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Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 12:07 AM
Please discuss about Raja's 1990s songs here :D

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 12:08 AM
Oh God, it is really to know that many raja song came at the period from 1992 to 1997 (ARR peak time) went unnoticed???.

Oru oorla oru rajakumari (Vanthal vanthal - my fav)
Kattumarakkaran - (good songs)
Paattu Vathiar (all good songs)
Anazhagan
Kanmani
Periya Maruthu
Ilaiya Raagam (Maruthani and one???)
Chandraleka (Arumbum thalire - my fav)
Vasantham
Poovarasan (Kattikidalam, Rasathi - both are my fav. song, intha poovuku)
Katta panchayathu (Vendina vendum varam, Oru chinna)
Irattai Roja (Siruvani aathu thanthi, unnai vida maaten)
Kadavul
Senthooram (all superb songs)
Annan (Aala marathu kiliye)

Can anyone remember senthooram songs? :D

narayanan
5th May 2006, 12:15 AM
Mownam Sammadham (Kalyana THenila my pick :), other 2 were good too)
Siraichalai (Sempoove Poove tops it)
Kadhalukku Mariyadhai
Kannukkul Nilavu
Kizhakku Vaasal
Priyanka (Vanakuyile..Jilla Muzhukkum was good too, though not the best)
Idhu Namma Boomi (Vaana Mazhai Pole :) )

Senthooram ? some Devayani movie right ? havent even heard the songs though.

buggle
5th May 2006, 12:31 AM
I think Vanaja Girija movie also came during that period.
One song i love in that is Munnam Seidha Thavam sung by SPB and SJ.
Also i think this is the last song IR made SPB and SJ sing together for a song in his music. Man i miss that pair...can that happen again in IR music?

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 12:35 AM
Munnam seidha song is superb melody song.

And Siraichalai (kalapani) has another one fantastic song "Suttum sudar vizhi parvaiyile" what a terrific music orchestration and "ithu thai pirantha thesam" too

narayanan
5th May 2006, 12:42 AM
SPB isnt a singer. he's a phenomenon. still singing after like 37 yrs since his debut :o
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Veera was a good hit album. 'THirumagal Un Mugam' from 'Vanaja Girija' originally was in Veera cassette was a good number.

'Oru Kootula Siru Kokilam' and 'Ullasa Poongatre' from Kolangal were good ones

Vandhal Vandhal Rajakumari from 'Oru Oorila Oru Rajakumari'

Vetri Vetri from Kattumarakkaran.

Azhagana Manjappura, Oru Sandhana Kattukulle from Ellame En Rasathaan

Vanmathiye from Aranmanai Kili

Kuyil Paatu from En Rasavin Manasile

narayanan
5th May 2006, 12:44 AM
Sanjeevi,
Kadavul, Vasantham :roll: never heard ? when did they come ?

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 12:58 AM
Kadavul is a movied directed and acted by Velu prabhakaran. But Vasantham did not touch the silver screen till now.

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 01:01 AM
Sevvanthi songs were too good.

1) Punnai vana poonguyile poo magalae vaa
2) and another one :roll:

narayanan
5th May 2006, 01:07 AM
There was a Karthik movie with a song starting 'Punnai Vanathu Kuyile nee ennai anaithu isai paadu'. I think Muthukalai...had one more song like 'Andha kanji kalayatha vanji sumakkayile' in the vayalorams.

'Nandhavana Theru' - Guess thats Raja too :roll: had 2 good songs 'Velli Nilave' (popular one) 'Enna Varam Vendum'. There was one more female solo classical song, forgot the start.

Sollividu Velli Nilave from Amaidhi Padai (wasnt in the movie I suppose). Had a flue BGM piece used from the prelude, repeated throughout the Ranjitha scenes.

Nadodi Thendral (was in 90s ?)

Valli

one song from Nadodi Paatukaran (forgot :roll:)
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Punnai Vana Poonguyile is the duet song with Sreeja onscreen right ?

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 01:13 AM
Narayanan you are right :D and Velli Nilave is anoher superb song by IR & SPB combo.

One more film - Chinna Vathiyar

En Kanmaniye Kanmaniye solluvathai kelu :D yet another raja's great work, a lovely song with dialogs

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 01:15 AM
Song : Aala maram mela varum pacha pasunkilye
Film : Senthooram
Singer : Bavadharini

narayanan
5th May 2006, 01:18 AM
Chinna Vadhiyar was Raja ? ok there was one more song that goes 'Vatta Pandhu' the humming in the interludes is good for that song. nice fast paced one.
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Do you remember that classical female solo song in Nandhavana Theru ? I remember she sings in a temple.
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Rasayya had a good pathos song 'Unna Nenachu urugum vannakili', somehow I dont like 'Masthana' and 'Kadhal Vanile' (Preeti Uttam Singh's pronunciation :twisted: donno why he chose her to sing :roll:)

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 01:24 AM
Ya vattapandhu in CV is good.

Sorry I could't remember the veenai song (female solo) and also another song sung by swarnalatha in the movie was good (Nandatha vana therukulle muthusaram naan irukka - middle line)

narayanan
5th May 2006, 01:27 AM
ok...I somewhat remember that song Vizhiyil(this word is song) sudhi meetava is how the song starts. it was a Chithra solo if am right.

rajasaranam
5th May 2006, 01:47 AM
are you two talking about the non hit songs from this period or what???
Man there were blockbuster hits like veere, mahanadhi, kalaignan, marupadiyum, devar magan, walter vetrivel, aavarampoo, mannan, kathalukku mariyadhai, natupura paatu, raajakumaran, veetle visheshanga.... and many many more 8-)

narayanan
5th May 2006, 02:00 AM
Eeramana Rojave is the 90s right ? guess it was a musical hit too.

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 10:39 AM
Oh no, this thread is for entire 90's songs not only for non-hit or hit, etc

swathy
5th May 2006, 10:48 AM
Ramana

Azhagi

Sedhu

narayanan
5th May 2006, 10:49 AM
swathy,
except for Sethu, others were 2000s right :roll:
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Sanjeevi,
that song i told you yesterday is 'Viralil Sudhi meetava' from Nandhavana Theru not Vizhiyil as I said yesterday.
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Ponnumani was the 90s? Nenjukulla, Hey Vanjikodi, Anba Sumandhu were good.

Sethupathi IPS

swathy
5th May 2006, 10:51 AM
swathy,
except for Sethu, others were 2000s right :roll:
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Sanjeevi,
that song i told you yesterday is 'Viralil Sudhi meetava' not Vizhiyil as I said yesterday.

oh sorry confused with year :roll:

tvsankar
5th May 2006, 01:14 PM
Dear Sanjeevi,


Film - RAja kaiya vecha

songs - 1. Mazhai varudhu mazhai varudhu - By KJY and ??? kudai kondu vaa


V.V.V.V. excellent song !!!!

Marudhani arachanae
unakaga padhama - By IR

janagaraj kaga varum song idhu.IR paduvadhai kettal Janagaraj face dhan ninaivil varum.

with Love,
Usha Sankar.

narayanan
5th May 2006, 01:24 PM
Ushakka,
Mazhai Varudhu is a fantastic song. adhula vara oru rhythm romba nalla irukkum. gentle mazhai song. good picturization (except for Prabhu gundu).

innoru paatu irukkume. not as popular I suppose ?

