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Saamy
1st February 2007, 04:52 PM
some things in tamil cinema are just not encouraged. such unnecessary restrictions doesnot allow tamil cinema industry to make more better films than those being made now.. some silly reasons given are ,
family audience wont like , B and C audience wont enjoy... and more crap...

for example,no derailed is going to release as pachaikilimuthu charam here... this script demands some restrictions to be broken.. but will it be???
why do we need songs??
why do we need intro fight??
why do we need a kuthu dance before the climax???
whyyyyyyyyyyyy??????????

Saamy
1st February 2007, 05:44 PM
intha thread-la post panna restriction illainu ninaikkiren :cry:

leosimha
1st February 2007, 05:48 PM
Songs are needed so that the people can dream and enter into a fantasy world when seeing the song sequence...

intro fight is required for the MASS.....for the FANS....HARDCORE FANS.....

Item/Kuthu dance for the front benchers.....

if all these are present...then only a movie can become a hit...(producers/distributors/theatre owners think in this way..why even some actors think that if there are some 3 romantic songs, 1 senti song, 1 kuthu songs, 5 fights without any logic in the movie)....Prashanth's Chocolate became a hit only because of Mumtaz's Mala Mala....

leosimha
1st February 2007, 05:57 PM
It is not an unwanted restriction...but the producers/distributors are playing safe....

thimuru
1st February 2007, 05:58 PM
classic entertainers like devar mahan could be made!(it can be termed as a pakka classic )

they attract all audiences!

some others are aboorva sagodharargal,johnny,sathya etc!...all audience would like them!

Saamy
1st February 2007, 05:59 PM
Songs are needed so that the people can dream and enter into a fantasy world when seeing the song sequence...

intro fight is required for the MASS.....for the FANS....HARDCORE FANS.....

Item/Kuthu dance for the front benchers.....

if all these are present...then only a movie can become a hit...(producers/distributors/theatre owners think in this way..why even some actors think that if there are some 3 romantic songs, 1 senti song, 1 kuthu songs, 5 fights without any logic in the movie)....Prashanth's Chocolate became a hit only because of Mumtaz's Mala Mala.... i am not telling that there should be no songs in a masala movie.. but good movies are affected by these restrictions...

why should a movie like adaikkalam have an item number??

leosimha
1st February 2007, 06:00 PM
Songs are needed so that the people can dream and enter into a fantasy world when seeing the song sequence...

intro fight is required for the MASS.....for the FANS....HARDCORE FANS.....

Item/Kuthu dance for the front benchers.....

if all these are present...then only a movie can become a hit...(producers/distributors/theatre owners think in this way..why even some actors think that if there are some 3 romantic songs, 1 senti song, 1 kuthu songs, 5 fights without any logic in the movie)....Prashanth's Chocolate became a hit only because of Mumtaz's Mala Mala.... i am not telling that there should be no songs in a masala movie.. but good movies are affected by these restrictions...

why should a movie like adaikkalam have an item number??

is adaikalam a good movie....if so it should have done good...when did it release...and when did it kaana poachu....

thimuru
1st February 2007, 06:01 PM
they make film like biriyani!

leosimha
1st February 2007, 06:01 PM
saamy...true....good movies shouldn't entertain item numbers...but this is again to pull in the front benchers..so that they get enthused...

Saamy
1st February 2007, 06:04 PM
It is not an unwanted restriction...but the producers/distributors are playing safe....but not all masala movies become a hit.. only a few among them, makes profit... so how can they feel safe???

Saamy
1st February 2007, 06:06 PM
why there is a horny song in kaadhal???

selvakumar
1st February 2007, 06:20 PM
why there is a horny song in kaadhal???

Do u think that one was "horny" ! That was :x

Saamy
1st February 2007, 06:24 PM
why there is a horny song in kaadhal???

Do u think that one was "horny" ! That was :x intended to be.. but end result was vomitable..

ajaybaskar
1st February 2007, 06:35 PM
When u consider hollywood, even if a film fails at the BO, the producer wont be much affected coz their films have a market all over the world and when released worldwide, a film will escape in terms of financial losses. They can also insure their films, which is not there in indian films..

