrowed from his father. As a child he made short films with Roko Belic a future producer and director based at Chicago. Nolan made many short films in the University College London film society. His First Short Film Tarantella was shown in 1989 on PBS. In 1996 during the Cambridge Film Festival Larceny the second short film by Christopher Nolan was shown.

In 1996 Nolan directed his first feature film Titled Following. The film portrays the story of a writer obsessed with following unknown people randomly. The viewer becomes a little disoriented as scenes disregard chronological order. The movie was produced within a budget of a mere $6000 and was shot on weekends. Due to its unconventional storytelling style the film received attention after premiering at the 1998 San Francisco Film Festival. As a result of that Nolan got the script from Newmarket Films for his next film Memento.

Memento is a highly praised movie and was nominated for an Academy Award and Golden Globe for best screenplay. It is story of a widower named Leonard Shelby played by Australian actor Guy Pearce. The principal character of the film is unable to form new memories because of an old head injury. Nolan’s unique technique of presentation distinguished the film from its counterparts.

The film Insomnia was directed by Christopher Nolan in 2002, an American adaptation of a Norwegian film released in 1997 by the same name. The movie’s star cast includes Al Pacino, Robin Williams and Hilary Swank. Insomnia was appreciated by the critics. Although Christopher Nolan was satisfied with his directorial abilities he always wanted to direct a blockbuster, this opportunity came in the form of Batman Begins in the year 2003.

On the 15th June 2005 Batman Begins was released and jumped to the position of 3rd biggest blockbuster of that summer. The movie was highly acclaimed in the global scenario and is often rated above its 1989 counterpart. At the 32nd annual Saturn Awards, Batman Begins emerged as a major winner bagging the awards for Best Fantasy Film, Best Writing for Nolan and Goyer and Best Actor for Christian Bale. Batman Begins was also nominated for the Academy Award for Best Cinematography.

The next directorial endeavour of Christopher Nolan was The Prestige a film co-produced by his wife Emma Thomas, and co-scripted by his brother Jonathan Nolan. The movie got a positive response from critics and earned over $109 million worldwide. After the release of The Prestige, Nolan expressed his desire to direct a sequel to Batman Begins the outcome of this desire produced The Dark Knight in 2006, repeating a successful box office collection with $158 million in returns.

Christopher Nolan’s upcoming movie is an adaptation of The Prisoner a 1960s series based on the life of a British secret-agent. —www.christophernolan.org

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VENKIRAJA
1st January 2010, 01:58 AM
Nein Nein nein nein nein ......nein :evil:

Nolan also belongs to the first rack. He is showing great promise. Let's give him some time. :)

Darren Aronofsky? I'd put him along with Nolan.

kid-glove
15th February 2010, 04:08 PM
DiCaprio admits sci-fi film leaves him 'baffled'

Monday, February 15, 2010 - 09:59 AM

Leonardo DiCaprio can't understand the plot of his new science-fiction movie 'Inception'.

The actor - who stars in director Chris Nolan's new film 'Inception', which is set to be released later in the year - said he struggled to understand the concept behind the movie which is based on the idea that a technology can enter dreams and extract information from people's minds.

He said: "I don't know where to begin, it's really hard. I don't know what I'm supposed to say about it, but it's Chris Nolan delving into dream psychoanalysis and also making a high octane, action-filled, surreal film that is all spawned from his mind. He wrote the entire thing, and it all made sense to him."

The 35-year-old Hollywood star admitted the complex film left him completely baffled at times.

He told the Daily Telegraph: "It didn't make much sense to us when we were doing it, and we had to do a ton of detective work to try to figure out what the movie was and what we were doing from day to day, but, thank god, we had somebody who knew what he was doing."

Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/entertainment/dicaprio-admits-sci-fi-film-leaves-him-baffled-446222.html#ixzz0fbDdhQeJ

:lol: :thumbsup:

Aalavanthan
15th February 2010, 04:16 PM
Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/entertainment/dicaprio-admits-sci-fi-film-leaves-him-baffled-446222.html#ixzz0fbDdhQeJ

:lol: :thumbsup:

This one for sure comes under this category :lol:

P_R
15th February 2010, 04:27 PM
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ajithfederer
22nd February 2010, 10:28 PM
Adaada idhai ivvalo naal paakama vuttuten. Thanks kg.

littlemaster1982
9th May 2010, 10:38 AM
Inception - Theatrical Trailer

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vibinrajmani
9th May 2010, 04:06 PM
A cross of the Matrix and Minority Report perhaps?

kid-glove
10th May 2010, 12:22 AM
Trust Nolan to get his casting right. Cotillard, Page, Caine, Gordon-Levitt, Watanabe :notworthy:

Di Caprio with another mind-bender after Shutter Island. And hell, that's a RELATIVELY simpler film that people FOUND to be very complicated. This is a complete Chris Nolan film. Jonathan isn't credited ! :)

kid-glove
10th May 2010, 12:24 AM
A cross of the Matrix and Minority Report perhaps?
And a tinge of "Dark City" too. :)

ajithfederer
10th May 2010, 12:29 AM
duhhh. Nolan is much more than that.

A cross of the Matrix and Minority Report perhaps?

kid-glove
10th May 2010, 12:34 AM
There will never be a film like "The Matrix" for decades.

kid-glove
10th May 2010, 12:35 AM
There's a lot of interesting themes at play in "Minority report", a bit underrated among Spielberg's films IMO.

vibinrajmani
10th May 2010, 09:14 AM
There's a lot of interesting themes at play in "Minority report", a bit underrated among Spielberg's films IMO.

Yes, my favorite film of all-time! :D

Appu s
10th May 2010, 10:23 AM
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Appu s
10th May 2010, 11:43 AM
Christopher Nolan's 'Inception' -- Hollywood's first existential heist film

Inception," the 39-year-old director's seventh feature film and his first foray into science fiction, combines the perception riddles of "Memento" and the sheer scale of "Dark Knight" with its $160-million budget and location shoots in Morocco, France, Japan and three other countries. The film stars Leonardo DiCaprio as a specialist in the new branch of corporate espionage -- he's a dream thief who plucks secrets from the minds of tycoons after pumping them full of drugs and hooking them up to a mysterious contraption. The problem, though, is the land of nod can be volatile -- as can DiCaprio's character, Dom Cobb, who is a wounded dreamer after the loss of his beloved wife.

The movie may be Hollywood's first existential heist movie, and though that may not sound like typical fare for the air-conditioning months, Warners and Legendary Pictures are banking on the movie catching on as a brainy "Mission: Impossible" by way of "The Matrix." In other words, the globe-trotting movie may have had its subconscious baggage packed by Sigmund Freud, but it also carries a passport stamped by Ian Fleming. DiCaprio says Nolan is the perfect director to turn that unlikely combination into a July hit.

Complex and ambiguous are the perfect way to describe the story," DiCaprio said in a recent phone interview. "And it's going to be a challenge to ultimately pull it off. But that is what Chris Nolan specializes in. He has been able to convey really complex narratives that work on a multitude of different layers ... and make it entertaining and engaging throughout. You look at 'Insomnia' or 'Memento,' these movies are working on so many different levels. That's his expertise; it's what he does best, as a matter of fact."

For Nolan, "Inception" was an elusive dream. "I wanted to do this for a very long time; it's something I've thought about off and on since I was about 16," Nolan said during a break in shooting last summer. "I wrote the first draft of this script seven or eight years ago, but it goes back much further, this idea of approaching dream and the dream life as another state of reality."

"I originally wrote it as a heist movie, and heist movies traditionally are very deliberately superficial in emotional terms," Nolan said. "They're frivolous and glamorous, and there's a sort of gloss and fun to it. I originally tried to write it that way, but when I came back to it I realized that -- to me -- that didn't work for a film that relies so heavily on the idea of the interior state, the idea of dream and memory. I realized I needed to raise the emotional stakes. What we found in working on 'Batman' is that it's the emotionalism that best connects the audience with the material. The character issues, those are the things that pull the audience through it and amplify the experience no matter how strange things get."

more to read......
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/04/christopher-nolans-inception-hollywoods-first-existential-heist-film-.html

m_karthik
12th May 2010, 01:09 AM
Next Batman Movie, tentatively titled as Batman 3 is slated for release on July 20,2012. To be directed by Chris Nolannnnnn. Hope it will break TDK opening weekend record

ajithfederer
27th May 2010, 10:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBSuSJsjBow

April 06, 2010 — Christopher Nolan (The Dark Knight) shares more information on his upcoming movie, Inception. Emma Thomas(Wife and Producer) also shares her opinions.
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ajithfederer
27th May 2010, 10:24 PM
Nolan says that he grew up being a huge fan of Stanley Kubrick's 2001.

:).

Stiglitz
27th May 2010, 10:44 PM
Next Batman Movie, tentatively titled as Batman 3 is slated for release on July 20,2012. To be directed by Chris Nolannnnnn. Hope it will break TDK opening weekend record

Any hint at who the villan is going to be?

Joker again? Without Heath?

The Riddler? Only person who's played it in the past was Jim Carey. He suited it well. :P

The Penguin? :? Maybe....

kid-glove
27th May 2010, 11:10 PM
I'm sure Joker will get a prolific actor it deserves after the magnitude of Heath's achievements.

Will Jonathan get back to working with Chris on this film, after the Spielberg project? Or the script is already written?

As for Inception, somehow the trailer doesn't entice as much as his other film trailers have in the past. For example, The Prestige and The Dark knight were far more hard-hitting. This seems more sleek and has all the makings of a layered Sci-Fi thriller.

Return of the Joker and his punch dialogs, the action set-piece, promise of two-face, etc Above all the title made TDK arresting with promise of darkness even before it released. Visually, the film looked as bleak as Heat-meets-Blade Runner. So the interest and expectation went several notches up after the trailer.

The Prestige trailer promised a face to face tussle and a conflict between two characters like TDK, and the artifice of magic in conjunction with structure of the film, namely the three acts - The Pledge, the turn and the Prestige - in connotations of three-act play/drama.

Again, I'm not saying Inception is going to be a lesser film. But Nolan is yet to shake us with as good a trailer as his last two features..

ajithfederer
21st June 2010, 08:48 PM
[tscii:6866145c6a]Dom Cobb (Leonardo DiCaprio) is a skilled thief in the art of "extraction," stealing secrets from deep within the unconscious mind during the dream state, when the mind is at its most vulnerable. Cobb's rare ability has made him valuable in corporate espionage. In one last job, he must cause an "inception" – instead of stealing an idea, he must plant one. Christopher Nolan, the director of the movie, was quoted as saying "We don't do magic. Everything in Inception has a basis in reality, except for the technology" – apparently referring to the absence of metaphysical content in the film. :clap:


The official plot synopsis is as follows:

"Acclaimed filmmaker Christopher Nolan directs an international cast in an original sci-fi actioner that travels around the globe and into the intimate and infinite world of dreams. Dom Cobb (Leonardo DiCaprio) is a skilled thief, the absolute best in the dangerous art of extraction, stealing valuable secrets from deep within the unconscious mind during the dream state, when the mind is at its most vulnerable. Cobb’s rare ability has made him a coveted player in this treacherous new world of corporate espionage, but it has also made him an international fugitive and cost him everything he has ever loved. Now Cobb is being offered a chance at redemption. One last job could give him his life back but only if he can accomplish the impossible—inception. Instead of the perfect heist, Cobb and his team of specialists have to pull off the reverse: their task is not to steal an idea but to plant one. If they succeed, it could be the perfect crime. But no amount of careful planning or expertise can prepare the team for the dangerous enemy that seems to predict their every move. An enemy that only Cobb could have seen coming. This summer, your mind is the scene of the crime."[4]


From wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inception_(film)

Sooperappu!!!![/tscii:6866145c6a]

m_karthik
3rd July 2010, 07:26 AM
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Next Batman Movie, tentatively titled as Batman 3 is slated for release on July 20,2012. To be directed by Chris Nolannnnnn. Hope it will break TDK opening weekend record

Any hint at who the villan is going to be?

Joker again? Without Heath?

The Riddler? Only person who's played it in the past was Jim Carey. He suited it well. :P

The Penguin? :? Maybe....

Nolan says, "Without getting into specifics, the key thing that makes the third film a great possibility for us is that we want to finish our story. And in viewing it as the finishing of a story rather than infinitely blowing up the balloon and expanding the story . . . I’m very excited about the end of the film, the conclusion, and what we’ve done with the characters. My brother has come up with some pretty exciting stuff."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/03/christopher-nolan-takes-flight-with-superman-we-have-a-fantastic-story-1.html

On June 4, 2010 Christopher Nolan spoke with Empire magazine and confirmed that the Joker will not return. When asked he said, “No…I just don’t feel comfortable about it.”

http://thefilmstage.com/2010/06/04/chris-nolan-says-no-joker-in-batman-3-talks-superman/
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ajaybaskar
3rd July 2010, 12:40 PM
I read somewhere that Joseph Gordon-Levitt (500 days of summer, Inception) will play the antagonist in Batman 3.

