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Hulkster
20th November 2009, 08:44 PM
Recently thalaivar has been delving strongly into jazz with albums like Madhiya Chennai and now Paa. He has been using them frequently as a synth accompaniment, a fusion with another genre like rock or totally a backing in a folk fashion even before this albums.

Can anyone name songs which uses jazz in some way(atleast the length of an interlude) of thalaivar cause i want to keep collections of them and perhaps intiate discussions on this topic. Preferrably the more unknown and perhaps yet to be analysed ones(excluding Mumbai Express).

One which i think was never really thought of that much is perhaps this glorious and rollicking tune - Ennada Ninaicha - AOKK (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs=%27SNGIRR0338%27)

Main genre being jazz
Ennadi Meenakshi - Ilamai Oonjaladugirathu
Day By Day - Honest Raj
Unnai Patri Sonaal - Mathiya Chennai
Mumbai Express(Almost all songs)
Niram pirithu - Time
Madhu - Intha Ulagil
Thanga Kili - Manam Virumbuthey Unnai
Kaa Kaa - Julie Ganapathy
Idhu Oru Nilaa Kaalam - Tik Tik Tik

Jazz as an accompaniment
Ennama Kannu - Mr Bharath
Unn Vaazhvey Oru Kathaiyaagalam - Mathiya Chennai
Mudhi Mudhi and all its versions - Paa
Cheeni Kum saxophone theme - Cheeni Kum
Engey Irundhai Isaiyey(Second interlude, Raja sung) - Ajantha
Pelli ki Mundhu Okasaari - Dharma Kshetram

Hulkster
20th November 2009, 08:53 PM
I am not sure if this fits in jazz but from the same movie another song, a rather sensuous one Unnalae Thookam - AOKK (http://www.thiraipaadal.com/tpplayer.asp?sngs=%27SNGIRR0341%27) The suspicious part is the interlude and the way the stanzas after the interludes are orchestrated. :?

tvsankar
20th November 2009, 09:19 PM
Hulkster,
Dono about Jaaz..

Tell me about Jaaz...

Apo dhanae kandu pidika mudiyum?

Sureshs65
21st November 2009, 07:32 AM
Hulk,

A song on which I wrote a blog post, which I think is jazz, especially the way the rhythm and the interludes work, is 'naa paruvam' from a Telugu movie 'Yugandhar'. This was probably released in 1978 or 1979. So Raja's brush with jazz goes a long way back.

Hulkster
21st November 2009, 07:57 AM
Yup and there are many songs where jazz plays like some sort of normal accompaniment where you can never guess them. Its this type of songs i am looking for. :D

csramasami
21st November 2009, 10:56 AM
Day By Day - film Honest Raj, Please listen. Absolute Bliss.

Sureshs65
21st November 2009, 10:04 PM
Hulk,

Check out the song in TFM Pick of the week thread, posted by Neel. A song titled 'yAr mAmanO'. Very short song with one interlude which is very jazzy. You can include this is your jazz list. As I have been saying Raja has been using jazz from late 70s itself. This song posted is a 1979 song

Hulkster
22nd November 2009, 08:01 AM
I think the best of the lot is ennadi meenakshi which itself was around 1977 or 1978. Thats the earlier thalaivar has delved into jazz as far as i know.

Lets keep this thread as the list is going to expand beyond infinity. :lol2:

jaaze
22nd November 2009, 09:49 AM
Hulkster,
Dono about Jaaz..

Tell me about Jaaz...

Apo dhanae kandu pidika mudiyum?neengaluma :shock: :yessir:

Hulkster
22nd November 2009, 10:14 AM
Hulkster,
Dono about Jaaz..

Tell me about Jaaz...

Apo dhanae kandu pidika mudiyum?

Yenakkey athu patri avalavu theriyaathu, but keithaal theriyum avalavu thaan :lol2: Saxophone usage jazzil rombo prominent.

tvsankar
22nd November 2009, 01:57 PM
Hulkster,
Dono about Jaaz..