A tamil producer cant take risks like this. If a big budget film flops, he will be in dire straights. Eg: KT Kunjumoan, AM Rathnam. A lot more to point out. So they select the safest route, the commercial entertainers. However producers like shanker try to break the shackles now, which shud be welcomed.

thimuru
1st February 2007, 06:44 PM
yes ajay....but directors like shankar molagai araichufy producer!

leosimha
1st February 2007, 06:46 PM
why there is a horny song in kaadhal???

which song?

thinkfloyd
1st February 2007, 06:46 PM
why there is a horny song in kaadhal???
Why not? Enna kelvi idhu?

leosimha
1st February 2007, 06:48 PM
why there is a horny song in kaadhal???

which song?

ajaybaskar
1st February 2007, 07:12 PM
I think he refers to the Kiru..Kiruvena song

m_23_bayarea
1st February 2007, 08:01 PM
why do we need songs??
why do we need intro fight??
why do we need a kuthu dance before the climax???
whyyyyyyyyyyyy??????????


TO MAKE MORE MONEY! :lol:

ajithfederer
1st February 2007, 08:18 PM
Ithellam tamilnaatoda kalacharam paa :lol: :lol:

some things in tamil cinema are just not encouraged. such unnecessary restrictions doesnot allow tamil cinema industry to make more better films than those being made now.. some silly reasons given are ,
family audience wont like , B and C audience wont enjoy... and more crap...

for example,no derailed is going to release as pachaikilimuthu charam here... this script demands some restrictions to be broken.. but will it be???
why do we need songs??
why do we need intro fight??
why do we need a kuthu dance before the climax???
whyyyyyyyyyyyy??????????

VENKIRAJA
1st February 2007, 08:18 PM
SOME MORE.....
a twist bfore the interval

hero will not b shown at the first scene without built-up

some centimental opening

wives will be wasted

heroines are dolls

hero will be unemployed motly,if employed,will not work except in a
scene(sivakasi/thirupathi/all college heroes who wont study at all)

oru padam eduthavanellam a ........ filmnu podurathu

its a different storynnu interview aarambikkurathu

all roadsiders will dance according to the tune in unison with the lead

dream songs

flashbacks,in some cases flashbacks inside flashbacks

................

Saamy
1st February 2007, 09:29 PM
why do we need songs??
why do we need intro fight??
why do we need a kuthu dance before the climax???
whyyyyyyyyyyyy??????????


TO MAKE MORE MONEY! :lol: then why didnt baba, or aadhi make money??

m_23_bayarea
1st February 2007, 09:30 PM
why do we need songs??
why do we need intro fight??
why do we need a kuthu dance before the climax???
whyyyyyyyyyyyy??????????


TO MAKE MORE MONEY! :lol: then why didnt baba, or aadhi make money??

Cos they had all these extra fittings... But missed a very important aspect (soul) called STORY! I only can speak for BABA though ... :lol:

Nerd
1st February 2007, 09:31 PM
why do we need songs??
why do we need a kuthu dance before the climax???
whyyyyyyyyyyyy??????????

thuNai nadigargaL sangam-nu onnu irukku. There are lots of people who make a living out of these songs as side-dancers. avunga ellAm indha maadhiri pAtta nambi dhAn irukkAngO.

Also B and C is not a silly reason, thats the sole reason of having fight/song sequences 8-)

Sanguine Sridhar
1st February 2007, 11:23 PM
some things in tamil cinema are just not encouraged. such unnecessary restrictions doesnot allow tamil cinema industry to make more better films than those being made now.. some silly reasons given are ,
family audience wont like , B and C audience wont enjoy... and more crap...

for example,no derailed is going to release as pachaikilimuthu charam here... this script demands some restrictions to be broken.. but will it be???
why do we need songs??
why do we need intro fight??
why do we need a kuthu dance before the climax???
whyyyyyyyyyyyy??????????

Ungala maadhri ellarum nenachutaangana paravalaye! :) 6 -3\4 kodi makkal saamy! idhula neenga nenaikira maadhri 1% irrupaangala?!

podaango
2nd February 2007, 09:15 AM
why there is a horny song in kaadhal???