BTW your other song, vera face nyabagam irukka? i too remember that song. but no idea abt the movie.
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Prabhu padangal'laye:

Chinna Thambi
Arangetra Velai
Pandithurai'la oru song nalla irukkum'nu solluvanga..marandhu pochu
Senthamizh Paatu
Urudhi Mozhi (3 songs were really good)

Sathyaraj padam:
Paadha Kolusu - Thirmathi Palanisamy (is it IR ?)

Captain:
Captain Prabhakaran (Aatamma Therottama, there was one more song :roll:)
Managara Kaaval (Thodi Ragam Paadava)
Pulan Visaranai ???

non-Tamil:
Gulabi was a big hit - I love Ee Velalo and that sad male solo.

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 02:06 PM
Dear Ushaji,

Mazhai varthu sung by KJJ and Chithra

and

Thirumathi Palanichamy songs all good. When seeing the movie at the place of "Oor Koodi therizhuthal" i was mesmerized. One of my all time fav is "Patha Koluzu pattu"

vasanth2006
5th May 2006, 02:07 PM
narayanan,

managara gaval is not by raja. it is by chandrabose.

vasanth2006
5th May 2006, 02:10 PM
Sevvanthi songs were too good.

1) Punnai vana poonguyile poo magalae vaa
2) and another one :roll:

sanjeevi,

the another song in sevvanthi film is "semmeene semmeene unkitta sonnene".

that is beautifull melody.

i have a long list. (it also contains the songs whatever u discussed) can i post the list?.

narayanan
5th May 2006, 02:14 PM
Thanks Vasanth..even otherwise I think it was a late 80s movie. not 90s technically.
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Sanjeevi,
'Oor koodi therizhuthal' :roll: dint quite get it.
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one curious question :D
Pyramid was one of the popular cassette companies during the 90s. Except for Veera and Sathi Leelavathi AFAI can remember most came out in Echo or sometimes Lahari..is there a special reason for that?

oh yeah add Sathi Leelavathi (Maharajanodu is the pick)

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 02:21 PM
Please visit
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006137/

to know about Raja's product list with year

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 02:22 PM
dear Vsasnth, it is always welcome

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 02:23 PM
I like Kadhal Kavithai songs especially

Kadhal meethil oru kadhal

fantastic song

Aalana naal muthala is a super hit song

vasanth2006
5th May 2006, 02:33 PM
I think raja produced some memorable and extraordinary numbers during 90-93. that is up to 93. but after 93 the no of hits decreased and his style of music also changed.

if u consider the style of music , then he has changed his styles
like this IMHO( overall and brief)

1976 -- 1980

in this period, i think he has the shades of MSV .

1981 -- 1987

this is the best period of raja. pure raja style. golden period of raja.

1987 -- 1993

this also the best period of raja. but his recording and instrument usage is drastically changed.

1993 -- 1998

i consider this is the week period of raja.

1998 -- 2006

in this era, i think he is more concentrated on movie selection and he changed the style and come back firmly.


each raja fan having their own tastes. silarukku 1976-80 konjam romba pidikkum. sila perukku 1987-93 romba pidikkum.

narayanan
5th May 2006, 02:54 PM
Sanjeevi,
Diana song from Kadhal Kavidhai was also good. Although I too like 'Kaadhal Meedhil oru' :)
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Vasanth,
I guess 92-93 time'la irundhu there were lots of upcoming composers who came that time. Rahman had the biggest musical hit in his first movie in 92. I guess lot of rhythm pad style beats started around that period too and became pretty popular too. was like a transition time to more westernish style of instrumentals..lot of importance to ludes and tunes than lyrics.

Early 80s was my favourite period of IR music, that was yet another transition from the MSV style of complete voice+lyrics concentration to a more voice+lyrics+tune type.

Basically the experimentation and audience response in terms of cassette sales and general radio requests etc leads to transitions like this (I think :roll:)

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 02:58 PM
Vasanth nice attempt to classify Raja's era and I too think the same :D

For most of IR fans, 80s was the golden era

vasanth2006
5th May 2006, 04:29 PM
[tscii:fe22a3bcf6]sanjeevi, thanks for your link of raja's all films.

Here is the list for 1990-2000.

this list contains my Hot Favs only.


162.mounam sammatham---kalayana then nila
163.puthu pattu---nethu orutharai parthom
164.sirayil pootha china malar---o…. thenrale
165.thalatu padava---neethana neethana
166. “` ---varathu vandha
167.unnai solli kuttramillai---sorkkathin vasarpadi
168.chinna thambi---povoma urkolam
169.eeramana rosave---vaa vaa anbe
170.en rasavin manasile---kuyil pattu
171.guna---kanmani anbodu
172. “----unnai naan ariven
173.idhayam---poonkodidhan
174. “ ---idhayame
175.karpulla mullai---poonkaviyam
176.oorellam un pattu---oorellam un pattuthan
177.avaaram poo---samikitta
178. “ ---allolam
179.chinna gowndar---muthu mani malai
180.chinnavar---kottukali kottu nayanam
181.deiva vakku--- Valli Valli
182.devar mahan---enchi eduppazhaha
183.entrum anbuden---thulli trindhathoru kalam
184.meera---aha o…butterfly
185.nadodi pattukaran---agaya thamarai
186.singaravelan---thudhu selvatharadi
187.vanna vanna pookkal---kannamma
188 “ ----ela nenje vaa
189.villu pattukaran---solai malaiyoram
190.aranmanai kili---rasave unnai
191. “ ---adi poonkuyile
192.chinna mappillai---kadhoram lolakku
193.enga thambi---malaiyora manguruvi
194.marupadiyum---nalam vazha
195. “ ---ellorum sollum pattu
196.udanpirappu---nandri sollave
197.valli---enna enna kanavu
198 “---ennulle ennulle
199.maha nadhi---sri renga renga
200. “ ----thai pongal
201.senthamizh selvan---pattu esai pattu
202.enga thambi---mane maragathame
203.sevanthi---semmene semmene
204. “ ----punnaivana poonkuyile
205.avatharam---thenral vandhu dheendum
205. “ ---aritharathai poosikolla
206. “ ---oru gundumani
207.ellame en rasathan---aazhagana manjal
208 “ ---veenaikku veenai
209.chandraleka---alla un aanaipadi
210.kolankal---chinna koottil
211.muthu kalai---punnaivanathu
212.pattu padava---vazhividu
213 “ ---nil nil padhil
214.pattu vadhiyar---neethane nalthorum
215.poomani---tholmela
216.katta panchayathu---oru chinna manikuyilu
217.devathai---oru naal andha
218.raman Abdullah---en veettu
219. “ ----muthamizhe
220.kadhalikku mariyathai---ennai thalata varuvalo
221. “ ---idhu sangeetha
222. “ “ ---anantha kuyilin
223. “ “ ---oru pattam poochi
224.kizhakum merkkum---kathum kuyile
225.manam virumbuthe unnai---elavenir kala
226 “ “ ---etho etho nenjil
227.kummi pattu---chinna chinna manasu
228.time---kadhal neethana
229 “----thavikkeeren thavikkeeren
230.kadhal rojave---ninaitha swaram
231.kannukkul nilavu---eravu pagalai theda
232. “ “-----rojapoonthottam
233.friends---kuyilukku
234. “-----manjal pusum
235.sethu---enge sellum
235. “-----varthai thavarivitai
236.karisakattu poove---ayiram kodi
bramma --- ival oru ilankuruvi
Dhalapathi --- china thaiaval
“ --- sundhari
innizhai mazhai film songs
ithu namma poomi --- aradi suvaruthan
“ --- gana mazhai ( different melody)
kavithai padum alaigal film songs (2 songs)
Nadodi thenral --- maniye manikuyile
Orru vittu oru vanthu --- sorgame entralum
Pandidurai --- malliye china mullaiye
Pattukku naan adimai songs
Pondati devai --- arraro pattu pada
Puthu nellu puthu nathu songs
Sami potta mudichu --- madhulam kaniye
Chatriyan --- malayil yaro ( raja’s evergreen unbeatable no)
Chembaruthy film songs
Unnai ninaichen pattu padichen.---- nenchai thottu alli konda
Chinna vathiyar --- kanmaniye
Ponnumani --- nenchukkule
Pon vilangu --- puthu roadullathan
Veera, yejaman songs
Uthama rasa --- intha mamanoda manasu

Thanks
Vasanth



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tvsankar
5th May 2006, 05:08 PM
Dear Sanjeevi and Narayanan,
Thanks for the responses.