Siv.S
3rd July 2010, 01:00 PM
I read somewhere that Joseph Gordon-Levitt (500 days of summer, Inception) will play the antagonist in Batman 3.
// Anyone feel like this 500 DOS guy looks like younger brother of Heath ledger? :lol: I felt like that while watching 500 DOS. //

jinju
3rd July 2010, 01:51 PM
I read somewhere that Joseph Gordon-Levitt (500 days of summer, Inception) will play the antagonist in Batman 3.
// Anyone feel like this 500 DOS guy looks like younger brother of Heath ledger? :lol: I felt like that while watching 500 DOS. //

// :yes: ...he does//

kid-glove
3rd July 2010, 04:33 PM
There was an interesting analogy and superimposition of film/drama (three act) structure vis-a-vis artifice of 'Magic' in The Prestige.

While Following was in regards to 'voyeuristic' deceit..Memento was in regards to 'memory' and the 'photographic'..

Inception will now incept into "dream"-like meta state that Films, when it's done best, often metamorphose into. Forget 3-D etc (even if we watch in 2-D on screen, the characters on the screen registers in our brain as 3-D in both visual and visceral level). Film itself is a metaphysical/magic-like medium that 'make believes', and by that, it is analogous to 'dream'. And filmmaking's basis is also in reality like the latter, the manifestation and surreal-ization of 'realism' does also finds its roots in 'Dream'. Of course, Matrix does it to the most expansive and extensive level. As does Cronenberg's films like Videodrome and ExistenZ in a somewhat exaggerated, farcical manner, without divorcing the human center.

I particularly appreciate Nolan for finding such cogent and relevant concept/themes that this medium deserves!

This is a FDFS material (but I said that for Toy story 3 as well, which I haven't watched yet :oops: )

jinju
3rd July 2010, 04:55 PM
There was an interesting analogy and superimposition of film/drama (three act) structure vis-a-vis artifice of 'Magic' in The Prestige.

While Following was in regards to 'voyeuristic' deceit..Memento was in regards to 'memory' and the 'photographic'..

Inception will now incept into "dream"-like meta state that Films, when it's done best, often metamorphose into. Forget 3-D etc (even if we watch in 2-D on screen, the characters on the screen registers in our brain as 3-D in both visual and visceral level). Film itself is a metaphysical/magic-like medium that 'make believes', and by that, it is analogous to 'dream'. And filmmaking's basis is also in reality like the latter, the manifestation and surreal-ization of 'realism' does also finds its roots in 'Dream'. Of course, Matrix does it to the most expansive and extensive level. As does Cronenberg's films like Videodrome and ExistenZ in a somewhat exaggerated, farcical manner, without divorcing the human center.

I particularly appreciate Nolan for finding such cogent and relevant concept/themes that this medium deserves!

This is a FDFS material (but I said that for Toy story 3 as well, which I haven't watched yet :oops: )

hope it releases here too on 16th...but no trailers/posters yet, tho in the big cinemas website it's shown as releasing on 16th...the last airbender/SALT trailers/posters etc r being shown in big cinemas here when i went for raavanan... :(

ajaybaskar
3rd July 2010, 05:40 PM
In PVR Chennai, they have a scroller for 'Inception'. Not sure if it has a simultaneous release..

kid-glove
3rd July 2010, 05:41 PM
Apparently, The Last Airbender is the last nail into Shyamalan's coffin. :oops: :(

Siv.S
6th July 2010, 04:32 PM
Inception review, you can read the full review here in this link, i have not posted the plot here...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/inception-film-review-1004102197.story

In a summer of remakes, reboots and sequels comes "Inception," easily the most original movie idea in ages.

Now "original" doesn't mean its chases, cliffhangers, shoot-outs, skullduggery and last-minute rescues. Movies have trafficked in those things forever. What's new here is how writer-director Christopher Nolan repackages all this with a science-fiction concept that allows his characters to chase and shoot across multiple levels of reality.

This is, in some ways, a con-game movie, only the action takes place entirely within the characters' minds while they dream.

Following up on such ingenious and intriguing films as "The Dark Knight" and "Memento," Nolan has outdone himself. "Inception" puts him not only at the top of the heap of sci-fi all-stars, but it also should put this Warner Bros. release near or at the top of the summer movies. It's very hard to see how a film that plays so winningly to so many demographics would not be a worldwide hit.

Not that the film doesn't have its antecedents. "Dreamscape" (1984) featured a man who could enter and manipulate dreams, and, of course, in "The Matrix" (1999) human beings and machines battled on various reality levels created by artificial intelligence.

In "Inception," Nolan imagines a new kind of corporate espionage wherein a thief enters a person's brain during the dream state to steal ideas. This is done by an entire team of "extractors" who design the architecture of the dreams, forge identities within the dream and even pharmacologically help several people to share these dreams.

Bottom Line: A devilishly complicated, fiendishly enjoyable sci-fi voyage across a dreamscape that is thoroughly compelling.

Siv.S
6th July 2010, 04:34 PM
One more review
http://movies.ign.com/articles/110/1103912p1.html
With Inception, Nolan has made his equivalent to The Big Sleep (ironic given the subject matter of Nolan's film), a thriller whose near indecipherable storyline will boggle minds decades to come -- or even his 2001, a genre opus guaranteed to confound or amaze viewers. Or is it Nolan's finally realized attempt at making a James Bond film? Or a heist thriller to rival Heat? A better version of Dreamscape? Inception is all of the above, and yet it's also a singular accomplishment from a filmmaker who has only gotten better with each film. Indeed, Inception could very well be Nolan's masterpiece.

Siv.S
6th July 2010, 04:57 PM
http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=136118

kid-glove
6th July 2010, 05:19 PM
Read a review on "Inception" book-ended with 'Kubrick would have been proud'. Preceded by 'dazzling mindtrip'. Not that I cringed, but it's absurd to someone (like me) who regards Nolan to be a very different filmmaker..

kid-glove
6th July 2010, 05:19 PM
Here's the review:

http://www.boxofficemagazine.com/reviews/theatrical/2010-07-inception

P_R
6th July 2010, 06:39 PM
Read a review on "Inception" book-ended with 'Kubrick would have been proud'. Preceded by 'dazzling mindtrip'. Not that I cringed, but it's absurd to someone (like me) who regards Nolan to be a very different filmmaker..
I have found Nolan a whole lot more enjoyable and intelligible (a precondition for enjoyability I guess :-) ). So ekkuththappA edhirpAkkurEn.

Nerd
6th July 2010, 09:01 PM
http://beta.rottentomatoes.com/m/inception/ - Fantastic initial reviews. Will quite easily be the best film of the year. Looking forward is an understatement.

kid-glove
9th July 2010, 11:01 AM
Because, of course, you're not really looking
http://twitpic.com/23nrm3/full

kid-glove
9th July 2010, 11:31 AM
"I'm not a huge fan of 3-D."

The director of "The Dark Knight" added that, after doing 3-D tests, his new film "Inception" will not be released in the trendy stereoscopic format because "we didn't have time to do it to the standards that I would be happy with."

"The truth is, I think it's a misnomer to call it 3-D versus 2-D. The whole point of cinematic imagery is it's three-dimensional. ... You know, 95% of our depth cues come from occlusion, resolution, color and so forth, so the idea of calling a 2-D movie a '2-D movie' is a little misleading."

"The truth of it is when you watch a film in here, you're looking at 16 foot-lamberts, When you watch through any of the conventional 3-D processes you're giving up three foot-lamberts. A massive difference. You're not that aware of it because once you're 'in that world,' your eye compensates, but having struggled for years to get theaters get up to the proper brightness, we're not sticking polarized filters in everything."

"Well, let me put it this way: There is no question if audiences want to watch films in stereoscopic imaging, that's what the studios will be doing, and that's what I'll be doing."

"We did tests on 'Inception' with the different post-conversion processes, and they all went very well. It's quite easy to do, in fact. But it takes a little time, and we didn't have time to do it to the standards that I would be happy with."

"It's all based on all the visual-effects technology, you know, that we're currently most engaged in with match moving, so forth, and rendering 2-D imagery into a 3-D space. ... On a technical level, it's fascinating, but on an experiential level, I find the dimness of the image extremely alienating."

"There are a lot of problems with it ... the idea of shooting a whole film through a massive beam-splitter and so forth -- there are enormous compromises. Post-conversion technologies probably, for me, are definitely the future, but really it is up to the audiences what they want to see and how they want to watch their films."

:clap:

"I'm certainly quite pleased with 'Inception' as presented -- it's very bright and very clear, so as the technology improves, those differences may change, and that is what I hope for."

:thumbsup:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/06/christopher-nolan-inception-3d-dark-knight-hollywood.html

kid-glove
9th July 2010, 11:32 AM
Shortened 6 minute footage of Nolan's research for Inception:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEItJLwvsF0&feature=player_embedded
(Rudimentary, but watch if you want to)..

Sanjeevi
9th July 2010, 02:40 PM
Can't wait to see inception that too after dark knight and getting good reviews :)

raghavendran
9th July 2010, 03:32 PM
Can't wait to see inception that too after dark knight and getting good reviews :) :yes:

m_karthik
11th July 2010, 05:35 AM
17 fresh rating out of 17 so far in rotten tomatoes..

5 Days more

great
11th July 2010, 09:32 AM
Good, Inception is releasing in chennai this week :)

kid-glove
11th July 2010, 01:19 PM
Good, Inception is releasing in chennai this week :)
Whoa, now thats what you call great NEWS! You made my day saar!!

Sanjeevi
11th July 2010, 07:34 PM
Good, Inception is releasing in chennai this week :)

that too with tamil dubbed version 'Kanavu Vettai' :)

raghavendran
13th July 2010, 06:04 PM
Good, Inception is releasing in chennai this week :)
Whoa, now thats what you call great NEWS! You made my day saar!!even rajeev masand has tweeted saying the film challenges the audience to move an eyeball away from it...bravo...
thas wat he said :2thumbsup:

Bala (Karthik)
13th July 2010, 09:48 PM
Good, Inception is releasing in chennai this week :)
Whoa, now thats what you call great NEWS! You made my day saar!!even rajeev masand has tweeted saying the film challenges the audience to move an eyeball away from it...bravo...
thas wat he said :2thumbsup:
:x

ajithfederer
14th July 2010, 12:08 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/video/2010/jul/13/inception-leonardo-dicaprio


Living the dream with the cast of Inception

Xan Brooks meets Leonardo DiCaprio and other stars of Christopher Nolan's psychological thriller to find out how they unravelled the mysteries of the year's brainiest blockbuster

raghavendran
14th July 2010, 08:16 AM
Good, Inception is releasing in chennai this week :)
Whoa, now thats what you call great NEWS! You made my day saar!!even rajeev masand has tweeted saying the film challenges the audience to move an eyeball away from it...bravo...
thas wat he said :2thumbsup:
:xille namme oorlayum oruthan paathuttan...adhan sonnen..mathapadi andhe aalukku mariyadhaiyellam kedayadhu :)

Nerd
14th July 2010, 07:36 PM
5 rotten reviews on RT already. TDK has a total of 18 rotten reviews. Anybody watching this on Thursday? I think there's a Wednesday midnight show as well. I might watch it Friday night.

kid-glove
14th July 2010, 08:01 PM
Friday night show here as well. :)

m_karthik
15th July 2010, 03:15 AM
Predict Inception opening weekend in
US&Canada as Domestic

40 - 60 Million
60 - 80 Million
80 - 100 Million
100 - 130 Million
130 - 160 Million
> 160 Million

Previous Records(3-Day Weekend)
TDK - 158.4
SpiderMan 3 - 151
New Moon - 142.9
POTC - Dead Man's Chest - 135.6
Iron Man 2 - 128.1


Also Opening Day including Midnight screening

20 - 30 Million
30 - 40 Million
40 - 50 Million
50 - 60 Million
60 - 73 Million
> 73 Million

Previous Records
New Moon - 72.7
Eclipse - 68.5
TDK - 67.1
Transformers 2 - 62
Spider Man 3 - 59

P_R
15th July 2010, 01:23 PM
kid-glove, what would be an example of "seeming more profound than it actually is".

Sid_316
15th July 2010, 05:14 PM
Friday night sathyam :D cant freakin wait! :D

kid-glove
15th July 2010, 07:36 PM
Ah, waited for your reply in Twitter. :)

kid-glove, what would be an example of "seeming more profound than it actually is".
I did admit to be equally guilty in the following tweet. Although it's more in line with Ebert's review. From all the reviews (both positive and negative) suggests very mechanical breakdown of 'dream' concept, and much subside(s) personal blarneys (http://www.mayyam.com/hub/viewtopic.php?p=2172292#2172292) of Nolan's work. The artifices (of repressed memory, magical illusion, and now <gulps> reality within dreams) aren't represented in profound medium-worthy manner (as I speculate in my largely rhetorical post :lol2:), but rather function as 'devices', effective 'artifacts' (and not 'gimmicks' that's conveniently charged against him) in a less nuanced manner. Nolan's USP is tightly-knit plot(s) and IMVHO, fails to delineate dense themes through the "human experience" (that likes of Bergman, Woody Allen ruminate with fitting characters, much unlike Nolan's Polarized world). Nolan doesn't actually enrich these 'artifacts', that might however make his films more 'watchable'. Still to make up for it, we get 'verbal exposition' in mechanical ways, the artifice of magic by Caine in The Prestige (here the whole editing pattern is to beat our head with it, the film is book-ended with over-expository epilogue), philosophical musing about memory by Pearce in Memento (again the ending, actually the 'beginning' of Johnny.G hunt presents Pearce's character to narrate his mindset and why his existence needs this), and quite possibly in Inception, the reality within each layers of 'dream' by Di Caprio to Ellen Page. But I will reserve all this negativity by saying that I derive pleasures just from the narratives of his films and effective dramatic construction. Perhaps if given revisit, all these films might reveal more.