Tell me about Jaaz...

Apo dhanae kandu pidika mudiyum?neengaluma :shock: :yessir:

jaaz,
enna ipadi solreenga.. enaku onum theriyadhu.
inga vandhu dhan ellam therinjukaren. (kathukalai... )

indha Jaaz matum therinjuka mudiyalai......

tvsankar
22nd November 2009, 01:59 PM
Hulkster,
Thanks for the reply.Neeengalae ipadi sonna
enna artham...... hmmm

saxophone usage .... sari.
apo

Mumbai Express - songs Jaaz a???

tvsankar
22nd November 2009, 02:06 PM
thanimaiyil yar ival - Azhagae Unnai Aaradhiakren

Hulkster
23rd November 2009, 07:42 AM
Hulkster,
Thanks for the reply.Neeengalae ipadi sonna
enna artham...... hmmm

saxophone usage .... sari.
apo

Mumbai Express - songs Jaaz a???

Mumbai Express :exactly: I think Thalaivar's most jazz centric album which really divided jazz itself into various sub genres. :clap:

tvsankar
23rd November 2009, 12:10 PM
THank you Hulkster....

wat about - Appapa thithikum mutham un mutham ???

vel
23rd November 2009, 04:58 PM
CSR, "day by day" was new to me - i am totally awestruck ! splendid song !!

raagas
23rd November 2009, 05:33 PM
There is a song called "Pelli ki Mundhu Okasaari" from Telugu film "Dharma Kshethram". It has lot of Jazz piano countermelodies, while the song has more of Swing rhythm.

Sureshs65
23rd November 2009, 05:51 PM
vel,

I agree with you. "Day by Day" is a revelation. Lovely song with lovely interludes.

kiru: You should check this song. Raja brings forward the standard techniques of jazz. Something we were discussing wrt 'Paa'.

Plum
23rd November 2009, 05:56 PM
Since I havent heard Day by Day, I was trying to put a tune on it, and figured that the this phrase "Day by Day" can easily fit the famous thumbi vaa phrase :-)

Sureshs65
23rd November 2009, 09:23 PM
Hulk,

Check out 'raakolam' from 'Enthe Suryaputriku'. Very jazzy song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aFQR7dcCLc&feature=player_embedded

csramasami
24th November 2009, 01:10 AM
Vel : Happy you could listen to Day By Day song, which I feel pure Jazz. :D

Plum : Regarding fitting this song into "Thumbi Vaa" Good one. I feel wordings of "Man-galyam Thandhu-na-nena.." fits excellently upto last word :lol:

tvsankar
24th November 2009, 06:56 PM
Niram pirithu parthen - Time - ?

Fliflo
25th November 2009, 05:03 AM
Excellent piece of Jazz in Tik Tik Tik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj87vdGGGbU

Hulkster
25th November 2009, 06:42 AM
Niram pirithu parthen - Time - ?

:exactly: I think one of the most famous and recent jazz songs of thalaivar that is often heard by us.

tvsankar
25th November 2009, 12:32 PM
Hulkster,
Thank you.. Enaku Jaaz kandu pidika therinjadha... :D

irir123
25th November 2009, 10:06 PM
Niram pirithu parthen - Time - ?

:exactly: I think one of the most famous and recent jazz songs of thalaivar that is often heard by us.

tats WALTZ n not jazz !!

Sanjeevi
25th November 2009, 11:02 PM
Appo Mella Oornthu Oornthu is also Waltz!

irir123
26th November 2009, 02:36 AM
sanjeevi - yes its kindof - but with IR, its not always straightforward this or that genre! even 'niram pirithhu' has some hiphop style second interlude n lots of synth usage u wont find in waltz, but the overall feel is waltz

Hulkster
26th November 2009, 06:48 AM
Niram pirithu parthen - Time - ?

:exactly: I think one of the most famous and recent jazz songs of thalaivar that is often heard by us.

tats WALTZ n not jazz !!

I thought it was jazz? Alot of jazz elements in that song. Perhaps a amalgation of both.