Dear Narayanan,
Unga list il - most of the songs enakum pidikum.
Thirumathi pazhanisamy il - ella songs um enaku pidikum.

Kuthala kuyilae
kuthala kuyilae
utkarndhu pesalama?

Nice one!!

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

tvsankar
5th May 2006, 05:11 PM
Dear Vasanth,
One small correction.

Pudhu roadullathan is from " Meera"

Pon vilangu - ippadi oru movie iruka? yar nadichadhu?

Analum Vasanth, this is too much!!! Ippadiya orae adiya ellathaiyum solradhu? Konjamum nyayam illai!!! Instalment la solli irukalam.

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

narayanan
5th May 2006, 05:49 PM
akka,
vasanth imdb'la irundha movie list'la irukkura corresponding songs'a appadiye mention pannitaru before he loses inspire to compile such a long list :o

I think it is Poovilangu not Ponvilangu.
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andha Periamma Mano duet song'um nalla dhaan irundhadhu. Raja Songs-Good thread'la adha pathi mention Vasanth dhaan first mention panninar.
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Chinnavar'la seaside'la oru duet paatu varume :roll:
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Vasanth list'ku ennoda sila contributions

Avarampoo padathula 'Mandhiram Idhu' romba nalla irukkum :)

Poomani'la Empattu Empattu

Veerathalattu'la 'Kadhai Pola Thonum' title song

Kizhakkum Merkum'la Poongatre nee Ennai Thodalama

Kadhal Rojave :roll: indha padathula dhaane 'Ilavenil idhu Vaigasi Maadham' paatu varum ?

Devathai...Deepangal Pesum

Karpoora Mullai..Poongaviyam Pesum Oviyam'la Yesudas-Susila-Chitra combo'la oru version irukkum. 2nd charanam'lendhu PS-KSC paaduvanga maari maari 'Kelviyin Nayagane' style'la paaduvanga.

Paatu Paadava'la..Poongatrile
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BTB...Time..Karthik Raja music illa :roll:

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 06:26 PM
There is a song i have heard long time before. That is "Sollathan Ninaikuren Thenmullaiyae Nilavaum Vanum Katrum ...." and movie is Pon Vilangu????

My one of all time fav song in Kizhakkum Merkum is

Kathun kuyilae Kathun kuyilae oru kuthan kurai sollalamo
Muthu Mania Muthu Mania ...

Singer : Sadhana Sargam

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 06:27 PM
Narayanan

Time music is by our Ilaiyaraja

vasanth2006
5th May 2006, 06:33 PM
narayanan,

oru chinna thirutham. nan antha listai imdb parthu create pannalai.

naan 2001 la raajangahm site parthu create panni vaichean cd record panndrathukku.

actually this is old list. athanalathan the periamma, parvathi ennai paradi mathiri films ellam miss ayiruchu.


usha akka,

thats why i asked can i post the list or can i post in installment?

but sanjeevi only welcomed. so i posted. we can discuss the songs in the list and not in the list. what is the problem?

then regarding ponvilangu song i am little bit confused now.

i think the song is "ooty malai rottinile oduthu par cycle vandi"

Not poovilangu. it is pon vilangu.pon vilangu is the film which has the hero ranjith( i am not sure.)

narayanan
5th May 2006, 06:41 PM
Oh..I mistook it for some other movie I guess. Was KR involved in anything along IR in that movie, donno why am association Karthik Raja with this movie :roll:
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Vasanth,
Ponvilangu, Sami Potta Mudichu idhellam padam vandhadhe kelvi pattadhillai :o

Parvathi Ennai Paradi :roll: eppo vandhadhu ?

Poovilangu hero was Saravanan (his debut movie).

vasanth2006
5th May 2006, 06:45 PM
then regarding manam virumbuthey unnai songs

1)ilavenir kala panjami

2) etho etho nenjil

really it is great songs. the film songs went unnoticed. because that is ARR time and the film also flopped.

hariharan sung well the songs. great gems from raja.

narayanan
5th May 2006, 06:48 PM
Vasanth,
'Ilavenir Kaala Panjami' was Doordarshan Oliyum Oliyum favourite during that time. It was a Prabhu, Meena movie that miserably failed BO. The song had no big instrumentals if am right :roll: Havent heard the other song you mentioned.

vasanth2006
5th May 2006, 06:51 PM
Oh..I mistook it for some other movie I guess. Was KR involved in anything along IR in that movie, donno why am association Karthik Raja with this movie :roll:
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Vasanth,
Ponvilangu, Sami Potta Mudichu idhellam padam vandhadhe kelvi pattadhillai :o

Parvathi Ennai Paradi :roll: eppo vandhadhu ?

Poovilangu hero was Saravanan (his debut movie).

i think in "time" karthik raja and Yuvan sung the songs if i am not wrong.

i think again u mistook regarding poovilangu. it is by Murali and kuyili right? attadi pavadai katthada song is from poovilangu.(80's movie)

Ponvilangu, Sami Potta Mudichu,Parvathi Ennai Paradi
ithellam antha periodla vanthathunnu theriyum. but i did'nt know
exactly.

Sanjeevi
5th May 2006, 07:27 PM
"Muthu nilave" song in Time sung by Karthik Raja

tvsankar
6th May 2006, 01:53 AM
Dear Vasanth,
Your point has been taken. Okva?

Some nos - during 90s - i think !!

1.Walter Vetrivel - Idhil enaku piditha song - Mannava mannava

2.Vetri vizha - all the songs i liked.

3.Chinna maapilai - kadhoram lolaku

4.Chinna Jamin

1. Vannathi poo paraiyilae - Nice beat !!!

2. Naan yaru enakedhum theiryalaiyae by IR

3. Oru something - i forgotton the lyrics !!

Dear Narayanan,

Chinnavar duet song - Andhiyilae vaanam
thandhana thom padum
alaiyoram sindhu padikum

Beautiful song !!! Indha padalai ninaithalae,
padal start agum podhu varum group of violins dhan eppodhum ninaivil varum.

Coming movies ellam 90s ?

1. Kattumarakaran

2.Pudhu patti ponnu thayi

3.Poovae pon povae

4.Maharasan

5. I love India

6. Kalainyan

7. Raja kumaran

8. Singara velan

9. Uzhaipali

10.Chinna durai

11.Bharani

Idhu ellam 90s enral, indha film songs ellam discuss pannalamae?