And of course, still got to watch Inception first-hand, and confirm how Nolan brings out 'dreams' through visual paradigm, and if he's able to do it in interesting, profound manner..

kid-glove
15th July 2010, 07:50 PM
If some reviews seem to find Nolan falling short of cinematic vision of Kubrick and Hitchcock, I'm belittling the thematic and ruminative aspects in comparison to Bergman and Woody Allen. This isn't fair by any count. Especially because Nolan is doing different kind of films. But we live in a world of excess in both praise and disdain. :lol2:

complicateur
16th July 2010, 10:46 AM
pArthaach. Innoru thabaa pArkkaNum. pArkkalAm.

jinju
16th July 2010, 11:29 AM
pArthaach. Innoru thabaa pArkkaNum. pArkkalAm.

:clap:

elaboration please :D

ajaybaskar
16th July 2010, 11:44 AM
Booked for 7.15 pm show... :D

jinju
16th July 2010, 11:50 AM
Booked for 7.15 pm show... :D

so most of the hubbers 'first night' show itself :D ...iyaam 6:30'nga...

ajaybaskar
16th July 2010, 12:06 PM
In PVR they show english movies with subtitles..

P_R
16th July 2010, 12:08 PM
Still to make up for it, we get 'verbal exposition' in mechanical ways, the artifice of magic by Caine in The Prestige (here the whole editing pattern is to beat our head with it, the film is book-ended with over-expository epilogue),

Didn't get the 'editing pattern' part, but agree about the over-expository epilogue, which is what kinda put me off in the end. Plus, having guessed the twist ahead, was another issue. Its only of late that I am able to see that it is a much better film than my initial reaction suggested.


philosophical musing about memory by Pearce in Memento (again the ending, actually the 'beginning' of Johnny.G hunt presents Pearce's character to narrate his mindset and why his existence needs this),
Which I thought was not out of place.
Any attempt to visually suggest and leave it to be inferred would have been extremely risky. One of the most poignant moment is the v-o where Guy Pearce saying: he has no sense of time.

Normally, I would say, that is the kind of thing we should figure out by ourselve and poignate (!) about. But the 'feel' of the film is not moody and slow, one is always thinking/guessing and the dialogue is spoken in one of the few scenes that are like an oasis where the viewer can relax and catch up with his breath.

I thought it was extremely clever for the writer/director to recognize the need to pause the challenge a bit, give a line of dialogue that 'due to all the perma-alert frame of mind' the viewer may not have figured out by himself.

My ego resents being 'told' but it is true that I didn't figure it till I was told. :-) Now I can't think of that film except as the agony of a man who has 'no sense of time'.

That is the kind of understanding of the viewer and catering to him that I like about Nolan. I tend to like this immensely more than makers whose (presumable) stance is: "I make my movies, it is up to you to climb up and reward yourself."

kid-glove
16th July 2010, 12:43 PM
I tend to like this immensely more than makers whose (presumable) stance is: "I make my movies, it is up to you to climb up and reward yourself."
I'm just the opposite. If the film absolutely requires exposition, well and good. But a film like Memento would fare better IMO. Honestly, not a film that I look forward to revisit with its over elaboration. Despite its convoluted non-chronological narrative technique, the acting and events themselves 'pictures' his mindset while we're always emotionally manipulated by the dramatic construction through interactive dialogue and acting. For the most part, the v-o narration functions unfavorably, just as to spoon-feed Leonard's momentary pause and swift action - which brings out his 'motive' on its own - "I can't create new memories, I'll add faulty ones through snapshots with footnotes & tattoos, and perpetuate through this ridiculous existence."

Besides, the film plays out in reverse for good reason, it masks the derangement factor. The irony of playing end at first is that the audience are ambivalent about Leonard killing Teddy. And the whole narrative is to reassess how it panned out this way. Without memories, there's a loss of identity. The Man in the end is != Man in the beginning, or rather, there are various fragments of this man, mostly through his own misguidance. It brings out self-guilt in our part of Leonard's action(s), although he himself is uninhibited by this - that's where the poignancy resides. But when you keep hearing the v-o flesh out the motive (plus the musings about memory were pretentious enough), there's a presence of a 'singular' identity. That didn't sit well with me.

P_R
16th July 2010, 01:20 PM
plus the musings about memory were pretentious enough Aha ! Those were my fav. parts of the film.


I have to believe my actions still have meaning even if I can't remember them is a line that set the context for the movie. That elevated the movie from a thriller with a clever gimmick to something more ...er... deep


How can I heal if I can't feel timeIs the lines that made me sit up and take notice of Chris Nolan.


But when you keep hearing the v-o flesh out the motive (plus the musings about memory were pretentious enough), there's a presence of a 'singular' identity.
It felt like a single but 'troubled' identity, grappling with the problems of his non-singularity and being acutely and helplessly aware of it.

kid-glove
16th July 2010, 01:42 PM
Yeah, 'distorted' identity more like it. And maybe the word pretentious is too strong and disservicing it, perhaps one too much exposition that gave too much credence to his motives,

Nerd
16th July 2010, 07:29 PM
I dint expect this many negative reviews from the critics. Let me tone down my expectations :shaking:

P_R
16th July 2010, 07:32 PM
Compli, pArthAchulle, sattuputtunu review ezhudhunga.

littlemaster1982
16th July 2010, 07:41 PM
In PVR they show english movies with subtitles..

TS3-kku subs illaiye :huh:

ajaybaskar
16th July 2010, 10:17 PM
Inception is exceptional...

Thinking such a complex story itself is a difficult task. Bringing that on screen is something unimaginable. Making the audience sync with it calls for supreme intelligence and unmatched skills. Nolan has done all the 3 with finesse..

@Nerd,

Just forget those critics.. Go watch the movie and i am sure u'l be left speechless. Ungalukku puriyura maadhiri sollanumna, Avatarellam chumma jujoobi.... :wink:

Guys,

Empty your bladder before you step into the hall. If you leave the hall in the middle, you'l have to see the movie again.. :-)

Take a bow, Mr.Nolan and Mr. Zimmer.

jinju
16th July 2010, 10:43 PM
paathaachu...aga aga aga!!!

Mr. Nolan :notworthy: (ukkaanthum nadanthum 'thoongiyum :D ' yosippaangalo!)...having a revisit on sunday itself...


@ajay :clap: they played the subtitles here too...

@nerdji, expectations highaave irukkattum...am sure ur 'movie of the year' choice will change after watching this!

Siv.S
16th July 2010, 11:05 PM
Went to the theatre,didnt get the tickets :cry2:
Jinju :thumbsup:

ajaybaskar
17th July 2010, 12:02 AM
Jinju,

Good that theatres are now showing movies with subtitles. Much better than watching them dubbed in tamil... :-)

On the film front, neenga sonna maadhiri 'Eppadithaan yosikkaraangalo?'.

ilayapuyalvinodh_kumar
17th July 2010, 12:08 AM
'' The film has received positive reviews. Review aggregate Rotten Tomatoes reports that 85% of critics have given the film a positive review based on 141 reviews, with an average score of 8.2/10. The critical consensus is: Smart, innovative, and thrilling, Inception is that rare summer blockbuster that succeeds viscerally as well as intellectually. Review aggregate Metacritic assigned the film an average score of 76 out of 100 based on 37 reviews from mainstream critics. ''

For more info about film's release and reception visit Inception at wikipedia. Also Imdb has given a whooping 9.3 / 10 based on 5,123 votes. There is a review on Rediff.com which says the film is a sure fire blockbuster with 4 / 5 rating. Since i feel it would be a spoiler i won't post it here.

kid-glove
17th July 2010, 02:20 AM
Inception is a puzzle, rendered both predictably and unpredictably that you'd expect from a mind-tease, and overall registers and pans-out in a fashion that we come to expect from Nolan. I will still attest the film is never a bore and merits a revisit or two to figure out the deceit. While it might not reek of cinematic mastery, and Nolan much less a visionary, it's still the most entertaining film this year and Nolan proves to be a solid mainstream filmmaker in big budget Studio system.

Sid_316
17th July 2010, 02:26 AM
:notworthy:

kid-glove
17th July 2010, 02:32 AM
Acting-wise, nothing much to write about. Mostly solid turns, in particular the stylishly persuasive Levitt. Cotillard to my surprise wasn't effective enough. Perhaps it's the accent and familiarized gears that she is given to operate, like in Public Enemies.. Still perhaps it's such a character, a probe to figure out Cobb with their segment giving an allure to infamous Solyaris episode. Ummm...

Nerd
17th July 2010, 09:00 AM
Very very Nolan. Very very confusing. Works brilliantly even at the surface level. Will go deep with further viewings.

ajaybaskar
17th July 2010, 09:22 AM
Eppo paatheenga, bro?

ajaybaskar
17th July 2010, 10:11 AM
I still have'nt come out of the film.. From the morning, i've called 3,4 ppl, recommending this one..

Siv.S
17th July 2010, 10:13 AM
Very very Nolan. Very very confusing. Works brilliantly even at the surface level. Will go deep with further viewings.
hmmm..i watched Memento,The Prestige twice to understand it.. in memento's case even if i watch today i would find something which i didnt get on two viewing...

Having high expectation on Inception,innaikku eppadiyavathu paathidanum :(

sathya_1979
17th July 2010, 10:15 AM
I still have'nt come out of the film.. From the morning, i've called 3,4 ppl, recommending this one..
apdiye oru ticket book senju kodungggg.... :D

jinju
17th July 2010, 10:39 AM
I still have'nt come out of the film.. From the morning, i've called 3,4 ppl, recommending this one..

same peeling :? only thing is am troubling my wife with my discussions n thots about the 'idea' and she can't comprehend what am talkin' about but gives me a listen patiently! the only englees pilim she has watched in her life is Titanic :roll: !

waiting for k-g n co to let go here....everyone seems to be holding back...! c'mon k-g, elaborate writeup please, someone!

Sid_316
17th July 2010, 10:50 AM
Question :

Spoilers ahead


Did ellen page actually perform the inception on di caprio?? Did she make di caprio to believe his dream is his reality in the end?

^ There r some clues for this also .. like at yusuf's place he says pointing at the ppl who r sleeping saying these guys come here to be woken up from their dreams.They think their dreams r their reality

And also Di caprio asks ellen page to create mazes but not to show him i

it all fits doesnt it?

m_karthik
17th July 2010, 11:10 AM
hmmm..i watched Memento,The Prestige twice to understand it.. in memento's case even if i watch today i would find something which i didnt get on two viewing...

Having high expectation on Inception,innaikku eppadiyavathu paathidanum :(

There is a special DVD version which was arranged in the chronological order of scenes for Memento

m_karthik
17th July 2010, 11:13 AM
Namma idea va yaaravadhu thiriduvaangalo??
Appadinnu ninachikittae indha kadhaiya panni iruppar pola..

Watch this film alone.. Don't go with girlfriends or family especially..

I have to go again tomorrow.. :oops:

Poornima
17th July 2010, 11:18 AM
heady, addictive mind-bender :2thumbsup:
Nolan plays with you all through, right up to the last shot, and we wilfully give in. for me, it worked both as a well-mounted heist flick and a probing, maze-like, existential trip. like with all great films, I hope its popularity also spins into greater debate and, in turn, triggers delicious possibilities of what the film is and is not. I dream.

ajaybaskar
17th July 2010, 11:26 AM
Poornima,

Req u to put a spoiler alert.. :-)

Poornima
17th July 2010, 11:35 AM
Poornima,

Req u to put a spoiler alert.. :-)

spoiler-aye eduthitten :D

ajaybaskar
17th July 2010, 11:37 AM
Jinju,

I've already said we share a lot in common.. Now this one.. My wife hardly engages herself in any filmi discussions. She doesnt like such complex storylines too. Simplest of stories like Ratatouille or TS3 have always been her picks. But yesterday, to my shock, she was praising the movie a lot. In fact, she was able to follow the story more than what i managed. Incredible... Thats y i said Nolan has succeeded in sync'ing the audience to his thoughts..

ajaybaskar
17th July 2010, 11:40 AM
Thanx buddy... :-)

ajithfederer
17th July 2010, 12:08 PM
Question :

Spoilers ahead


No, There is no reason or motive for her to do such a plan. Her intention is only to carry out the inception on fischer successfully.

Did ellen page actually perform the inception on di caprio?? Did she make di caprio to believe his dream is his reality in the end?



^ There r some clues for this also .. like at yusuf's place he says pointing at the ppl who r sleeping saying these guys come here to be woken up from their dreams.They think their dreams r their reality

He asks her not to show him because his projections would be aware of the maze design and it would not be easy for him to get out quickly from the dream world if he intends to. In short to avoid problems from projections especially his wife Mal.

And also Di caprio asks ellen page to create mazes but not to show him i

it all fits doesnt it?

sathya_1979
17th July 2010, 12:10 PM
avvaLavu nalllaaavaa irukkooodhuuu ?

Sid_316
17th July 2010, 12:30 PM
avvaLavu nalllaaavaa irukkooodhuuu ?

