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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Topic started by kalai (@ 202.144.106.10) on Wed Jan 23 06:41:21 EST 2002.


One of the TFM pages, someone told “ PS sung 148 songs for IR. (proof.:raajangahm.com “). Someone replied “ no, so many songs are missing”. I just started collecting the songs. Very interesting part is “ some good numbers of IR is sung by PS in telugu
“ chinnathayaval thantha raasaave” – dalapathi ( SJ in tamil)
“valayosi kalakalakala ena kavithaigal - sathya (lata mangehkar in tamil)
“naanoru sindhu, kavadi sindhu” - sindhu bhairavi ( chitra in tamil)
“ore naal unai naan nilavil paarthathu”– ilami oonjaladugirathu ( VJ in tamil)
“kanna varuvaya mere ketkiral” -- manthil uruthi vendum (chitra in tamil)
“manjolai kili thano, maan thano” –kizhake poghum rayil
“ithayam poghuthe,enaye pirinthe” – puthiya vaarpugal (jency in tamil)

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
P. Susheela & Ilayaraja Combination

1. Aadu nananjathunnu ( anbukku naan adimai )
2. Adum neram ithu thaan ( soora samhaaram)
3. Andavan (sree shirdi sai baba)
4. Agayam kodadum (moontezhuthil en moochirukkum)
5. Agayam poo pOkum (sAtchi)
6. Apakadai (pAyum puli )
7. Araro pAda ( poruthathu pothum)
8. Asai ithaz osai ( malargal nanaigintana )
9. Asa vachen (natpu)
10. Asai ithaz osai ( malargal nanaigintana )
11. Asai nenjin kanavugal (mughathail mugham paarkkalam)
12. Asayila pAthi (enga ooru kaavakkaran)
13. Asiyile (duet) (enga ooru kaavakkaran)
14. Atahdi Atha (maariamman thiruvizha)
15. Athi antham (paadatha thennekkal )
16. Atam ponAtam (Gayatri)
17. Athangarayil oru ( ore mutham )
18. Aavaram poovai ( manamgale vaa)
19. abhirami annaye (O mane mane )
20. akka oru rAsathi (mughathail mugham paarkkalam)
21. alayile ( thaaiku oru thaalaatu)
22. alli vacha malligaye (elamai itho itho)
23. amuthe thamizhe (koil pura)
24. Ammadiyov (ennai paar en azahai paar)
25. angel aadum ( naanum oru thozhilai)
26. anthi mazhai megham (Nayagan)
27. annai thaalatu paada (Ambigai neril vanthal)
28. anne anne (krishnan vanthan )
29. appane appane (annai oru aalayam)
30. arumbarumba (china thayi )
31. aruviyile kuruvi (kaali)
32. ammadiyov (ennai paar en azahai paar)
33. arumbaahi (enga ooru kaavakkaran)
34. Atha maga thangathukku (Thangame thangam )
35. azhana pattam poochi (vaalibame vaa vaa)
36. azahe unnai nenjam (vaalibame vaa vaa)
37. azahazha (kaali)
38. azhuhintrom (sree shirdi sai baba)
39. chella pillai (penn janmam)
40. cheenathu pattu (thaai moogambighai )
41. chinnanchiru (amudha gaanam)
42. darling darling (priya)
43. devathigal vaatuvathu (thiru kalyanam)
44. dil dil dil ( mella thiranthathu kathavu)
45. Ea Thendrale (nenjathai killathe)
46. elea ilankiliye (ninaivu chinnam)
47. engengu thoduvathu (kanna thorakkanum sami)
48. engeyo etho ( nathiyai thedi vantha kadal)
49. en kanmani (chittu kuruvi)
50. enna solli ( raani theni)
51. enthan pon vanname (naan vaazha vaipen)
52. eru pudichavare ( kariyellam shenbagapoo)
53. ezhai poo unnai (puthia adimaigal)
54. Ezhaigal (Aval oru thani ragham)
55. gangai aatril (aayiram nilave vaa)
56. Ilamai kaalam ( thaaiku oru thaalaatu)
57. Inge Iraivan ( sir, I love you)
58. isai arasi ( thaaimoogambigai)
59. Ithaya mazhayil ( aalukkoru aasai)
60. Ithu than muthal (kanna thorakkanum sami)
61 jil jill maalish (patta kathi bhairavan)
62. jivvu jivvu (enga ooru kaavakkaran)
63. kaalai thentral (uyarntha ullam)
64. kaalam, ilamai kaalam (Thangame thangam )
65. kaali dhasan (soorakottai singakutty)
66. kaanalukkul (kaadal parisu)
67. kaathal thehangal (anbulla malare)
68. kaathiruntha malli (mallu vetti minor)
69 kaathodu poo urasa (anbukku naan adimai )
70. kaathoothuthu (anbu chinnam)
71. kalaimaane (kadal neengal)
72. kanmani appu (Africavil appu)
73. kannan enna sonnan (saainthaandamma sainthaadu )
74. kannan oru (padrakaali)
75. kanni ponnu kai mela (ninaivellam nithya)
76. kannukkulle yaaro (kai kodukkum kai)
77. karpoora bommai (keladi kanmani)
78. kelaayo kanna (naane raja naane manthiri)
79. kettele Ange (padrakaali)
80. laali laali (chippukkul muthu)
81. maalai karukkalile (enga ooru kaavakkaran)
82. maanodum paathayile (kavikuyil)
83. maapillaikku (nettrikann)
84. magane ila magane (magane magane)
85. mahizham poove (puthia adimaigal)
86. malligai poo kattilile (enna petha raasa)
87. manathile oru(duet) (thaayam onnu)
88. manathile oru paatu (thaayam onnu)
89. manathil ore oru (en purusan than enakku mattum thaan)
90. mangalam (sree shirdi sai baba )
91.manjal nilavukku (muthal Iravu)
92.mannavan vaazhum (pongi varum kaveri)
93 mathani mathani (kadal meengal)
94 mayanginen solla (naane raja naane manthiri)
95. mella mella ennai (vazhkai)
96.muthana mutham (Irumbu pookal)
97.muthamizh charame (vettiku oruvan)
98.muthu mani maala (china goundar)
99.muthamma muthu (thanthu vitten ennai)
100.manja kuruvi (chinnappa das)
101.meghame thoothaaga (kannan oru kai kuzhandai)
102. mogha sangeetham (kannan oru kai kuzhandai)
103.Naane un kaathali (thaayam onnu)
104.nathiyoram (annai oru aalayam )
105.nattu vacha (aranmanai kili)
106. neer kodukka (baala naagamma)
107.neramithu neramithu (rishi moolam)
108.nilavaggi vanthathoru (aval oru thani ragham)
109.nilavu neram (annai oru aalayam )
110.neer kodukka (bAla nAgamma)
111.nenjukkulle singakutty (patta kathi bhairavan)
112.neramithu neramithu (rishi moolam)
113.ontrodu ontronom (Anbukku naan adimai )
114.ore idam nirantharam (sattam en kaiyil)
115.oru kaathal thevathai (sainthadamma sainthaadu)
116.oru koyilin iru deepangal (penn janmam)
117.paada vanthatho (Ilamai kaalangal)
118.paadu pattu (urangaatha ninaivugal)
119.paapa, pacha paapa (archanai pookal)
120.pala naal aasai (intru poi naali vaa)
121.pasikku sorumille (thaai moogambigai)
122.pattu kannam (kaaki sattai)
123.pavala mani ther (neram nalla neram)
124.per sollum pillai nee (per sollum pillai)
125.ponnoviyam (annai oru aalayam)
126 poonthottam (nathiyai thedi vantha kadal)
127.per solla vantha pillai (magane magane)
128.pesa koodathu (adutha vaarisu)
129. pon vaanile ( anbin mughavari)
130. poo pookum ( varusam 16 )
131. poon kaaviyam ( karpoora mullai)
132. poon kaaviam(solo) (karpoora mullai)
133. poonkaathe antha (mannukketha ponnu)
134. poonthentral kaatre (manjal nila)
135. poovile medai (paghal nilavu)
136.pothukittu (paayum puli)
137.potti kadayila (neethiyin maru pakkam)
138.per sollum pillai nee (per sollum pillai)
139.raagavane ramana (Ilami kaalangal)
140.raasathi manasila (raasave unna nambi)
141.raasathi(duet) (raasave unna nimbi)
142.raasave unna kaanatha (vaidegi kaathirunthal)
143.raja chinna raja (poonthalir)
144.rettai kuruvi (irumbu pookkal)
145. rottoram cheriyile (Thangame thangam)
146. saarangathaara (ponnukketha purusan)
147.santhanam ittu (rusi kanda poonai)
148. Sevvanthai poo (16 vayathinile)
149.seer kondu sentavan (enakul oruvan)
150.sinthiya venmani (poon thotta kaaval kaaran)
151.sindhu nathikarai (nallathor kudumbam)
152.solai pushpangale (Ingeyum oru gangai)
153.sonthamillai (anna kili)
154.sonna pechai (thaalatu ketkuthamma)
155.sumangali poojai (Dharma pathini)
156.sugamo aayiram (thunai iruppal meenakshi)
157.thaalattu pillai (achani)
158.thakkali thakkali (ennai paar en azahai paar)
159.Thanga kudathukku ( maariamman thiruvizha)
160.thaniyaga paaduthu (Krishnan vanthan )
161.thathedutha muthu (rettai vaal kuruvi)
162.theku theru (Ingeyum oru gangai)
163.then mathurai (Dharmathin thalaivan)
164.then mathurai(pathos) (Dharmathin thalivan)
165.thenil aadum roja (avar enakke sontham)
166.thenna marathula (saatchi)
167.thennai marathula thendral (lakshmi)
168. thennankeetrum (mudivalla Aarambam)
169. thinam kalyanam (magudi)
170.thiru theril (naan vaazha vaipen)
171.thoporam thottil (enga ooru kaavakkaran)
172.thoori thoori (thenral sudum)
173.thottu paar (ennai paar en azahai paar )
174.thuli thuli mazhaya (kannukoru vannakkili)
175.vaada malli (kannukku mai ezhthu)
176.vaadi samanja (gopurangal saaivathillai)
177.vaalai paruvathile (kanne radha)
178.vanamellam (Naadodi paatukkaran)
179.vanna karunkuzhal ( penn janmam)
180.varuvai kanna neerada ( patta kathi bhairavan)
181.varatha kaalangal ( nathiyai thedi vantha kadal)
182.veeranthan (puthiya theerpu)
183.vizhiyil en vizhiyil (ram lakshman)
184.vayalooru mayillatom (anbukku naan adimai )
185.udhaya kalame (panjami)
186.un nenja thottu (raajathi raja)
187.unna nimbi nethiyile (chittu kuruvi)
188.unnaikaana (natpu)
189.urukku manasu (yuga darmam)
190.yaar yaaaru (muthu engal sothu)
191. ----- (murattu kaalai)
192. ------ (ennai paar en azahai paar)