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

narayanan
6th May 2006, 08:49 AM
Ushakka,


1.Walter Vetrivel - Idhil enaku piditha song - Mannava mannava

thats my favourite too. I loved Sunandha's voice (except the way she pronounced 'madi mel urangu' in one of the charanams). The interludes are too good: the 1st one showing the tension Sathyaraj takes to reach home and the 2nd melodramatic humming+violins one. aana konjam over senti paatu :cry: :cry:

Poongatre inge vandhu is a good one too. Sinnarasave was the oft repeated during those days.

Pattu Nila'la ludes nalla irukkum
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2.Vetri vizha - all the songs i liked.

Vetri Vizha is late 80s, 1988 I think came in around Idhayathai Thirudadhe time.

Chinna Jamin'la ivlo paatu irukka :roll: ketkiren inniku :D
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Chinnavar duet song - Andhiyilae vaanam
thandhana thom padum
alaiyoram sindhu padikum

Beautiful song !!! Indha padalai ninaithalae,
padal start agum podhu varum group of violins dhan eppodhum ninaivil varum.

akka,
did you also happen to see that Diwali IR interview on DD, before Chinnavar got released and he was under the process of composing this movie. I still remember that interview, just for those violin tries for 'Andhiyile Vaanam' song. It was really nice to see an ensemble of violinists play that 1st interlude violin piece :). This happened about 14 years back and still a very unforgettable piece.
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1. Kattumarakaran

came around 1995, right around Kolangal
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2.Pudhu patti ponnu thayi

There's one song for which Radhika or some actress plays the nadhaswaram I remember seeing in Philips top 10 days (so surely after 1993). Many years later, I liked Ooradangum Samathile. One of the better songs of Swarnalatha and ofcourse Uma Ramanan :)
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3.Poovae pon povae
11.Bharani

:roll: :o
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8. Singara velan

1992-93 I think. Thoodhu Selvadharadi, Innum Ennai (Oliyum Oliyum fave) and the beatish Pottu Veitha Kadhal Thittam - initially I thought it was kind of irritating and liked it for the beats in the later days.
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7. Raja kumaran

Ennavendru Solvadhamma and Sithagathi pookale - both my faves, i developed a liking towards the second after multiple hearing (additionally Nadhiya factor ;))
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5. I love India

I like Engirundho Ennai Azhaithadhenna, although Aadi Varum pallaku was the most repeated that time. There was one patriotic song too from this movie, forgot that :roll:
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9. Uzhaipali

How would I ever forget 'Oru Kolakili', what a stylishly sung song :) and an equally stylish picturization :) defenitely among top 10s of IR-Rajini combo.

IR-Rajini reminds me of Ejaman too. I loved 3 songs.

'Oru Naalum' was the song I liked first, one of the catchy preludes, that 'Kankana kinkini manigalum olikka..' with the bell sounds was too good.

The humming that SPB+veena-ish music in the prelude of 'Nilave Mugam Kaatu' sets the mood for the moonlit pathos song. Lovely song to listen before you sleep. Both the violin+veena 1st interlude and flute 2nd interlude nalla sogam pesirukkum.

Both these song had very situational lyrics and very expressively sung by Janaki,SPB :thumbsup:

'Raaku Muthu' more than a 'valaikappu' song felt like a fast beat dance song. It is one of my favourite 'namma oor bus'la kekkara type drive song. Very pacy and very lightly loaded with percussion instruments makes it enjoyable to listen on repeat mode. More than the first interlude, I like the 2nd interlude, especially the piece between the 1st charanam and the percussion piece - toooo good.
~~~~~
One movie I think was left out so far is 'Makkal Aatchi', a movie that came on Diwali 1993(?). Although 'Melooru Maaman' was largely popularized due to TV. I felt 'Ippodhenna Thevai' (listen to the first interlude of this song, really nice ) and 'Kottu Melangal' (similar styled song as 'Malayil Yaaro' but sung in soft and less lively manner).

PS: idhellam paathu akka thinking 'adap paavingala ivlo padikka vekkareengale' :lol: ennayum, Vasanth'ayum thitrathukulla naan escape :mrgreen:

Sanjeevi
6th May 2006, 11:14 AM
Dear Narayanan,

listen Chinna jameen's "Adi vanthai poo" song. it has my best most favourite interlude when karthik climbing at a rock and act like a maharaja. One of the Raja's great interlude music.

narayanan
7th May 2006, 01:45 PM
Sanjeevi,
I liked the section of the 2nd interlude before the clap sounds, is it the part you are talking about too ? Unfortunately apart from 'Onappu Thattu' played repeatedly on TV, havent heard anyone of the other songs :roll:
~~~~~
Actually was think, rather than randomly discussing 90s Ilayraja songs. Can we have have a chronological year by year kind of discussion starting from 1990 onto 1999, discussing a little more in detail. Would be a nice trip down the memory lane for many Maestro fans. (Infact a start from 1976 would be even better, though I would'nt have much to contribute for that time period. It would be delightful to read those memories :) ).

What say you people ? ;)

tvsankar
7th May 2006, 01:56 PM
Dear Narayanan,
Periya postisngs mel kobam illai !!!! Vasanth orutharae ellavatraiyum sollivitare enru dhan kobam( kobam kuda illai.Oru jealous dhan ) .Okva?

Unga mail padichen.Nalla solli irukeenga!!!

Naan solla vandhadhai neenga solliteenga!!!

You are correct Narayanan. We can discuss in the order of year.Discuss about each film and its songs !!! I like your idea!!!

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

tvsankar
7th May 2006, 03:03 PM
Dear all,
One more gem is "Oru oril oru RAjakumari"

Unmaiyagavae gem dhan.

1.vandhal vandhal rajakumari

2.Raja raja dhan

3.kanmani kadhal


Indha film songs ketta udan manadhil vnadha ninaivu - Pickles ellam nanraga oorinal dhan taste.(Homemade pickles) Pickles potta udan use panninal taste nanraga irukadhu.Adhu nanraga oorinal dhan taste ae!!!

Andha madhiri IR songs - Neenda naal anal dhan adhan arumai theriyaradhu !!!!

Indha film songs ellam indha type !!!

Vandhal vandhal rajakumari - Great composition and great orchestration !!!

Yethanai naala unnai kannu vechen - nice tune

Raja raja dhan - Enaku migavum piditha padal !!lyrics il piditha lines -

Raja raja dhan
nalla roja roja dhan
ivan perai solli
ingae pattu padipom

aha - nenjara vaazhthu kooru !!!

ooru seidha yogam
ivan ingae pirandhan

moonam piriayai vandhu
ivan muzhu nilavai jolithan

WCM theory ku beautiful song idhu !!!! i feel

Oru Maina - Nenjai thodum inimaiyana melody !!!


kanmani kadhal - haunting tune!!!

Azagu nila - nice song !!!!


Indha film songs ellam kettu kondae iruken.Innum kettu mudikavillai !!!

Thoalindhu pona oru GEM !!!

With Love,
Usha Sankar.