Because it is far better than introducing American Beauty movie concepts.

Some how i like your avathar, to be honest initially i was scared for a moment.

swathy
2nd February 2007, 01:13 PM
Very good thread saamy

recently I watched one of the pongal release. ofcourse its running successfully.

It has got all the unnecessary things which you have mentioned.

but unfortunately many are not even aware about adaikalam. :cry:

avven
2nd February 2007, 01:54 PM
Very good thread saamy

recently I watched one of the pongal release. ofcourse its running successfully.

It has got all the unnecessary things which you have mentioned.

but unfortunately many are not even aware about adaikalam. :cry:

neega prashanth fan-a??? :roll:

kamalsurya
2nd February 2007, 04:40 PM
why there is a horny song in kaadhal???

Because it is far better than introducing American Beauty movie concepts.

Some how i like your avathar, to be honest initially i was scared for a moment.

The guy in Saamy avatar is Ulaganayagan Kamal pa! 8-)

Surya
6th February 2007, 06:22 AM
Very good thread saamy

recently I watched one of the pongal release. ofcourse its running successfully.

It has got all the unnecessary things which you have mentioned.

but unfortunately many are not even aware about adaikalam. :cry:

I thought it had an Average run at least didn't it? :?

Wibha
6th February 2007, 06:51 AM
Very good thread saamy

recently I watched one of the pongal release. ofcourse its running successfully.

It has got all the unnecessary things which you have mentioned.

but unfortunately many are not even aware about adaikalam. :cry:

yea adaikalam was a very gud movie............ it was something different from the same sentiments and stuff.i wonder y ppl didn't recognize it well :roll:

r_o_j_a
27th March 2007, 03:38 PM
:lol:
these are the essential ingredients to make a good kollywood film... without songs :clap: , masala or dishoom :hammer: ... the producers won't get a good profit..

:arrow: but why do we need vulgar materials and indirect reference to "sex"..

nemesis786
27th March 2007, 03:50 PM
did u guys read Kamal's interview in economic times? HE has pointed them out very clearly!!

thinkfloyd
27th March 2007, 04:07 PM
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did u guys read Kamal's interview in economic times? HE has pointed them out very clearly!!

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Media__Entertainment__Art/Entertainment/No_song__dance_please/articleshow/msid-1800837,curpg-1.cms

Excerpts


You can’t keep blaming the audience and say they like it. If you give people a chequered shirt, they will wear it. Who decides the fashion. Definitely not the people. Business ethics should ensure that you don’t sell something that will kill people

You mean we have to segregate content?
My friend Goldie Anand, lost his job for saying this. That was a political statement. I will say it, as I have nothing to loose. You must allow X-rated films and separate them from family entertainment. Currently, we are mixing it all. Mainstream cinema is being corrupted by this content. Censor board is a body appointed by us and we cannot let them behave like monitoring royalty. The industry must have a say in this issue. Instead of throwing a little bit of the sex into, say almost all, Tamil songs which have lyrics about licking, sucking, tasting and biting, (I'm just translating what’s publicly aired on FM channels all the while) separate the X rated stuff. All of this is frustration which needs an outlet.

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nemesis786
27th March 2007, 04:21 PM
yesn ot only this also on songs n dance etc... it was a very good interview!!

selvakumar
27th March 2007, 04:22 PM
I have a problem here. what KH says is : IF we allow the x-rated films, then the general expectations of the same from the audience in tamil films will get reduced.
I really don't get the logic here.

Already, the young generation is illegally watching all these stuffs. There are plenty of such VCDs / DVDs circulating in TN which can be watched by all.

Even after this, they are coming to the theatre expecting such a content !

IF they allow such films, won't the audience's expectation increase ? :confused2:

I really don't get what KH mean by that !