Telugu Tamil version
1. aada janmakku (dalapati) Chinna thaai aval ( dalapathi)
2. kalaya nijama (coolie no.1)
3. college agelo (indrudu chandrudu)
4. sivapoojakku (swarna kamalam)
5. ghallu, ghallu (swarna kamalam)
6. koluvai (swarna kamalam)
7. chinni chinni (Badrakali) kannan oru kai(padrakali)
8. saagara sangamame (seetakoka chilukka)
9. kavvinje kallalo (pancha Bhoothalu) manjolai kili (kizhake pogum rayil)
10. vatapatra(happy) (swathimuthyam) varam thantha (sippukkul muthu)
11. vatapatra(sad) (swathimuthyam)
12. ilaage ilaage (vayasu pilichindi) ore naal ( ilamai oonjaladugirathu)
13. nenoka sindhu (sindhu bhairavi) naan oru sindhu (sindhubhairavi)
14. sande poddu (Nayakudu ) anthi mazhai megham ( nayagan)
15. Karpoora Bommavu (O papa laali) Karpoora Bommai ondru(tamil)
16.Tara tara madhyalo (Suhasini, Nazar, Baby Shalini - tamil dubbed)
18.Ramudu kala ganaledu (Raj Kumar)
19.daivam manava (shirdi sai baba...)
20. thanthana tham (Kotha jeevithalu) thanthana (pudhia vArpugal)
21. poyene poyene ( kotha jeevithalu) Idhayam poguthe(pudhia vArpugal)
22. paruvalu kani vini erugani (sathya) valayosai kala (sathya)
23.adharathri sadhumanigi (Rajkumar)
24 Nayaka vinayaka (amma evarikaina amma). Appaneappane(annai oru aalayam)
25. Nanuvve deepavali (nayakudu) Naan siritha Deepavali(Nayagan)
26.alasi pade kerataniki (asthulu anthsthulu) aarum athu aazhamilla
27.Radha radha raaradha (Chilipi Mogudu) Radha Radha (Meendum Kokila)
28.Ravaiya mamaiya (Badrakali) vangonna(Badrakali)
29. Badrakali Hari katha (Badrakali)
30. Naa kanti papa (Swati Chinukulu)
31.Love ante Love (Rakthabhishekham)
32.Karigipoyanu (Marana Mrudhangam)
33.Aade samayum edhile (CID Police) Aadum nerum (Soorasamharam)
34.sirimalle poola (Eetharam ellalu) Kasturi mane kalyana(puthmai penn)
35. Gummalu chinnadhi- Kunthiputhrudu
36. Laali (Balanagamma)
37.Champa debba (Varasudochadu)
38.Jikkinaga janakku (Varasudochadu)
39.Ee patane madhi (Mouna Geetham) – yea thendrale(Nenjathai killadhe)
40.Choosava andala maina (??? –a karthik movie)
41. ???? chinnari Chittibabu( Rani chandra starrer)
42. Mangalam ( Shri Shirdi Saibaba Mahatyam)
43. kaladaluneli ( pasidi moggalu)
44. Krishnaravela Meera (???) kanna varuvaaya(manathil uruthi vendum)

Kannada
1. marayatha harushada matthu thappadha magha

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
The following movies have PS songs. One who listen both the languages can help.
“ mayadhari krishnudu” (tel—anbukku nna adimai(tamil)
“amma evarikkaina amma”(tel – annai or aalayam(tamil)
“kaali (tel)—(kaali(tamil)
“munthanai mudichu”(tamil) –( tel. is by PS)
“nandhini(tamil)—title song is by PS
“sanga thamizh kaviye” (tamil “manathil uruthi vendum)

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai, Great effort Pal.....

Being a Teluguite, I learnt about some unheard songs done by the maestro....Thanks a lot....

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
pathiyila nattu katti pattu onu katti vachchaen naan poovayee(enga oru poovayee?) --- Gowthami, trouser starrer

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
kupps, it not engka ooru poovaaye. engka ooru kaavakaaran is right. what u hv mentioned is different and music scored by Deva.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kupps,
It is "aasaiyilae paatthi katti, naatthu onnu nattu vachaen, naan poovaayi" from Enga ooru kaavakkaaran.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai,
Kalakkiteenga, ponga!!!!! Hats off, dude!

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai: I would dispute those numbers posted in raajangham. That is not an offical count of Legend PS's colloboration with the Maestro. I always thought she contributed more than 225 songs under IR second after S Janaki and probably KSC who must be in the 800 range. Thanks for the info and lets keep revising the figures

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Hi kalai,
Great job!!!!!!!!
Keep it up and all the very best

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
One more Telugu Song in IR-PS combination:

Andarila Puttalede Andarila Edaga raade adagaku nannu jola pata padamani .... (Sithara, Sri Vidya Starrer... Don't remember the name of the movie).

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Hi Vicky
I hope the count will be nearer to 300. Hope we can collect. Between 1976-82 lot of songs were rendered by PS. We dont have much details on those days movies. So many were dubbed in telugu, ofcourse she could have rendered in telugu also.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
to guest
Is it from the movie "puthu puthu raagangal"?.
can you clarify?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
GR-aasyile Paathi katti -Is from Yenga ooru KaavalKaran MD-IR
What Man??
IR,SPS&Sunanantha have sung a Song in that Movie..Kallum Malayum Kudithu etc..

Mostly all Songs were by PS in that Movie
AAsayile Paathikatti-Solo,Duet with Mano
Malakarukalile Andha Malliga -Mano+PS
Arumbaagi mottagi -PS+Deepan Chakravarthy

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Raj, I know that IR is the MD for Engka Ooru Kaavakaaran.
There isone more movie called Engka Ooru Poovayee and MD is Deva. It is also ramarajan gowthami combination.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
enga ooru poovayinnu oru padama?

actualla naan type panrappa mis-fingering aagi enga ooru paattukkaaran-nai thaan enga ooru poovayinnu type panni tholachchaen, adha naanae ippa thaan paaththaen. adhu thaan ungaLa kanpees panniruchchaa...kadavuLae.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kupps, unga posting sirippaa irundhadhu, thanks! 'Enga ooru poovayinnu' oru padam vandhadhaa enna? Enga ooru Paattukkaaran-la Gouths peru 'Poovaayi'.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
manjolai kili thano, maan thano” – idhu Jayachandran paattu illa? Telugu-la eppadi PS paadiyirukka mudiyum? Vambaa irukke!

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
A slight digression to point a contrast in Suseela's voice:

annai thaalatu paada - awesome voice
chinna thaayavaL (telugu) - awful voice

Getting back...

Vaarthai Illaamal Oru Kadhai Sollavaa - Thunai IruppaaL Meenaatchi
Aasai Nenjin KanavugaL - PS & MV

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
chinna thaayavaL (telugu) - awful voice

Karthi-ya sonnaar...AAAng AAAng...irukkaadhu....
appadi edhuvum nadakkaadhu......

NAMBA MUDIYA VILLAIEE ILLAIEEEEE ILLAIEEEE.....

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
To karhti,
In telugu "manjolai kili thaano" is a duet and it is by SPB and PS. recently I have got this song from "ilayaraja telugu hits" casette. I am sure that it is by PS.
"Vaarthai Illaamal Oru Kadhai Sollavaa - Thunai IruppaaL Meenaatchi " -- thank you for this song.
"Aassi nenjin" is already in the list.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
GR:
athu enga ooru poovaayee illa, 'namma ooru poovaathaa'

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
M. athuvum thappa :-)) marathithaan. vayasahikitte pohutulla.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Hi karthi,
manjolai kili thano, maan thano song had the same tune in Telugu which was sung excellently by PS and SPB, music by IR the film is panchaboothalu.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Hi karthi

Have you noticed these songs.

1.kasthuri mane kalyana thene kacheri paadu ( pudhumai penn) –sunantha in tamil and PS in telugu
2.radha radha nee yenge, kannan enge naan ange – meendum kokila –SJ in tamil and PS in telugu
3.sangathamizh kaviye, santhangal sollum isai kuyile –manathil uruthi vendum—KSC in tamil and Ps in telugu.
4.Aarum athu aazhamille , athu serum kadalum aazhamille – (sathyaraj movie) and in telugu version it is by PS. (tamil it is a male version)
5.tham thana tham thana thhalam varum, puthu raagam varum –(pudhiya vaarpugal) –Jency in tamil and PS in telugu.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
what about the song, "en kanmani illa mangani, enna parthathum sirikindrathe", from chittu kuruvi by SPB + PS.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai,

"Aarum athu aazhamille , athu serum kadalum aazhamille" is from Muthal Vasantham. It also has a female version, sung by Uma Ramanan. Interestingly, this song is there in Malayalam also, sung by KJY. I happened to listen to the KJY version a few years back when I was tuning my radio !

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Hi raghu
It is in the list (49th song)
To vgs
Thnak you.It is really intersting.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
aadum neram idhuthan vaa vaa-Soorasamhaaram

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Hi Kalai;

Sorry, I did not realise that, excellent list, man, how on earth did u come up with such a list, here is an Impossible task, Can you provide us a list of SPB + IR combination, it is about 20,000 songs???

Thanks

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
kalai,
"Aarum athu aazhamille , athu serum kadalum aazhamille" male version is by IR in Tamil and KJY in Telugu. Looks like the female version has been given to PS in Telugu.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
"Aarum athu aazhamille , athu serum kadalum aazhamille" has both male & female versions in Tamil and Telugu. Therefore I would expect that a female version of this song also exists in Malayalam. Can somebody clarify whether such a song exists or not ? And if exists, is it by PS ?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
vgs, most likely it would be by SJ? :-)

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
isaiosai, it would be much better if somebody confirms it :-)

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
In ALAIGAL OIVADHILLAI Telugu version PS sings all songs but Aaiyeram thamarai mottugal by SJ
Naan siriuthal deepavali Telugu song by PS.
Many of IR'S late70s and early 80s in Telugu are by PS.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Aaiyeram thamarai mottugal in Telugu is by VJ (Ninnati sooridu)

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Hi Reddy ,
Alaigal Oivadhillai Telugu version Seethakoka chiluka had many songs by VJ except one by Ps and the other by SP sailaja.SJ didnt sing in it.
Regards

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Sindhunadhikkarai oram - Nallathoru Kudumbam (with TMS)
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/WW000D24

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Hi raghu
I have a list of 200 songs in SPB+PS combination. In "raajangahm.com", I got information as "spb sings around 1000 songs for IR". so many are missing, in worst case, we can find another 500 songs. Moreover, IR's movie count is around 800, and may another 200 dubbing movies can be taken into account. The songs count can be "5000 to 6000?". So, how can I find 20,000 songs. But, I wish, let the combination produce that many numbers of songs.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Hi isaiosai ,
Sindhu nadhikarai is already in the list (no.151). It is a good song.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
A request to reddy.
" munthanai mudichu"- telugu version has PS's songs. can you findout?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
kalai:

I say u have done a great job. Hats off to u!! I also saw your list of PS songs on some other thread. Also, many months ago u had posted a list of Carnatic based songs by PS in tel,tamil,mal,kannada on a thread "p susheela solos", when i had asked for the same.