S.Balaji
7th May 2006, 05:20 PM
Dear all

wish to know more about songs which were super hits after 1995 to 2000

and also how many movies did IR compose during those years ?

narayanan
7th May 2006, 06:36 PM
From the raajangahm database. there were 76 movies (excluded Rajasthan and Time remakes)

Its hard to say how many songs were superhits. Those were the days I did'nt have sources other than the TV to know the songs of those time. Here are some of the songs that came more than 1 time on TV during 1995-99:

1995:
Avatharam(Thendral Vandhu, Oru Gundumani)
Chandralekha (Alla Un Aanaipadi, Anal Thanil)
Chinna Vathiyar (Hey Taxi Taxi :P)
Ellame En Rasathan (Azhagana Manjapura)
Muthukalai (Kanji Kalayatha, Punnai Vanathu)
Nandhavana Theru (Velli Nilave)
Oru Oorle Oru Rajakumari (many songs especially Vandhal Vandhal and Oru Maina)
Paatu Padava (Vazhi Vidu was 107.1 FM favourite, Poongatrile was Philips top 10 fave)
Rasayya (Kadhal Vanile, Masthana)
Sathi Leelavathi(Maharajanodu and Marugo)

1996:
Irattai Roja (Siruvani Aathu, Unnai Vida matten)
Kaalapani/Siraichalai
Kattapanjayathu (Vendina Vendum Varam)
Poomani (Empattu)
Poovarasan (indha ponnukkoru purushan)

1997:
Devathai(Deepangal Pesum and at times Oru Naal or Enge en Kadhali)
Kadhalukku Mariyadhai (no further explanation needed :mrgreen:)
Raman Abdullah (En Veetu Jannal, Muthamizhe)

1998:
Desiya Geetham (forgot which song was :roll:)
Kadhal Kavidhai (Aalana, Vasamikka Malargalai, Diana Diana)
Veerathalattu(Sandhupottum Sandhanapottum)
Kizhakkum Merkum (again forgot :roll: only one song was played few times)

1999:
Manam Virumbuthey Unnai (Ilavenil Kaala Panjami)
Time(Kadhal Neethana, Thavikkiren)

PS: err did I misread after 2000 :o.
~~~~~
Could someone start with the movies in 1990 (http://www.raaja.com/ric/film/FL-1990.html).

Sanjeevi
8th May 2006, 12:29 AM
Sanjeevi,
I liked the section of the 2nd interlude before the clap sounds, is it the part you are talking about too ?

Exactly the same narayanan :D



Dear all,
One more gem is "Oru oril oru RAjakumari"

Unmaiyagavae gem dhan


You have told what i am thinking. At the same period, Kattumarakkan was also released .



Chandralekha (Alla Un Aanaipadi, Anal Thanil)


How did you forget Arumbum Thalirae song. It mesmerised me at that time and i like that one more than "Alla" song. We can find the same rthym beat on ARR's Vande Madharam song which came later.

S.Balaji
8th May 2006, 04:29 PM
God .....only 4 movies during 98 and 3 duing 99 ??

Wish to know more about this. Actually I have been away from Chennai for long...Can someone enlighten the reasons ?

thumburu
8th May 2006, 06:06 PM
Balaji, you missed "Sethu" from 1999
"malai en vedhanai" and "sikaadha chittondru" were shown quite often
I think "Naattupura p[aatu" was a hit in 1996 where "otha roobaa thaaren" was aired often

rajasaranam
8th May 2006, 08:11 PM
God .....only 4 movies during 98 and 3 duing 99 ??
Wish to know more about this. Actually I have been away from Chennai for long...Can someone enlighten the reasons ?

1998 to 2000 was the worst period in IR's whole career :(
With most of the movies he composed becoming flops and songs also not getting hit due to ARR reaching his peak period.
The movie list for 1998
1. Annan
2. Desiya geetham
3. Dharma
4. Kaathal kavithai
5. Kangalin vaarththaikal
6. Kanmani oru kavithai
7. Kannaaththaal
8. Kavalaippadaathe sakotharaa
9. Kizhakkum Merkum
10. Kumbakonam govaalu
11. Manam virumbuthe unnai
12. Poonthottam
13. Senthooram
14. Thalaimurai
15. Veera thaalaattu
List for 1999
1. Anthapuram
2. Bharani
3. Chinna thurai
4. House full
5. Kaakkai siraginile
6. Kummi paattu
7. Mugam
8. Nilave mugam kaattu
9. Poonu veettukkaaran
10. Raajasthaan
11. Sethu
12. Thodarum
13. Time
List for 2000
1. Chinna raamasaamy periya raamasaamy
2. Friends
3. Heyram
4. Ilaiyavan
5. Kannaa unnai thedukiren
6. Kannukkul nilavu
7. Karisakkaattu poove
8. Karuvelam pookkal
9. Thirunelveli
Some of the movies had excellent songs though :)

S.Balaji
8th May 2006, 09:00 PM
Thanks ....another reason could be the new trend in music created by ARR .....consequently the tastes of audience also changed

I could recollect only Sethu ( enge sellum indha paadhai ) and Hey ram.......

wish to know from which movie Sudha Raghunathan's song APPADI PAKURADHUNNA VENAAM appears ?
IMHO, I could see the old Raja there especially during the second interludes.........

narayanan
8th May 2006, 09:17 PM
wish to know from which movie Sudha Raghunathan's song APPADI PAKURADHUNNA VENAAM appears ?

Balaji,
Thats from Ivan.
~~~~
Well I would'nt just attribute to Rahman alone, starting from early 90s, there were lot more directors who started composing movies. Thats why, if you see the raajangahm discography page, the number of movies was at 47 in 1990 to 17 in 1998 and 1999.

Raikkonen
9th May 2006, 10:58 AM
I like Gopura VAsaliley

Devadhai Pol oru penningu vanthatu thampi
Nadham Eluntatadi
Keladi en rathaye (i dunno exact lines)
Ini kadhal


And that AMAZING AWESOME UNBELIEVABLE bgm by the maestro..
That was one of the best if not the best....

narayanan
9th May 2006, 01:05 PM
A surprise find today. There is Prabhu movie called 'Dharmaseelan' that came in 1993. Donno why I associated that movie with Deva (relating to title credits) and always wondered how he made such likeable songs :o. inniku paatha thaan theriyudhu IR'nu :D. I always liked 'Anbe Vaa' (a nice peppy number sung by Mano and Swarnalatha) and 'Thendral Varum' (a slow duet song by Arunmozhi and Minmini) and 'Engumulla Allah' (sung by SPB and Nagoor Hanifa).

Really refreshing to hear it again today. I though 'Kinnaram' was'nt bad to hear either.
~~~~~
Sanjeevi,
Dont remember seeing 'Arumbum Thalire' aired back then, or maybe I forgot :?
~~~~~
Raikkonen,
The 3rd song was 'Keladi En Paavaye, Aadavan un thevaye', nice kindal song to listen ;)

I remember some good BGM when Karthik 'kidnaps' his friends through the Ooty mountain roads.

Raikkonen
9th May 2006, 01:07 PM
The BGM was so addictive...

It was similar like Idhyam BGM...

Raikkonen
25th May 2006, 01:11 PM
What movie had this song

Baby Baby Nee Yen Baby
Tegathil Nee Pathy Naan Pathy...

vasanth2006
25th May 2006, 06:01 PM
Poonguyil rendu onnula onnaa - Veetila Visheshanga (90's movie right?)

this is one of the mesmerising song.

such melodies can be done by raja only.

Sanjeevi
25th May 2006, 11:11 PM
Poonguyil rendu onnula onnaa - Veetila Visheshanga (90's movie right?)

this is one of the mesmerising song.

such melodies can be done by raja only.

Super song vasanth. It was very sweetest one when watching the movie at first time in a Tirunelveli Theatre. I had not listened any song of this film before watching the film. The music just mesmerised me especially the song mentioned by you.

For me (or a HC IR fan) this type of happening (i mean watching a IR film without hearing any songs before) is rare one.