:roll:

Nakeeran
27th March 2007, 04:29 PM
Selva Sir

What Kamal probably intends is LAW OF DIMINISHING UTILITY

The more U see a stuff, the lesser the interest on it & gradually, U will stop looking at it.
( the original theory is applied on an apple ) :D

nemesis786
27th March 2007, 04:30 PM
Selva Sir

What Kamal probably intends is LAW OF DIMINISHING UTILITY

The more U see a stuff, the lesser the interest on it & gradually, U will stop looking at it.
( the original theory is applied on an apple ) :D


Micro economics guru vaazhga :clap:

smith
27th March 2007, 04:33 PM
U are right,selva. The audience is also to be blamed. Even kamal's film vasool raja had a dance number by rahasya. What was the need for it?

If the audience really feels that the producers are turning out trash, then let them stop seeing such films. By this indifference, producers will automatically start producing good, clean films.

We can have 2 opinions on the functioning of the censor board but kamal's views are ludicrous to say the least.

selvakumar
27th March 2007, 04:43 PM
We can have 2 opinions on the functioning of the censor board but kamal's views are ludicrous to say the least.

I agree with his views on Censor Board. I had a doubt on his statement since preference is mainly a "consumer driven one" than a "supplier driver one" :)

thimuru
27th March 2007, 04:44 PM
U are right,selva. The audience is also to be blamed. Even kamal's film vasool raja had a dance number by rahasya. What was the need for it?

If the audience really feels that the producers are turning out trash, then let them stop seeing such films. By this indifference, producers will automatically start producing good, clean films.

We can have 2 opinions on the functioning of the censor board but kamal's views are ludicrous to say the least.

this is like saying "i will sell kanja....people are getting...blame people.if people stop getting kanja ..i will start selling fruits and vegetables"

nemesis786
27th March 2007, 04:49 PM
this is like saying "i will sell kanja....people are getting...blame people.if people stop getting kanja ..i will start selling fruits and vegetables"

:rotfl:

smith
27th March 2007, 04:57 PM
Thimiru,
U have given a wrong example. U know very well that ganja is bad, then why do U continue to buy? It is like cigarettes. U read the caption & still continue to smoke.

Then why blame the producers? I am not absolving the producers but when they know sex sells, they continue to produce such films.

thimuru
27th March 2007, 05:00 PM
Thimiru,
U have given a wrong example. U know very well that ganja is bad, then why do U continue to buy? It is like cigarettes. U read the caption & still continue to smoke.

Then why blame the producers? I am not absolving the producers but when they know sex sells, they continue to produce such films.

but they sell cigarettes to children and aged people(they are made to watch it with normal stuff in theatre)

see...simple example!

if whisky is sold in tasmark...only drunkards will buy it!

but if it is sold with normal stuff in groceries?????

kamal asks to separate tasmark and market place...thats it

nemesis786
27th March 2007, 05:00 PM
smith says bcoz there is demand there is supply

selvakumar
27th March 2007, 05:01 PM
this is like saying "i will sell kanja....people are getting...blame people.if people stop getting kanja ..i will start selling fruits and vegetables"

Vikki,
You know. Several govts failed in their efforts to abolish "Alcohol". Once our TN Govt too put a ban on selling of alcohol. But our people travelled to states like Kerala, AP etc to quench their thirst. TN Govt was forced to the point of introducing special buses too in the concerned routes.

It just boils down to the level of individual preference and audience mentality. IF we stop producing movies like that, certainly our people will incline themselves to other state movies that can provide such content. Best e.g., Shakeela movies.

I am also hearing that most of the young generation watches only masala films in kerala. (NO offence meant) though they repeatedly give good films.

nemesis786
27th March 2007, 05:04 PM
The reason is people who think cinema is entertainment with all they desire in one package....

but people who watch films from all aspects dont like masala :roll:

thimuru
27th March 2007, 05:05 PM
this is like saying "i will sell kanja....people are getting...blame people.if people stop getting kanja ..i will start selling fruits and vegetables"

Vikki,
You know. Several govts failed in their efforts to abolish "Alcohol". Once our TN Govt too put a ban on selling of alcohol. But our people travelled to states like Kerala, AP etc to quench their thirst. TN Govt was forced to the point of introducing special buses too in the concerned routes.