U seem to be a knowledgeable PS admirer.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
To AVR,
Thanks. The amount of interest you are showing on southern artists is really appreciable. I used to read your postings from other threads, and they are very informative.keep it up.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
kalai:

May I have ur email id. If u do not wish to give it, fine - no probs. But its nice to see a person who admires an artist genuinely without ever trying to degrade another artist.

Send me a mail and I'll write back.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
To avr
Thnak you. No problem.
kalai@uisdl.com

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai, andha PS telugu list-Oda links thara mudiyumaa?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Hi karthi
Give me sometime. I will post it.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
PS was awesome in the song "paada vandhadhor" in ilamai kaalangal. listen to the initial "la laa laa". She is amazingly sweet in that song.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
s0 : during that period, I remembered a question -answer from the weekly "kalkandu"
Question : P.susheela ?
Answer : vayathu era era, kuralil inimayum erugirathu !.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
s0 ,
In the Same Film another song is there
"Raagavane Ramana Ragunatha"

Her voice Is so Sweet & Perfect For that Song

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
These songs are available in raaga.com
kalaya nijama ---coolie no1--PS,Ilayaraja
ada janmaku -- dalapathi --PS
college aqeil0 -- Indrdu chandrudu -- PS,SPB
saagara sangamame -- seetakoka chiluka --PS
siva poojakku --swarnakamalam -- SPB,PS
http://www.raaga.com/channels/telugu/singersdetail.asp?cast=Susheela (http://www.raaga.com/channels/telugu/singersdetail.asp?cast=Susheela
)

Few songs I have got from musicindiaonline.com
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/s/?q=p.susheela&c=030C&n=10 (http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/s/?q=p.susheela&c=030C&n=10
)

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
thanks raj and kalai. Her sweet voice is just too much. In the days of MSV, KVM, GR.. the songs were totally singer-dominated (as opposed to the instrument/sound dominated songs that TFM has now evolved to - nothing wrong IMO). Hence, it is highly important for singers to be exceptional. If you consider that, you really begin to adore/worship PS, PBS and others and look at them in renewed respect.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Which movie does the song "Un nenjchath thottu chollu raasa en mel aasa illaiy?" belong to? Also how about the song "Yele Ilangkilliye"?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Un nenja thottu is from Rajathi raja casette and it is not in movie. Yele ilankiliye is from ninaivu chinnam. both are in list (46,186)

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
has anyone heard the song "thathedutha muthu pillai yaaro.... aala marathadi thedi amarndhavar thano.." in "Rettai vaal kuruvi"? It was sung by Susheela along with chitra. The song was to be sung in film by Radhika and Archana. But unfortunately the song was not in picture.

It is a lovely song... !

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
There is an error in the information provided by
raaga.com. I.e the song "Vedham Anuvanuvuna" from the film Saagara Sangamam (music by Illayaraja). In fact, PS did not sing even 1 song in that film and this song was sung by Janaki & SPB which came out as "idhu mounamana neeram" in the Tamil version "Salangai oli" of "Sagara sangamam".

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Vedham Anuvanuvana naadahm is sung SPB ans SP shailaja.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
These telugu movies have the songs of IR+PS combination.
“ mayadhari krishnudu” (tel—anbukku nna adimai(tamil)
“amma evarikkaina amma”(tel – annai or aalayam(tamil)
“kaali (tel)—(kaali(tamil)
“munthanai mudichu”(tamil) –-( tel. is by PS)
“nandhini(tamil)—title song is by PS
“sanga thamizh kaviye” (tamil)-- “manathil uruthi vendum) . telugu is by PS.
I think some telugu fans of PS and IR can help!!??

Till now we have identified 193 tamil songs, 45 tel songs and 1 kannada song in IR+PS combo(total 239).

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
KAtti karumbe kanna in tamil was by VJ from Samsaram Adhu minsaram

In telegu it was by Ps for Suhasini

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
but the MD was SG
Sorry For the Mistake

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
"Viziyil En Viziyil Oru Poo Poothatho" from Ram Lakshman is a duet by SPB-PS.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
" Ada chonnare ellorum ullasam kondada" a song from "vattathukkul chaduram". Latha is the actress. Is it by PS?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Some more from PS with IR combination

"malargalil adum ilamai pudumaiy" in Telugu version of Kalyanaraman. It was sung by Sailaja in Tamil version

"thamtanam thana thalam varum" in telugu version. Sung along with janaki. Orginal tamil version was by Jensi and B.Vasantha. Telugu version was with western band and so it was not appealing much.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
There is a patho duet by PS-MV in "Mannuketha Ponnu". It is very good song. All songs are proper blend of MSV's and IR's styles. Who is the MD?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
I guess it is by Gangai amaran

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
subbu, i too guess the same. i hv posted the same query in some other thread. let me confirm by checking that thread.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Can I get the link for “naanoru sindhu, kavadi sindhu” - sindhu bhairavi (sung by PS in Telugu and chitra in tamil)

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
another excellent PS-IR combination for the movie "Chinnathayee"... the song is "Arumbarumba saram thodutha azhagu malar maalai idhu.. aaraaro"... can someone post/send the lyrics for this piece?
same with "Karpoora bommai ondru" (Keladi kanmani)

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Vj -Excellent Songs

@ the Same period more songs Yele Ilangkiliye & dhoori Dhoori, Kalai thendral were Great

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
"Nenoka sindhu katuka cinde " tel version of naan oru sindhu, link is
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/s/?q=nen&c=030C&n=20

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai: The musicindiaonline is not working lately. It says the web site is experiencing some difficulties. Do you guys get the same maessage when you log on to the website.....

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Lyrics of "Arumbarumba" song

Arumbarumba saram thodutha azhagu malar maalai idhu.. aaraaro
Tharayinile thavzhnthu vantha thanga nila neniyithu ..aaraaro
Magale nee mayangathe, mani vizhiye kalangathe..
Poo choodum mani poonthere, koothadum pasum paalare –( arumbarumba)

Oruvan isayinile viritha valayinile irayaga naan vizhunthene
Manathin inangalayum maarum nirangalayum ariyamal naan irunthene
Nanjai vida kodithu aandavanin manathu,
annai ithai arinthal allal patta piragu
Yemanthal thayum enai pola neeyum,
Asai vaikathe pinbu avathipadathe..(arumbarumba)

Puthiya thalaimuraye valarum ilam piraye theyamal vaazhnthidu neeye
Ilamai thalai virikka enaye vilai koduthu madi meethu vaangiya seiye
Unnai vida enakku sothu sugham ethukku,
Inthe uyir udalil unnai nimbi irukku
Naam vaazhum kaalam ilavenil kaalam
maaridum naalum chiru maathulam poove… (arumbarumba)

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Vicky
Now it is OK

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
kalai nanjai vida kodithu aadavanin(male) manadhu

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
thx kalai for "arumbarumba".. :-)

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai, I also tried the link. No luck. I am really eager to listen to the telugu version (sung by PS). Pl help.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Great Job Folks !!! The song "Arumarumba Saram" from the movie Chinna Thayee is a master piece of Maestro and P.Susheela's combination,it's a sad song with melancholy,which can stir up your emotion when you involve yourself with that song.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Karpoora Bommai ontru, Kai veesum thendral ontru
KalanthAda kai korkkum neram, Kannoram Anantha Eeram,
Muthe en mutharame sabayerum paadal nee paadamma, nee paadamma

Poontherile Nee aadave undana anbe oru raajangahm
Raajangame aananthame, nam veedu inge oru sangeetham
Mane un vaarthai reengaaram
Malare en nenjil nintradum
sothe en mutharame sabayerum paadal nee paadamma..nee paadamma

Thayanbukku eedethamma , Agayam kooda athu pol aahathu
Thai pola yaar vanthAlume, un thayai pole athu Ahathu
En moochil vaazhum pullankuzhal
Un pechu naalum chenthen kuzhal
Muthe en mutharame sabayerum paadal nee paadamma, nee paadamma

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
excellent Lyric by Vaali
good job kalai

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Raghavan
" Poonkaathe Antha ponnukitta enna kondu pO..Thaniya ava illama nencham vaaduthu" Is it the song from "mannukketha ponnu"?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
I think "karpoora bommai ontru" is by metha and this is one of his fav.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai, the link for telugu version of naan oru sindhu, is still not working.. any problem? If any other site provides this, pl let me know.
Thanks

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Subbu
I dont have any other link. I keep trying.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
no kalai Karpoora bommai is by Vaali

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
"Muthumani maalai" - Chinna Koundar.. a masterpiece in melody by IR-PS(SPB) combination

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Manadhile Oru paatu is another Fantastic song by SPB+Ps Under IR's music

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
There's another song by PS/SPB from the movie Mella Thiranthadu Kadavu composed by IR/MSV, but still could be added under IR.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
wow Vicky It's an Excellent Song "Dhil Dhil dhil Manadhil "

wow -Malai idamal Vasantham Varadhu velai varamal pen unnai thodadhu-What a rendition by PS

EXcellent

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai, the link you gave for the telugu version of "nnanoru sindhu kaavdi chindu" is not working. Do you have another working link? Pl help.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
did you try this link.
Try this link.
"NAnoru sindhu" telugu
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/mailsong/index.cgi/3c9cf81c9f0c0000 (http://www.musicindiaonline.com/mailsong/index.cgi/3c9cf81c9f0c0000
)
I could listen the song using the same link

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
"Atha magan muthazhagan arumbu meesai kattazhagan" -- Sainthadamma sainthadu

One of this thread I have read "Vaadiamma Ponmagale vantha idam nall idam" is a IR+Ps combination song. pl. clarify.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Only today I could go through this thread. Kalai, I really appreciate you for your sincere efforts in listing PS songs (to the delight of all PS fans). Great Job!!