Amam Rombaaaaaaaaaaaa

Sid_316
17th July 2010, 12:30 PM
Thanks feddy :)

sathya_1979
17th July 2010, 12:31 PM
Thanks Sid!
Kandippaa oru vaarathukkuLLa, office cut adichittavadhu paathudarEn :D

Sid_316
17th July 2010, 12:39 PM
Thanks Sid!
Kandippaa oru vaarathukkuLLa, office cut adichittavadhu paathudarEn :D


Yeah kandipa paarunga.. mudinja imax la irrundha paarunga.. am planning for a trip to hydreabad just to watch this in imax :P

Sid_316
17th July 2010, 12:39 PM
A quote from a critic : It makes 'The Matrix' look like a Dick & Jane book. :rotfl:

m_karthik
17th July 2010, 12:52 PM
A quote from a critic : It makes 'The Matrix' look like a Dick & Jane book. :rotfl:

Really makes a mockery of Matrix and Mission Impossible

ilayapuyalvinodh_kumar
17th July 2010, 01:12 PM
Namma idea va yaaravadhu thiriduvaangalo??
Appadinnu ninachikittae indha kadhaiya panni iruppar pola..

Watch this film alone.. don't go with family especially..

I have to go again tomorrow.. :oops:

:omg: I'm a sumaal boy aged 17... Can i see this film or is it for 18+ ??

Siv.S
17th July 2010, 01:13 PM
hmmm..i watched Memento,The Prestige twice to understand it.. in memento's case even if i watch today i would find something which i didnt get on two viewing...

Having high expectation on Inception,innaikku eppadiyavathu paathidanum :(

There is a special DVD version which was arranged in the chronological order of scenes for Memento
Will not be much thrilling if i see like that,the main aim is not to loss our memory :D

ajaybaskar
17th July 2010, 03:00 PM
IPVK,

Neenga ninakkura gilmavellam padathula kidayaadhu. Concentration miss ayidakoodathunra nallennathula avaru appadi solraaru..

ilayapuyalvinodh_kumar
17th July 2010, 04:43 PM
IPVK,

Neenga ninakkura gilmavellam padathula kidayaadhu. Concentration miss ayidakoodathunra nallennathula avaru appadi solraaru..
:P :wink: then i will see the movie soon...

great
17th July 2010, 08:39 PM
Typical Nolan stuff. Liked the movie. Would watch again.

Nerd
17th July 2010, 09:35 PM
Eppo paatheenga, bro?
Sorry bro. Nethu post pannittu udanE thoongittEn. 6:30 show here.

Still chewing on it. I felt some of the scenes were thrust upon just to confuse us. Software terms-la 'needless complexity' nu solvaanga. Also as k-g had observed the acting leaves a lot to be desired. Leo basically botched it up, IMO. This was one character which had ample scope for him to perform. Scorsese used him better. Ellen was awesome in Juno but she was underwhelming I thought. Anyway will watch again and confirm.

littlemaster1982
17th July 2010, 09:48 PM
I still don't know how much of the film I have understood. But the last shot was a stroke of genius :notworthy:

ajaybaskar
17th July 2010, 11:11 PM
The whole crowd yelled 'Ohhhhh' when i saw the movie.. :-)

Bala (Karthik)
17th July 2010, 11:28 PM
I felt some of the scenes were thrust upon just to confuse us. Software terms-la 'needless complexity' nu solvaanga.
Nolan-udaya signature-e adhu dhaane?

gurusaravanan
17th July 2010, 11:29 PM
saw d movie @ ags, wow wat a screenplay nolan u rocksss... level 1-2-3-4-5-1.......?????????? :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:
INCEPTION.... the new "BEGINNING" :victory: :victory: :victory:

gurusaravanan
17th July 2010, 11:33 PM
dark knight 8 nominations
2 oscars.. inception xpect more!!!!

gurusaravanan
17th July 2010, 11:34 PM
dark knight 8 nominations
2 oscars.. inception xpect more!!!!

kid-glove
17th July 2010, 11:41 PM
I felt some of the scenes were thrust upon just to confuse us. Software terms-la 'needless complexity' nu solvaanga.
Nolan-udaya signature-e adhu dhaane?
Yeah, 'puzzling' structural of Nolan's films is more of a 'tease' on us. Not as much a 'gimmick', but a clever device. They pan out for a primary purpose, that is to give it multiple interpretations on first viewing. And invites the audience to re-watch the film to fine tune their reading. And they're mostly plot level enhancements (giving it a 'convoluted' shape) and for character specificity, not serving too much to thematic richness, visual metaphors, and subtext.

kid-glove
17th July 2010, 11:54 PM
That said, I think there's a deceitful undercurrent of 'there you see it, there you don't' in Nolan's work. A combination of visual coda and minor ellipsis in his cuts & transitions.

kid-glove
17th July 2010, 11:56 PM
Question :

Spoilers ahead


Did ellen page actually perform the inception on di caprio?? Did she make di caprio to believe his dream is his reality in the end?

^ There r some clues for this also .. like at yusuf's place he says pointing at the ppl who r sleeping saying these guys come here to be woken up from their dreams.They think their dreams r their reality

And also Di caprio asks ellen page to create mazes but not to show him i

it all fits doesnt it?

Ha, As I said, I see it this way. Our chat session in Facebook would seem unstructured as it is. Will try to collate and post 'em in an organized manner.. :)

ilayapuyalvinodh_kumar
18th July 2010, 12:38 AM
The whole crowd yelled 'Ohhhhh' when i saw the movie.. :-)

Yaen intha thuyaram ??? :?:

Nerd
18th July 2010, 12:45 AM
I felt some of the scenes were thrust upon just to confuse us. Software terms-la 'needless complexity' nu solvaanga.
Nolan-udaya signature-e adhu dhaane?
Precisely thats why I said the film is very very Nolan. But those things did not flow seamlessly unlike Memento. Anyway may be I will change my opinion after a revisit.

P_R
18th July 2010, 01:41 AM
MakkaLE, indha padam evvaLo hype-aiyum thaangum.

Nolar - unga kaala konjam kaaminga :bow:

Bala (Karthik)
18th July 2010, 01:51 AM
MakkaLE, indha padam evvaLo hype-aiyum thaangum.

Nolar - unga kaala konjam kaaminga :bow:
http://hawkeyeview.blogspot.com/2010/07/inception-one-of-best-movies-ever.html (aff course didn't read the post/review... thalaippa vechu post panninen)

Bala (Karthik)
18th July 2010, 01:54 AM
And they're mostly plot level enhancements (giving it a 'convoluted' shape) and for character specificity, not serving too much to thematic richness, visual metaphors, and subtext.
Please elaborate. For me, "clever", "interesting", "gimmick" and "convoluted" resonate

ajaybaskar
18th July 2010, 09:34 AM
The whole crowd yelled 'Ohhhhh' when i saw the movie.. :-)

Yaen intha thuyaram ??? :?:

Thuyaram illa, Thambi.. Makkals reaction after seeing the last shot of the film..

Sid_316
18th July 2010, 10:12 AM
Question :

Spoilers ahead


Did ellen page actually perform the inception on di caprio?? Did she make di caprio to believe his dream is his reality in the end?

^ There r some clues for this also .. like at yusuf's place he says pointing at the ppl who r sleeping saying these guys come here to be woken up from their dreams.They think their dreams r their reality

And also Di caprio asks ellen page to create mazes but not to show him i

it all fits doesnt it?

Ha, As I said, I see it this way. Our chat session in Facebook would seem unstructured as it is. Will try to collate and post 'em in an organized manner.. :)

Looking forward :thumbsup:

littlemaster1982
18th July 2010, 12:13 PM
Spoiler warning: Audience Reaction To Inception's Ending

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Courtesy: Cinemablend.com

littlemaster1982
18th July 2010, 12:27 PM
One of the comments in youtube:

Same reaction in Japan too, then an applause and then a guy beside me said "Dang...I forgot to eat my popcorn."

:lol:

kid-glove
18th July 2010, 12:51 PM
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And they're mostly plot level enhancements (giving it a 'convoluted' shape) and for character specificity, not serving too much to thematic richness, visual metaphors, and subtext.
Please elaborate. For me, "clever", "interesting", "gimmick" and "convoluted" resonate
There's a difference between a device and a gimmick. The former is of course clever and interesting while the latter is annoying. What Nolan opts here, three or four levels of dreamshare, the complexity is a "device" and not a gimmick.

I would distinguish a “device” from a “gimmick.” A device is a tool - it could be editing pattern (non-chronological pattern) or the concept it self like several "convoluted" levels of Dreamshare (specific traits of Anterograde amnesia in Memento, rational explanation for Magical illusion in The Prestige) – it grabs our attention and holds us to it. The device turns into a "gimmick" if it outstrips the purview of the character and story and is a needless 'bait', and a parlor trick to gloss over poor writing. A Device registers and compounds the psychological resonance of what the audience sees & feels - and gives a coherent 'shape' overall, A gimmick is just an 'excuse'to sway the audience. I personally believe Nolan opts for complexity in levels of dreamshare as a "device" that advances the plot and deepens the psychological resonance of specific characters, Cobb and Fischer Jr, before implanting. And after 'Inception', both the characters are unaware, in Cobb's case (we, the audience, always with him, are also equally unsure), his specific 'curing'. Saying more, would spoil the fun if you haven't watched it. So for both these characters, the device, dream-within-dream-within-dream, functions specifically. Doesn't cut across as needless gimmick. Perhaps more of a mild 'tease' in its clever usage.

rangan_08
18th July 2010, 12:53 PM
Some one said in one of the reviews, " Kubrick would have felt very proud...". That's true. For film lovers who have been Following Nolan's track record, his 7th wonder just turns out to be a mind boggling, amazing experience.

Nolan, with all his brilliance, arrogance, intellectual pride, confidence and of course with little bit of ego :) has thrown up an open challenge to the audience and daringly says, " Catch me if you can". A roller-coaster hell of a ride is guaranteed for anyone who catches up with his dreams. It's definitely not a film to be watched in a casual mood. If you understand and get along with the film in the first 15 minutes, you are saved, otherwise you will be "kicked" out mercilessly.

This is undoubtedly Nolan's top notch work. But one thing, most of the audience who came with that usual expectation to watch an action packed, graphic oriented ordinary Hollywood flick were greatly disappointed (come on man, I'm supposed to be a film buff :D )

For me, I should say that Matrix served as a fantastic base to understand and enjoy this work of genius. Thanks to the Wachowski bro's (whatever happened to them??)

But unlike Matrix, the entire plot itself is not so fresh. We have the usual hero - villain stuff, the villain threatening to destroy the hero's family and the reluctant designer later making up her mind to join the team etc., are all quite regular themes. But, it's the overall idea and the tenacity with which Nolan has constructed this mind game is all that matters.

In Inception, as one scene after another (or dreams, rather) unfolds, it becomes a fantastic experience. And, towards the denouement, Nolan deftly wraps up one dream after another (or scenes, rather) and gives a perfect finish, something similar to his own Memento formula. Hats off !! :clap:

If you succeed in following up the dream sequences one by one, starting from the aeroplane, the van, the building, the hotel, the polar region, Cobb's dream land etc., then you will begin to respect and revere his brilliance and hard work.

P.S. :- Just to make sure, I suggest that you take a totem alongwith you ( a bambaram is highly recommended :) ).

Cobb : Thank God! I've managed to plant this wonderful idea of writing this beautiful, insightful (!???) review in rangan's mind which will fetch him accolades in the hub circle.

Nolan & other hubbers : :banghead: :argh:


rangan's wife : yenga, ezhundiringa. Sundayana pagal kanavu kanradhe unga velaya pochu. Endhirichi sapida vanga.

rangan : :roll: :confused2: :fatigue: adhukulla mathiyanam ayidicha ? Evening Inception-nu oru padam poga poren. Neeyum variya ?

kid-glove
18th July 2010, 01:05 PM
Question :

Spoilers ahead


Did ellen page actually perform the inception on di caprio?? Did she make di caprio to believe his dream is his reality in the end?

^ There r some clues for this also .. like at yusuf's place he says pointing at the ppl who r sleeping saying these guys come here to be woken up from their dreams.They think their dreams r their reality

And also Di caprio asks ellen page to create mazes but not to show him i

it all fits doesnt it?

Ha, As I said, I see it this way. Our chat session in Facebook would seem unstructured as it is. Will try to collate and post 'em in an organized manner.. :)

Looking forward :thumbsup:

No chat history in Facebook :?

raghavendran
18th July 2010, 02:25 PM
ennakku expectation thaange mudiyale..paathe aaganum...

P_R
18th July 2010, 07:08 PM
Still figuring some parts out, in the meanwhile, enakkoru sandhEgamNNE

1) Cobb stays back in Limbo to search and meet Saito. Isn't Limbo populated only by projections in Cobb's subconscious before he got into Limbo. I for one expected it would be the 'same' world as the one Mal and Cobb had built when they lived there for 50 years. How come Saito is there?

2) Assuming Saito is somehow there, how come he has aged several times more than Cobb?

3) When the van drives off the bridge it is the 1st kick in Level 1. But at that time there is NO kick in Level 2 (Hotel). So it is understandable that Cobbs, Eams, Ariadne and Fischer are not kicked out of Level 3 (Snowy place). However Arthur himself is only in Level 2 (Hotel) and should have been woken up, right ? Why does he too continue in sleep till they hit the water?

jinju
18th July 2010, 07:15 PM
Still figuring some parts out, in the meanwhile, enakkoru sandhEgamNNE

1) Cobb stays back in Limbo to search and meet Saito. Isn't Limbo populated only by projections in Cobb's subconscious before he got into Limbo. I for one expected it would be the 'same' world as the one Mal and Cobb had built when they lived there for 50 years. How come Saito is there?