It just boils down to the level of individual preference and audience mentality. IF we stop producing movies like that, certainly our people will incline themselves to other state movies who can provide such content. Best e.g., Shakeela movies.

I am also hearing that most of the young generation watches only masala films in kerala. (NO offence meant) though they repeatedly give good films.

selva,

if whisky is sold in tasmark...only drunkards will buy it!

but if it is sold with normal stuff in groceries?????

kamal asks to separate tasmark and market place...thats it


there should be children movie,family movie and adult movie!


now paruthiveeran and mozhi runs well... people are ready to accept good movies!

thimuru
27th March 2007, 05:06 PM
nowadays children are like "pinjulaye paluthadhu" because of movies....

onnan classlaye propose pandradhu, kiss adikaradhu :rotfl:

nemesis786
27th March 2007, 05:08 PM
mozhi good movie ok ... paruthiveeran good moviea?? dialogues scenes ellam paathengala :roll:


PS : Good in the sense i assume u meant degree of U or A !

selvakumar
27th March 2007, 05:11 PM
selva,
if whisky is sold in tasmark...only drunkards will buy it!
but if it is sold with normal stuff in groceries?????
kamal asks to separate tasmark and market place...thats it
there should be children movie,family movie and adult movie!
now paruthiveeran and mozhi runs well... people are ready to accept good movies!

Vikki,
I understood that part. My doubt is : Will the segregation do anything good? I mean : IF we separate the content, will the audience' general expectation on a movie change? I agree that people accept good movies. But antha movies ellam perusa HIT aavathillayae :?:

For this : Everyone in the film making should understand their responsibility and should give only good movies. will it happen inspite of the segregation? :roll:

thimuru
27th March 2007, 05:15 PM
selva,
if whisky is sold in tasmark...only drunkards will buy it!
but if it is sold with normal stuff in groceries?????
kamal asks to separate tasmark and market place...thats it
there should be children movie,family movie and adult movie!
now paruthiveeran and mozhi runs well... people are ready to accept good movies!

Vikki,
I understood that part. My doubt is : Will the segregation do anything good? I mean : IF we separate the content, will the audience' general expectation on a movie change? I agree that people accept good movies. But antha movies ellam perusa HIT aavathillayae :?:

For this : Everyone in the film making should understand their responsibility and should give only good movies. will it happen inspite of the segregation? :roll:

:roll:

its ok if the stuff is acceptable!

but sj suryah types :roll: !kasthuriraja types :roll:

smith
27th March 2007, 05:34 PM
Paruthi veeran is definitely not a good movie in that sense. As for mozhi, yes.

But how many mozhis have flopped for 1 mozhi to be a hit?

There are scores of 'good' films that have flopped & still flopping. Maybe the situation is better today but still....

nemesis786
27th March 2007, 05:35 PM
So

GOOD FILM , ENTERTAINING FILM , HIT FILM , FLOP FILM -- these r all different from each other :wink:

thinkfloyd
27th March 2007, 06:03 PM
U are right,selva. The audience is also to be blamed. Even kamal's film vasool raja had a dance number by rahasya. What was the need for it?

I think this is stupid...
Of course he is the first to admit that he has acted in crap and he has also quoted 'raunchy' songs from his films in interviews...
Tell us something new (yawn)....

thinkfloyd
27th March 2007, 06:09 PM
Paruthi veeran is definitely not a good movie in that sense. As for mozhi, yes.


Paruthiveeran is not 'good'-a? :lol:
Probably Tom And Jerry is the one for you! (not that its bad, mind you :) ]

Prudishness like the one exhibited by smith here is the bane of Tamil Nadu

thinkfloyd
27th March 2007, 06:18 PM
I have a problem here. what KH says is : IF we allow the x-rated films, then the general expectations of the same from the audience in tamil films will get reduced.
I really don't get the logic here.

Already, the young generation is illegally watching all these stuffs. There are plenty of such VCDs / DVDs circulating in TN which can be watched by all.

Even after this, they are coming to the theatre expecting such a content !

IF they allow such films, won't the audience's expectation increase ? :confused2:

I really don't get what KH mean by that !