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
“manjolai kili thano, maan thano" was sung by Jeyachandran in Tamil. How the same was sung by PS in telugu version... Sudhkar character-aa telugu-la poNNa maathittaangaLa? :-)

Ok, which file was it in Telugu and for who PS sung?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
“manjolai kili thano, maan thano" was sung by Jeyachandran in Tamil. How the same was sung by PS in telugu version... Sudhkar character-aa telugu-la poNNa maathittaangaLa? :-)

Ok, which file was it in Telugu and for who PS sung?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai, when I click the link http://www.musicindiaonline.com/mailsong/index.cgi/3c9cf81c9f0c0000, it goes to Musicindiaonline.com and ask for "selection of song". Then it comes with another window. Thenit gets stuck. Am really curious to listen to that song. Please get me the link which works.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
"Manjolai Kilai thano" is a duet in telugu. SPB and PS are the singers. PS - base voice romba nalla irukku. Tamil-la humming illa. Telugu-la PS-in superb humming irukku.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
When we talk about PS - IR combo, I want to ventilate my feelings on how PS was brought down to a lower level. i.e., She was asked to sing unworthy, non-important, insignificant songs etc.

1. In Pagal Nilavu: There was a song sung by Jeyachandran. It was for Sarath Babu. I don't remember the song. In that there were only 2 lines sung by PS (I remember 2 words "aNNaN thanadi"). In addition, here name was not shown in the title.
2. In Dharmathin Thalaivan, "Then madurai Vaigai nadhi", SPB is for full song, MV for 1 line and PS for 3 lines. PS repeats this for pathos mood also. It it worth?
3. In "Magudi", a third rated song "Dhinamum kalyanam dhinamum kacheri" for Vadivukkarasi. I don't how PS accepted the song.
4. In many movies, PS will be for one song which is not for the heroine(Adutha varisu for Silk, in Muthu engal soththu, "malligai poo..." song in a Ramarajan film for Anuradha). These songs are not of great calibre.
5. In Karpoora mullai, her name was shown next to Chitra.
6. In Nayagan, she sung for a group dancer for the song "andhi mazhai megam"
7. In a Suhasini movie "Gopurangal saivadhillai"... she sung for a Junior artist "vaadi samanja pulla".
8. In Gayathri, she sang for Raji (another 3rd rated song).

I am really surpised to see how PS accepted these songs. For her calibre, she could have rejected these offers.

ARR also gave her bits... in Duet and Indian. Should PS take these offers?

The above are out of my personal feelings... But the MDs like IR had tried their best to bring down Ps' image like anything, which is not fair.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Once TMS told “IR given me chances initially to get the opertunities in shivaji movies”. Another interview PS told “Devar uyirodu iruntha varai ennai than paada vaithar”. Like that she was the permanent singer for AVM, shivaji movies, satya movies like many. So, in the initial stages IR was using them as a ladder to catch the market. Most of PS songs with IR is before 1982. You can notice more IR+PS songs from AVM, devar films, sathya movies, shivaji movies. Like that some more song she might have got because of producers and directors. After ’82 IR got the complete hold in Industry and things got changed .
Before 80’s If there is four Female songs, PS used to sing for the main heroine and others will be for the second heroine. IR pulls PS down to second heroine level from “kaviKuyil”. “naanum oru thozhlali”,”Gayatri”, “ninaivellam nithya”, “nayagan”, “vazhkai”, “ Adutha varisu” “chinnappadas” “magudi” like many more movies.
Next, Title card. Few movies like, “kaakiChattai” her name was not there in title. Few movies her name was pushed down to second.
PS has a standard and she didn’t do many third class songs in TFM. But, “thinamum kalyanam” from magudi and “malliyapoo kattilile” from “enna petha rasa” are not in PS standards. The good songs of magudi was sung by other singer.
Before also she did songs with other female singers. But she will be having another solo or duet in the same movie. But see this movies “Rettai vaal kuruvi”, “kai kodukkum kai”, “kanne radha”, “ raajthi raja” …She got only one song that too shared with others.
One way to reduce the market is remove them form good banners, movies of top heroes, remove from top directors like …. He did it to PS
She never complained anything about IR or other MD’s. But we could make out how much of insult ( may be indirectly) she could have faced in the Industry. That’s why she might have decided to quit the Industry.
Now IR group also lost the market and they are facing the same scenes from the younger generation .It is a known fact that, “IR is not recognized properly”, same as PS. They have pulled down the previous generation legends, when they got the hold. The previous generation legends are TMS,PBS,PS,LRE. Only PS survived for more time and she could manage to sing 275-300 songs in IR’s music.
Sometime they act like a biggest admirers of PS. It is very difficult to believe.
We are the losers.... we are really missing her honey like voice..

Subbu.. few corrections

1. Pagal nilavu song "poovile medai naan podava"
2. "Thinamum kalyanam" is for sreepriya
3. "Malligai Poo kattilile" is for rupini.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
kalai,

I am fully in agreement with you that sometime IR and his brother act as if they are loyal to PS. In 'suseela 50' prog,, Gangai amaran has presented her some 15 soverign gold chain and said that they have the photograph of PS which was published in the cover of Bommai magazine. All those people act smart. But am happy to note that there are many people, fans and friends who still admire PS. That's enough for her.

Thanks for your correction # 1 & 3. But correction # 2, it is Vadivukkari (Dhinamum kalyanam song). Fyi, I saw that horrible movie "Magudi". Vadivukkarasi acted as step-sister for Mohan.

Thanks Kalai.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai,

“manjolai kili thano, maan thano" was sung by Jeyachandran in Tamil. How the same was sung by PS in telugu version...

Ok, which file was it in Telugu and for who PS sung?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
kavvinje kallalo----(pancha Bhoothalu) . I have the song. It is one of ilayaraja's tel. hits casettes. Same casette I have listened "ilage, ilage " --( ore naal unai naan nilavil paarthathu---VJ in tamil)

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai,

PL send to my id the following links (telugu version), the songs sung by PS

1. Naanoru sindhu kaavadi chindu
2. Maanjolai kili dhaano
3. Ore naal unai naan

Thanks for your help in advance

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
"Ore Naal Unai naan" link
http://www.chakri.co.uk/mds/Ilayaraaja13.html (http://www.chakri.co.uk/mds/Ilayaraaja13.html
)

"Mancholai kili thano" I will have conevert. Give me some ttime.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Thanks Kalai.

yeah you take time and give me the link for "maancholai kilidhaano". Also give the working link for "Naanoru sindhu" (telugu)

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Hi subbu &kalai,
Ps is really very great!!!
She is a real professional.She accepted success and failure with the same dignity.
Who else has such an composure?
I think for MD's who did like that to PS,the proverb is U reap what you sow.
She is a Great Lady!!!!

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
yah she is GREAT lady
but now a GREAT singer

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
A personal grievance:

If we mention our mail-id here, I guess that is giving trouble.

Someone started sending anonymous mails to me. It was not of good taste.

So, friends, please be careful.

Request those people to refrain from doing so.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Subbu..
immatured guys... ignore it

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Hi subbu,
U are right.
I too got such mails.
Better be careful

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
In the film Thunaiyiruppal meenakshi, there were 2 songs sung by PS

1. Solo "Sugamo aayiram uravo kaaviyam".
2. Another, I guess, with SJ. Can anyone confirm this? And pl tell me the starting line.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Subbu..
I remember One more song "Vaarthai illamal Oru kavidhai sollava" from "Thunaiyiruppal meenakshi."

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Yes Kalai, u r correct. It is like this "Vaarthai illamal oru kavi paadava.. Artham illamal naan kadhai sollava..ammamma. aaaa... neerindri... oru nadhi odudhu.. andha nadhiyile sila padag(u) aadudhu".

In one more film (Mariamman thriuvizha endru ninaikiren). Sivakumar and Meera jodi. Sujatha also acted in a main role (I think she is "anni" of Sivakumar). There were 2 songs by PS (One solo and another with SJ). Do you know what are they? MD is IR.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Subbu...
"Thanga Kudathukku pottum itten " - PS solo from Maariyamman thiruvizha
"Athadi atha" is with SJ. I couldnt recollect the lyrics.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
kalai Did u Get my mail
Very Sorry that In couldnt Meet u..

One More B'ful song Karthik,Sripriya
sripriya acted as sis in law to Karthik

the song goes Anniye Annayai ...SPB+Ps
Paasam Pongum Roobam

Very Nice Song

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Thank you Raj.
It's OK.
Do you mean this song ?
" Koil deivam nee, thentral nee, paasam pongum roopam"--from Nianivugal. MD is Shangar-ganesh, I think.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
oh ok Kalai

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai,

do u know wh acted for that PS-SJ song in Mariamman thiruvizha? (Is it sujatha + meera?)

who paired with sujatha?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
I have that songs. no idwa about the actress.
one sripriya starrer movie "Odi vilayadu thatha" has one Ps song. do you remember ?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
It starts with tye title "odi vilayadu thatha"... don remmeber the rest of the lyric..

One more from sripriya's film (vayilla poochi) but MD by SG (i guess)... sripriya criticise pramila... the song starts with "maadiyil kudiyirukkkum mangamma.. mannadhi mannarellam engamma..", was a nice song

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
How about NAdhiyoram from Annai or alayam, (SPB + PS + IR)?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Have you heard this song...?

Vaadiyamma malliga poo
Vandha idam nalla idam
Raani Magal... vaa vaa vaa

Sung by SPB+PS under IR (MD) for the film "Paalooti vaLartha KiLi". Vijayakumar and Sripriya acted. But this song was for Manorama. Our IR used the great PS for Manorama (Vayitherichal)... U no, this was IR's second film after AnnaKiLi.

One more film, IR music... song by SPB + PS.. it was for YG Mahendran and Silk Smitha. Anybody remember that song and movie...?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
" vaadiamma " was the song I was looking for. Thank you for the details.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Subbu, what is wrong in singing for Manorama? Think in the other way. She can sing for Manorama also. Do u remember "Isaiyarasi Ennalum Naane" song? In that PS sings for goddes(KRVijaya) and SJ sings for Devotee(Saritha). Moreover I dont think the MDs are always told about the screen performers.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
GR... oru aadhangam dhaan... Otherwise it depends on the complexity of the song and how the singer sings that...

But in that "Paalooti..." film, other class songs (onnodu onnu en nejodu onnu... kola kolaya mundirikka... + one duet with SPB), was given to SJ.

Sometimes I got this feeling that IR tried to break the practice that "PS for heroine" and "Others for 2nd heroine...". He did it in many films...

No hard feelings otherwise..

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
I agree with you, subbu!

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Subbu, that is what called as "Trend Change". SJ was IR's favorite choice till early 90s.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
I didnt know that PS sung for manorama. If that is true it should indeed be a great honor for both of them. Manorama is the evergreen actress of tamil cinema and has etched her name in the guiness book of world records ( not that this really matters).

I always had the feeling that IR made PS sing songs which has raja in it.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
" trend change".!? I agree.. IR was the person, who changed the trend ( film music). He didnt use PS much in his movies. She was the person, who was a like a queen in TFM. After the trend change she was made to sing for second heroines, some third rated songs etc...

I agree with you ..subbu.