2) Assuming Saito is somehow there, how come he has aged several times more than Cobb?

3) When the van drives off the bridge it is the 1st kick in Level 1. But at that time there is NO kick in Level 2 (Hotel). So it is understandable that Cobbs, Eams, Ariadne and Fischer are not kicked out of Level 3 (Snowy place). However Arthur himself is only in Level 2 (Hotel) and should have been woken up, right ? Why does he too continue in sleep till they hit the water?

P-R, regarding 2), i had the same doubt as u...but then Saito is wounded right from level 1 and dies in the level 3 where as Cobb does so at a latter level...maybe that explains the degeneration of Saito compared to Cobb....

sathya_1979
18th July 2010, 07:32 PM
Wikipedia la kadhai padikkaama enakku kandippa Padam puriya pOradhu illai.

P_R
18th July 2010, 07:36 PM
Wikipedia la kadhai padikkaama enakku kandippa Padam puriya pOradhu illai.

Sathya, actually it is NOT that complicated.
In fact one of the legitimate charges that can be laid on Nolan is that he sometimes explains a little too much in dialogue. You can sense that he is anxious that the film be understood. He pretty much carries the audience along.

dhairiyamA padam paarunga :-)

sathya_1979
18th July 2010, 07:39 PM
Wikipedia la kadhai padikkaama enakku kandippa Padam puriya pOradhu illai.

Sathya, actually it is NOT that complicated.
In fact one of the legitimate charges that can be laid on Nolan is that he sometimes explains a little too much in dialogue. You can sense that he is anxious that the film be understood. He pretty much carries the audience along.

dhairiyamA padam paarunga :-)
Thank you! Office la oru naalu friends paakkaNumnu sollitrukkaanga. Next week kandippaa paappEn :D

kid-glove
18th July 2010, 08:38 PM
Still figuring some parts out, in the meanwhile, enakkoru sandhEgamNNE

1) Cobb stays back in Limbo to search and meet Saito. Isn't Limbo populated only by projections in Cobb's subconscious before he got into Limbo. I for one expected it would be the 'same' world as the one Mal and Cobb had built when they lived there for 50 years. How come Saito is there?

2) Assuming Saito is somehow there, how come he has aged several times more than Cobb?



1) is simple right. Cobb is thrown into Limbo only when the van hits the water in Level1, as he is drowned here. Saito is already in Limbo because he over-bleeds to death because of fatal wounds, and is therefore considerably aged (2). Since Cobb's body in level 1 is drowned, he imagines himself to be washed off to shores in Limbo.

Limbo is different from Mal-Cobb. It's a "collective" dreamscape. Some of Cobb's is thrown around. But Saito's architecture is distinctly 'oriental' - presumably built/imagined it to his taste and the guards are his projections.

Notice how he eats and is seated in the table in a very similar posture to the one in the very first 'audition' dreamshare. The very first one we encounter, where again Mal interrupts their heist by shooting the point man, Arthur - that one is molded with Saito's dream as the "base" and has Cobb playing agent "Charles" to get onto Saito's good side. But since Saito is well trained in dreamshare, he suspects Cobb and Arthur. Then Mal disrupts the plan. From there, they jump to third world country in some revolution/rebellion, with Nash's (who turns out to be a traitor, ratting out everybody) dream as base, but they're all deluding Saito as if it's his - which ultimately fails when Saito makes out from material of carpet (therefore sort of a totem to figure out some other dream he is in) and eventually, they all get 'kicked' back to the train.

And talking of Limbo, only two are thrown into this state. Saito - the architecture shows. Then Cobb - the kids are his projections here. As 'shores' has resonance to his place. We even see in one sequence, Mal and Cobb making sand moulds down in the beach (in 'reality' one assumes).


3) When the van drives off the bridge it is the 1st kick in Level 1. But at that time there is NO kick in Level 2 (Hotel). So it is understandable that Cobbs, Eams, Ariadne and Fischer are not kicked out of Level 3 (Snowy place). However Arthur himself is only in Level 2 (Hotel) and should have been woken up, right ? Why does he too continue in sleep till they hit the water?
Level 1 - Van down the bridge. Is the Kick.
Level 2 - Hotel level - the 'falling' down motion plus explosion of Lift functions as the kick.
Level 3 - Explosion in snowy Eastern European place. Pulling the whole concrete down..
Level 4. Is the level where Cobb is absolved of Mal. That level has specific dreamshare as the 'base', the architectural dreamscape that Cobb had built with Mal (and they have none other constructed) - Adriane joins with Cobb and Fischer (almost dead, but in a 'transient' state). Fischer is in deep sleep/coma in this level. And is kicked down.

Adriane deliberately falls down here. Kicks Fischer down the building. And they both join level 3 at the right time. Since the 'kicks' are synced with Level 2, and Level 1 - they are all pushed to Level 1. And the only two, who aren't 'kicked' back are Cobb and Saito.

ajaybaskar
18th July 2010, 08:52 PM
K_G,

Now Nolan has hacked ur id.. Yes, U can take this as a compliment as well.. :-)

sathya_1979
18th July 2010, 09:00 PM
K_G,

Now Nolan has hacked ur id.. Yes, U can take this as a compliment as well.. :-)
Ivar padatha specialla slow motionla repeat senju 25 vaatti paathirukkaNum. illEnna :notworthy: for his observation, memory and narrative skills.

ajaybaskar
18th July 2010, 09:01 PM
Arthur wakes up only when the van hits the water. During the process of the Van's falling down, Arthur experiences a non-gravitational atmosphere.

P_R
18th July 2010, 09:20 PM
Cobb is thrown into Limbo only when the van hits the water in Level1, as he is drowned here. Saito is already in Limbo because he over-bleeds to death because of fatal wounds, and is therefore considerably aged

Ah...ok. Makes sense.


On, 3 , I still didn't get why Arthur was not kicked back to Level 1 when the Van hit the bridge. He was the ONLY person in Level 2 at that time. Isn't it ?

P_R
18th July 2010, 09:21 PM
K_G,
\Now Nolan has hacked ur id.. Yes, U can take this as a compliment as well.. :-)

k_g, are you taking this as a compliment? ;-)

P_R
18th July 2010, 09:25 PM
Arthur wakes up only when the van hits the water. During the process of the Van's falling down, Arthur experiences a non-gravitational atmosphere.
adhaan yEn 'ngREn.

He should have woken up, right ?
It is understandable that the others did not wake up, as they were one level below (in Level 3). Arthur was only in Level 2.

kid-glove
18th July 2010, 09:35 PM
K_G,
\Now Nolan has hacked ur id.. Yes, U can take this as a compliment as well.. :-)

k_g, are you taking this as a compliment? ;-)

Nolan would be cringing for sure. :lol:

Thanks Ajay & Sathya. As always, you're too kind. :wink:

Can't vouch that this is 100% true. Need to watch the film again.

Sanjeevi
18th July 2010, 09:44 PM
Innovative thinking :2thumbsup: Brilliant try :clap: and superb output :notworthy: with awesome shots :thumbsup:

sathya_1979
18th July 2010, 09:52 PM
ellaarum serndhu enakku tension jaasthi panniteenga! Padam naan ippove paarthaagaNume. Ippo naan enna seiyya :mad:

kid-glove
18th July 2010, 09:57 PM
Arthur wakes up only when the van hits the water. During the process of the Van's falling down, Arthur experiences a non-gravitational atmosphere.
adhaan yEn 'ngREn.

He should have woken up, right ?
It is understandable that the others did not wake up, as they were one level below (in Level 3). Arthur was only in Level 2.

What happens in Level 1 would impact Level 2 and Level 3 so on, but they are still not strong enough to 'kick' 'em back. That's why we see 'tumbling' effect first in Level 2 when the van hits the bridge in Level 1. But not a 'kick'. The 'kick' needs a bit more magnitude, one presumes.

They sync with different music tracks to know specific time to hit the breakpoint. Point man, Arthur updates 'em, and keeps the clock, so to speak)

Usually a 'descent' down motion gives the 'kick' to wake 'em up in every state. This is true of dreams in general.

Of course, this is why Fischer is kicked down in Level 4 and Adriane falls down deliberately - to push up to higher level (where again the Turkish monument in Level 3 is pulled down and Lift in Level 2 is pulled down plus the van hitting the water in full descent - kicking all the way down to Level 1.

And the pivotal suicide scene, Mal, assuming the perceived 'reality' to be a 'dream', falls down the building to jump back to 'actual' reality (Which we assume doesn't exist as we don't follow Mal's POV). And one possible suggestion is it's Cobb who is deluding this state to be 'reality'. And the audience are convinced enough of this 'reality' as we are following his POV. But we can't be so sure. This troubles me well enough to watch the film again. :)

Sanjeevi
18th July 2010, 10:00 PM
Three things (ideas) I liked most in this film

1) the time difference
2) dream nesting and hence
3) the multiplying time difference

and the fourth I liked is the two kids and the hero can not see them in his dream and in climax...

btw namma murugadass 7aam Arivu itha vachu than edukkurarunu pesikiduranga :lol: like Gajini.

ajaybaskar
18th July 2010, 10:29 PM
If Murugadoss was to copy 'Inception' then he should've probably hired a dream stealer and extracted the idea from Nolan. Doesnt make sense..

ajaybaskar
18th July 2010, 10:37 PM
P_R,

I am not getting your point. Fischer initiates the dream. Enter first level. Cobb, Adraine, Arthur, Eames, Yousuf, Saito kidnap Fischer and travel in a cab. Now Arthur initiates the dream. Enter 2nd level. All go to the hotel room and so on..

In Arthur's case, the fall is not the kick but splash of water is the kick. If he was the first to initiate the dream, a fall itself would've served as a kick. But here he is the 2nd.

Nerd
18th July 2010, 10:50 PM
There's plenty of answers/discussions in the imdb forums. One needs patience to seep through the spam and find the right posts. I don't hve it.

In the theater I watched there was hardly any response for the climax. I was impressed though. I still can not forget multiple calls of WTF after the credits started rolling in NCFOM.

Digression(!): Revisited Following yesterday. Adhula allAmE puriyudhu without any help. And it also has some stupid visual cues like the last shot in which *SPOILER* Cobb disappears into the crowd :lol: Nevertheless an excellent film, very well written.

P_R
18th July 2010, 11:06 PM
That's why we see 'tumbling' effect first in Level 2 when the van hits the bridge in Level 1. But not a 'kick'. The 'kick' needs a bit more magnitude, one presumes. I thought so too. But was wondering if this was mentioned somewhere (given that pretty much everything was mentioned :-)) and I managed to miss it.



In Arthur's case, the fall is not the kick but splash of water is the kick. If he was the first to initiate the dream, a fall itself would've served as a kick. But here he is the 2nd.
No. The 'reality' is the flight. Only a kick there will wake up Fischer.
In Level 1 the dream is initiated by Arthur. So a 'kick' there should wake him up and pull him back from Level 2 (the hotel).

But I guess the breaking of the bridge is not strong enough and that is they are woken up only when they hit the water. I was just wondering if I managed to miss some dialogue.

P_R
18th July 2010, 11:09 PM
I still can not forget multiple calls of WTF after the credits started rolling in NCFOM. :lol: Cracks me up each time I hear that. I remain annoyed.

Some parts Nolan overexplains and makes convenient conversation (people talking too much or surface-y in first meetings), that didn't sit well with me. But overall highly excusable.

ajaybaskar
18th July 2010, 11:10 PM
Does the music has anything to do with Arthur's waking up? I forgot that one...

Nerd
18th July 2010, 11:26 PM
Some parts Nolan overexplains and makes convenient conversation (people talking too much or surface-y in first meetings), that didn't sit well with me. But overall highly excusable.
Yeah. The multiple levels and the sedatives were explained 2-3 times at least. So andha parts ellaam fairly well understood but first 15 mins dhaan suththamaa puriyalai.. Where did the dream start, the purpose of it, the twist (audition) etc.. Should watch again.

P_R
18th July 2010, 11:29 PM
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K_G,
\Now Nolan has hacked ur id.. Yes, U can take this as a compliment as well.. :-)

k_g, are you taking this as a compliment? ;-)

Nolan would be cringing for sure. :lol:

I meant in the context of our discussions about 'intention'. Was wondering if 'being Nolan' would be a 'compliment' you'd inclined to think as the ultimate. :-)

I just read Satish Naidu's (http://movie-place.blogspot.com/2010/07/inception-movie-review.html) review, where he kinda says, the film stops short of being great because it leaves very little room for the individual to bring his own imagination to the table to enrich his viewing experience.