Nitya
28th May 2006, 11:36 AM
There are a lot of 1990s Ilayaraja songs that I really like. The foremost are (in random order):

1. Paandi Durai-- Kaana Karunguyile (surprisingly melodious)
2. Thaanthu Vitten Ennai-- Mannavane Mannavane (one of IR's few ventures with awesome Arabhi raagam); Kangalukkul Ennai
3. Athma-- all the songs
4. Aavaarampoo-- again, all the songs, esp. Adukku Malli and Nathiyoram Karaiyoram.
5. Deiva Vaakku-- Valli Valli Ena Vanthaan
6. Chandralekha-- Allah Un Aanaippaadi; Arumbum Thalire
7. Naadodi Paattukaran-- Munnaiyoo Ponnaiyoo (folk song in Madhyamavathi); Thenpaandi Seemai (pathos in Charukesi, rendered by GA); Aagaya Thaamaarai (not sure if the title is correct; this is the IR duet set to Keeravaani)
8. Koyil Kaalai-- Thaayundu Thanthai Undu; Adi Mama Madhurai; Vanna Chindu Vantha Velaiyaadu (possibly IR's only Maand raagam song)
9. Rickshaw Mama-- Vaigai Nadhiyoram
10. Enga Mudhalaali-- Kunguma Manjalukku (a real classic)
11. Sakkarai Devan-- Manjal Poosum; Paakku Konda Vethala Konda Hoi; Thanneer Kudam Kondu
12. Thirumathi Pazhanisaami-- of course Paada Kolusu, but also Nadu Saamaththile.
13. Pudhupatti Ponnuthaayi-- Azhagaana Nampaandi (real classic); Manam Pola Maangalyam (Hemavathi); Madhurai Vaazhum Meenaakshiye (Arabhi); Ooradungum Saamathile (of course); Maankutti Nee Vaadi (chilling 2nd interlude)
14. Rajakumaran-- all songs, esp. Sithagathi Pookkale and Ennavendru Solvathammaa
15. Poonjolai (unreleased)-- Gaana Kuyile (amazing song in amazing Hamsanandhi raagam)
16. Puthiya Swarangal (unreleased)-- all songs ("Oru Kaathal Raagam," "Oh Vaanamulla Kaalam Mattum-2 versions," and "Puthu Kaaveri") The last one has the scale of rare raaga Sumaneesharanjani.
17. Ithu Namma Bhoomi-- Vaana Mazhai Pole
18. Puthiya Raagam-- Oh Janani En Swaram Nee; Maalai Soodum
19. Vietnam Colony-- Kai Veenaiyai Yengum Kalaivaaniye

There are just too many for me to list the entirety.

thumburu
29th May 2006, 04:58 PM
Nitya, "Koil KaaLai" has another nice folkish GowriManohari number "solai kiLigaL rendu" by SJ and SPB. The raga lakshanam is clearly evident when the charanam starts in a beautiful manner.
In "Rickshaw maamaa", I liked "vaNNa nilavukku" , SPB solo in Madhyamavathi and another peppy duet [SPB and SJ] "manakkum malligai mnnjathil irukku".
In Avarampoo , my pick is the KJY delight "mandhiram idhu" - Iam not able to make out the raga of this song.[Bhagashri? SriRanjini? Some line has some Desh like usage also

Raikkonen
30th May 2006, 11:18 PM
i like Rajakumaran and Athma songs on Nithya's list..

Villaku Vaippom Vilaku Vaippom
Ennavendru solvathemma vaji ival peralagai, nice song

Nakeeran
30th May 2006, 11:29 PM
90s songs !

I love Rajakumaran songs. IR gave a nice pack of songs for Prabhu's 100th movie !

1. Ennavendru solvadhamma ( my all time IR-SPB combo )
2. Chinna chinna sol eduthu
3. sithagathi pookale

Raikkonen
30th May 2006, 11:35 PM
Katule kammng kathhule also nice..

Sanjeevi
31st May 2006, 12:10 AM
வழிவிடு வழிவிடு என் தேவி வருகிறாள்
விலகிடு விலகிடு எனைத் தேடி வருகிறாள்
எவனவன் வாசலை அடைப்பது
.....
என் இதயக்கோவிலில் கதவில்லை கதவில்லை

Sanjeevi
31st May 2006, 12:20 AM
1995 was one of best year for Ilaiyaraja and ofcourse for his fans. There were lot of super hit albums and songs.

அவதாரம்
ஒரு ஊர்ல ஒரு ராஜகுமாரி
எல்லாமே என் ராசாதான்
பாட்டு பாடவா
நந்தவன தேரு
நாட்டுப்புறபாட்டு
பாட்டு வாத்தியார்
கட்டுமரக்காரன்
சின்ன வாத்தியார்
ராசய்யா
முத்துக்காளை
ஆணழகன்
இளைய ராகம்
சந்திரலேகா

and some more

சதிலீலாவதி
மாயா பஜார்
கோலங்கள்
மக்கள் ஆட்சி
ராஜாவின் பார்வையிலே
பெரிய குடும்பம்

all films came in 1995

raj_ram_76
31st May 2006, 08:25 PM
ALL songs of PUTHU NELLU PUTHU NAATHU were rare gems of early nineties composed by Raja.....

KARUTHA MACHAA

POO POO POO

BHARANI BHARANI...and so on...

Infact I remeber another song sung by raja himself. It goes like this...MARTHULAM KANIYILE NALLA MALARVANAKUYILE,,,MARAGATHAMANIYEE.....Excellent stuff,but very rarely discussed song!! I don't know the movie name.

Raikkonen
31st May 2006, 09:30 PM
Oru oorla ru rajakumari hit ah?
songs were fabulous, espcially vanthal vanthal rajakumari..

Nitya
15th June 2006, 04:23 AM
I don't know how many of you have heard the song "Akkarai Ellaam Kondu Veettaiyile" from Kattumarakaran. I think it's a refreshingly different and even majestic melody. Of course, the more popular songs from the film, "Kathum Kaathal" and "Vetri Vetri Endru" overshadowed this song. But both these songs are really good too. Then, we have "Ketkuthadi Kookkookkoo" which is decent but not as good as other Mohanam songs I heard, "Banana Banana Thirana Thirana" which is catchy but cheesy, and last (and certainly least) "Chinna Poove Poove" which is mediocre and I don't have much patience for.

I don't think that the songs from "Puthu Nellu Puthu Naalu" were rare.

In my opinion, "Oru Oorile Oru Rajakumari" is an overall average album by IR standards. I agree, the song "Vanthaal Vanthaal Rajakumari" is a great song, and "Raja Rajathaan," "Oru Maina Kunju" and "Eththanai Naalaam" have some very melodious parts, but still these songs leave lots to be desired. If you hear Mallu albums by Raveendran Mash or Devarajan Mash released around the time of OOOR and compare them to this you should be able to see what I mean.

Nakkeeran, I too love the songs in Rajakumaran. Although the songs may not be catchy on the first listen, a lot of them I find really soul-stirring. For this reason, I'd rate Rajakumaran as Ilayaraja's best film album of 1994, though "Mahanadhi," "Veera," "Vietnam Colony," "Rasamagan" and "Veetla Viseshanga" had some good songs.