The same "trend change" took place in north also. Did they neglect lata or asha? What our people acheived, by ignoring the legend PS?. Nothing... We coulnt find a better singer than PS, even now...
We are shouting like "our people are not recognised by central govt." First we should learn to respect our own people.. If she was not pulled down... we could have been the people, who are more prouded because of her acheivements and awards.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
All said and done, though SJ was Illayaraja's favourite, he did give PS so many lovely songs especially in the early years. Can we ever forget the timeless magic of solos like Thenil aadum roja (Avar enakke sondham), Kannan enna sonnan (Saaindhadamma saaindhaadu), Sugamo aayiram (thunai iruppal Meenakshi), Sondham illai (Annakili), Raja chinna raja (Poonthalir), Unnai nambi nethiyle (Chittukuruvi), kettele ange (Badrakali), Ondudu ondraaga(Anbukku naan adimai),
Moga sangeetham(Kannan oru kai kuzhandhai),Maane oru (Kadal meengal, Dhinam dhinam (Idhu eppadi irukku)---not to speak of so many unforgettable duets

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Whatever u say Saravanan... it was notfair on IR's part..

U know he tried his best to bring down PS to 2nd level. Ex: In Nadhiyai thedi vandha kadal, there were 2 heroines.. jayalalitha and Fatafat jayalakshmi. All songs for our CM was sung by Sailaja (it was terribly unsync voice for jayakka), whereas the songs by PS for Fatafat. Am not saying PS should not sing for Fatafat. But in many cases/songs, IR tried to put down PS somehow. This is my personal vayitherichal.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Subbu, are you sure "Engeyo etho pattondru ketten" was picturised on Fadafat?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Yes saravana, it was by Fatafat and sarat babu.. Fatafatis a patient in that film and fantasise that she sings the song with him.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Subbu, thanks for the confirmation. BTW, all songs in Nadhiyai thedi vandha kadal were good.If you can just forget that it is JJ on screen, SP Shailaja too has done a good job in Poonthottam and Thavikku thayanguthu oru manathu. The PS-SPS song- Varaatha kaalangal is an unforgettable one!
I do agree that PS would have been more suitable for JJ.

Again Subbu, while I too share your PS worship, I don't feel so strongly about Illayaraja trying to put down PS etc. PS did have a glorious uninterrupted reign for around 15-16 years, when she was literally, the only female singer in Tamil films.

I feel that there shouldn't be a monoploly by anyone at any time. Variety is the spice of life, and film music too. In the 50s, each film had songs by a variety of singers. This was the trend till 1960. Even in the late 50s, each film had many singers. For eg: Thai pirandhaal vazhi pirakkum had P Leela, MS Rajeswari, R Balasaraswathi and Jamunarani. Padikkatha Medhai had songs by P Leela, PS, Jamunarani, MSR and Soolamangalam Rajalashmi. Konjum Salangai had PL, Soolamangalam Rajalakshmi, SJ, (Radha) Jayalakshmi etc.

However with MSV-TKR rising high, they slowly brought in the trend of PS singing all the songs, maybe giving one song out of 6 to LRE or rarely SJ. The other MD who was the only other force to reckon with in the 60s, KVM had no other option but to follow suit. I agree that the 60s gave tfm many of its best songs, but we were unfortunate to lose some great voices, who were totally eclipsed by this PS wave, and were sent home- Jikki (AMR too was partly to blame for her exile), Jamunarani, P Leela, Soolamangalam Rajalakshmi, (Radha) Jayalakshmi and Balasaraswathi come to mind in this connection.
Only SJ managed to wait in the shadows, singing a few songs every now and then, and reappear with a bang with Illayaraja.

Mind you, Illayaraja was not so loyal to SJ as MSV was to PS. Right from Annakili, he gave superb songs to other female singers also besides SJ. While I agree that SJ was his favourite, he gave opportunities to PS, VJ, BSS, Jency, SPS, Sujatha, Uma Ramanan etc. In fact you'll find very few Illayaraja films where SJ was the only female singer! And in fact in many of his memorable films (even in the early years), SJ didn't have a single song- for example, Rosappu Ravikkari, Illamai Oonjaladukirathu, Azhage unnai
aaradhikkiren, Mullum Malarum, Annai or alayam,Avar enakke sondham, Naan vazhavaippen, Nallathoru Kudumbam, Poonthalir, Ponnu oorukku pudhusu, Nadhiyai thedi vandha kadal, Kannan oru kai kuzhandai, Saaindhadamma saaindhaadu--

So,it wasn't really so unfair as it seems. And there were actually some films where Illayaraja gave PS the best songs and gave SJ some pedestrian ones- like Badrakali, Thunai iruppal Meenakshi, Pen Jenmam, Aalukkoru aasai, Chittukuruvi, Mariamman Thiruvizha--

So cheer up- everyone has his/her time and we have so many great PS songs which have immortalised her-- so need for any vayitherichal!

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Oops- I seem to have slipped up- Illamai oonjaladukirathu had one song by SJ- Kinnathil then vadithu--

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Excellent post from Saravanan....objective thinking such as that is what we need at this time. And guys, what about the beautiful telugu songs that PS sung under IR's baton (some are mentioned in the title post)...one song which every PS fan should listen to in telugu is "kalayaa nijamaa" from coolie no.1 in which IR himself sang with PS. I don't have words to describe the beauty of the song and the way PS sang it.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
To all PS fans, PS is the no. 1 female singer in Telugu till 1990-1991. The monopoly was continuing from 1950s to 1990s. For 40 years - this is something nobody can claim to have achieved. And, she has won two consecutive National Awards in 1980s, the period where IR is reigning supreme. PS has not come down in anyway by not getting more chances to sing under IR.

If anybody listens to "rasathi xxxx" from "Vaidehi ...." in Tamil and the Telugu equivalant "Jabilli Kosam...." by SJ, people will know why PS is great.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Saravanan and Kaumudi -

That was a nice post. I agree - SJ is every bit as good and dedicated a singer as PS - in every respect.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai One more song in IR & PS combo

Iyarkkai Rathangale
Ulagai Marakkum Manangaley
Thinam Inipathana Idathai Nokki
Parakka Vidungale Kalakka Vidungale
Suvaikka Vidungale

From the movie Vaazha Ninaiththal Vaazhalaam(1978)
Sung by TMS and P.Susheela.
Lyrics by Kannadasan.

Thanks
rara

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
hey there were 2 TMS+PS duets in Nalladhoru kudumbam. One is "sindhu nadhi karai Oram andhi nearm". Another one????? In that PS sung only one paa.. anyone can recollect the startinng line...?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Hi kaumudi
45 tel. songs are already mentioned in this thread. If possible throw some more lights on tel songs under PS+IR combo.
“ mayadhari krishnudu” --(tel)—anbukku naan adimai(tamil)
“amma evarikkaina amma”--(tel) – annai oru aalayam(tamil)
“kaali (tel)—-kaali(tamil)
“munthanai mudichu”-(tamil) –( tel. is by PS)
“nandhini(tamil)—tel ver title song is by PS
“sanga thamizh kaviye”--(tamil song)--manathil uruthi vendum). Tel is by PS.
Can you findout the tel version of these songs?

One of the PS fans Vidya helped me to identify all these tel. songs. Thank you very much Vidya!

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
In the initial list 192 Tamil songs are mentioned under PS+IR combo. 5 more songs we could identify thru this thread
Vaarthai Illaamal Oru Kadhai Sollavaa - Thunai IruppaaL Meenaatchi
Atha magan muthazhagan arumbu meesai kattazhagan" -- Sainthadamma sainthadu
Vaadiyamma malliga poo Vandha idam nalla idam – Palooti Valartha kili
Dhinam dhinam (Idhu eppadi irukku)
Iyarkkai Rathangale Ulagai Marakkum --Vaazha Ninaiththal Vaazhalaam(1978)
Try to make it round !!!(200)

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai,

Can you pl send me the link for
“sanga thamizh kaviye” -- manathil uruthi vendum, Telugu version of PS

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
hey there were 2 TMS+PS duets in Nalladhoru kudumbam. One is "sindhu nadhi karai Oram andhi nearm". Another one????? In that PS sung only one paa.. anyone can recollect the startinng line...?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Subbu, I think the Nallathoru Kudumbam song is Kanna un leela vinodam, though I'm not sure.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai, I didn't know that you had compiled 192 PS-Illayaraja songs. Only after seeing your recent post, I went back and saw it. Wow-great effort!
Some points:

1. You have mentioned 2 PS songs from Saatchi- 5 and 166. Saatchi had music by Shankar Ganesh.
2.Akka oru rasathi-20- is by Jency, with Jayachandran.
3.Aval oru thaniragam-54 &108- Are you sure it by IR? I don't think so.
4.Manuuketha ponnu-133-MD is Gangaiamaran.
5.Poonthottam-126-Nadiyai thedi vandha kadal is by SP Shailaja.
6.Muthamizh charame-97-Vetrikku oruvan is by SP Shailaja.
7.Muthamma-99-Thanduvitten ennai is by Uma Ramanan
8.Vada malliye-175-Kannukku mai ezhuthu is by Banumathi and BSS. Is there a PS version as well?
9. Is there a song called Ponnoviam in Annai or alayam?-125
10. Is there a song by PS in Murattu kaalai?-191
11.Some repetitions: 8 & 10, 24 & 32,106 & 110,107 & 112,124 & 138.
12.You can add Naan oru ponnoviam- Kannil theriyum kathaigal, and of course, the other songs which you have mentioned recently. Also please include Kanna un leela vinodam from Nallathoru kudumbam.

Thank you once again for compiling such an exhaustive list.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai
I have tried hard in the past couple of days to find out the telugu version of songs of mundaanai mudichu, nandhini and the song sanga thamizh kaviyae, but in vain. Especially the song "sanga thamizh", I know I've heard the telugu version in PS's voice, just can't recollect which movie it is from. Sorry about that.


But the good news is, I have a couple more songs to add to the list of telugu songs.
1. Thaene kanna theeyanidi....Rajkumar....PS and SPB
2. Naa raagamae tholi paatai paadaenae....Mounageetham....PS
3. Manasae vellenae...Kottha jeevithaalu...PS
4. Adigaave akkada...Bhadrakaali....PS
5. Aem vaano thaduputhunnadi....rakthaabhishekam??....PS and SPB...I think the tamil version of this song is "Naan thaedum sevvandhi poovidhuy

I've never heard the tel version of "valayosai" from sathya....wonder where I can find on the net.

Anyway, that's all for now. I shall add to the list as and when I find/hear a new song.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kaumudi,

5. Aem vaano MD is KVM. Rakthaabhishekam MD is IR but KVM used this tune in some other movie which had Balakrishna as hero.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kaumudi,
Can u plz post the Tamil equivalent song against each telugu song? :-)

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai,

In case you have not included earlier...a gem of a melody.
Janaki Kalaganalaedhu - RajKumar - PS, SPB.
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/XY00000H0V

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Another link for the same song: http://www.ramaneeya.com/rams/new_may/nr/rajk_janaki.ram

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Isaiosai: Kalai had listed this song as "Ramudu kalaganaledu" in the initial 44-song list.