Many of the sentences in the review struck me as very true and seemed to inform me better about why I like what I like.


the ending frame has every member of every audience in every part of the world unite, having the exact same thought, and wanting the exact same outcome, and wanting it most desperately. That, dear reader, is audience manipulation of the highest kind, the evidence that we are witnessing a craftsman, an illusionist the likes of which cinema has probably never witnessed.
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What bothers me is what have I felt and experienced that my neighbor didn’t. And if the answer to that is nothing, which it increasingly seems is the case, then does that make Inception a lesser film? Or a greater one? I ask you.
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complicateur
18th July 2010, 11:42 PM
P_R,
Regarding the mechanics of the kick - It must be delivered in the level above the dream level. For example - One doesn't wake up from a dream when dunked water is splashed on one in the dream. One wakes up when water wakes up when water is splashed on one in reality. In fact the very first test that Saito sets up uses the very same example. Cobb is dunked in a tub of water in the riotous city (Lukas Haas's first level dream) and he wakes up from the second level which is Saito's oriental Geisha house dream.
So the inverse should imply that the first kick should happen in the hotel and should've been initiated by Arthur. But then that doesn't explain how the time suddenly condensed from a week to 60 minutes. So I am still slightly confused.

Ajay,
Consider the music as a counter. An end of a movement indicates an end of a loop in each dream. Now what would be interesting (and I cant remember this coz I was sufficiently drunk while watching the film) is to see if in the background score shifts time at each level of the dream.

Where I am hitting a wall is how Fischer is made to believe something through Eames' dream level? What were the mazes that Ariadne constructed? I guess I will need to watch again. Hopefully rum-less this time.

kid-glove
19th July 2010, 01:53 AM
I agree P_R. I did reveal my disappointments to Sid_316 (in private) about the ending. :)

Even If I need to watch the film again, this film makes one to debate what they saw. Not many big budget Hollywood film elicits such a response out of its audience. That I'm not sure I should post long posts on this film. I wrote one earlier but withdrew from posting. It's that long. :oops:

kid-glove
19th July 2010, 02:50 AM
Compiled my thoughts here (http://clapsandboos.com/reviews/inception-who-is-it-say-it-s-not-their-reality-sir-)..

Addendum:
Multiple interpretations of the ending is less rewarding..As I said, the fake-ending is more 'spiritual' than we might think. It's the only moment of unison for all the audience, that's of delight. The slow-mo and slow, upbeat music is very 'transient'. Not a lot of words are spoken here. Saito begins the plan for Inception with a rhetorical question, Are you ready to take a leap of faith..Older Saito, in Limbo, repeats this question too. And both is sandwiched in the film by Mal uttering a similar rhetoric before committing suicide (all this according to Cobb), to take the leap of faith in uniting with her, in death...So perhaps the quest here is 'spiritual', how ironically, the whole film is of "Corporate" espionage. Where individuality has no face value.. Yet this film has existential themes of redemption and spirituality.

raghavendran
19th July 2010, 08:25 AM
If Murugadoss was to copy 'Inception' then he should've probably hired a dream stealer and extracted the idea from Nolan. Doesnt make sense..ajay
reviews(overseas) supera irukku...pathe aaganum..btw unge signature :thumbsup:

ajaybaskar
19th July 2010, 09:13 AM
Compli,

Werent Fischer and Eames sharing the dream? In a shared dream, the initiator can make the other 'participants' dance to his tunes if i am not wrong.

Ariadne designs the platforms for each dream so that only the initiator and herself knows the solution of the maze. The platform should not be a replica of the reality is what Cobb instructs her. The hotel, the snow fields shudve been designed by Ariadne.

complicateur
19th July 2010, 10:53 AM
Yes. Makes sense about Ariadne. She is the architect and the dreamer populates with projections.

While people can share dreams, there probably has to be one primary dreamer. In the case of the snow fortress Eames is the decoy. Fischer (and apparently me) believes that it is Browning's (Eames in disguise) dream, but it is Fischer's dream - Hence the projection of Fischer Sr. on the bed etc...

OK. Still Kick and Limbo based qns to be understood. BTW its interesting that the 'mechanics' of the film are getting all the attention. At some point we'll have to get to the momentarily implied philosophical offshoots.

P_R
19th July 2010, 11:53 AM
k-g, still reading...meanwhile, Mombasa is in Kenya isn't it. Not Morocco.

kid-glove
19th July 2010, 12:21 PM
k-g, still reading...meanwhile, Mombasa is in Kenya isn't it. Not Morocco.
Yeah, but there are men of Arabic origin here, with more of Moroccon styled attire, right? Yussuf is of Arabic origin too.

Btw, I mix up Adriane and Ariadne, in both cases it's Ellen Page's character. Will correct now..

P_R
19th July 2010, 12:21 PM
My grouses are

1) It explains a little too much. Sometimes it feels like explaining jokes. Eg. The scene where the henchman falls of the Penrose steps has Arthur mention 'paradox' just in case we didn't understand. I groaned.

2) Some of the dialogues are incredible. People opening up in the first meetings. (this a complaint I have against many but I felt it too sharply hear).

Eg. The concept of inception brought up in one sentence. Arthur's reflex reaction is an explanation to Kaito (in reality to us) and Cobb moving from refusal to interest in under a minute upon Kaito's offer. That seemed very very simplistic to me. It seemed like Nolan was trying to introduce us to concepts, characters, motivations etc. a little too fast and it ended up looking unnatural - it happens in multiple places in the film.

3) Dialogues for effect.

Eg. the old man (presumably) working for Yusuf who corrects Kaito (they come here to sleep) by saying that they "come here to wake up" and proceeds to chastise him with arguably the most important line in the film (sic) "who are you to say it is not their reality?". Kaito didn't even question. And surely there is no 'need' for that man to speak that way in that scene, except Nolan wanted that line spoken.

These are the big things for me to swallow.

Apart from these I pretty much liked everything about the film including the showy parts like the dream big bazooka and Kaito's neat solution of buying the airline :lol:

I particularly liked how Nolan said 'everything'. Leave very little elbow room for alternative interpretations and suchlike. I have something to say, it is pretty difficult to say it, but I trust my craftsmanship enough to communicate this with precision. Don't bother crossing the bridge and meeting me midway etc. All I ask of you is your attention. Actually not even that. Don't bother, I will get your attention.That is MY job

kid-glove
19th July 2010, 12:34 PM
Yeah, Arthur calling it 'paradox', having well dressed Levitt and Page to kiss on couch (although functional), bringing out bazooka, etc seemed childish.

And another showy throw away reference is 'Pegasus' Apartments in Level 1. It's prominently displayed in one of the posters too..

P_R
19th July 2010, 12:59 PM
Yeah, Arthur calling it 'paradox', having well dressed Levitt and Page to kiss on couch (although functional), bringing out bazooka, etc seemed childish.

Wait...I want to distinguish the first from the others.

The first is, anxiety to be understood manifesting in a dialogue that the film could have done without. One wouldn't call these showy indulgences like one would label the others.

btw what Pegasus?

ilayapuyalvinodh_kumar
19th July 2010, 01:24 PM
RGV is saying something about Inception and Nolan in Twitter. Interested ppl can read them..

ajaybaskar
19th July 2010, 01:46 PM
Hope he is not remaking it in hindi...

jinju
19th July 2010, 01:53 PM
Hope he is not remaking it in hindi...

:lol: that would be the day!

but correctaa thaan solraaru rgv avarkal, 'with the biggest budgets they have, they make avatar and inception, and with the biggest budgets we have, we make blue and kambakht ishq" :D

appram 'we all third world, third class directors'-nellaam solraaru :oops:

ajaybaskar
19th July 2010, 01:58 PM
Oh.. Appo budget irundha avaru Avatar and Inception maadhiri padam eduthu kizhichiduvaarama? Before pointing the fingers on Blue and KI, he better shud look at his own Aag and Agyaat.

P_R
19th July 2010, 02:00 PM
I do not claim to tell a story as it ought to be told. I only claim to know how a story ought to be told - Mark Tuwain.

raghavendran
19th July 2010, 02:17 PM
Oh.. Appo budget irundha avaru Avatar and Inception maadhiri padam eduthu kizhichiduvaarama? Before pointing the fingers on Blue and KI, he better shud look at his own Aag and Agyaat. :yes: :lol: ...VAI MATTUM ILLENA IVANE ELLAM NAAYI KAVITTU POIDUM

P_R
19th July 2010, 02:49 PM
the non-triviality of choosing not to drink one's own bathwater was sufficiently profound for me
Not sure what you mean by "the non-triviality of choosing not to not to drink one's own bathwater"

The leap of faith.
Why can't you respect something you create? Why does the certainty of that seem less valuable than the uncertainties of 'reality'. In a world where one can can theoretically grant oneself immortality, where one can detail and tailor it to one's fine-ness (and not even Truman show like in being the hands of another, where the relationships are with straw men).

Does it come from one's lack of faith in one's abilities to play God well enough? What is it that we want if we don't the ability to get whatever we want?

Why does reality - a miserable, cruel place, where one is subject to chance - hold such a sway over us be picked again and again?

Cobb thinks Mal is wrong. Does he know for certain that what he believes to be reality is reality? Perhaps the objective observer, like you and me, yes. But to Cobb ? Even an infinitesemal probability that he may be wrong is sufficient to destabilize someone in such a position. It is impossible to imagine that he is "certain" that what he is going back to, the basis on which he is making the decisions, is the reality.

Someone like him cannot be certain. He will have to force certainty on himself. Through logic, through bulwarks like his children and what note. In essence his choice is unlikely to be as simple as a choice between one reality and the next. It is a choice between one belief and another.

He HAS to force himself to believe one. And he doesn't have to explain his choice to anyone.

Did the spinning top in the last frame (assuming it was on permaspin and wasn't going to die a moment after the frame closed) say that a cruel trick was pulled on him ? No, isn't it ?
At that level, by whatever logic he was driven, that was still a consistent decision to make.

Perhaps we will always have to make choices within our levels. Block out certain things and build our own realities. Believe in them wholeheartedly. We may still be wrong, but there is little we can do about it.

And so on....are the musings this film propels me on to.

kid-glove
19th July 2010, 06:40 PM
P_R,
"anxiety to be understood manifesting in a dialogue that the film could have done without"
Okay. I get that.

Still, they are all crowd pleasing blarneys to attract certain age-group - all three scenes got its applause after closing phrase "Paradox" or "it's worth trying" or "Dream big", etc..

Well, Pegasus is just a word with its own history, saw it being prominently displayed in posters and for a brief moment in the film. Thought it could be some code. I guess not..

ajithfederer
19th July 2010, 09:13 PM
1. The first 2-3 minutes when Leo(Cobb) was escorted by the Japanese soldiers to a very aged Saito(Watanabe) is the "Inception planting" dream to plant an idea on Fischer (Cilian Murphy). Nolan may have kept scene out of order to give an idea of limbo and why one can age so quickly in limbo state.


2. The dream when Leo, JG Levitt and Saito (when they look young) immediately after the above is the start of the (movie)story. Leo, Arthur and Nass(??) try to steal some information from Saito for Cobalt Engg, but unfortunately he was trained for this sort of a mind heist and it fails.




Some parts Nolan overexplains and makes convenient conversation (people talking too much or surface-y in first meetings), that didn't sit well with me. But overall highly excusable.
Yeah. The multiple levels and the sedatives were explained 2-3 times at least. So andha parts ellaam fairly well understood but first 15 mins dhaan suththamaa puriyalai.. Where did the dream start, the purpose of it, the twist (audition) etc.. Should watch again.

Nerd
20th July 2010, 02:18 AM
Thanks Feddy. I understood 1), but don't know how Saito managed to trick him as in 'You were only auditioning for me' to Cobb :? I have to admit that I was a little lethargic when the film started and I started concentrating only after Ellen's entry. But this was one of the very very rare occasions in which I did not look at my watch in a cinema hall and the film was about 2 hours and 30 mins long. Thoroughly arresting :bow:

ajaybaskar
20th July 2010, 09:52 AM
The dream, before Cobb retrieves the confidential info to the 'reality', collapses. This is a failure in itself. Apart from Saito's training, poor architecture designed by the then architect (Ariadne's predecessor) accounts for the failure. I dont remember if Saito had bought out that architect before the audition. This is why Saito praises Cobb for living upto his reputation but warns him to select a better team for the 'inception'.

Siv.S
20th July 2010, 10:14 AM
I Didn't understand few scenes,will read all the posts here and will watch the movie again..but the execution is awesome,mind-bending experience... Nolan :bow: :bow:

sathya_1979
20th July 2010, 08:34 PM
Booked for 10.05 PM show tomorrow! Bring on wednesday I say :evil:

ajaybaskar
20th July 2010, 08:57 PM
Why nobody has uttered a word abt the film's soundtrack?

kid-glove
21st July 2010, 10:45 AM
Why nobody has uttered a word abt the film's soundtrack?

IMO,

Zimmer tries his best to hold the pastiche together and gives emotional cues too. But, for all the greatness of elaborate orchestration, it's the minimal usage (almost zero) in the final shots, the "Top" whizzing down the table, that provides the most brilliant piece of cinema. Despite the deceit of it. That one scene proves Nolan's credentials in audio visual sense, but expected lot more rhythm, timing and patience in other sequences. However such minimalist usage of 'Top' in big budget grandscaleness is refreshing and ironic.

kid-glove
21st July 2010, 11:00 AM
Downloaded the soundtrack. Amazing on its own (on second time watching the film, I'm seeing why he's the one who binds every stage & makes it seem 'interwoven' so to speak) :clap:

ajaybaskar
21st July 2010, 11:23 AM
My pick is 'Mombasa' apart from the main theme.

kid-glove
21st July 2010, 12:08 PM
Compiled my thoughts here (http://clapsandboos.com/reviews/inception-who-is-it-say-it-s-not-their-reality-sir-)..