:roll:

Selva,
What he says is segregation, not increase or decrease per se...
i.e, take the 3 letter word out of the closet... pothi pothi vechu, indirect-a vulgar a thinichadhu podhum... Stop making it a big deal.. People who want 'that' will not come to 'these' movies.. Yes, VCD/DVD ellam irukku but it will still make a difference. Not everyone gets to watch VCD/DVD and you have censorship everywhere....there's always this pent-up demand which our directors only happy to exploit in kuthu songs, double meaning dialogues, and innovative camera angles...

However, that is just one aspect, the other is in dealing with prudish hypocrites :)

smith
28th March 2007, 10:52 AM
Floyd,
U are missing the point..
Today every T, D & H has access to DVD/VCD?internet. There has been talk of censoring some internet sites but has it happened?

Selva is bang on target when he says that in spite of all these happenings, people still come to theatres expecting those stuff.

WE talk of TN being one of the most "educated" states. What prevents the people from rejecting those kind of films? Surely nobody is going to drag U to the theatre . The producers are also to blame but to absolve the audience of all the blame citing the age old saying "Avanaga kaatranag athunaal thaan parkurome" is childish.

Coming to paruthiveeran, what do U mean by good? If U mean the performances, yes, but the way it has been shown, no. U do not have to actually show gore & violence to put forth Ur view. Showing it & then saying "I am only showing stark reality" is childish.

thinkfloyd
28th March 2007, 11:15 AM
Coming to paruthiveeran, what do U mean by good? If U mean the performances, yes, but the way it has been shown, no. U do not have to actually show gore & violence to put forth Ur view. Showing it & then saying "I am only showing stark reality" is childish.
Yeah, Ran, Saving Private Ryan, Godfather, all Scorsese films, A Clockwork Orange, etc etc are all bad movies... sure...

Childish? :rotfl:

smith
28th March 2007, 11:29 AM
Floyd,

If U want to win the argument, fine, but U are missing the wood for the trees.

Sanguine Sridhar
28th March 2007, 11:38 AM
My question is we do have movie branded as Adults only(U, U\A has equal adult scenes,dialogues mixture that is a different story), that means only 18+ should be allowed to watch it. But how many theatres follows that rule actually? Almost none!

Then how we can expect such a maturity from the audience,theatre owners or from Government side if XXX movies are legalised? I mean can theatre owners takes a wise descision that only 21+ should be allowed by checking a proof say driving licence etc.,?

joe
28th March 2007, 11:47 AM
பாலுணர்வு குறித்த சமூகப்பார்வை மாறாமல் ,இந்தியாவில் அன்றாட வாழ்வில் பாலுணர்வுக்கு கொடுக்கப்படும் அதீத முக்கியத்துவமும் அது குறித்த பொத்தி வைக்கப்பட்ட போலி பிம்பமும் குறையாத வரை திரைப்படங்கள் மட்டும் மாறிவிடும் என்று எதிர்பார்ப்பது எந்த வகையிலும் நியாயம் இல்லை.

ssanjinika
28th March 2007, 01:49 PM
My question is we do have movie branded as Adults only(U, U\A has equal adult scenes,dialogues mixture that is a different story), that means only 18+ should be allowed to watch it. But how many theatres follows that rule actually? Almost none!

Good point. No where in India they actually enforce this rule. In the US if a movie is rated R a person who looks young has to show his identification to prove he/she is over the age of 18. Appadi errukkumbothu eppadi restrictionsE illatha padam edukamudium?


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groucho070
28th March 2007, 03:44 PM
Probably Tom And Jerry is the one for you! (not that its bad, mind you :) ]



Take it easy, I'm a big fan of Tom and Jerry. I almost had my arua out, until you said that it's not that bad. I'd rather watch Tom and Jerry anytime, compared to some of the live action crap that film factory has been churning out for long time.

I think the point some folks making here is packaging and addressing the right audience.

I like what is happening in Singapore. They have R(A) rate, which means Restricted Artistic. These contain nudity or extreme violence and for artistic purpose.

And they have other rating that ensures children are protected.

X-Rated film will never do well in theatres, as one would like privacy and VCD/DVD can take care of that.