"KVM used this tune in some other movie which had Balakrishna as hero".....that's surprising!! Anyway, thanks for the correction.

Subbu: I will try to post the Tamil equivalent of these songs...I just need some time.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kaumudi,

Thanks for validating that it has already been listed.
KVM had used few tunes and interludes of IR with minor changes during 80s. One that I can think of right now is the Raaghavanae Ramana Raghunaadha song. Can't recollect the Telugu movie/song though.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Subbu
I have tamil equivalents for two of the four songs. Both of them are available on musicindiaonline.com. Maybe isaiosai/vidya can help us with the other two songs.

1. Thaene kanna theeyanidi....Rajkumar....PS and SPB------No idea!!
2. Naa raagamae tholi paatai paadaenae....Mounageetham....PS------Yeh thendralae ini naanum paadavaa (Nenjatthai killaadhae)
3. Manasae vellenae...Kottha jeevithaalu...PS-----No idea!!
4. Adigaave akkada...Bhadrakaali....PS-----Kaettaelae Angae (Bhadrakali)

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Thank you Kaumudi!
"Kottha jeevithalu" is remake of "Pudhiya vaarpugal"--may be "Idhayam Poghuthe" song.

Saravanan:
Thank you for the corrctions.
The Climax song in"murattuKaalai" is PS & MVD.
" Ponnovium" song is by PS.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
kalai, check maadi.. on "ponnoviyam" from "annai or aalayam".. could be from a different film..

where is the original list.. has it been deleted from the post.. did you include "karpoora mullai" film songs (Poongaviyam... one solo + another with KJY+KSC)?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Subbu
Ya... it is a mistake.
List is available in the 1st page.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
In Badrakali tamil version PS had two songs " kannan oru" and "Vaangonna". But in tel. one more song for PS,which is a harikatha type of song and sung by MRVijaya(?) in tamil.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
"Valayosai" tel. version starts like this.

SPB: paruvalu kani vini erugani cheragani tharagani
kavithalu palike mooga kallalo
PS:jalatharu tholakari gadasari valapula thalapulu
theriche prema veedhilo
I dont know the movie name. "something like ...arjuna..

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai, you are right, it is M R Vijaya in tamil- she appears on screen as well- the only song which she sang in IR's music

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai
Do you know if the sathya song (telugu version) is available on the net somewhere? I am interested in
a) how PS fared in this song?
b) how the lyrics came along, given that it is a dubbing song.

From the few lines that you mentioned, it seems like the song has some nice imaginative lyrics (I don't know if you understand telugu).

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai, am also curious to listen to the "Valayosai" (telugu version)...

Tamil version, though the tune was different with fast beat, the words were not with "beauty".. at last it was like "dubba la kalla pottu kulukkina pola".

Await to listen how beautiful the telugu version is.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Twice I listened this song in some tel. channel. PS did it very well . I dont have that song. I will try .

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Thank you "Kaumudi" for your sincere efforts.
"Eetharam ellalu" is a remake or dubiing of "pudhumai penn" in which all songs are sung by PS.
"Kasturi maane kalyane thene" is one of those songs(sirimalle poola singara vella ). Can you try for the other songs?

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
Kalai
Let me try for the "Etharam illaalu" songs. I did not know about this movie until you mentioned it.

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6th June 2005, 10:27 AM
I don't know if this rare song has been discussed before:
The song goes like this, "Sandanam Ittu Sathiraadum Mottu Mozhithenin Sottu" from the film, "Rusi KaNda Poonai"

The song has an unusual rhythm, which compliments the well-written lyrics so well. The interludes with their vintage Raaja violin arrangements, subtle and effective use of veena and flute are just AMAZING!

It's an excellent old composition of IR, and P. Susheela does a great job rendering this lullaby. She infuses so much emotions and added the right 'azhuthams' and 'bhaavam's into this sweet number that you hit the rewind button again and again!
Wonder why this excellent song never received the attention it so well deserves!
Can somebody help identify the lyricist please?
Thanks.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Peter.. no doubt it was due to poor show of the film "Rusi...".. an utter flop. But many failed films were with popular songs..

One more.. in the same film SJ' child voice song "kaNNa nee enge" was made very popular and this "sandhanamittu" did submerged..

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Can any1 guess this?

Muthuraman, prameela and sumitra acted.. (n that film Prameela cheats ger busband MR. Sumitra becomes a christian nun.

there was two hit numbers

1. By PS "Annai Marry unnai andri aarudhalai yaar tharuvaar"
2. By TMS and dialogues by Prameela
My questions:

1. What is the film name
2. what is that song by TMS & Prameela

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Peter Pan, no doubt "Sandanam ittu" is a superb song. As Subbu has pointed out, the song didn't create waves because of SJ's immensely appealing "Kanna nee engey", for which, incidentally, SJ was the lyricist as well! In fact, I remember seeing the record of the film, on the cover which there is a photograph of SJ!
(I don't know if any other singer has been similarly honoured). Is there any wonder that in the midst of this SJ hosanna, PS' lovely "Sandhanamittu" went unnoticed--?

Subbu, the film you are referring to is "Paavathin Sambalam" (1978). It also had Rajinikanth in a guest appearance. I am sorry that I don't remember the song by TMS and Pramila.
PS' 'Annai Mary unnai andri aarudhalai yaar tharuvaar, kannirandil neer perugum kaaranathai nee arivaai--' lingers on in memory, though.
(MD-SG?).
BTW, the very mention of TMS and dialogues by Pramila immediately brings to mind the 'Sodhanai mel sodhanai' number from Thangapadhakkam!!

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Kalai,

Did you include the following two songs of PS+Ir combo??

1. Poonthendral katre vaa vaa
Adhil serndhaadum paate vaa vaa

Sung by PS + PJ from "Manjal Nila" (I guess)
Actors: Suresh & Kala Ranjani (sister of Oorvasi & Kalpana)

2. Azhage azhage...kalam muzhdhum nee

Sung by PS + MVD from Vaalibhame vaa vaa
Actors: Karthik + Radha directed by Bharati raja

Just check.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Movie called "Thangamadi thangam" acted by Ambika (In dual role) and SV Sekar. In that film, there were two solo numbers by PS and one duet by PS + MVD. I don't rememeber whether the music was by IR or Gangai amaran.

Kalai, Saravanan, or anyone else.. please try.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Subbu, the PS songs from Thangamadi thangam, Manjal nila and Valibame vaa vaa are already included in Kalai's exhaustive list. Just go to the 1st page of this thread-you'll find the list. (One small error which Kalai has made is he has referred to the film as Thangame thangam)

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
yes.. that movie name is "thangamadi thangam". Thank you for the correction.
I think more than three MD's (may be five) done music to "Kannil theriyum kadhaigal". I dont know which is by IR? I thought "naan oru" is G.K.Venkatesh. "Naan onna nenachen" is also another good song from that movie(SPB,VJ,Jikki?).

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Hey, there's a brilliant Bharatiyaar song by P. Susheela-IR combo in the film, 'Thai Pongal':
"Chuttum Vizhi Chudar thAn KaNNammA".
Amazing melody and interludes.. superb rendering by Susheela. This remains one of the best versions of this much-popular BharatiyAr song.

Does anybody have this number? It has an interesting mix of Behag, Shankarabharanam and Kalyani.. Difficult to frame it under a single raga.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Hi Peter Pan, it's a PS song in the film Malargale MalarungaL, music scored by Gangai Amaran.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Kalai,
1. MD for "Naanoru ponnoviyam" : IR
2. MD for "Naan onna ninachen" : SG
3. MD for song sung by TMS : KVM
4. MD for "Onnu rendu mooNu" : GKV (Sailaja & BSS)
5. One more song by PB Srinivas (I guess) was by TR Pappa.

Saravanan, can you confirm the above.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
hi Peter Pan
I have that song..send your mail Id.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Subbu, Kannil Theriyum Kathaigal (1980) was produced by singer AL Raghavan (who is now appearing in the Sun TV serial "Alaigal"), and his wife actress MN Rajam. The film starred Sarathbabu, Sripriya, Vadivukkarasi and MN Rajam.
AL Raghavan got 5 MDs to compose one song each, as you have rightly pointed out. ALR didn't approach MSV at all, though he has sung so many songs for MSV.

As you have pointed out, Naan unnai ninaichen(SPB,Jikki,VJ)was by SG. IR's Naan oru ponnoviam was by SPB,PS and SJ.I don't seem to remember the songs by KVM and TRP. However GKV's song, sung by AL Raghavan himself- Naan paartha Rathidevi engey, naan ketta pudhu paadal engey--remains evergreen in my memory- a haunting number, soulfully rendered by ALR, evoking nostalgic memories of of his Engirundhaalum Vaazhga.

Sadly KTK came a cropper and ALR burnt his fingers very badly. The irony is that he had already a similar bad experience in 1968, when TMS and ALR jointly produced the ill-fated Kallum Kaniyagum. Not only did they produce it, they also donned the roles of the 2 heros of the film!
Quite understandably, the film sank without a trace, MSV's lovely songs notwithstanding.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Guys,
This is news to me...
According to P. B. Srinivas, it was P.Susheela who recommended S. Janaki's name for her all-time great number 'ChingAra vElanE DEvA' (Konjum Salangai) as she felt only SJ could do justice to the NAgaswaram pitch. EvvaLavu pErukku irukku such great quality? Amazing!

Source: http://147.208.168.8/chat/2001_07/16_pbsrinivas2.htm

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
PP, read PBS' interview again- it was P Leela who suggested that SJ alone could match the pitch of the nadaswaram. According to Mr Vamanan (Thirai isai alaigal)too, it was P Leela who recommended SJ's name.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
"NalanthAna, NalanthAna, udalum ullamum nalanthAna" - PS sings this song with nadaswaram pitch. Vamanan also written high about that song.. Thanks to KVM..
PL's recommentation on SJ may be because of good heart . I had a doubt that “ may be to find an alternate to PS, PL could have promoted SJ, because she lost the market after PS's suceess in film music.. It got cleared recently because of the following incident..
Recently Jayachandran got an award by kerala govt., who is the greatest admirer of PS and consider her as "musical Goddess".
“The singer(PS) sparked off a small controversy in her own on offending way after the announcement of the first K. J. Jesudas award. She told this newspaper in an interview soon after that the award should have gone to the veteran P. Leela rather than to Jayachandran. She hurried to say that she did not want to hurt Jayachandran. ``He is a talented singer and like a younger brother to me. We have always had great love and regard for each other. Maybe, the second or third Jesudas award should've gone to him.''
Link : “http://www.hindu.com/2001/05/15/stories/0415404y.htm (http://www.hindu.com/2001/05/15/stories/0415404y.htm
)

If they are rivals she should not have told like this..Isn’t it.?