Regards,
Nitya

crvenky
15th June 2006, 10:49 AM
Nitya,
Chinna poove poove (Kattumarakkaran) has some symphonic interludes. As you may be aware, this movie came around his symphony composing time. So, the movie had BGM by Deva.

yvsmani
15th June 2006, 11:41 AM
kovil kaalai had another good song :
pallikoodam pogalaamaa
angu puththagathai paarkkalama
ellorum thaan padikkum paadam
sollamalae puriyum paadam

has anybody listed songs from nilavae mugam kattu - chittu parakuthu kuththalathil ( first song by shankar mahadevan in tamil, I hope), vaigai nadhikarai, sutrathaa boomi thaayae nillu

jaiganes
10th March 2010, 02:20 AM
bump:
Right now I am in Chandralekah and in trance listening to Arumbum thalire and adikkadi thudikkum and Allah un aanappadi.
Tremendous feel of new age world music ...

rajkumarc
10th March 2010, 03:44 AM
Hope this thread comes back alive. Some of the 90's stuff that I am recently listening:

Mangai Nee Maangani from Innisai Mazhai
Maalayil Yaaro from Chathriyan
Naan Vakkapattu Poga Pora from Desiya Geetham (this song is mainly synth driven, but in the pallavi when the line goes "thullum kuthala kaathu", there comes a string section out of nowhere, it just feels a like a whiff of fresh air on your face. A lovely song sung beautifully by Sujatha).

baroque
10th March 2010, 05:42 AM
EARLY 90s ILAYARAJA albums to revisit or visit
ரிக்க்ஷா மாமா
கிழக்கு வாசல்
அஞ்சலி
ஒரு ஊரிலே ஒரு ராஜ குமாரி
கோலங்கள்
மோகமுள்
சின்ன தம்பி
தர்ம துரை
ஈரமான ரோஜாவே
என் ராசாவின் மனசிலே
கோபுர வாசலிலே
ராசையா
சதி லீலாவதி
குணா
இதயம்
ஆவாரம்பூ
சின்னக் கவுண்டர்
சின்னத்தாயி
தளபதி
தேவர் மகன்
நாடோடி பாட்டுக்காரன்
நாடோடி தென்றல்
செந்தமிழ் பாட்டு
செம்பருத்தி
சிங்காரவேலன்
my dear மார்த்தாண்டன்
மன்னன்
அரங்கேற்ற வேளை
சத்ரியன்
என் உயிர் தோழன்
கேளடி கண்மணி
பணக்காரன்
MMKR
கும்பக்கரை தங்கையா
கண்ணுக்கொரு வண்ணக்கிளி
தாலாட்டு பாடவா
மல்லு வெட்டி மைனர்
பெரிய வீட்டு பண்ணைக்காரன்
வண்ண வண்ண பூக்கள்
செந்தமிழ் பாட்டு
மகளிர் மட்டும்
ஆத்மா
எஜமான்
சின்ன மாப்பிள்ளை
கலைஞன்
கிளி பேச்சு கேட்கவா
மறுபடியும்
பொன்னுமணி
வில்லு பாட்டுக்காரன்
புது நெல்லு புது நாத்து
சார், I லவ் யு
வீரா
பிரியங்கா
மகாநதி
வால்ட்டர் வெற்றிவேல்
வள்ளி
உழைப்பாளி
அவதாரம்

Later part of 90s(97-2000 maybe) notable ILAYARAJA albums

பூவரசன்
காதலுக்கு மரியாதை
ராமன் அப்துல்லா
சிறைச்சாலை
தர்மா
காக்கை சிறகினிலே

Need to list the assorted compositions from unlisted movies in this list.
I need to look into my assorted collections... :)
அடி ஆச மச்சான் வாங்கி தந்த மல்லிகப்பூ.....folkish இளையராஜா flute , claps - ஸ்வர்ணலதா & chorus .... கும்மிப்பாட்டு
ஒரு சின்ன மணி....& வேண்டினா வேண்டும் வரம்.....கட்ட பஞ்சாயத்து
மணிக்குயில் இசைக்குதடி......மனோ.....தங்கமனசுக்காரன்....ty pical இளையராஜா's contaminated சிவரஞ்சனி with flute , தபலா orchestration .
அதிகாலை நிலவே.... What a composition ....ஜெயச்சந்திரன் & ஜானு
சாத்து நட சாத்து....ஆஷா ...சேதுபதி IPS
வான மழைப் போலே.... ஹரிகாம்போதி gazal & ஆறடி சுவருதான்......யேசுதாஸ் pathos ஸ்வர்ணலதா...
yet another நாட்டுப்புற பாட்டு இளையராஜா ......கிழக்காலே.....
கொட்டும் மேளங்கள் எந்தன் நெஞ்சில் கேட்க்கும்.... melodious சித்ரா's solo
ஒ மாரி...... யேசுதாஸ் lilting துன், flute , humming , strings orchestration மின்மினி .....tabala rhythm .
ஒரு சுடர்......மனோ & ஜானகி....ராஜாவின் பார்வையில்...
அம்மன் கோயில் எல்லாமே......அருண் மொழி....ராஜாவின் பார்வையில்...
தத்தி தத்தி தாவிடும்......romance in the air .....பாலா & சித்ரா.....பெரிய குடும்பம்.
vinatha.

Sureshs65
11th March 2010, 10:25 PM
A nice thread. Something we all need to talk about and share some newly discovered songs. There is quite a lot to unearth here now that there is the distance in time element and we are not look for hits to compete against the latest movies. So we can look just at the musical content.

First, I think we should probably push our dates to 1993 and later, since 1992 was quite a good year with lot of movies being big hits.

If I were to start from 1993, I would like to know about the songs in these movies. I am listing only those movies which were not considered hits and movies which many of us have probably not heard of. Ofcourse we can go to 'thiraipaadal' and try listening to all these one by one but the time factor always exists. So those who know songs from these movies can recommend to others.

Here goes my first enquiry list:

1993: Manikuyil, Kattalai, Kathirukka Neramillai, Enga Thambi, Enga Mudhalali, Chinna Kannamma, Druva Natchatiram. (Earlier Venkiram had given nice introduction to Sakkar Devan from the same period.)

1994: Satyavan, (I think raagadevan is giving some information on Seeman now), Sammohanam, Samaram, Periya Marudhu

1995: Illaya Ragam, Chinna Vathiyar

1996: Vasantham

1997: Vasuki, Themmangu Paatukaran, Thambi Durai

1998: Talaimurai, Veera Talatu, Kanmani Oru Kavidhai, Dharma

1999: Ponnu Veetu Karan, Man virumbudhe unnai

2000: Kelviyin Nayagan, IPC 215

I got the list from http://ilayarajahits.blogspot.com/2007_12_01_archive.html

Just like what Jai had send in a different thread, once you start analysing the movies that Raja gave in 90s, you are now surprised that everyone thought that he has lost his grip on music. Because there are so many outstanding movies in the post 1992 / 93 period that it seems cruel to call it a lean patch. Some examples include: Jackpot, Veera, Mogamull, Priyanka, Raajakumaran, Paatu Paadava, Rajavin Paarvayile, Chandraleka, Avatharam, Shiva Sainya, Nammura Mandara Hoove, Kaalapani, Raman Abdullah, Oru Yatra Mozhi, Manjeera Dhwani, Poonthotam, Anthapuram, Sethu, Friends (Malayalam) etc. A list,which, for any other composer can be a life long achievement!!!

app_engine
11th March 2010, 11:05 PM
A list,which, for any other composer can be a life long achievement!!!

Nicely put!

We often tend to focus merely on IR's "success rate" during this period, compare that with his mudi-soodA-mannan period and say that he withered out.

Further, the huge (& well-managed) success of ARR during the same period is used to eclipse the fact that IR didn't lose his touch purely on musical terms.