And you know what? Internet is breaking whatever intention government with certification and moral policing.

Anyone can download anything nowadays. You are too young to wacht it in theatre? Wait awhile and you can download it from the net. And then, you have Filesharing. So on, so forth.

It will be a wonder what the filmakers are going to do about it.

As for restrictions getting loser and filmakers getting bolder...it's just a matter of time.


End of the day, it boils down to what the filmaker wants to say and whether the violence or sex is essential for the storyline and consistent with teh characters. Does it in anyway relevant to the plot. All those filmschool stuff.

I remember a movie called Mad Dog and Glory. It could have done away with that sex scene...except that in it, it showed how awkward De Niro's character was. Very embarassing. Essential for that character.

I agree with almost what Kamal said in that interview. Market it differently for different set of audience.

Am I on topic here? If not shoo me off, please.

thinkfloyd
28th March 2007, 06:51 PM
Take it easy, I'm a big fan of Tom and Jerry. I almost had my arua out, until you said that it's not that bad. I'd rather watch Tom and Jerry anytime, compared to some of the live action crap that film factory has been churning out for long time.

I'm a big T & J fan too :lol:
Point is, smith sonna madhiri criteria ellam paatha T & mattum dhaan pakkanum...




I like what is happening in Singapore. They have R(A) rate, which means Restricted Artistic. These contain nudity or extreme violence and for artistic purpose.

South Park (there you go, big man's T & J! :) ), A Clockwork Orange etc are banned here :(




End of the day, it boils down to what the filmaker wants to say and whether the violence or sex is essential for the storyline and consistent with teh characters. Does it in anyway relevant to the plot. All those filmschool stuff.

:exactly:

maithree
28th March 2007, 10:54 PM
Was Vetaiyaadu Vilaiyaadu an A Certificate movie?

nemesis786
28th March 2007, 11:58 PM
Was Vetaiyaadu Vilaiyaadu an A Certificate movie?

I think YES!

groucho070
29th March 2007, 09:41 AM
South Park (there you go, big man's T & J! :) ), A Clockwork Orange etc are banned here :(



Here, meaning where? Singapore? Did they? Damn. But I think they are available in DVD, right? Lesser restrictions on DVD.

Here in Malaysia, the censorboard is getting less strict on violence, but not nudity.

thinkfloyd
29th March 2007, 10:33 AM
Here, meaning where? Singapore? Did they? Damn. But I think they are available in DVD, right? Lesser restrictions on DVD.

Yeah Singapore.. DVD dhaan, banned...

Is Malaysia better in censorship?

Incidentally (thankfully), they didn't trim the Paruthiveeran climax in Singapore

Jabroni
29th March 2007, 10:46 AM
Floyd,

If U want to win the argument, fine, but U are missing the wood for the trees.

no argument. you win, dude.

your views jibes with mine

Jabroni
29th March 2007, 10:53 AM
People who want 'that' will not come to 'these' movies..
poor assumption. in the same sense, try to assume that to send a message to public or to entertain, you don't need 'that'

thinkfloyd
29th March 2007, 10:56 AM
poor assumption. in the same sense, try to assume that to send a message to public or to entertain, you don't need 'that'
edho solla vareenga nu theriyidhu... enna nu dhaan purile..

Jabroni
29th March 2007, 11:07 AM
5 hrs late aa varEn floyd. ellam irenda theriyuthu :oops:

maithree
29th March 2007, 09:19 PM
Was Vetaiyaadu Vilaiyaadu an A Certificate movie?

I think YES!

See! :banghead: Even in an A Certificate movie, the word F***was censored. :? Is the govt trying to protect Tamil Adults from hearing the F word? :?

Also the body of Prakash Raj's daughter was censored also! :x It completly ruins the effect the scene was supposed to have. :roll:

Ramakrishna
29th March 2007, 09:23 PM
Also the body of Prakash Raj's daughter was censored also! :x It completly ruins the effect the scene was supposed to have. :roll:

:roll:

maithree
29th March 2007, 09:29 PM
:huh: U don't remember the scene?

When Kamal finds the body of PR's daughter?