About PS & SJ the maximum number of female duets of SJ is with PS. In tamil itself it could have been more than 30.. (PS’s female duets may be more with LRE). I think they are good friends . I remember, in 80’s Gemini Cinema came with a “SJ special”.. In SJ’s album.. a photo with PS commented as “ anbu sahodari P.susheela-udan” ..
Once “vanna Thirai” cover page I have seen PS-SJ photo… moreover I have seen them together (thru. photos or TV) in different occations including Susheela-50 programme..
Old singers says in interviews that “ we were like a family” .I tend to believe that, just because the respect they keep on each others..

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Saravanan,
Thanks for pointing out.
Kalai,
I've sent you an email. Thanks.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Duets by PS+IR (Or PS + IR sung together in a song)

1. Lakshmi (Thenna marathula thendral adikkudhu). First duet of IR with a a female singer, I guess.
2. EnakkuL oruvan (Ther kondu sendravan... That Bharatanatyam Jathi was IR)
3. AlaigaL Oaivadhillai (Many times a beautiful piece of swaram will be repeated in that movie.. Though PS name was not shown in the title cards, it was PS+IR+Chorus. The same swaram was used in telugu version also).
4. Thaaikku oru Thaalaattu (song's masala... sung by MVD, IR & PS & Chorus.. in that song, PS sings a para "en mannadhi maan naan mannikka sonna.." for Padmini in the same tune of "Adi ennal]di raakkamma"..)

Apart from that,

From Coolie No1 (Telugu... something like "Nizamaa kalayaa"..a fundoo duet; But in tamil version it was by SPB+KSC).

Any other combination by PS+IR....

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Good obsevation subbu..
Are you sure about "alaigal Oyvathillai" piece.. very interesting..
One more song with IR is "mannavan vaazhum kudi pirantha then pAndi muthe muthe" from pongi varum kaveri.
Thaikku oru thaaltu starts with "alayile" ( oru kili uruguthu - mix also there in that song).

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Subbu, Kalai, one more PS+IR: 'Anne Anne konjam vaanga vaanga' from Krishnan Vandhaan (1987)

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Subbu, like Kalai, I too am asking you if you are sure about the 'Alaigal Oivathillai' piece. I seem to remember it by BSS or someone else. Anyway, I'm delighted if it was indeed PS!

Again, I seem to remember reading somewhere that IR's first duet was with SP Shailaja- 'Saamakkozhi ye koovuthamma'- Ponnu oorukku pudhusu. However since both Lakshmi and Ponnu oorukku pudhisu came in 1979, you may be right. Also Pagalil Oru Iravu too came in 1979, having a IR-Jency (of course, with a chorus)song- 'Thottam konda rasaave'.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Saravanan aNNachi... neenga engayO poittenga.. Kizhi.. indha madhiri yaar data instant-aa tharuvaanga..? Great..

"Krishnan vandhaan" was produced by Thengai srinivasan, illaya? Mohan & Rekha acted. In that film, all songs were sung by PS + Mano, I think. One pathos type was very good. Do you know that starting line Sara.Sir?

Kalai Thambi,
1. am 100% sure.. the swaram piece in AlaigaL oaivadhillai, was by PS & Chorus (IR ending with a lengthy humming...) it was a master piece... but our PS was used only for such a swaram... mmmmmm its ok..
2. Pongi varum kaveri.. yaar nadichadhu??? How many songs by PS in that?

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Sar.Sir...

1. Am 100% about AlaigaL Oaivadhillai... Last week also, the teleugu version was on TV.. IT IS BY P.Susheela.
2. Lakshmi film duet... I still remember myself and my brother attended the light music prog (1st in a grand scale) of IR for PiLLayar Chathurthi near Luz PiLLayar temple (Luz circle). I was a student that time. PS also sung with him, but she sung only 3 songs (KetteLe ange, KaNNan oru kuzhandhai, Thenna marathula thendral..). Before that duet, IR said "This is my first duet, that too with PS, whom I always respect"..

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Subbu, then of course you must be right.I am delighted that it is PS who was IR's first duet partner! One more feather in PS' cap!

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Sar, can u pl respond to my question on "Krishnan vandhaan"?

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Great info, subbu.
"Oru uravu azhaikkuthu, maru uravu thavikkuthu" is the duet mano and "Thaniyaaga Paaduthu" is a solo from "krishnan Vanthan".
One more song in PS+IR duet is "aadhi antham illadhavane" from "Paadatha ThEneekal"
"Pongi Varum Kaveri" actors are Ramarajan and Gowthami. This is the only song for PS and it is good pathos.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Subbu, I find Kalai has answered your query. The pathos song from Krishnan vandhaan is indeed 'Oru uravu azhaikkuthu'. You are right, the film was produced by Thengai Srinivasan, and had, besides Mohan and Rekha, Sivaji,KRV (perhaps Sivaji and KRV's last film together), Thangavelu, Thengai himself and Nambiar. It was a terrible film and flopped very badly. The songs too weren't too good.
Thengai suffered huge financial losses and died soon thereafter.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Is these songs are by PS? Subbu and saravanan, Can you clarify ?
1. “ Thannam thanimayil iru vizhi inainthau, siragugal naninthathu paniyile” – a chorous from “kAdhal Oviyam”, many places the voice resembles PS voice..
2. “Ye ayyasamy, nee aala Kami” from varusham-16 between pallavi and charanam, a piece of “themmangu”(chorous), which sounds like PS. The song was by SPB &KSC. But that particular piece resembles PS voice…

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Kalai, I remember both the bits from 'Velli salangaigal' and 'Ye Ayyasami", but I don't feel they are by PS. IR had so many female chorus singers in his troup like Poorani,Indira, Aruna etc. Agreed SJ too has done her bit of chorus singing in some songs-eg: Vaanam keezhey (Thoongathey thambi thoongathey) and the Vikram title song, but I don't think PS has done merely chorus, though she has sung only 2 lines in some songs-eg: Poovile medai(Pagal Nilavu).

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
OK.. saravanan!
A movie "Oru Iravu oru paravai", music by IR . Do you remember any songs? One song starts like "kannadi Ramaiah", is it by PS? pl. clarify.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Hello friends,

Though this is off the topic, I find many stalvarts of TFM fans here. So some one can answer me. Anyone has info on the song sung by IR and SJ

"Podayya oru kadidhasi, indha ponnoda nilamaye yosi".

If the link for the song is there somewhere?

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Kalai,

1. I never heard this song of PS+IR duet "aadhi antham illadhavane" from "Paadatha ThEneekal". Who acted in that film. Was MD also by IR?
2. Also I have never heard "mannavan vaazhum kudi pirantha then pAndi muthe muthe" from "Pongi Varum Kaveri". Is this a duet by IR+PS or solo by PS?
3. As Saravanan said, the two bits you are referring, are definitely not by PS. I also confirm.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
There is one number by PS+MVD under IR music direction from Mannuketha maindan (or something similar). Ramarajan acted in that film. The song replicates the words of Thanjai N Ramaiah Das. Like the old film songs wordings.. really good one.. What is the starting line?

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Hi Subbu
Sivakumar & Radhika are starring in "PAdatha thEneekla".I think the dialogues are by Kalaignar."Adi andam illathavane" is a stage drama song and it is a masala mix. You may remember this song " Vanna nilave, Vaigai nadhiye, solli vidava enthan kadaye" by KJY.
"mannavan vaazhum " is a duet, a pathos by PS+IR, IR sings like " unnai sontham kolla, mannavnaum inge, Ariro aro, arariro..ariro aro aarariro..
About that.. might mave recorded for some other situation and by some chance he could have used it for the other movies.. Anyhow, I am happy that,he hasnt used her for such bit songs..
Do you mean that "mannukketha ponnu" song ? "Poon kaathe antha ponnu kitta enna kondu pO, Thaniya ava illama nenjam vaaduthu" is by MVD & PS, I thought it was by IR, but from saravanan I have got the info that it is by GA.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Kalai, I am sorry I don't remember any song from Oru Iravu Oru paravai.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Yeah as Saravanan said "Poon kaathe antha ponnu kitta enna kondu" is by GA.

But am referring to one song from Ramarajan film like "Mannuketha maindhan" or so... it was MVD & PS, lots of old tamil words like Prabanjam etc were used. Very good song..

In that film, there is a song by KSC+Swarnalatha+Minmini.. it was also a good song.

I guess Gowthami was heroine (not very sure)

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Is it "mannukketha ponnu"? ... Song starts with "saatangathaara " !!!

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Is it "mannukketha ponnu"?. If so it starts with "sarangaThaara" !!!

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
There is a wonderful song in kavikkuil I believe. It goes

"Man oodum padayile, valli than odi pogayile
vandharam kandhan thandaram sondham, inbam ange
orayiram"

The tune is very similar to "machhanai partheengala" by SJ.

Is this song available with anyone?

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Yes Kalai. It is the same Mannuketta poNNu. The song with good old telugu-tamil words (similar to Thanjai N Ramaiah das) were used. Very good song, I believe.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
" sArangaThAra,SangEthaHAra, shyamalane mathana " is the staring line of the song. As you told, it is a good song, sounds like 60's songs."
Today I have listened both the songs "saarangathara" and "maanodum paathayile" in the morning .. what a coinidence !!
Send your mail Id sivaselvan. I will send "Maanodum" to U by this weekend.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
This is a real great thread to know more songs
of PS...
There is a song Thuli..Thuli..with Mano in the
movie Kannukoru Vanna Kili..
The interesting part is there are five songs
in this movie which are sung by Lata Mangeshkar,Aha and Susheela...Music by IR..

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Sorry..!! read Aha as Asha...

Ram

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
There is one more very melodious song with
Malasia Vasudevan from the movie Mudivalla Aarambam..

Song : Thendral Katrum..Thennankeetrum Kai
kulukkum Neramadi...
Really a very good and beatiful humming by PS..

Ram

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Another PS & Yesudas, IR combination...

Agayam.....from a vijayakanth, Rupini starrer..
Moonrezuthil en moochirukkum......
Very beatiful humming in the middle of the song...

Ram

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Some more songs...

Unnai Kana Thudithen... with Jayachandran movie: Natpu
Kelayo...Kannaa...Solo Movie: Nane Raja Nane Manthiri
Mayanginen solla thayanginen adada..with Jayachandran same movie as above..

Ram

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
PS solo
sugamo ayiram, uravo kaviyam

PS-KJJ

Kanni rasi en rasi (V Kumar music)
chella pillai saravanan

PS-SPB
edho oru nadhiyil nan iranguvadhai pole

PS-JC
udhadugalil unadhu peyer otti kondadhu, adhai uchcharikkum bodhu nenjam thithi kindradhu


PS-Sj

Isai arasi en naalum nane

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Ram,

Regrding the film "Kannukoru Vanna Kili.."