The genre reduces Cobb's moral fallibility to its favor. For all the espionage, the thief himself, Cobb, has no sense of 'reality' and perhaps his guilt is possibly repressed/thieved out of him. And to Nolan's favor, the catharsis of the film doesn't bog the viewer at all. The fake ending, which calls attention towards its ambiguity, gives it a positive tone. If for whatever reason it goes against his favor, he'd be 'aware'. This ending pleases Cobb and the audience, to keep 'em cocooned to such a 'state of reality' and sustain the self-contained dream. And for the first time, there's an unison of delight on all our part(s)..

Addendum:
Multiple interpretations of the ending is less rewarding..As I said, the fake-ending is more 'spiritual' than we might think. It's the only moment of unison for all the audience, that's of delight. The slow-mo and slow, upbeat music is very 'transient'. Not a lot of words are spoken here. Saito begins the plan for Inception with a rhetorical question, Are you ready to take a leap of faith..Older Saito, in Limbo, repeats this question too. And both is sandwiched in the film by Mal uttering a similar rhetoric before committing suicide (all this according to Cobb), to take the leap of faith in uniting with her, in death...So perhaps the quest here is 'spiritual', how ironically, the whole film is of "Corporate" espionage. Where individuality has no face value.. Yet this film has existential themes of redemption and spirituality.

On re-watch, one could find more currency in solipsist self-desires of the film. Characters are 'reflections' of one other, or in the film's own lexicon, projections in unconscious ways.

If not the recurrence of paternal sentiment, role reversal and 'dead ringer' registers are attempted - Saito and Cobb in particular.

In particular, they engage in duologue of completing each other's sentences, a repetition of their earlier conversation. It seems somewhat 'cyclic' feeling true of Limbo itself. That it serves to remind Saito of his association with Cobb is one thing. But especially how the key de facto motives are,
a) To take Leap of faith
b) Not to die an Old Man filled with regrets
It's a) (Saito belief in Cobb in Limbo and Cobb's belief in Saito in taking up Inception) that's imperative to service their causal imperviousness in short-circuiting b)

P_R
21st July 2010, 12:47 PM
In particular, they engage in duologue of completing each other's sentences, a repetition of their earlier conversation. It seems somewhat 'cyclic' feeling true of Limbo itself. That it serves to remind Saito of his association with Cobb is one thing. But especially how the key de facto motives are,
a) To take Leap of faith
b) Not to die an Old Man filled with regrets
It's a) (Saito belief in Cobb in Limbo and Cobb's belief in Saito in taking up Inception) that's imperative to service their causal imperviousness in short-circuiting b)

Very well put.

Regret is theoretically impossible in a world where one can build purely on one's will and consider those who populate as one's projections. When Cobb 'rejects' Mal, he says she is not his wife in all the richness of reality but a 'mere' projection. That seems to be his 'clincher' in rejecting her companionship in favor of 'reality'. But consider the richness of the reality is itself evanescent (as Mrs. Cotard famously observed: 'everybody disappoints'). So what then is lacking in such a seemingly desirable permanence? Does the inferiority stem solely from one's consciousness that this is not real? Isn't that itself something that one can, at best, be fairly certain about, particularly in relation to 'other realities' that are up on offer.

While every choice is motivated by one's aim to minimize regret, the only way-regret is avoided by most people is by blocking out thoughts about the 'what ifs'. When one considers with an open mind every possibility, it is virtually impossible to be satisfied with one's choices. Yet we choose. We have to. And it is our choice that makes what we choose a reality and what we leave behind a dream.

sathya_1979
22nd July 2010, 10:16 AM
saw it last night at bloody INOX :hammer: theateraa adhu? Naansense!
Movie was WOW! Vaaippillaamai. One gud thing for common people like me is they tried to explain concepts thru dialogues. Nolan :notworthy: kaalai kaattunga sir.

sathya_1979
22nd July 2010, 10:19 AM
bit too much info for me. I could see myself trying an inception on my own mind acting as separate entity, in dream during my sleep last night! Mental aayitta maadhuri oru feeling. Thala suththudhu.

kid-glove
22nd July 2010, 06:53 PM
In particular, they engage in duologue of completing each other's sentences, a repetition of their earlier conversation. It seems somewhat 'cyclic' feeling true of Limbo itself. That it serves to remind Saito of his association with Cobb is one thing. But especially how the key de facto motives are,
a) To take Leap of faith
b) Not to die an Old Man filled with regrets
It's a) (Saito belief in Cobb in Limbo and Cobb's belief in Saito in taking up Inception) that's imperative to service their causal imperviousness in short-circuiting b)

Very well put.

Regret is theoretically impossible in a world where one can build purely on one's will and consider those who populate as one's projections. When Cobb 'rejects' Mal, he says she is not his wife in all the richness of reality but a 'mere' projection. That seems to be his 'clincher' in rejecting her companionship in favor of 'reality'. But consider the richness of the reality is itself evanescent (as Mrs. Cotard famously observed: 'everybody disappoints'). So what then is lacking in such a seemingly desirable permanence? Does the inferiority stem solely from one's consciousness that this is not real? Isn't that itself something that one can, at best, be fairly certain about, particularly in relation to 'other realities' that are up on offer.

While every choice is motivated by one's aim to minimize regret, the only way-regret is avoided by most people is by blocking out thoughts about the 'what ifs'. When one considers with an open mind every possibility, it is virtually impossible to be satisfied with one's choices. Yet we choose. We have to. And it is our choice that makes what we choose a reality and what we leave behind a dream.

This is a typically fecund comment, P_R. There isn't much to disagree here. You've mused it well..

jinju
22nd July 2010, 08:13 PM
k-g/ajay, can someone provide me the link of the soundtrack? :roll:

sathya_1979
22nd July 2010, 09:08 PM
k-g/ajay, can someone provide me the link of the soundtrack? :roll:
Option-1: torrent download
Option-2: Share a dream space with Zimmer and extract the music notes from his brain

ajaybaskar
22nd July 2010, 09:31 PM
I downloaded via torrents.

kid-glove
23rd July 2010, 01:14 AM
I dwlded via torrents too. I listened to it again on the way back home. As is my case with Zimmer, the tracks wear down, unlike contemporaries like Newman (his association with Mendes), Giacchino (especially Up), Desplat (Host of French films, especially A Prophet, to his Hollywood ventures from Syriana to The Ghost writer) and Jon Brion's (the stuff he does for Kaufman and PT Anderson) to name few. :oops: This devolution of Zimmer is pretty similar to my experiences with Greenwood (There will be blood), Philip Glass and to some extent, Clint Mansell. That is to say, they exude a bit excessively than what the visuals warrants so as to let the BGM bind together as in case of Inception where we have different levels coalesced and linked. But on subsequent exposure, the effect is reduced. There are exceptions. For example, Zimmer's minimalistic work in "As Good as It Gets". This type of overbearing composition needs more precision in its nuances one feels. It's not such orchestration don't appeal to me. Likes of John Williams and Ilaiyaraja don't turn out to be 'recursive' and seem perennially inviting.

anbu_kathir
23rd July 2010, 10:10 AM
k-g/ajay, can someone provide me the link of the soundtrack? :roll:

Here you go.

http://d01.megashares.com/?d01=upUS43h

Not as impressive as the DVC or A&D though, which I adore :D.



Desplat (Host of French films, especially A Prophet, to his Hollywood ventures from Syriana to The Ghost writer)

Awesome soundtrack this !

kid-glove
23rd July 2010, 02:38 PM
Yes, Pity that I've only listened to Desplat's OST, without having watched the darn film. :sigh2: Dvd release date (3rd august) announce pannitanga. Can't wait for the rip..

anbu_kathir
23rd July 2010, 02:46 PM
Yes, Pity that I've only listened to Desplat's OST, without having watched the darn film. :sigh2: Dvd release date (3rd august) announce pannitanga. Can't wait for the rip..

Rip is out k-g. I have seen it :P :D. The OST is a perfect fit to the movie

kid-glove
23rd July 2010, 02:51 PM
Damn! When did it come out? Last time I check there were only fake ones in torrents. Please post the torrent you downloaded (if you can)..

anbu_kathir
23rd July 2010, 02:57 PM
Damn! When did it come out? Last time I check there were only fake ones in torrents. Please post the torrent you downloaded (if you can)..

Pmed..

sathya_1979
24th July 2010, 12:27 PM
Tried to explain the story line to one of my colleagues. Reply - "Machi, Video Game maadhiri yEdho try pannirukkaannu sollu". I was :shock:

kid-glove
24th July 2010, 12:43 PM
Why ':shock:' sathya?

sathya_1979
24th July 2010, 01:03 PM
Why ':shock:' sathya?
mEnakkettu oruthan mooLaiya kasakki ippidi oru padam edukkaraan, sattunu Video Game nu sollittaan en friend :lol:
Idhai vida comedy, ennoda colleague oda room matesa avan Swades kootittu pOi vandhaan. Padam mudinjadhum eppidi irukkunnu kEttadhum oruthan instant comment "Heroine Super da".

kid-glove
24th July 2010, 01:35 PM
No Sathya, I'm hinting at the condescension. Some of the console games provide its own dream-like aesthetic like Nolan's film (and his film is sparse in setting up emotional stakes and keeps their 'archs' literally exposited (by Cobb, an unreliable narrator) and taken for granted. That is to say, it never sets up the relationship of Cobb-Mal to let the audience to invest much into it, or divulge much into moral complexity - however, it's quite apparent from Nolan's other films where he deliberately manipulates his characters as well as us. But in this ellipsis, there's a tinge of 'superficiality' like in Console games). And believe it or not, modern console games bring their own philosophy and existential themes to the table. It's much more 'interactive' of course. But a little less visceral and visual as we play in bursts and not for a sustained 'singular' timeline, as in a film. And Games feel less real, and aren't as cinematic, powerful experience as it's screened on 35mm..

There are quite a many games where the character (especially so in open world, FPS's and role playing) is put into an unsolvable labyrinth, and the only way out isn't displacement within but to escape out of it. Teleporting in and out has been done in games too. And the loop-like structure has been adapted into games. Agreed that films like La Jetee, 12 Monkeys, etc provide the initial template..

sathya_1979
24th July 2010, 02:59 PM
Oh, gamesla ivLo matter irukkaa? I never had any experience with them. So, the ignorence.

Vivasaayi
24th July 2010, 03:44 PM
Oh, gamesla ivLo matter irukkaa? I never had any experience with them. So, the ignorence.

adhanalathan naan compter gamese velayadradhilla.....yosikka soldrainga :x

ajaybaskar
24th July 2010, 04:58 PM
Watched the movie again. Aduththa jenmamnu onnu irundha Nolankitta ADya seranum..

Dinesh84
24th July 2010, 05:39 PM
Watched this film today at FeeVeeyaaR..
Oh my.. wat a film..

am i still in dream :roll:

kid-glove
24th July 2010, 07:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVkQ0C4qDvM&feature=player_embedded

It seems to me that the final few moments might have a theme music that's many times slower than the main theme music (that's explained in the link as the track played at many times slower rate than Edith Piaf song "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien," - which translates to, "No, I have no regrets"). So perhaps it's clear that Cobb puts himself into a closed loop in Limbo as a man who'll never have regrets. Not that it'd make a whole lot of difference. But it's worth recording and playing the music played in final sequences at a faster rate.. :P

salaam_chennai
24th July 2010, 07:36 PM
The wait is over. Watched it today in IMAX big screen. Did not understand some scenes. Need to see one more time to get the movie completely. From whatever i understood, it was mindblowing.

Yet to read the discussions in this thread. going through it now.

anbu_kathir
25th July 2010, 10:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVkQ0C4qDvM&feature=player_embedded

It seems to me that the final few moments might have a theme music that's many times slower than the main theme music (that's explained in the link as the track played at many times slower rate than Edith Piaf song "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien," - which translates to, "No, I have no regrets"). So perhaps it's clear that Cobb puts himself into a closed loop in Limbo as a man who'll never have regrets. Not that it'd make a whole lot of difference. But it's worth recording and playing the music played in final sequences at a faster rate.. :P

Very interesting !

sathya_1979
25th July 2010, 03:15 PM
Watched BD Rip of Memento today (First Time, thanks LM for the source on HQ BD Rips).

Sema padam, could understand well despite me being skeptical at the start, due to my inexperience and knowledge level on movie analysis and understanding. Made my day.

Siv.S
25th July 2010, 03:37 PM
Watched BD Rip of Memento today (First Time, thanks LM for the source on HQ BD Rips).

Sema padam, could understand well despite me being skeptical at the start, due to my inexperience and knowledge level on movie analysis and understanding. Made my day.
True Masterpiece :bow: :bow:

hamid
25th July 2010, 11:51 PM
saw Inception today.. chanceless movie.. eppadithaan ippadiyellam yosikkiraangaoo :notworthy:

innum oru rendu moonu thadava download panni paarkanum...

m_karthik
26th July 2010, 06:09 AM
http://human3rror.com/the-name-dom-cobb-and-movie-inception/



It was only after the title "Architect"; was used a few times by the characters that it clicked: You see, "Dom" for me is related to DOM, which stands for Document Object Model. This is a software programming term that is most simply understood as a way of interacting with objects in web code (HTML, XHTML, XML, etc).
In other words, DOM is a way for things to talk together, interact, and is used to "create" relationships and interactivity, just like he (Leonardo Dicaprio) does in the movie and in the dream-states


Love it. I was seriously endeared to him because of his name. I wonder if Christopher Nolan did that on purpose?