It's an obvious thingy that he progressively lost the favor with who's who of TF industry - with the exception of Kamal. (The shinier names went to ARR while the others had Deva as alternative and most BO successes were with these two or SAR. Interestingly, Deva/SAR mimicked 80's IR in a # of cases while IR was possibly trying to find his next trend).

It would be interesting to just focus on IR's movies during his "crisis" period - i.e. after the success of Roja or from 1993 and prior to 1997 when IR had a huge hit in KM.

raagadeva
11th March 2010, 11:10 PM
suresh,

I never ever heard anything on Kelviyin Nayagan, IPC 215....can someone throw light on this..

You can add the movie called Dhanush which had few good songs..but i got only audio cd during 2000 ..after that not heard anything on that movie..


Danush has the following songs..

1. Nillu Nillu - SPB, Subha, SPB saran (not sure abt it)
2. velli pani - Unni and ?
3. poovukku
4.en idhayam
5. pattu viral - vasundara das.

Sureshs65
11th March 2010, 11:59 PM
app_eng,

What you say is true. Of course I could first hand observe in Chennai during the 1995 - 1998 timeframe the change in trends after the arrival of Rahman. That did have a huge impact and pushed quite a lot of good music from Raja into the background. Added to it are the factors you mention like falling out with prominent labels, actors and directors (with the exception of Kamal and Balu Mahendra.) If you see the same period in Malayalam he was on a high with movies like 'Kaalapani', 'Oru Yathra Mozhi', 'Friends', 'Guru' etc. Any of these albums can be compared to _any_ other album that came out during those times and these will definitely stand out in comparison.

From my side I can understand why some movies like 'Ponnu Veetukaran', 'Thalaimurai', 'Veera Thalatu' etc did not reach the masses. There was an element of deja vu when they compared it with the more addictive sound of those times. Even big fans of Raja would find that these films did have some nice ideas but on the whole they were not probably the albums you would reach out for.

This focus on the not-so-good first has been happening when Raja's music is criticized now. Even big fans of Raja talk and trash the supposed bad songs in a movie first and then grudgingly acknowledge the good songs. In case of the other composers, it is the good songs which get praised sky high first and the bad songs are pushed under the carpet or we are told that we listen to it some undefined 'n' number of times before we start loving it. The same has been the case when people evaluate Raja of the post 1992/93 era. What comes to their minds are the 'Veera Talatu', 'Talaimurai' and similar such not-too-modern or trendy albums and in the process don't discuss much about the better albums. We must accept that lot of Raja music of those days did not reach everyone but there were movies with excellent music which should have reached people but didn't. 'Paatu Paada Vaa', 'Chandralekha' and that amazing 'Mogha Mull' are examples.

Sureshs65
12th March 2010, 12:05 AM
RD,

My feeling is that they were probably some dubbed movies (from Telugu maybe?)

I do have the 'Dhanush' album and I like the songs from that. Very surprising that I got the album very recently. Sometimes searching in vague shop helps :)

raagadeva
12th March 2010, 01:05 AM
you can add the following films which got missed out in the list.

1999 - Nilave mugam kaattu
1999 - chinna durai
1998 - kizhakkum merkkum
1998 - annan (not released..I belive)
1997 - punniyavathi(not released)
1997 - poonjolai (not released)

baroque
12th March 2010, 08:30 AM
kaathirukka neramillai....karthik with Sivaranjani.
வா காத்திருக்க நேரமில்லை..ஹோ :musicsmile:
signature IR's kalyani melody + echo flute, violin, tabla rhythm!
( dismiss the prelude, it reminds indha poovukkoru arasan...)
romance in the air with Shri.S.P.Bala.:swinghead:

Enga mudhalali...vijayakanth with kasthuri...
Janu teamed with Yesudas... strings, chorus, flute
enchanting duet.:swinghead:

annan... has a rehash of gundu malli gundu malli... solla marandha kadhai tune....vayasu pulla vayasu pulla....IR & sujatha in my Ramarajan Super Hits!
vinatha.

rajkumarc
12th March 2010, 11:01 AM
kaathirukka neramillai....karthik with Sivaranjani.
வா காத்திருக்க நேரமில்லை..ஹோ :musicsmile:
signature IR's kalyani melody + echo flute, violin, tabla rhythm!
( dismiss the prelude, it reminds indha poovukkoru arasan...)
romance in the air with Shri.S.P.Bala.:swinghead:

:exactly: Vaa Kaathirukka Neramillai is a superb song. The prelude is very catchy and that was the one that drew me to the song initially.

Kaathirukka Neramillai has another nice folkish song - Nilava Nilava Ingu Naan Pudikkum Neram sung by Mano & Minmini.

rajkumarc
12th March 2010, 11:13 AM
Here are some movies that would fit into Suresh's list:

1993: Chinna Thevan, Kili Petchu Ketkava
1994: Adharmam - has the Muthu Mani song; Athiradi Padai - Vennilavil Malligayil (One nice song that I know of - SPB Chitra)
1995: Makkalatchi, Paattu Vaathiyaar
1997: Kaadhal Rojaave

raagas
12th March 2010, 01:51 PM
1991 - http://rakkamma.com/films.phtml?year=1991 - 43 films
1992 - http://rakkamma.com/films.phtml?year=1992 - 57 films (staggering)
1993 - http://rakkamma.com/films.phtml?year=1993 - 41 films
1994 - http://rakkamma.com/films.phtml?year=1994 - 27 films
1995 - http://rakkamma.com/films.phtml?year=1995 - 24 films
1996 - http://rakkamma.com/films.phtml?year=1996 - 11 films (what a fall)
1997 - http://rakkamma.com/films.phtml?year=1997 - 16 films
1998 - http://rakkamma.com/films.phtml?year=1998 - 16 films
1999 - http://rakkamma.com/films.phtml?year=1999 - 15 films
2000 - http://rakkamma.com/films.phtml?year=2000 - 13 films
2001 - http://rakkamma.com/films.phtml?year=2001 - 7 films

I know we are discussing "Missed listening to" songs here and not quantity.. but I couldnt help pointing out this observation of mine.

baroque
12th March 2010, 11:02 PM
yeah .. POPULAR albums have been listed .

We wanna remind ourselves the assorted ones.
I used to live in SEATTLE during early 90s ...
Whatever I recall is from my India trips .

Speaking of முரளி...மயிலாடும் தோப்பில் மானாட கண்டேன்...similar tune of காதல் வானிலே காதால் வானிலே....in சுத்ததன்யாசி by பாலா & ஜானகி.

மானமுள்ள பொண்ணு என்று மதுரையில் சொன்னாக.....teasing புன்னகவராளி(puzhaiyoraththil punthoniethilaa (மலையாளம்-ATHARVAM) ...சித்ரா)
aagama vinuta raaga virahita ....haa haa haa haaa
aagama vinuta raaga virahita...
thyaagaraajanuta daasarathey....
aagama vinuta raaga virahita...
thyaagaraajanuta daasarathey....
thava thaasogam thava thaasogam thava thasogam dhaasarathey ...
dhaasarathey...
thava thaasogam dhaasarathey ...
Thyagaiya by ராதா ஜெயலக்ஷ்மி :musicsmile:

vinatha. :)

jaiganes
13th March 2010, 01:33 AM
http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00451.html
From Oru oorle iru raajakumaari - The song Azhagu nila..
it is an emotional masterpiece - enna aarudhal indha songla?
Yaaruba lyricist - thanga modhiram thaan kudukkanum.
The second intelude playfully teeters on 'Nenjukkulle innaarunnu' and gets back to the Azhagu nila song back - VEry very good song.