1. Are you sure that the MD is IR? Please confirm.
2. Also please list the songs and the respective singer
3. Who acted in that movie?

Regarding "Moonrezuthil en moochirukkum......": The MD is not IR.. it was by ILaya Gangai, who is from IR family.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Sivaselvam,

This thread is on "PS+IR Combination songs". Some songs listed by you are not under IR's music direction. Ex: edho oru nadhiyil nan iranguvadhai pole, Kanni rasi en rasi, udhadugalil unadhu peyer otti kondadhu etc...

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Subbu, you are right about 'Moondrezhithil en moochirukkum' -it was Illaya gangai, who is IR's nephew. (hence a combo of the names of IR and GA)

Reg. Kannukkoru vannakkili- it was definitely by IR. I think the film was never released, or even completed. It was produced by actor Raveendar. I remember that Latha M sang a song in it.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Subbu,
Here are the songs I remember from Kannukkoru Vannakkili. MD: IR.

1. Thuli Thuli ThuLiyAi: P.Susheela & Mano
- A vintage IR kind of composition with excellent orchestration & chorus. PS sounds as sweet as ever.
2. Unnai NAn PArkaiyil OomayAi pOgiRen: S.P.B & Asha Bhosle
- A breezy duet with shades of KalyANi
(there's also a Yesudas version of the above song)

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Thanks Peter.. Can you please post the link of PS+Mano song?

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Am not sure whether Kalai has added this song of IR+PS combo..

The film was acted by Prabhu + Kanaka. Kanaka and her friends sing this song sung by PS, Mini Joseph (Minmini was called like this earlier) and one more singer. The film was under Sivaji films banner.

Pl list out the film name and the song title.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Do you mean this song "sonna pechai ketka maatom " from "thaalatu Ketkuthamma" ? If so, it is included. In this IR's kids also sing with PS.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Subbu,
I think Kannukkoru VannakkiLi is availble on http://www.musicindiaonline.com (http://www.musicindiaonline.com
)

Go to 'Tamil' and search for IR and proceed to the 'K' page alphabetically..

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Kannukkoru vannakili
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/WW000A4H

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Kalai,

You mentioned the film name as "Kaali" for the song "aruviyile kuruvi". Is it not from the film Karadi (i am not sure whethere it was released). And the MD was Gangai amaran (am sure of it). Please check.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
The answer for Subbu's question is:

Name of the Movie: Puthiya Sangamam
Dir: Charuhasan

The song by PS : Pancha swarangale (in the song it is surangale..) Hintholam... adhil panchamam kalanthal sruthi bhetham...
Raga : Hintholam

The movie was never released

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Yes, Ram, I too don't think Pudhia Sangamam was ever released. Addl. information- it was produced by veteran actor MK Radha. Music by Ramakrishna Raja. One more song from it, often aired on Ilangai vaanoli-- 'Enakkum unakkum inimel enna kurai'- SPB-SJ. Stg-Prabhu & Suhasini.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Thanks Ram for your response. You must have read many pages of this thread and answered to my query. Nomba naLLaaga theriyaadha vidai therindhadhu..

But the film was released. I saw the film in Alankar theatre (Morning show) sometime in 1980's. yeah it was acted by Suhasini and Prabhu. A bit by Chandrasekar also. It was a flop movie.

The song sung by PS was really great and am searching for that link or audio cassette. Can you help to get it.

Saravaran.. was it not by Sivaji raja (MD) for Pudhiya sangamam?

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
No Subbu, it was Ramakrishna Raja.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
A dream....

whether there will be one more new song with this combo (IR + PS)...

Pagal kanavu palikkumaa? whether this news will reach the eyes or ears of IR and PS?

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Mannavan padum kual vilakke...PS and IR duet in some Ramarajan movie...i forgot the movie name..
Sripriya acts as ramarajan's sister in law and ramarajan and sripriya sings this luluby song...

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
sorry..read kual as kula....

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Ram, I guess it is from "Pongi varum kaveri". Gowthami acted as heroine, I guess.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Kalai,

In your IR+PS combio list, there is a song "Pasikku sorumille" (Thaai moogambigai).

Was that for KR Vijaya who sings on the steps of a Tank (Theppa KuLam) along with Saritha. This is like a viruththam / Thogayaraa. Pl confirm.

Can you get the full lyrics?

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
There is a song in the movie 'Natpu' of PS...
Music: IR
Song : 'Arali vechen..kollaiyele...'
a sad song...
another duet in the same movie of PS+Jayachandran :
'Unai kanna thudithen..indrudhane janmam eduthen..
very nice song...

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Another very beatiful song by PS in IR's music..
'Viral Meetamal irukinra Veenai..Pattai Theetamal irukindra Vairam...'
Movie : Pennai solli Kutramillai.
Y.vijaya and Sivakumar acted.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Have u guys ever mentioned the song 'Mella Mella ennai thotu..' from a sivaji, ambika starer movie,
Vazkai. Silk smitha sings in the movie.

Beatiful violin by V S Narasimhan.
It is duet by PS and rajkumar barathi..

PS's voice is very seductive and young in this song..

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Ram,

Few corrections
1. Pennai solli Kutramillai, was with Vijayakumar and Y Vijaya. Srikanth was the villian. And the MD was not IR. May be V Kumar or SG.
2. 'Mella Mella ennai thotu..' was sung by Raj seetharaman (alongwith PS).. yeah.. PS sang that song in a different Mayakkum voice, especially that "oh" in between words...

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Another seductive number that PS excelled in (and for a change IR didn't give it to SJ) was the 'Soora Samharam' song, 'Aadum Neram Idhu dAn idhu dAn Va Va Va Va'.
Cool composition and super cool rendering! (the 'rounded' beats were great.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
PP, was that "Aadum neram" song was a chorus song? PS' voice absent...?

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Subbu,

"Aadum neram" was indeed a chorus song, with PS singing only the pallavi (the actress too was Pallavi:-))

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Subbu, that was not Virutham. Virutham is sung mainly on Muruhan. That was a veNpa written by Ouvaiyar that starts as "Katrathu Kaiyalavu....."

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Hey... There was a song from "Magathil Mugam Paarkalam" (Vijayakumar and Sumithra)... sung by Ps with MVD..

1. Was the MD IR?
2. What is the starting line?

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Does anything have the link for "Kaatrinile varum geetham" title song? I need the PS version (it was sung for a ghost character), not SJ's or VJ's.

In one of te interviews, IR said, the heroine Kavith acted in 3 different roles and the same song was sung by 3 different singers.

Somehow I am not able to get PS version... can any1 help?

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Subbu-

That was a lovely song- 'Aasai nenjin kanavugal valarpirai,anbe oru murai--'

MD was indeed IR.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
I have seen a telugu movie "mayadhari krishnudu" which is a remake of "Anbukku naan adinai and music by IR. Other than Rajini, rathi and sujatha all are telugu actors and actresses. All songs were Ps and I have noticed only two songs.
1. Chintagaku selakatti -- SPB-PS ( kathodu poourasa, poova vandurasa in tamil)
2.Okkadakku okkada iddadam -- a solo sung by sujatha -- Ontrodu ontranom)
Our tel. friends can help to findout other songs.
Is there any forum to discuss about PS tel. songs?

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
List of songs sung by PS in telugu which were sung by other singers in Tamil. Most of the songs directed by IR !!!:

1. Rasave onna naan eNNi thaan (SP Sailaja from Thani kaatu raja)
2. KaNNan engay radhai angay (S Janaki from ILamai Kolam acted by Suman and Radhika in Tamil, Saritha in Telugu)
3. Idhayam..... pogudhey (Jency from Pudhiya varppugal)
4. Thamnana thamnana thaLam varum... along with SJ (Jency & B Vasantha from Pudhiya varppugal)
5. MalagaLil adum iLamai pudhumaye (SP Sailaja from KalyaNa raman)
6. Nanoru sindhu kavadi chindhu (Chitra from Sindhu Bhairavi)
7. Dharisanam kidaikaadhaa... along with SPB (IR+SJ from AlaigaL Oaivadhillai)... In telugu, it is full fledged song not as in Tamil

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Thanks subbu...
Any link about that Thanikkatu raja song? give me atleast the movie name in tel. or starting line of the song?

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
I have PS,SPB's Telugu duet "kavvinchE kaLLallo" (Tel. version of "maanjoLai kiLidhaano – kizhakkE pogum rayil") in mp3 format. If any of you need it, show me a place so that I can upload it.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Kalai, it stats with "sirimalle...", only that I remember. The rendering was much better than Sailaja.

Isaiosai: Please can you post the link here? I have been waiting for this song to listen !

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Subbu,
I've created the Yahoo group 'psusheela' and uploaded the file there. Join the group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Psusheela and you'll be able to download the mp3. If you wish, you can use this group to share files amongst PS fans.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Kalai,
You have missed out 'Dinam Dinam oru naadakam' film IduEppadiIrukku.
Ponthottam - sung by SPShailaja.
In Nadiyai thedi vantha, JJ plays the role of a young vivacious , creer woman while Fatafat, a typical , soft housewife. Probably to differentiate, IR could have opted for SPS for JJ and PS for fatafat.
Iam a great admirer of PS. But , being a singer myself and a keen observer,her voice was its best in late 60's and early seventies. Later on , if u observe, her voive started thickening and in Muthumani maala song , one cannot miss the strain in her voice when she tries to reach higher octaves in 'Kazhuthila potta thaali thaan' while SPB sings effortlessly.
In 'thiru theril varum silayo' song, her voice goes flat in the high pitch sentence 'Raagangalil Mohanam some thing .This is not to put down PS. But to emphasise the fact that her performance was not the best post 1980.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
Today I could seen the tel version of "Jaani"-a rajni-sridevi starrer movie in teja tv. Two wonderful songs are by PS in IR music and her voice made the song even more great compared to tamil.
1.Oru iniya manadhu isayai ( Oka kanni manasu kanala raja nadham,prema oka vedham)
2. En vaanile ore vennila (Ee velalo oke veduka, kanalu paaditha, kavitha lallitha, subhaVela )
Tamil version of both the songs were by jency.
"aasaya kaathula thoothu vittu" was not shown. I dont know who has sung. I hope, our tel. friends can get this songs for us.

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6th June 2005, 10:28 AM
I really wonder why IR did not assign the Tamil versions of these great songs :-)) anyway, PS was used at least in Telugu movies by IR.

By the way, who sung "Kaatril...." (SJ in Tamil)?

Am very eager to listen to the telugu versions.

Kalai, I guess it was "orun iniya" was not by Jency. Pls check.