VENKIRAJA
31st July 2010, 12:21 PM
Worth the hype.
As again, not worth the consensus on IMDb.
P.S: Kubrick references such as the Shining's maze, 2001's anti-gravity sequence :clap:

Somehow I was reminded of The Fountain, while watching this one. That makes them two (three!) worthy succesors, Aronofsky and the Nolans.

And, I found the screenplay sort of 'elementary' notwithstanding the masterclass of Memento or the intricate craftsmanship of TDK.

littlemaster1982
31st July 2010, 12:34 PM
Welcome back, Venki :D

VENKIRAJA
31st July 2010, 12:42 PM
Welcome back, Venki :D

;)
Thanks LM!

rangan_08
5th August 2010, 06:37 PM
Interesting review in tamil (http://charuonline.com/blog/?p=858)

rangan_08
9th August 2010, 06:52 PM
Of late, I was thinking about a tamil film that had ever captured the intricacies of human mind, dreams, sub-concious etc., Only one film came to my mind - Kudaikkul Mazhai. Great Conception, but ........ I lost the probability of finding a slot for itself in the AFI (Adyar Film Institute).

Well, what about Kadhal kondein ???

ilayapuyalvinodh_kumar
10th August 2010, 04:08 PM
There are totally 12 tracks from this film... May i know which track (name) is used In This Trailer (www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&warned=True&client=mv-google&xl=xl_blazer&hl=en-GB&xl=xl_blazer&v=66TuSJo4dZM) .. It's a BGM in the trailer...

Here are the tracks :

1) "Half Remembered Dream" |1:12

2) "We Built Our Own World" |1:55

3) "Dream Is Collapsing" |2:28

4) "Radical Notion" |3:43

5) "Old Souls" |7:44

6) "528491" |2:23

7) "Mombasa" |4:54

8) "One Simple Idea" |2:28

9) "Dream Within a Dream" |5:04

10) "Waiting for a Train" |9:30

11) "Paradox" |3:25

12) "Time" |4:35

ajaybaskar
10th August 2010, 04:16 PM
Dream is collapsing.

ilayapuyalvinodh_kumar
10th August 2010, 04:27 PM
No Ajay Brother... It's not Dream is Collapsing..though it is closely similar to what i asked it isn't that... Well :P . Just now i got the youtube video :P HERE IT IS (www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&warned=True&client=mv-google&xl=xl_blazer&hl=en-GB&xl=xl_blazer&v=0JGHI4TAC5U) !!! It's written '' Mind Heist '' ... But it's not in the track list... Thnx... Dream is collapsing is also nice...

ilayapuyalvinodh_kumar
10th August 2010, 04:33 PM
It's said that the scores from the final trailers were composed and performed by Zack Hemsey. And this '' Mind Heist '' was composed by Zack.. That's why they weren't included in the track list of Zimmer :P

ajaybaskar
10th August 2010, 05:05 PM
Oh.. I didnt see the youtube link. I saw a trailer with 'DIC' track playing...

venkkiram
16th August 2010, 08:01 AM
Inception பார்த்தாகிவிட்டது!

உருவாக்கம் என்றால் இதுதான் உச்சம்!

படத்தை பற்றிய பிரமிப்பு அடங்க குறைந்தது ஒரு மாசம் ஆகும் என நினைக்கிறேன்.

இப்படியொரு ரசிப்பு அனுபவத்தை தந்த நோலனுக்கு எப்படி நன்றியை சொல்வது? அழுத்தமாக கை கொடுக்கலாம்.. எங்கேனும் படைப்பின் விளம்பர போஸ்டர் ஒட்டக் கூட தயார்.

venkkiram
17th August 2010, 02:39 AM
கடந்த வார இறுதியை எப்படிக் கழித்தோம் என்ற வழக்கமான உரையாடலில் சக அலுவலரிடம் பேசியது..
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நான்: நான் Inception பார்த்தேன். ரொம்ப நல்லா இருந்திச்சி.
அவர்: உங்களுக்கு என்ன புரிஞ்சுது படத்துல?
நான்: ( மனசுக்குள்ளேயே பார்றா! நம்மல Test பன்றான் ! ) பார்க்கும் போது கொஞ்சம் புரிஞ்சுது . அப்புறம் Online-ல அந்தப் படத்தைப் பற்றிய சில கருத்துக்களை படித்தபின் மிச்சம் புரிஞ்சுது .
அவர்: சரி, படத்துல கடைசியா என்ன நடக்குதுன்னு உணர்ந்தீங்க?
நான்: Cobb நிஜ உலகத்துக்கு வந்துட்டார்.
அவர்: எனக்கு படம் முழுவதுமே கனவு தான்னு தோணுது. பம்பரம் நிற்காம சுழன்று கொண்டே இருக்குன்னு காட்டுறாரே நோலன்.
நான்: இருந்தாலும் ரெண்டு இடத்துல பம்பரம் கொஞ்சம் Wobble ஆகுது பார்த்தீங்களா?
அவர்: அப்புறம் ஏன் நோலன் பம்பரம் தானாக நின்றுபோவதை காட்டவில்லை?
நான்: படத்தை ரெண்டு விதமா எடுத்துக்கலாம்னு சொல்ல வர்றாரோ என்னவோ?
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venkkiram
17th August 2010, 08:41 AM
ஒரு எண்ணம் மற்றொருவரின் மனத்தில் விதைக்கப்படுதல் என்ற கலை Inception படைப்பில் மூன்று விதங்களில் நிகழ்வதாக உணர்கிறேன்.

1) Cobb மூலமாக Robert Fischer-க்கு...
2) Ariadne மூலமாக Cobb-க்கு...
3) Christopher Nolan மூலமாக நமக்கு...

ajaybaskar
17th August 2010, 04:41 PM
உருவாக்கம் என்றால் இதுதான் உச்சம்!



I second this...

venkkiram
17th August 2010, 07:55 PM
பழைய உரையாடல்கள்களை கிளறிப் படிக்கும் போது சுவாரஸ்யமாக இருந்தது.

And talking of Limbo, only two are thrown into this state. Saito - the architecture shows. Then Cobb - the kids are his projections here. As 'shores' has resonance to his place. We even see in one sequence, Mal and Cobb making sand moulds down in the beach (in 'reality' one assumes).
இந்த இருவர் மட்டுமா Limbo நிலைக்கு செல்கிறார்கள்? Fischer போகிறார். அப்புறம் Cobb-ஓடு சேர்ந்து Ariadne-ம் செல்கிறாள். ஆக Maal, Saito, Cobb, Fischer, Ariadne என ஐவரும் படத்தில் Limbo-விற்கு செல்கிறார்கள்.. சரிதானே?

kid-glove
17th August 2010, 08:38 PM
I don't think one could voluntarily enter Limbo, or there's no meaning for its very invention by Nolan. Or chuck it, maybe he screwed it up..

As the tone of this post might sound, I'm indifferent to all the levels than in as much what does it have to say, thematically, and in 'essence'. Is Nolan's idea - the scheme of the film - a resilient parasite?

ajaybaskar
17th August 2010, 08:47 PM
If somebody commits suicide in the dream generated with powerful sedatives, they can voluntarily enter the limbo i guess.

venkkiram
17th August 2010, 10:00 PM
I don't think one could voluntarily enter Limbo, or there's no meaning for its very invention by Nolan. Or chuck it, maybe he screwed it up..

As the tone of this post might sound, I'm indifferent to all the levels than in as much what does it have to say, thematically, and in 'essence'. Is Nolan's idea - the scheme of the film - a resilient parasite?

Fischer Limbo-க்கு செல்வது சுய விருப்பத்தோடு அல்ல. Mal அவரை சுட்டு விடுகிறாள். அதாவது Cobb-ன் ஆழ் மனது (Mal-ன் மூலம்) Fischer-ரை Limbo நிலைக்கு தள்ளிவிடுகிறது.

On the other side, அஜய் சொல்வது போல Cobb and Ariadne open the suitcase and lie down on the floor for going into limbo voluntarily.

This is what my opinion.

kid-glove
17th August 2010, 10:02 PM
I don't think one could voluntarily enter Limbo, or there's no meaning for its very invention by Nolan. Or chuck it, maybe he screwed it up..

As the tone of this post might sound, I'm indifferent to all the levels than in as much what does it have to say, thematically, and in 'essence'. Is Nolan's idea - the scheme of the film - a resilient parasite?

Fischer Limbo-க்கு செல்வது சுய விருப்பத்தோடு அல்ல. Mal அவரை சுட்டு விடுகிறாள். அதாவது Cobb-ன் ஆழ் மனது (Mal-ன் மூலம்) Fischer-ரை Limbo நிலைக்கு தள்ளிவிடுகிறது.

On the other side, அஜய் சொல்வது போல Cobb and Ariadne open the suitcase and lie down on the floor for going into limbo voluntarily.

This is what my opinion.

This is a bit vague and diminishes worth of 'Limbo' quite a bit..

Puliyan_Biryani
17th August 2010, 11:08 PM
This is a bit vague and diminishes worth of 'Limbo' quite a bit..
Exactly and somebody going into limbo was portrayed as a big mistake till then. If Cobb and Ariadne could do it and get Fischer out of Limbo then what is the big deal.

Maybe it was easy because Cobb knew exactly where to find Mal in Limbo. If somebody entered into limbo themselves, then it might be difficult for Cobb/Ariadne to find them. But Cobb was there with Mal before, so he knew how to get there.

How does that sound :think:

kid-glove
17th August 2010, 11:33 PM
It sounds right, but still diminishes the worth of Limbo with all the caution (stated quite a few times that will please Nolan-bashers I'm sure). And we are said Limbo is a dreamshare with its shared architectural scapes. And I think we only see familiar 'world' of Cobb-Mal in the presupposed Limbo that Ariadne and Cobb enter, not the former's or Fischer's (OTOH, the world we see at the end with Saito is a combination of Saito's oriental house up the cliffs plus Cobb's own memories of the 'beach' ( which features a lot, once with him and Mal making sand cakes, and also with the kids - and we see the kids behave in same deja-vu manner in this 'Limbo' state).

Sanjeevi
20th August 2010, 04:56 PM
http://www.jeyamohan.in/?p=7809

ajaybaskar
25th August 2010, 12:50 PM
[tscii:caf1343491]Reg the climax of inception, i found this in yahoo.

At ending, it wobbles --> REALITY.
In dreams Totem spins constantly & smooth, never wobbles.
If we listen carefully after the black out [not after the credits], there's a SOUND of the Totem WOBBLING n FALL.

Dileep Rao [Yusuf] interview:
"You know what, I'll just say this: Use your ears not your eyes."[/tscii:caf1343491]

P_R
27th October 2010, 08:15 PM
I yam essay attempt. (http://dagalti.blogspot.com/2010/10/1.html)

எழுதி முடிப்பேனான்னு தெரில.

kid-glove
27th October 2010, 09:55 PM
Kood!

Avadi to America
28th October 2010, 03:25 AM
weekend planning to revisit "Momento"

ajithfederer
5th November 2010, 09:51 AM
A bit of an old news but nevertheless
Batman -3 has been Titled as "The Dark Knight Rises". Happy that Tom Hardy has a role in it.

sathya_1979
21st November 2010, 07:46 PM
Downloaded BD Rip of Inception :redjump: :bluejump:
2 times over weekend :) Nolar :notworthy:

ajithfederer
24th November 2010, 04:49 AM
DVD/Blue ray is coming out on Dec7th here.

Downloaded BD Rip of Inception :redjump: :bluejump:
2 times over weekend :) Nolar :notworthy:

ajithfederer
29th December 2010, 10:12 AM
Watching the special features on Inception in Blue ray. The depth of research and the technical details involved in the stunt scenes is amazing. It has interviews from DiCaprio, Nolan and Emma Thomas but the real deal is the interview with his crew. Must watch for film Majors and budding film makers. In the days of action movies made in Computer terminals one must seriously applaud the man's penchance for his attempts to shoot live-realistic looking action.

IMO, Chris Nolan is the Most Important Living Director now.

P_R
29th December 2010, 11:58 AM
thEvaippattAlozhiya IMO ellAM use paNNaadheenga.

makkaL kalaignar Nolar vaazhgO!

The hypercriticized snowmobile action scene was something I enjoyed a lot. Pulsating 'mbAingaLE.

ajithfederer
31st January 2011, 05:36 AM
Watching the Dark Knight in TV.

Last one hour or so Adi mael adi, Idi mel idi. Kiristopharr Nolarr :bow:.

P_R
31st January 2011, 08:26 AM
Saw Following.
Good. avvaLavu dhaan.

Oru yengarukkE uriyE aarvakkOLaarula lightA complicatedA ezhudhirukkApla (thambi jonadhan illai pOla)

Memento lErndhE accound aarambikkalaam. thappillai.

kid-glove
30th November 2011, 06:34 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/bialasishaha/dkrempirescan1.jpg

ajaybaskar
30th November 2011, 06:35 PM
Who is this? Hardy?

kid-glove
30th November 2011, 06:35 PM
^Alavandhaan Kamal madhiri pose-a paaru

Another:

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/629/darkknightrisesbanetomh.jpg